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A60228 The minister of state vvherein is shewn, the true use of modern policy / by Monsievr de Silhon ... ; Englished by H. H. ...; Minister d'estat. English Silhon, sieur de (Jean), 1596?-1667.; Herbert, Henry, Sir, 1595-1673. 1658 (1658) Wing S3781; ESTC R5664 174,658 197

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a Quarrell and laboured with great Obstinacy the Ruine of one Another In that hard Accesse and cruell Conjuncture wherein she could not gaine without losse she proposed to herselfe to follow alwayes the fortune of the weakest to make the Counterpoise to the strongest and to dispose them to Reconciliation when both despaired of the victory which succeeded unto her Alliances are also good to preserve union and nourish th' Intelligence of Houses which otherwise are obliged to be of good understanding and which a Common interest doth conjoyne and bind Insomuch that if they make not the knot they tye it faster If they forme not the friendship they heat it if they do not introduce the concord they confirme it T is for that reason they are so frequent amongst the Princes of th' House of Austria and were heretofore betwixt them of France and Navarre and betwixt them of Castille and Portugall before th' union of those Crowns But what must be understood of most certain from Alliances and to which Princes who make them and their Counsellors ought chiefly to have an eye is to draw some present utility or some future good whilst the Wills of them who are conjoyned in Alliance are in heat and th' emotion which that Bond brings doth last Francis the first married Elnor Sister of Charls the sisth to recover his Liberty as I have said Phillip the second gave his youngest Daughter to the last Duke of Savoy to make him seise upon the Marquisat of Saluce and to cause the Gates of Italy to be shut against us and to deliver Milan from the jealousie which that neighbourhood gave it Ferdinand of Castille Marryed Germania Neece of Lewis the twelfth to break the Leagues which were framed betwixt Lewis the Emperour Maximilian and th' Arch Duke Phillip to his prejudice and to dissipate th' Intelligences of those Princes that were not favourable unto him In consideration whereof I say that the Alliance which the King had made with the King of England ought to be placed amongst his wisest Elections in the felicities of his Reign And that they who advised him to it could not give a sounder Counsel and that it hath been a great honour to Sr. the Candinall to have mingled his Cares with those of his Master and his disturbances with his Master 's for th' accomplishment of that worke 'T is not a small advantage to render ones enemies weake and to make a power retire that is contrary to us or suspected is a great advance But t is the perfection of wisedom to draw to ones selfe a good that was intended for them that love us not to gain that which we make them lose If we had not made haste Spain who suffered that Alliance t' escape their hands and which sometimes loseth her Advantages in seeking of them too cunningly and too great Had it may be renewed it And if that had been is it not probable that it had invention enough and Artifice for to keep us alwayes in Check by the means of England That it had manadged at pleasure the Protestants of France with their hands and had assured all his designes in making the Counterpoyse to ours with that party which was also entire That the losses which they lately received had affrighted them more then beaten them and that the sight of their wounds yet bloudy and the desire of revenge rendred them irreconcilable t is at least certaine that it diverted the Ruine and was opposed to its dammage That if England hath turned her Arms upon us if it hath since quarrell'd us and if the capricious humours of a particular person hath been the Torch of a publique dissention It was a stroak which was not in the power of humain discourse to foresee and the reason of State did not permit that a Prince should give so pernicious an example to his subjects as openly to favour Felony in the states of another Prince yet it may be said in truth that the peace which ensued that War and which was so advantagious to us is in part an effect of th' Alliance whereof we speak and the worke of that Princesse which shall be hereafter th' Indissoluble band of the friendship of the two Brothers and th' Immortall subject of the Concord of both Nations Adde to this th' Interest of Religion which is very considerable in this Alliance of the great good it produceth to have accustomed th' English to permit th' exercise of it in the Queen's family T is no small matter that they are made acquainted with our Holy Mysteries and that they are no longer offended at that which they have had a long time in detestation T is to be believed that this holy humanity which now is in safety amongst them shall not be there without a tast of its Graces and that th' Example of good souls to whom'tis permitted to provide for their safety without crime may touch them and bring them to the knowledge of that truth their fathers had forsaken The Fifth Discourse Of the Greatness and Importance of the Siege of Rochelle I Will not play th'Oratour upon the taking of Rochelle nor amuse my selfe with the Flowers of Rhetorique and th' Ornaments of that Science which hath not significant expressions how rich soever for the subject which I treat I will not exalt the glory of that siege by the Reputation of a City whose name hath passed to th' Indies with reputation by the course and Merchandize it made upon all Seas Th' Heresie and Rebellion to which it served for sanctuary in France The friendship of Protestants and hatred of Catholiques which it equally exercised had rendred it famous in th' Earth I speake not now of the place nor of th' advantages of its scituation where it seemed Nature had placed all she had of strength and Art had laid out all she had of Invention I passe by the comparison of the sieges of Tire and Antwerp which others have spoken of and which are inferiour to ours Though one of them was the principall worke of the Prince of Parma and the admiration of the past Age and the other th' great effect of the power of Alexander and th' Industry of Greece I take another way and will indeavour to declare the value of the Conquests which we have made in other Ages Heretofore nothing was more easie to a Conquerour then to subdue a Province and the gaine of a battell delivered up a whole Countrey to the victorious wherein there was scarce any strong place Now that th' Art of making Warre hath changed face and conduct That 't is in all Countryes almost reduced to cast up Earth and to retrench That few Battells are fought that the life of Men are better Husbanded and that an Army cannot March very farre but a Fortresse is in its way 'T is no marvell if there be as much difficulty and by consequence as much glory to take a Fortress of Reputation as there was heretofore to
