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A50499 Observations concerning the dominion and sovereignty of the seas being an abstract of the marine affairs of England / by Sir Philip Medows, Knight. Meadows, Philip, Sir, 1626-1718. 1689 (1689) Wing M1567; ESTC R9028 41,043 66

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to that of the Sovereign of the Wrong-doer and there Impleads him and prays for Justice If a Frenchman kill a Frenchman one Alien another upon the Land of England the Fact is committed within the local Ligeance of the King of England and against the Peace and Protection of his Crown and therefore triable before his Courts But if two Englishmen be under the Pay and Service of the French King and one of them Kill the other aboard a French Man of War within the 4 Seas The French King's Judicature will have the Conusance of the Crime as done within his Ligeance and against the Peace and Protection of his Crown Thus stands the matter of Fact as to the Marine Jurisdiction and thus it has been for many Ages but yet there is an ancient President which seems to impugn something that has been said and not to take notice of it were to report things unfaithfully and therefore I crave leave to examine it 'T is a Bundle or Roli in the Tower of London Superscribed De Superioritate Maris Angliae Jure Officii Admiralitatis in codem Record I can scarce call it 〈…〉 cap. 27 for 't is not any Judicial Act or Monument of a Court of Record and it may be read as 't is transcribed at large by Lord Chief Justice Cake and by Mr. Selden who highly insists upon it I shall abbreviate it truly and in short the Case was this A League had been concluded betwixt Edward the First of England and Philip the Fair of France Of the 〈…〉 in which it was Covenanted that each should defend the others Rights and Neither relieve the other's Enemy After this a War ensued betwixt Philip and the Earl of Flanders whom Edward secretly savoured Whereupon Reyner Grimbald who was General at Sea for the King of France took several Ships both of England and of other Nations Trading to Flanders and confiscated Ships and Goods and imprison'd Persons as carrying Relief to an Enemy Upon which and other Complaints Commissioners were appointed by both Kings call'd in the Roll writ in Norman French Auditours Deputez per les Roys d'Engleterre de France a redresser les dammages faits The Plaintiffs who were of several Nations appear by their Procurators or Attorneys before the said Commissioners and joyn all together in one Bill or Libel as being all involv'd in one Common Cause In the Rehearsal of the said Libel 't is alledg'd that Whereas the Kings of England by reason of the said Kingdom from time to time whereof there is no Memory to the contrary have been in peaceable Possession of the Sovereign Dominion of the Sea of England and of the Isles of the same by Ordaining of Laws c. And whereas 't is Covenanted in the League lately made betwixt the two Kings that each should Defend the others Rights Franchises and Liberties c. Monsieur Reyner Grimbald Commander of the Fleet of the King of France who Names himself Admiral of the said Sea being Commissioned by that King to serve him in his W●● against Flanders hath contrary to the said League wrongfully assumed the Office of the Admiralty in the said Gea of England upon Pretence of the said Commission taking the People and Merchants c They pray that the Persons Ships and Goods so taken may be delivered to the Admiral of the King of England to whom the Counsance of the whole Matter of Right appertain'd He who shall read more at large in the places before quoted the magnificent Attributes given to the Kings of England of their being peaceably possess'd time immemorial of the Sovereign Dominion of the Sea of England by ordaining Laws and Statutes Prohibiting Arms and Armed Vessels taking Sureties and giving Safeguards and ordaining all other things necessary to the Preservation of Peace and Right amongst all People passing upon that Sea c. will at first view be ready to cry out suimus Troes fuit Ilium We were English men England was and yet perhaps no need of such Exclamation At first reading it seem'd to me at some distance like a Stone Wall athwart my way and no possibility of passing farther but when I examined it more nearly I found it but a Silken Curtain of specious words drawn artificially before the Eye and easie to be put back by the hand 1. First it is to be noted that all this is but a Plaidoyé a Plea or Action a Supplicatory Libel or Bill of Complaint No definitive Sentence or Arrest nothing that did pass in rem Judicatam This alone were there nothing more is sufficient to abate the intrinsick Value of it The Roll makes no mention of any decision