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A44754 Some sober inspections made into carriage and consults of the late Long-Parliament whereby occasion is taken to speak of parliaments in former times, and of Magna Charta, with some reflexes upon government in general.; Som sober inspections made into the cariage and consults of the late Long Parlement Howell, James, 1594?-1666. 1656 (1656) Wing H3117; ESTC R2660 73,993 193

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returned without the prisoner This being related to the House of Commons they would sit no longer without their Member and desiring a conference with the Lords Sir Thomas A●dly then Chancellour and the rest judged the contempt to be very great and referred 〈◊〉 punishment thereof to the House of Commons it selfe Concerning liberty or freedome of speech which is held another privilege of Parliament There is a speech of Sir Thom●● Moors upon record who being chosen Speaker 14. Henry the eight He first disabled himself and then petitioned the King in the behalf of the House that if i● communication and reasoning any ma●● should speak more largely then of duty be ought to do all such offences should be pardoned which was granted and entre● upon record In which petition it is observable that liberty or freedom of speech is not a power for men to speak wha● they will or please in Parliament It is ● priviledge onely not to be punished but pardoned for the offence of speaking more largely then in duty they ought to do which in a right construction must be understood of rash unadvised ignorant or negligent escapes and slips in speech not for willfull malicious much lesse for treasonable speeches And then the Kings pardon was desired to be upon record that it might be pleaded at Bar to all actions There is a speech upon record in Queen Elizabeths time wherein the Commons were warn'd not to meddle with the Queens Person the State or Church-Government Polyander I have heard of divers traverses that hapned in the reign of that popular and long lived Queen which trenched as much if not more upon the priviledges of Parliament and the liberties of the people then any that happen'd in the reign of the two last Kings Philanglus It is very true and I will give you some instances drawn from good authentick records 23. Elizabeth Mr. Paul Wentworth moved in the House for a publick fast and for a Sermon every morning at seven a clock before the House sate the House hereupon was divided 100 were against it and 150 for it and so an order passed accordingly The Queen being told hereof sent a message to the House by her Vice-chamberlain That her Highnesse had great admir●●tion of the rashnesse of the House in commit●ing such an apparent contempt of her expresse command as to put in execution such an innovation without her privity or pleasure fist known Thereupon Mr. Vice-chamberlain moved the House to make an humble submission to her Majes●y acknowledging the said offence and contempt and to crave remission for the same with●●full purpose to forbear the committing of the like hereafter So by the suffrage of the whole House Mr. Vice-chamberlain carryed their submission to the Queen accordingly 35 Elizabeth Mr. Peter Wentworth and Sir Henry Bromley delivered a Petition to the Lord Keeper desiring the Lords of the Upper House to be suppliants with them of the Lower House unto her Majesty for entayling the succession of the Crown whereof a Bill was ready drawn The Queen was highly displeased herewith and charged her Councel to call the parties before them so Sir Thomas Henage was sent to fetch them so they were first commanded to forbear going to the House and not to go out of their several lodgings afterward they were called before the Lord Tresurer Lord Buckhurst and Sir Thomas Henage Wentworth was committed to the Tower and Bromeley to the Fleet together with Mr. Stevens as also Mr. Welch Knight for Worcestershire The Queen sent a notable check to the House of Commons 28. of her raign for chosing and returning Knights of the Shire for Norfolk a thing impertinent for the House to deal withall and belonging only to the Office and charge of her Chancellor from whom the Writs issue and are return'd In one Parliament when Mr. Coke afterwards Sir Edward Coke was Speaker the Queen sent a Messenger or Sargeant at Arms into the House of Commons and took out Mr. Morris and committed him to Prison with divers others for some speeches spoken in the House Thereupon Mr. Wroth moved the House that they would be humble sutors to her Majesty that she would be pleased to enlarge those members of the House that were restrain'd which was done accordingly and answer was sent by her Privy Councel That her Majesty had committed them for causes best known to her self and to presse her Highuesse with this suit would but hinder the whole good they sought That the House must not call the Queen to an account for what shee doth of her Royal Authority That the causes for which they are restrain'd may be high and dangerous That her Majesty liketh no such questions neither doth it become the House to search into matters of that nature The Commons were told 39. Elizabeth that their priviledge was yea and no And that her Majesties pleasure was that if the Speaker perceived any idle heads which would not stick to hazard their own estates but meddle with reforming the Church and trans forming the Common-weal by exhibiting Bills to that purpose the Speaker should not receive them till they were viewed and considered by those who are sitter to consider of such things and can better judge of them Moreover the Queen rejected 48. Bills which had passed both Houses in that Parliament The House of Commons by their Speaker 39. Elizabeth complained of some Monopolies whereupon the Lord Keeper made answer in her Majesties name That her Highnesse hoped her dutiful and loving Subjects