towards Rome in spight of his Generall I speak not of the raising of 14000 furious Lutherans and burning with the first Zeale of that Heresie t' employ them in a Warre where th' Holy Chaire had so great a part But after that Rome was taken that dreadful accident was hapned by the course wherewith it was guided After that th' Holy Citty had served for spectacle to the World of the justice and of th' Impiety of Men After that the Pope was besieged in the Castle of St. Angelo Why did not th' Emperour cause the scandall to cease at the first news he heard of it Why did he not deliver Rome of that heretique Garrison which abused th' holy things who prophaned the most sacred Mysteries of our Religion and added to all the kinds of cruelty all the kinds of sacriledge Why did he suffer the Pope to be put to Ransom to redeeme himselfe with Money from the vexation of victorious Heretiques and that Ostia and th' other strong place of th' Ecclesiastique State were the Price of his liberty and th' Arguments of his servitude I know well that some answer may be made in his favour and for his discharge That 't is permitted to make use of th' Advantage which we have not sought but fortune hath offer'd That 't is lawfull to draw good from th'evill which happens against our intentions That 't is the destiny of the things of this World That the prosperity of some is raised by th' Adversity of others and that th' affairs of State are like those of Merchandize wherein the greatest secret is to know when to make right use of the time and t' employ th' occasions to profit when they are offered To that I answer first that the evills which I have spoken of and those dreadfull Accidents were the sequells of the breach of many treaties made with Clement and of the violation of publique faith in his person And therefore that the effects could not become Lawfull whose causes were so notoriously unjust That the River cannot be very sound if the Spring be poysoned That conclusions retain alwaies the conditions of the principles f●om which they arise and partake of their spots and weaknesses and that they who have been the promoters of some Evill or have not diverted it when they were obliged are bound to repaire it and ought to be security for th' ill consequences they bring with them In the second place I answer that the person of the Pope and the dominions of th' Holy Chaire are priviledged-things and of right are not subject t' all th'Inconveniences and t' all the disgraces to which the Person and States of other Princes are exposed for the Reasons above given and which shall not here be repeated As to th' affliction th' Emperour seemed to declare at the News of th'Accident and the Demonstrations he published of an eminent grief As to the mourning he put on to make his Displeasure visible and to the Processions he made upon that occasion And the Rejoycings for the birth of his Son He caused to cease To weep th' ill fortune of the Pope All that was but illusion and Comedy So that false sadnesse suddenly disappeared and that vain shew of griefe was presently belyed by the proceedings above mentioned And moreover Francis the first reproached him in one of his Manifests that he had dared to think to send Clement into Spain and conceived that monstrous vanity To have at the same time in his hands the two principall persons of the World and two so great prisoners as a Pope and King of France The Spaniards answerd that if Charles had had the will who could have hindred him to have executed it And who are strong enough to oppose his designes in a time when Fortune refused nothing to his desires when his prosperities gave feare t' England and Italy was amazed at the blow which it had newly received When France was mortified for th'Imprisonment of its King and th'heretiques of Germany made brags of the purging of Rome from its abominations and abating the Pope dome under th' Authority of a Catholique Emperour To that Answer may be made with Francis the first That Charles was diverted from that designe by th' Horror the proposition raised to all Spaine That the people murmured and the Clergy raged when there was speech of leading the Vicar of Jesus Christ in Triumph and to make a Prisoner of th' head of the Church Though it be very hard to justifie the truth of this fact to make visible a matter so darke 't is better to leave it in darknesse and to suspend herein ones beliefe for the honour of a Prince that hath much merited of the Church in divers occasions and to whom the glory of beating back Soliman cannot be denyed and th'assuring of all Christendome in the defence of his patrimny and the States of his brother At least 't is certain that if he was a sinner he was a Penitent and that he washed his faults with the teares of three years which he poured out in his retraite from the world before death tooke him away from it Others aggravated this fault by th'Evills which Fortune raised t' interrupt his prosperities and by the diverse faces which she shewed to them of his Race They mentioned the disgraces of his Brother The Route of his Armies at Ezechio and at Bude and th' other Victories which Valour did not so much give to the Turk as th' ill Fortune of Ferdinand and the Cowardise of his Captains They did not conceale th' occasions wherein he saw his designes overthrown and his person in danger The sinking of his Fleet in th'haven of Algiers and that fearfull losse which hath not been equalled by any losse made by Christians on the Sea but by that which his Son made in the Sleev of England They represent the successe which the second League had against him in Germany The Chase which Maurice Duke of Saxony gave him And the necessity whereunto he was reduced to save himselfe by night and the sixth person at Isburg and to consent to the peace of Passo so injurious to Religion and so unworthy of th' Empire And to conclude they adde th' ill successe of the Enterprize of Provance and the shame of the siege of Mets which was the last deceit fortune put upon th' Emperour and th' accomplishment of the designe he meditated to put himselfe out of her power in quitting the World where she is so soveraign I will not affirme that all these Evills befell him in revenge of the sacking of Rome and th' affront offered to th' Holy Chaire It might happen that God sent or permitted them for that subject And it might fall out also that they sprang from other reasons and were th' effect of another cause Insomuch that according to the judgements that are made upon that Matter and th'Examples which are alleadged of them whom God hath punished for offending of Popes There 's