given by the Delegates upon any the Matters contain'd in the Libel and either none was given which seems most probable and those Controversies decided some other way or the Roll is left imperfect 2. Though the Interessents of several Nations as Danes Germans Hollanders c. suffered Dammages by the Seisures of Grimbald in like manner as the English did and therefore joyn'd with them in the same Libel yet the Libel was penn'd by English Council as is manifest by the Address or Direction o● it A vous Seigneurs Auditeurs Deputez To you Lords Auditors deputed Par les Roys d'Engleterre de France by the Kings of England and France where England has the preference of Order to France contrary to the style of Neutral Nations of that Age. 3. The Allegation of the Kings of England having been time immemorial in the peaceable Poss●ssion of the Sovereignty of the Sea was not made by the French Delegates in the Name of the King their Master but by English Advocats in favour of their Clients Cause The French King had Commission'd Grinthald to exercise Jurisdiction at Sea by Arresting and Confiscating Ships and Goods and Imprisoning Persons for carrying Relief to the Earl of Flanders his Enemy by which Commission Grimbald justified himself for doing such Acts as were manifestly repugnant to the peaceable Possession of the said Sovereign Dominion on the part of England If the King of France had acknowledged the Admiral of England the only competent Judge of thing● done and committed upon the Sea of England why did he together with the King of England depute Auditors or Delegates for determining those Matters then in Controversie 4. The Art in penning the said Libel is remarkable it affirms the Marine Jurisdiction of the Admiral of England but it does not except against a Power in the King of France to constitute an Admiral with the like Jurisdiction and that upon the Sea towards Flanders 〈…〉 For 't is certain that the Crown of France had Admirals before the time of Philip the Fair. 'T is true that great Body of the Kingdom of France had been cantoniz'd and divided after the manner of the German Nations into many Franca F●uda as they ●ali'd them Free Fees which are supreme and independent Sovereignties only the persons of those
Licensed and Entered according to Order OBSERVATIONS CONCERNING THE DOMINION AND SOVEREIGNTY OF THE SEAS BEING An ABSTRACT of the MARINE AFFAIRS of England By Sir PHILIP MEDOWS Knight In the SAVOY Printed by Edw. Jones and sold by Samuel Lourdes against Exeter Change in the Strand and by Edward Jones in the Savoy 1689. TO THE READER THE Dominion of the Sea as 't is most apt to be made the fair Colour and specious Pretence to a War betwixt England and Holland when the Real Causes of such War are hidden and remote so nothing will so effectually preserve a lasting Union between Them by hindering the Root of Discord from growing again as a true Knowledge and right Understanding of that Matter About which there are many Traditional Mistakes and Popular Errors too currant among Vs and such as are not of a simple and innocent Nature but very dangerous and of evil Consequence The Consideration whereof gave the first occasion to the following Discourse which was Composed several Years since was Read and Presented to His late Majesty King Charles the Second and well accepted by Him and has since remained a Manuscript in the hands of several Persons of Quality And though it might receive a new Turn and Air more accommodate to the Present State of things and though the Time when it was written the Person for whom and the Niceness of the Subject it self obliged the Author to more of Caution and Reserve than perhaps would now be needful yet He was not willing to make any Alterations in it chusing rather to speak the Language of Truth than of Times for what was once True is always so though not always equally fit to be made Publick But surely now if ever 't is seasonable to remove all Obstacles and Impediments out of the way of a good Understanding between the two Nations when their most intimate Union and Conjunction is not only as at other Times highly expedient but absolutely necessary THE PREFACE SHEWING THE Author's Design THE following Discourse may possibly upon a slight and superficial view seem to have some tendency towards the diminution of the Rights of England and consequently the enlargement of those of other Governments but upon a serious and deliberate Perusal there will not appear any just Ground for such Imputation 'T is doubtless very commendable in a Subject if he can with sound Judgment and convincing Reason advance the Pretensions of his Sovereign amongst Foreign Nations If it be the part of a good Judge Ampliare Curiam t is much more of a good Subject Ampliare Coronam