would not take away her Prerogative which is the chiefest flower in her Garland the principall and h●ad Pearl in her Crown and Diadem but that they will rather leave that to her own disposition Sergeant Heal said 43. Elizabeth publiquely in Parliament that he marvelled the House stood either at the granting of a subsidy or time of payment considering that all we have is her Majesties and she may lawfully at her pleasure take it from us in regard she had as much right to all our lands and goods as to any revenew of the Crown and he said he could prove it by precedents in the raign of Henry the third King John and King Steven This speech agrees with that which Sir Edward Coke hath in his Institutes where he saith positively That the first Kings of this Realm had all the Lands of England in Demesne and the great Mannors and Royalties they reserved to themselves and enfeoffed the Barons of the remnant for the common defence of the Kingdom There was a remarkable passage happen'd in the raign of Henry the fourth The House of Commons Petitioned the King that they might have advice and communication with certain Lords about matte●● of businesse in Parliament for the commo● good of the Kingdom which prayer as the record hath it Our Lord the King graciously granted but with this protestation That he did it not of duty nor of custom but of his special grace So our Lord the King
was the greater Fool to grant it or they the greater knaves to ask it But the saying of the late Earl of Dorset is remarkable who saluted the King the next morning with the stile of fellow Subject in regard that by that grant he had transferred both Crown Sword and Scepter to the Parliament for now we may say that England hath four hundred and odd Kings in her But t is observed that Princes of a hard destiny do follow the worst Councils But Sir in lieu of these monstrous Acts of Grace and trust what did the Parliament all this while for the King Philanglus They promised specially upon the passing of the last Act that they would make him the most glorious the best beloved and richest King that ever reigned in England which promise they voted and confirmed with the deepest protests and asseverations that could be Adde hereunto that the Earl of Strafford was passed over unto them who after a long costly tryal was condemned to the Scaffold and so made a Sacrifice to the Scot and them who stayed chiefly for his head Polyander Touching the Earl of Strafford 't is true he was full of ability courage and Elocution yet I heard his wisdom questioned beyond Sea in divers things First that having a charge ready against his chiefest Accusers yet he suffered them to take the start of him and have priority of suit which if he had got he had thereby made them parties and so incapable to proceed against him Secondly that during the time of his tryal he applyed not himselfe with that compliance to his Jury as well as to his Judges for he was observed to comply only with the Lords and slight the House of Commons Lastly that knowing he had both Parliament and Scot his enemies as also the Irish he would not go aside a while and get beyond Sea which he might have easily done from York in lieu of coming up to London Philanglus I beleeve his death was resolved upon before his comming from York if not by ordinary way of justice yet by way of publique expedience which appears in regard the proceedings against him was by a clause in the Act not to be produced for a leading case for example to future ages and other inferior Courts Good Lord how the rabble of the City thirsted after his death who were connived at and countenanced by the Parliament it selfe to strut up and down both before White Hall and Westminster Hall where they cryed out that if the Common Law failed Club Law should knock him down nay their insolency was permitted to swell so high that they demanded the names of those Lords who would not doom Strafford to death Polyander Is it possible that the grave and solemne high Court of Parliament should permit such popular insolencies to be committed before their faces Philanglus Yes and notwithstanding that the Lords did often solicit the House of Commons to take a course for suppressing them yet 't was not hearkened unto nay when the King had commanded a double guard of Constables and Watch-men which is the usual way by law to attend at Westminster Hall for suppression of such disorders the Commons cryed out that it was a breach of the privileges of the House and a trenching upon their liberties so they took afterwards a band of Souldiers to guard them of their own election which was never known before Polyander Me thinks that the Earl of Strafford being gone fair weather should have followed he was the cause of the tempest being thus thrown over board Philanglus 'T is true the Scots were dismissed a little after having Fidlers fare Meat Drink and Money for eleven Months together in England with Straffords head to boot So the King prepared to go for Scotland according to Articles to hold a Parliament there This fill'd the house of Commons with odd kind of jealousie therefore they cast about how to prevent the journey so they did beat their brains night and day about it so far that they sate upon Sunday in debate but with another proviso that it should not be made a Precident for future ages as the other Caveat was for their proceedings against the Earl of Strafford Well the King went to his Scots Parliament where he fill'd every blank for they did but ask and have He granted them what possibly they could propone in point of governing both for Kirk and State many received new honors they made havock and divided all the Bishops Lands amongst them for all which unparallel'd Concessions and Acts of grace as an argument of gratitude they caused an Act though already in force to be publish'd and reviv'd That it should be detestable and damnable treason