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A77190	Mr Bagshaw's speech in Parliament February the ninth, 1640. Concerning episcopacy and the London petition.	Bagshaw, Edward, d. 1662.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons.	1641 (1641)	Wing B399; Thomason E196_31; ESTC R9564	2,248	9

Mr BAGSHAW'S SPEECH IN PARLIAMENT February the ninth 1640. Concerning EPISCOPACY And the LONDON PETITION LONDON Printed for Francis Constable 1641. Mr BAGSHAW'S SPEECH In Parliament Febr. 9th 1640. Concerning EPISCOPACY And the LONDON PETITION Mr. Speaker I Was yesterday and the time before for the retaining of the London Petition and am in the same minde still and therefore doe now rise up against the proposall of that question which is now called for Whether Episcopacy it selfe bee to bee taken into consideration by the Committee wherein I doe distinguish of a twofold Episcopacy the first in Statu puro as it was in the Primitive times the second in Statu corrupto as it is at this day and is so intended and meant in the London Petition Now I hold that Episcopacy in this later sense is to be taken into consideration as a thing that trencheth not only upon the right and liberties of the subject of which I shall have occasion to speak hereafter But as it is now it trencheth upon the Crowne of England in these soure particulars wherein I know this House will willingly heare me First it is maintained by the Bishop of Exeter in a book which he hath writ to this purpose that Episcopacy it selfe both in the office and in the jurisdiction is do Iure Divino of divine right which position is directly contrary to the lawes of England of which I will cite but two or three in stead of many more The Statute of Carlisle 35 Ed. 1. mentioned in Caudries case in the fifth Report saith that the Church of England is founded in the state of Prelacy by the Kings of England and their Progenitors Which likewise appeares by the first Chapter in Magna Charta in these words Concessimus Deo Ecclesiae Anglicanae omnes libertates c. and in the twenty fifth yeare of Edward the third in the French Roll which I have seene there the Archbishop and Clergy petition the King for their liberties in these words thus englished That for the Reverence of God and holy Church and of his grace and bounty he will confirme all those liberties priviledges and rights granted and given by him and his noble Progenitors to the Church by their Charters which plainly sheweth that they have their Episcopall Jurisdiction from the Kings of England and not Iure divino by divine right and this likewise is acknowledged by themselves in the Statute of 37 H. 8. cap. 17. that they have their Episcopall Jurisdiction and all other Ecclesiasticall Jurisdiction whatsoever solely and only by from and under the King The second thing that is trenching upon the Crowne is this that it is holden at this day that Episcopacy is inseparable to the Crowne of England and therefore it is commonly now said no Bishop no King no Miter no Scepter which I utterly deny for it is plaine and apparant that the Kings of England were long before Bishops and have a subsistence without them and have done and may still depose them The third is likewise considerable as trenching upon the Crowne which is that was said under the Gallery that Episcopacy was a third estate in Parliament and therefore the King and Parliament could not bee without them this I utterly deny for there are three estates without them as namely the King who is the first estate the Lords Temporall the second and the Commons the third and I know no fourth estate Besides the Kings of England have had many Parliaments wherein there have beene no Bishops at all as for example Ed. 1.24 of his Reigne held his Parliament at Edmundbury excluso Clero and in the Parliament 7. R. 2. cap. 3. and 7. R. 2. cap. 12. it doth appeare that they were enacted by the King with the assent and agreement of the Lords Temporall and Commons where the estates of Parliament are mentioned and not the Clergy Divers other Statutes might likewise be named to this purpose which I omit The fourth and last thing is of the Bishops holding of the Ecclesiasticall Courts in their owne names and not in the name of the King nor by Commission from him contrary to the Statute of 1 Ed. 6. cap. 2. and contrary to the practice of Bishop Ridley Coverdale and Ponnet who took Commissions from the King for holding their Ecclesiasticall Courts as may be seene at this day in the Rols And although it will be objected that by a late Proclamation in 1637. wherein the opinion of the Judges is mentioned it is declared upon their opinion that the Act of the 1 Ed. 6. was repealed and that Bishops may now keep Courts in their owne names and send processe under their owne seales yet it is well known that the Statute of 1 Q. Mary which repealed the Statute of 1 Ed. 6. was it selfe repealed by the Statute of 1 Iac. cap. 25. whereupon it was holden upon a full debate of this point in Parliament 7 Iac. which I have seene that upon consideration of the Statutes of 1 Iac. and 1 Eliz. cap. 1. and 8 Eliz. cap. 1. that the Statute of 1 E. 6. was revived and that Bishops ought not to keep Courts in their owne names So that for these Reasons so neerly concerning the right of the Crowne of England in the point of Episcopacy I am against the proposall of that question and am for the retaining of the London Petition and for a thorough reformation of all abuses and grievances of Episcopacy mentioned in the Ministers Remonstrance which Reformation may perhaps serve the turne without alteration of the Government of England into a forme of Presbytery as it is in other Kingdomes of Scotland France Geneva and the Low Countreys which for mine owne part had I lived in these Kingdomes I should have beene of the opinion of the Protestant party in point of Presbytery because those Kingdomes are governed by the Civill Law which maintaines the Jurisdiction of the Pope and Papall Episcopacy which the ancient Lawes of England condemne being likewise in themselves opposite to the Civill and Canon Lawes And if not withstanding all the Reformation that can be made by the Lawes of this Land a better forme of government may evidently appeare to us concerning which there is no forme now before us it is to be taken by us into consideration according to that imperiall Constitution in these words In rebus nobis constituendis evidens utilitas esse debet ut ab eo jure recedatur quod diu equum visum est And so Mr. Speaker I shortly conclude that for these Reasons omitting divers more the London Petition is to bee retained FINIS