For we all shine in the Glory of the Crown that is over us and even private persons have something of Lustre reflected on them from the Honour and Grandeur of the Monarchy under which they live Upon which account Mr. Selden has excellently well deserv'd of the Publick by heightning the Sea-Sovereignty of the Crown of England in his Learned Book entituled Mare Clausum a Treatise so comprehensive of what can be said on that Argument that he who should now write of the same would certainly incur the old Censure of writing an Iliad after Homer But if all the Claims and Pretensions of the Crown of England supported by the Authorities and Allegations produced in that Book shall be vouch'd as the proper Standard and Measure of Right and Wrong betwixt Us and other Nations if the Controverting thereof by Them shall be esteemed by Us as an Invasion and Usurpation and consequently the just cause and foundation of a War If what is well written must be fought for too not being to be gain'd but by a longer Tool than a Pen the King of England will unavoidably be cast upon this ha●d Dilemma either of being involved in endless and dangerous Quarrels with all his Neighbours abroad or of having his Honour and Reputation prostituted at home as tamely suffering the best Jewels of his Crown to be ravished from it and the Regalities thereof transmitted to him from his most noble Progenitors to be usurp'd by Foreigners Nor does the Mischief cease here for in case he should at any time enter into a War for the more vigorous asserting and maintaining those Pretensions and they not be included in the Terms and Conditions of the following Peace the Inference will be this That he was so far worsted in the War as to be constrained to buy a Peace if not by a total abandoning of them yet at least by a temporary Recession from those Pretensions Let me add one Consideration more If a War betwixt England and any other Kingdom or State be grounded and stated upon a Sea-Dominion by help of this Advantage an Enemy will gain the Weather-gage of us and derive from it a considerable Benefit to himself Hoc Ithacus velit A Dutch-man will desire no better For by this means we shall disoblige and disaffect all our Neighbours to our Cause and Quarrel at such a time when we most need their Friendship and Assistance This will awaken Fears and Jealousies and strongly alarm them to an early securing of their own Navigation and Commerce against those who would impropriate the Seas They will not so much regard the Justice of our Cause as the Consequents of our Success and will be sure to range themselves with Heart or Hand or both as occasion shall require on that side to which they shall be invited by a common and complicate Interest It will not be a War betwixt this Prince and That betwixt Holland and England but betwixt the Continent and an Island and the Question will be briefly this Whether the Island shall have the Sea to her self or whether the Continent shall have share with her As this is consonant and agreeable to Reason to suppose that it will be so so 't is verified by Experience that in Fact it has been so We need look back no farther than the Year 1665. England was then in open War with Holland and as previous thereto the Parliament granted a Royal Aid the end whereof is publickly declared in the Preamble of the Act An. 16 17 Car. II. viz. To equip and set out to Sea a Royal Navy for the Preservation of His Majesties ancient and undoubted Sovereignty and Dominion in the Seas This was exactly calculated for the Meridian of England it serv'd to inspire our Captains and Officers with Honour to animate our Seamen with Courage to dispose the whole Body of the People with Chearfulness and Unanimity to undergo so mighty a Supply answerable to the Greatness of the Undertaking But it serv'd not to so good Effects beyond Sea as soon appeared for the Balance of Success had no sooner inclined to England by that signal Victory obtain'd under the happy Conduct of His then Royal Highness over the Dutch Fleet An. 1665. commanded by Lieutenant-Admiral Opdam but France stood over to Holland Denmark was following and had the War continued and the Series of Success not been interrupted