in the highest degree that could be for any of the Scots Nation conjunctly or singly to levy Arms or any Military forces upon any pretext whatsoever without the Kings royal Commission but how the Scot observed this solemn Act afterwards the World knows too well During the Kings being in Scotland that formidable hideous Rebellion in Ireland broke out which the Irish impute to the English Parl. First in regard that one of their accusations against Strafford was that he used the Papists in that Kingdom too favourably Secondly for the rigorous proceedings intended by the said Parliament against the English Catholicks Thirdly for design the English Parliament had to bring the ●utch and the Scot to plant in Ireland the last of whom the Irish do hate in perfection above all other Nation and Lastly the stopping of that Irish Regiment of cashiered Souldiers which the King promised by Royal Word and Letter to the King of Spain who relying upon that imploiment which was denied them by order from the English Parliament rather then to begg steal or starve they turned Rebels Polyander Indeed I heard that Act of staying the Irish forces much censur'd abroad to the dishonour of the King of England and reproach of the Parliament considering ho● the Marquis de Velada and Malvezzi and Don Alonzo de Cardenas who were all three Ambassadours here for the King of Spain at that time having by dependance upon the sacred word and Letter of a King imprested money and provided shipping for their transport which came to a great charge but I pray be pleased to proceed Philanglus The King having setled Scotland was his return to London received with much joy but though he was brought with a kind of Hosanna into one end of the Town he found a Crucifige at the other for at Westminster there was a Remonstrance fram'd a work of many weeks and voted in the dead of night when most of the moderate and well-minded members were retir'd to their rest in which remonstrance with as much industry and artifice as could be all the old moats in government were expos'd to publick view from the first day of the Kings inauguration to that very hour Polyander How could this agree with the Protestation the House did make formerly
up much less their own native King yet they made a sacrifice of him afterwards for a summe of money Whereupon Bellieure the French Embassador being convoyed by a troop of Scots horse to such a stand in lieu of larges to the said Troopers he drew out half a Crown piece and asked them how many pence that was they answered thirty pence he replied for so much did Judas betray his Master and so hurld them the half Crown Polyander But afterwards the Scots carried themselves bravely by sending a gay Army under D. Hamilton to assist the King Polyander Touching that Presbyterian Army the bottom of its design is not known to this day and I was told that when the King heard of it and that Himilton was in the head of it he should say Then I expect but little good to be done for me Polyander Certainly the routing of that Army was a glorious exploit of the Lord Protector that now is his forces not amounting to the third part of the Scots Philanglus It was certainly a very heroik Achivement as also was the battail of Dunbar where the Scots had greater advantages far of him which two exploits deserve to be engraven in large Letters of Gold in the Temple of immortality and transmitted to after ages For hereby he did more then Roman Emperours or after them the Saxon Danish Norman and English Kings could ever do to conquer that craggy Country and make England Scot-free ever hereafter But before I have done with this unlucky Nation I will give you a touch of those visible Judgments which have fallen upon them so thick one upon the neck of another in few years more then fell upon the Jews in forty First there happened the greatest plague in Edenburgh that ever was in that Country for in less then a twelve-month the Town was peopled with new faces the Pestilence having swept away almost all the old There have been above 2000 Witches arraigned and executed there within these few years After the routing of D. Hamilton and the battail of Dunbar with that at Worcest●r many thousands of that Nation have been bought and sold in quality of slaves to be banished and sent over to forraign Plantations what numbers of them were starved and buried before they were dead And what is now become of their hundred and ten Kings and their Crown which I heard them brag was more weighty as having more Gold in it then the English and for their Government they are reduced to be as pure a subordinate providence and subject to the will of the Conqueror as ever Country was Polyander I must tell you also that they have lost much of their repute abroad but if I were worthy to be heard by the Lord Protector I would make a motion that his Highnesse would take in at least all the Land 'twixt Barwick and Edenburgh into the English Pale and impose a new name upon it for an Eternal mark of Conquest and for enlargeing the Skirts of England But Sir it is time for you now under favour to return to London and know what the Paraliment doth Philanglus There are all Artifices used to make the King odious and both the Press and the Pulpit joyn in the work new distinctions are coyned that though he was Gods ●nynted yet he was mans appointed That he had the Commanding but not the Disposing power That he was set to Rule but not to over●rule us That he was King by humane choice not by Divine Charter That he was not King by the Grace of God but by the suffrage of the people That hee had no implicit trust or peculiar property in any thing that populus ●st potior Rege that Grex Lege Lex Rege potentior That the King is singulis major but universis minor Lastly that he was but a Creature and production of the Parliament● c. Moreover all Artifices are used to raise money The first way that the Parliament used after a Royal Subsidy of 400000 l. was to poll us then they went on to clip and shave us and had they continued longer they had fallen a fl●ying of us They lighted on no lesse then twenty severall ways to get money above board whatsoever they got below Polemoney and the Royal Subsidy were the first two 3. Free Loans and Contributions upon the publick Faith which swelled to an incredible sum 4. The Irish Adventures for sale of Lands the first and second time 5. The general Collection for relief of the distressed Protestants in Ireland to which use the Hollanders sent over in mony and Corn neer upon 50000 l. and the E●glish Collections came to neer four times so much so that in all both Collections amounted to above 200000 l. sterling and yet not ten thousand pound not the twentieth part was employed to the right use 5. They grew so hungry for money that they impos'd the weekly meal 6. The City Loan after the rate of five Subsidies 7. A particular Assessement for bringing in our dear Brethren the Scots 8. The five and twentieth part 9. The weekly Assessment for the Lord Generals Army 10. The weekly Assessement for Sir Tho. Fairfax Army 11. The weekly Assessement for the Scots Army 12. The weekly Assessement for the British Army in Ireland 13. The weekly Assessement for the Lord of Manchesters Army 14. The Kings Queens and Princes Revenues 15. Sequestrations and plunder by Committee 16. Compositions with Delinquents and fines which came to sums passed all understanding 17. That ●utch Devil the Excise 18. Fortification money 19. Bishops Deans and Chapters Lands To this may be added the Ship Sancta Clara valued in money and Merchandize at 800●0 l. sterling which was detain'd at Southampton for reparation of those damages that some English Merchants had received by the Spaniard as it was declared in the House but not a farthing thereof was imployed to that use notwithstanding that many with expence of time and coin did solicit for the same and lastly the Houshold stuff of the King Queen Prince and others whereof some small proportion was allotted for payment of the Arrears of the Kings poor Servants but they were to advance two in the pound be fore-hand before they could be admitted to any Divident and t is incredible what jugling there was used in that business for some receaved nothing thereby but loss upon loss Nay they took away moneys given to repair Churches and in some places robb'd the very Lazaretto Polyander Sure these vast sums must amount to a huge mass of money money enough to have pourchas'd half a dozen Kingdoms instead of purging one Touching that Du●ch Devill you speak of the Excise I remember Sir Dudley Carleton when he was Secretary of State did but name it in one Parliament and it was such a Bugbear abominable word that he was called to the Barr and hardly escap'd going to the Tower though he made use of it to no ill sense But was there no account
Knights was framed first the B●rons onely made the Parliament or Commo● Council of the Kingdom Polyander By so many strong evidences and prenant proofs which you produce I find it to be a ●●ridian truth that the Commoners were no part of the High Court of Parliament in ages passed Moreover I find in an ancient Manuscript that the Commons were reduced to a House by the advice of the Bishops to the King in the brunt of the Barons Wars that they might allay and lesson the power of the Peers who bandied so many yeers against the Crown yet to prevent that they should not arrogate too much authority to themselves as Asperius nihil est humili cum surgit in altum it was done with those cautions th●● they had scarce as much jurisdiction given them as a Pyepowders Court hath for they should neither exhibit an oath nor impose fine or inflict punishment upon any but their own members or be a Court of Record or grant Proxies therefore it may well be a quere how they can appoint Committees considering that those Committee-men whom they choose are no other then their Deputies and act by power and proxy from them But it is as cleer as the Sun that the Conquerour first brought this word Parliament with him being a French Word and made it free Denizon of England being not known before for therein the Normans did imitate the Romans whose practise was that wheresoever they conquered they brought in their language with the Lance as a mark of conquest I say that besides those instances you produce I could furnish you with many in the Saxons times who govern'd by the councel of the Prelates and Peers not admitting the Commons to any communication in affairs of State There are records hereof above a thousand yeer old in the Reign of King I a Offa and Ethelbert and the rest of the seven Kings during the Heptarchy They called their great Councels and Conventions then Michael Smoth Michael Gemote and Witenage Mote wherein the King and Nobles with the Bishops onely met and made laws that famous Convention at Gratley by King Athelstan was compose'd onely of Lords spiritual and temporal such also was that so much celebrated Assembly held by Canutus the Dane who was King of England Denmark and Norway Edward the Confessor established all his Laws thus and he was a great Legislator The British Kings also who retain'd a great while some part of this Island unconquered governed and made laws this way by the sole advice of their Nobles whom they call Arglwyded witnesse the famous Laws of Prince Howel called Howel Dha the good King Howel whereof there are yet extant some Welch records and divers of those Laws were made use of at the compilement of Magna Charea But in your discourse before among other Parliaments in Henry the third's time you make mention of one that was held in 55 of his reign at Marlbourough at which time Braston the great Lawyer was in high request being Lord Chief Justice They that would extenuate the Royal Prer●gative insist much