Sovereigns under a Personal Obligation of Fealty to another The respective sen●●●ry Princes were siduciary Homagers to the Kings of France but the Crown of France had no Regal Jurisdiction or Authority within those Frincipalities Thus the great Dakedoms of Aquitain and Normandy were under the Kings of England that of Britany was under a Duke of its own the Earldoms of Provence Tolose and ●anders acknowledged their own Sovereign Counts In those days the Crown of France had only a small Sea-Coast upon Picardy and some in the Mediterranean But in the time of Philip the Fair that Crown was in the actual possession of all Normandy and as the other Principalities became reincorporated into the Body of France from whence they had formerly been dismembred as now they all are excepting some part of Flanders that Kingdom as it enlarg'd it self to the Sea by the accession of many new Coasts so the Marine Jurisdiction thereof encreas'd proportionably I say the fore-recited Libel does not deny a Civil Power or Capacity in the Crown of France to create an Admiral and to invest him with Marine Jurisdiction But the Exception is partly against the Person of Grimbald and partly against his illegal Practises and Seisures contrary to the Alliance made betwixt the two Kings Now this Grimbald was a Foreigner and a Mercenary he was a Genoese whom the King of France had hired with several Gallies of that Republick to serve him in his War against Flanders The Plaintiffs in their Libel call him Maistre de la Navy du Roy de France Master or Commander of the French Fleet but would not vouchsafe him the Title of an Admiral only Que se dit estre Admiral that he call'd himself an Admiral and craftily reclaim the Conusance of their Cause from him as an incompetent Judge to the Admiral of England as an undoubted Authority and before whom they were sure to gain their Process I Have done with the Marine Jurisdiction Of the Fishery and proceed now to the third and last Incident of the Dominion of the Sea and which inseparably follows it and that 's the sole Fishing without which it would be a Property without Profit a Name without a Thing He who has the Soil or Ground has the Herbage and other Growth of it or else a Rent for it if others may freely depasture with him it is a Common The Enquiry is upon the Matter of Fact as to Fishing upon the Seas about England in which our publick Treaties made betwixt our Kings and other Sovereigns will be our best Direction And they stand thus All the ancient Treaties I could meet with concluded betwixt the several Kings of England and their old Confederates the Dukes of Britanny and Burgundy which in those Ages were the most powerful Neighbours they had at Sea are of the same tenour and run in the same form viz. They Covenant on both sides that their respective Subjects should freely and without the let or hinderance one of another fish every where upon the Seas without asking any Licenses Pasports or safe Conducts This is the General Form of them all For Example In the Treaty betwixt Edward the 4th of England and Francis Duke of Britanny the Article in the French of that time runs thus That the Fishermen both of the Kingdom of England and Dutchy of Britanny Purront peaceablement aller par tout sur Mer pour pescher gaigner leur vivre sans impeachement ou● disturber de l'une partie ou de l'autre sans leur soit besoigne sur ceo requirir sauf Conduct And the same form had been used before in the Treaty betwixt Henry the 6th and the then Dutchess of Burgundy Thus also in the famous Treaty called Intercursus magnus made in the Year 1495 betwixt Henry the 7th of England and Philip the 4th Archduke of Austria and Duke of Burgundy in the 14th Article 't is agreed Quod Piscatores utriusque partis poterint ubique ire Navigare per Mare secure piscari absque impedimento licentia seu salvo conductu And this form is also kept to in the Treaty made betwixt Henry the Eighth and Cha●les the Fifth Emperour and Duke of Burgundy In the time of Queen Elizabeth after that seven of the seventeen Provinces had set up distinct Sovereignties of their own they still enjoyed the same freedom of Fishing as they had done before when united with the House of Burgundy And in the Treaty made betwixt King James of England and Philip of Spain in the Year 1604 the ancient Treaties of Entercourse and Commerce betwixt the Kingdoms of England Scotland and Irelan● and the Dominions of the Dukes of Burgandy and Princes of the Low-Countries are reviv'd and reconsirm'd From whence it appears upon the whole Matter of Fact That the Kings of England in their Treaties with other Sovereigns not once or twice but in a Succession of Ages not by surprize but deliberately and when the business of the Fishery came under special consultation did not challenge to themselves the sole Right thereof exclusively of all others as being appropriated to the Crown of England For had they esteemed the Fishery the Property of their Crown and all Aliens excluded from it they would not have admitted the Subjects of Britanny and Burgundy to a promiscuous Fishing with their own Subjects without some valuable Consideration had been given for it or at least some License obtained as a beneficiary Grant derived from them or some Acknowledgment made by way of a Salvo Jure a Saving to the Right