upon a speech of his wherein he saith The King hath a Superiour God he hath also the Law by which he is made as also the Court viz. the Earls and Barons but not a word of the Commons But afterwards he doth interpret or rather correct himself when speaking of the King hee resolves thus Nec potest ei necessitatem aliquis imponere quòd injuriam suam corrigat emen●et cùm superiorem non habeat nisi Deum satis erit ei ad poenam quòd Dominum expectet ultorem Nor saith he can any man put a necessity upon the King to correct and amend his injury unlesse he wil himself since he hath no Superior but God It will be sufficient punishment for him to expect the Lord for his avenge To preserve the honour of this great Judge the Lawyers found out this distinction That the King is free from the coer●ive power of Laws and Councellors but he may be subject to their directive power yet according to his own will and inclination that is God can onely compel or command him but the Law and his Courts may onely advise and direct him but I pray Sir excuse me that I have so much interrupted you in your discourse You may please now to proceed Philanglus To prove my assertion further that the Commons were no part of the high Court and Common Councel of England I will make use of the testimony of Mr. Pryn who was in such high repute most part of the late long Parliament and appeared so eage● for the priviledge and power of the lower House In his Book of Treachery and disloyalty he proves that before the Norman Conquest by the Laws of Edward the Confessor the King was to do Justice by the Councel of the Nobles of his Realm he would also prove that the Earls and Barons are above the King and ought to Bridle him when he exorbitates from the law but not a syllable of the Commons He further tels us that the Peers and Prelates have oft translated the Crown from the right Heir whereof out of his great reading he urgeth divers Examples First after King Edgars decease they crowned Edward who was illegitimate and put by Ethelred the right Heir Then they crowned Canutus a meer forraigner in opposition to Edmund the lawful Heir to Ethelred Harold and Hardicanute were both elected Kings successively without just title the Lords putting by Edmund and Alfred the rightful Heirs Upon the death of Herold the English Nobility enacted that none of the Danish blood should raign any more over them Edgar Atheling was rejected by the Lords and though he had the best title yet they elected Harold He goes on further in prejudice of the Commons saying that the beginning of the Charter of Henry the first is observable which runs thus Henry by the Grace of God King of England c. Know ye that by the mercy of God and Common Council of the Barons of the Kingdom I am crowned King Mawd the Empress was the right heir but she was put by the Crown by the Prelates and Barons and Steven Earle of Mortmain who had no good title was heav'd up into the Throne by the Bishops and Peers Lewis of France was Crowned King also by the Barons instead of King John and by the same Barons was uncrowned and sent back to France In all these high transactions and changes Mr. Pryn confesseth the Commoners had nothing to do the despotical and ruling power as well as the consultative being in the Council of Prelates and Peers and if Mr. Pryn could have found halfe so much Antiquity for the Knights Citizens and Bourgesses without question we should have heard from him with a witness but while he converseth with Elder times he meets not with so much as the names of Commoners in any record Polyander How then came the Commoners to sway so much
of late years and challenge such an interest in the publique Government and making of Laws Philanglus It is a certain truth that in former ages the Kings of England as well Saxons Danes Normans and English Kings did steer the course of their government by the advice of their own Privy Council and in extraordinary cases by the compasse of the great Council consisting onely of spiritual and secular Barons whom they convoked by royal summons when they pleased I told you this word Parliament came in with the Norman yet the Commons were not call'd to Parliament till that raign of Henry the first which was a good while after the Conquest to which purpose Sir Walter Raleigh writes saying it is held that the Kings of England had no formal Parliaments till about the 18. year of Henry the first at which time the Commons were summoned and the great Charter was granted and if we believe Sir Walter Raleigh and others the House of Commons and Magna Charta had first but obscure births being sprung from userpers and fostered afterward by rebellion for King Henry the first did but usurp the Kingdome and therefore to secure himself the better against Robert his eldest brother he courted the the Commons and granted them that great Charter with Charta de Foresta which King John confirmed upon the same grounds for he was also an usurper Arthur Duke of Britain being the undoubted Heir of the Crown so the house of Commons and these great Charters had their original from such that were Kings de facto not de jure Polyander It is observed that usurpers are commonly the best Law makers which they do to ingratiate themselvs the more to the people as besides these Kings you have named Richard the third did who was said to be a good King though a bad man a character clean contrary to that I heard some abroad give of the last King who they said was a good man but an ill King but I pray be pleased to proceed Philanglus Whereas I told you before that it was in the raign of Henry the first that the people were admitted to the Common Council of the Kingdome yet they were not constantly called for though the said King called them to his Coronation and againe in the 15. or 18. year of his reign yet he did not so alwayes neither many of those Kings that succeeded Polyander I remember to have read one remarkable passage in the reign of Henry the first that in his third year for the marriage of his daughter he raised a tax upon every hide of Land but he did this by the advice of his Privy Council alone without consulting publiquely with either Prelate Peer or People Philanglus So did divers of his Antecessors and successors also after the Commons were admitted to partake of the Common Council But to illustrate this point further notwithstanding that the Commons were sought unto in Henry the first's time yet they were not constantly and formally sent unto till Henry the third in whose reign the Writs of Summons for elections were first issued but the succeeding Kings assum'd a power to regulate those Writs at pleasure by the sole advice of their Privy Council as we read in the time of Henry the sixth who was the first framer of that famous Ordinance Whereas Elections of Knights have been made with great outrages and excessive number of people of which most part was people of no value yet pretend a voice equivolent to worthy Knights and Esquires whereby many riots manslaughter and division among Gentlemen shal likely be Our Lord the King hath ordain'd that Knight of Shires be chosen by people dwelling in the Counties every one of them having lands or tenements to the value of 40 s. per annum at least and that he who is chosen be dwelling and resiant within the Counties where they are elected Polyander But did not the Kings of England reserve a power to except against any that came to Parliament Philanglus Mr. Camden speaking of the dignities of Barons saith that it was ordained and decreed in the reign of Henry the third that all those Earls and Barons unto whom the King himself vouchsafed to direct his Writs of Summons should come to his Parliament and no others And this rule Edward the first constantly observed and continued for as C●mden hath it that prudent King summoned alwaies those of ancient families and who were most wise to his Parliament and omitted their sons after their death if they were not answerable to their fathers in understanding in another place he saith select men for wisedom and worth among the Gentry were called to Parliament and their posterity omitted if they were defective herein Polyander If the King hath a power to except against a Nobleman from sitting in Parliament sure by an argument à majori ad minus he may do it against a Commoner Philanglus It should be so in reason and Queen Elizabeth who was so great a darling of her people did practise her power that way often But the modesty of the House of Commons was very great in former times for they did arrogate no more power then what the Kings Writ gave them they evaded matters of State as much as they could 13. of Edward the third a Parliament was called to consult of the domestick quiet the defence of the marches of Scotland and security of the Seas from enemies the Commons were desired their advise herein but they humbly desired not to be put to consult of things Queu●ils n'ont pas cognisance Things whereof they had no cogn●sance In 21. of the same King the Commons being mov'd for their advice touching a prosecution of a war with France by an elegant speech of Justice Thorp after four days consultation they answered That their humble desire to the King was that he would be advised there●n by the Lords being of more experience then themselves in such affairs In the 6. year of Richard the second the Parliament was call'd to consult whether the King should go in person to res●● the great City of Ga●nt or send an Army the Commons being ask●d their advice the humbly answered by Sir Thomas ●uckerin● their Speaker that the Councils of Wa● did more aptly belong to the King and 〈◊〉 Lords The next year after the Commo● are willed to advise of the Articles 〈◊〉 peace with France but they modestly e●cuse themselves as too weak to counsell in ● weighty mat●ers And being charged agai● as they did tender the repute of the County and right of their King the humbly de●ivered their opinions rathe● for Peace then Warre such was the moderation and modesty of the house of Commons in former times that they decline● the agitation and cognizance of hig● State affairs specially forraign humbl● transferring them to their Soveraign an● his Vpper Council a Parliament ma● then I mean a member of the Commons House thought to be the adequ●● object of his
to the King to make him the best beloved that ever was I thought that before his going to Scotland he had redress'd all grievances by those Acts of Grace you spoke of before Philanglus So he had and he rested not there but complid further with the house by condescending to an Act for putting down the Star Chamber Court the High Commission Court the Court of Honor nay he was contented that his Privy Councel shou●d be regulated and his Forests bounded not according to ancient Prerogative but late custom nay further he passed a Bill for the unvoting and utter exclusion of the spiritual Lords from the Parliament for ever Add hereunto that having placed two worthy Gentlemen Liev●enants of the Tower he remov'd them one after another to content the House and put in one of their election Lastly he trusted them with his Navy Royal and call'd home at their motion Sir I. Pennington who had then the guard of the narrow Seas Polyander I never remember to have heard or read of such notable Concessions from any King but how came the Bishops to be so tumbled out Philanglus The City rabble were still conniv'd at to be about Westminster Hall where they offered some out-rages to the Bishops as they went into the House hereupon they presented a Petition to the King and Parliament that they might be secur'd to repair thither to discharge their duties according to the Laws of the Land In which Petition there was a protest or Caveat that no Act should passe or be valid without them This Petition both for matter and form was much excepted against and cried up to be high Treason so twelve of the old Bishops were hurried to the Tower but some of the knowingest Lawyers being considered withall whether this was Treason in the Bishops or no they answered that it might be called Adultery as much as Treason so after many moneths imprisonment the charge of Treason being declin'd against them they were releas'd in the morning but coop'd up again in the afternoon then they were restored to a conditional liberty touching their persons but to be eternal●y excluded out of the house which made one of them in a kind of Prophetick way to tell one of the Temporal●Peers my Lord you see how we are voted out of the House and the next turn will be yours which proved true Polyander I remember when I was at York a Gentleman shewed me a fair old manuscript of some things passed in Henry the eighths time and one passage among the rest sticks in my memory how Cardinal Wolsey being sick at Leic●ster the King sent Sir Jo●n Kingston to comfort him to whom he answered Oh! Sir John 't is too late to receive any earthly comfort but remember my most humble allegeance to the King and tell him this story from a dying man The Bohemians repining at the Hierarchy of the Church put down Bishops but what followed then the Comunalty insulted over the Nobility and afterwards the King himself was depo●●d so the government grew a while to be meerly popular but then it turned from a Successive to be an Elective Kingdom This said he will be the fate of Eng. unless the King bear up the reverence ●ue to the Church and so I pray God that his Majesty may find more mercy at the tribunal of Heaven then I have upon the Earth But pray Sir be pleas'd to proceed Philanglus The Parliament having the Navy at their disposing which they found to be in a good equipage gramercy Ship money and having chosen the Earl of Warwick Commander in Chief notwithstanding the King excepted against him They demand all the Land Souldiers and Military strength of the Kingdom to be managed by them and to be put in what posture and under what Commanders they pleased But the King answered that he would consider of this and it was the first thing that he ever denied them yet at last he was contented to grant them this also for a limitted time but that would not serve the turn Hereupon growing sensible how they inched every day more and more upon the Royal Prero●ative He thought 't was high time for him to look to himself And intending with some of his menial servants onely to go to Hull to see a Magazin of ammunition which he had bought with his own treasure he was in a hostile manner kept out the Gates shut Cannons mounted Pistols cocked and levelled at him and there the Kings party said the war first began Polyander A hard destiny it was for a King to lose the love of his subjects in that manner and to fall a clashing with his great Council but under favour that demand of the Militia was somewhat too high for every natural Prince and supream Governour hath an inherent and inalienable right in the common strength of the Country for though the peoples love be a good Cittadel yet there must be a concurrence of some outward visible force besides which no Earthly power may dispose of without his command and for him to transmit this power to any other specially to any that he mistrusts is the onely way to render him inglorious unsafe and despicable both at home and abroad you know in the Fable when the Lion parted with his paws and the Eagle with her talons how contemptible the one grew among all beasts and the other among birds The Scepter and the Crown are but bables without a sword to support them There 's none so simple as to think ther 's meant hereby an ordinary single sword such as every one carrieth at his side no t is the publique Polemical sword of the whole Kingdom 't is an aggregative compound sword and 't is moulded of Bellmettle for 't is made up of all the Ammunition and Arms small and great of all the Military strength both by Land and Sea of all the Forts Castles and tenable places within and without the whole Country The Kings of England have had this sword by vertue of their Royal Signory as the Law faith from all times the Prerogative hath girded it to their sides they have employed it for repelling of forraign force for revenging of all National wrongs or affronts for quelling all intestine tumults The people were never capable of this sword the sundamental constitutions of this Land deny 〈◊〉 them 'T is all one to put a sword in a mad mans hand as in the peoples Now under favor the Supream Governor cannot transfer this sword to any other for that were to desert the protection of his people which is point blank against his oath and office but I crave your pardon again that I have detained you so long from the pursuit of your former discourse Philanglus The King being so shut out of one Town I mean Kingston upon Hull he might suspect that an attempt might be made to shut him in within some other Therefore be made a motion to the York-shire Gentlemen to have a guard for the
then the Parliament members themselves an Admiral also was sent to sea against whom the King excepted Polyander That was strange considering how oft the King had complied with them that way having at their request remov'd two Lievtenants of the Tower and taken one of their Election having remov'd the Governour about his son and taken one of their choice having remov'd Sir Thomas Glenham from Hull and nominated Hotham c. Philanglus The Presbyterians who had brought in the Scots Army before and were the activ'st men cried out that the whole Kingdom was like to be ruin'd by secret Plots and machinations That there was a design to bring in the Pope and to cast the civil Government into a French frame wherof they made the Pulpits to ring up and down nor did the Pulpit onely help to kindle this fire but the Presse also did contribute much thereunto dangers and jealousies and a kind of superfaetation of fears did daily increase in every corner Traduntque metus n●c poscitur Author As the Poet saith Polyander There be sundry sorts of fears There are conscientious fears there are pannick fears there are pusillaminous fears and there are politick fears The first proceeds from guilt of conscience which corns oft to phrensie The second fear may be called a kind of Chymera 't is some sudden surprizal or consternation proceeding from no grounds Pusillaminous fear makes a Mountain of a Mole-hill it proceeds from poverty of spirit and want of courage and is a Passion of abject and degenerous minds and is call'd cowardize Politique fear is a created forg'd fear wrought in another to bring some design about And as we finde the Astronomers as is said elsewhere do imagine such and such shapes and circles in the Heavens as the Zodiack Equinoctial C●lur●s Tropiq●es and others though there be no such things really in nature to verifie and make their conclusions good so the Sta●ist doth often devise and invent imaginary fears to make his proceedings the more plausible and thereby to compass his ends Or as the Sun useth to appear far bigger in the morning and evening then at noon when he is exalted to his Meridian and the reason the Philosophers use to give is the interposition of the vapours and exhalations which are in the lower Region of the air through which we look upon him as we find a piece of Silver look bigger in a Bason of water then elsewhere so the Polititian useth to cast strange mists of fears and fogs of jealousie before the simple peoples eyes to make dangers seem bigger It is observed that the Torpedo fish when he fears to be catched useth to disgorge an ●nky ●lack froth to puddle and darken the water that he may not be seen and so avoids taking so one trick of a Statist when he goes a fishing after some ends of his own is to cast out before the eyes of the credulous vulgar strange mists and apprehensions of fears and dangers that they may scape in them if need be But I pray deal clearly with me was there a design to bring in the Mass again Philanglus The Mass you may say there was a plot to bring in Mahomet as soon to bring in the Alchoran or Talmud as soon yet I believe there was a pernitious plot to bring in a new Religion but what Religion I pray it was not Papery but Presbytery and with it to Usher in Buchanan and Knox and to cast our Church and State into a Scots mould Polyander I must tell you indeed that I heard the English much censured and undervalued abroad for enslaving as it were their understandings and judgements in point of Religion to the Scots whom we made Christians and Reformed Christians first and now for us to run to them for a Religion what a disparagement think you is it But you spoke before of an Empeachment of high Treason the King had against the five Members for which he desired only the benefit of the Law I pray what was that Treason Philanglus The main charge of Treason that was intended to be exhibited against them was the private intelligence and combinations they held with a forreign nation and to have been the prime instruments of bringing in the Scots Army which had done so much mischiefe to England and was dismissed upon such inglorious terms for besides the plunder they got they had a vast sum of treasure to be gone which was not the usua● 〈◊〉 that our Progenitors used in dealing with the Scot for in former times England was 〈◊〉 to pay the Scot his Arrears when he came to visit her borders in another kind of mettal viz. with good Iron and Steel not with Gold and Silver but she hath soundly revenged her selfe since for the insolencies of that hungry Nation But to proceed The Hierarchy and English Liturgy being voted down there was a general liberty given to all consciences in point of Religion The Taylor and Shoomaker might have cut out what Religion they pleas'd the Vintner and Tapster might have broach'd what Religion they pleas'd the Druggist and Apothecary might have mingled her as they pleas'd the Haberdasher might have put her upon what block he pleas'd The Armorer Cutter might have furbrish'd her as they pleas'd the Dier might have put what colour the Painter what face they pleas'd upon her the Draper and Mercer might have measur'd her as they pleas'd the Weaver might have cast her upon what loom he pleas'd the Boat-swain and Mariner might have brought her to what deck they pleas'd the Barber might have trimm'd her as he pleas'd the Gardner might have lopp'd her as he pleas'd the Black-smith might have forg'd what Religion he pleas'd And so every one according to his profession and fancy was tollerated to form what Religion he pleas'd as was observ'd elsewhere Polyander Indeed I was told often beyond the Seas that the Liberty of the Gospel and the Liberty of the People were the two things which were mainly aim'd at but how did the war begin Philanglus I told you before that besides other causes the clashing of the Militia with the Commission of Array did put all things in disarray throughout the whole Kingdom many Declarations came from the King but they were prohibited at last to be published and the Printers punish'd A little after the Parliament voted an Army to take away ill Councellours from about the Kings person and the Earl of Fssex was appointed General with whom they voted to live and die Polyander Me thinks that Lord was not so proper for the service in regard his Father before him lost his head upon the like occasion for offring to amove ill Councellors from about Queen Elizabeth but I beleeve he might have a private quarrel of his own with the Court in that his first wise was Articled and sentenc'd away from him and married to a Scotch man whom he much hated in King James his time who made a deep asseveration that if