of the Crown or England Else it would be as unreasonable as if a Man should throw down the Inclosures of his own Ground and lay that common which before was his Property which is too gross a Reflection upon the Wisdom of those Ages And this may be further illustrated by a samiliar Instance Suppose here in England two great Mannors and betwixt them a large Lake of fresh Waters well stored with Fish and it can be proved That not only Time out of Mind the Tenants of the two Mannors have promiscuously fished therein but that also the Lords of both Mannors have in several Ages contracted each with other for a free Fishing without Leave or License to be first ask'd or obtain'd for their respective Tenants And in the Contract no Exception or Reservation is made of the Fishery as parcel of the Inheritance of one of the said Mannors nor any Words creating a Tenure whereby one should hold of the other nor expressing or implying that it was but a Temporary Sufferance that one of the Lords should share for a time in the Profits of the Fishing without any share in the Fee or Inheritance of it And this by the free Donation of the other commonly call'd De Gratia Speciali or for a valuable Consideration usually termed Quid pro quo or to hold by some small Acknowledgment of Tenure as of a P●pper-Corn Yearly But the Contract
stands on both sides upon an equal foot both Lords equally giving and taking an undisturb'd Liberty for their respective Tenants This I humbly conceive is good Evidence that the Fishery lies common to both Mannors Suppose again this Lake to be the Sea and the two Mannors to be two Kingdoms and the Case will still be the same None of our Leagues and Treaties made either with the House of Burgundy or with the House of Austria since the Union of those two Houses or with the States General since their disunion from both have ever reserved to the Crown of England any Annual Payment Fee-Farm or Consideration for their liberty of Fishing in our Seas A certain Sum was never agreed an uncertain one could never be demanded And yet Sir John Boroughs in his Book of The Sovereignty of the British Seas says That Philip the Second King of Spain obtain'd of Queen Mary his Wise License for his Subjects to fish upon the North Coasts of Ireland they paying yearly for the same One thousand Pounds Sterling which was accordingly paid into the Exchequer of Ireland But instead of an Authentick Record he vouches only the hearsay of Sir Edward Fitton Son to Sir Henry Fitton sometime Treasurer of Ireland who he says had often testified it This may the rather be suspected of mistake Annal. Eliz. An. 1602. because Mr. Cambden relates how that Queen Elizabeth having sent four Ambassadors whereof one was Principal Secretary of State and not lightly to be supposed ignorant of such an Affair to treat at Bremen with the Ambassadors of Denmark upon Complaint of that King 's forbidding Foreigners the freedom of Fishing betwixt Norway and Iseland both appertaining to the Crown of Denmark The Queen's Ambassadors openly affirmed that the Kings of England had in no time forbid the freedom of Fishing in the Irish Sea albeit they were Lords of both Banks The said Mr. Cambden in his description of the North-Riding of Yorkshire speaking of Scarborow-Castle says That the Hollanders and Zelanders take wonderful Quantities of Herring upon this Coast Cùm veniam priùs veteri instituto ex hoc Castro impetraverint Whereas they were wont by ancient Use to ask leave first of the Castle For says he the English always gave leave to Fish reserving that Honour to themselves but slothfully resigning the Profit to others But all this while he quotes no Authority neither nor directs us to any Original Record where we might consult the plain Truth of the Case Perhaps what he Historically calls Asking Leave was but giving notice of their Arrival and acquainting the Governor who they were and what their Business was upon the Coasts lest under the disguise of Fishermen Pirats and Enemies might privily hide themselves And probably he by his Civilities to the Fishermen might make some Perquisits and Profits to his Place by permitting them as occasion required to dry their Nets ashore to fetch Victual or fresh Water from Land to fish within the Havens and Bays where commonly the best fed Fish are taken But 't is not likely that the Governor of Scarborow had so indefinite a Power as to enable him to give leave upon bare Asking without any further Condition or Consideration to all Foreigners to fish at pleasure within the Royalties of the Crown However 't is too manifest That no Prince nor State did ever pay to the Crown of England any yearly Sum of Money or other valuable Consideration for the Liberty of their Subjects Fishing upon the Seas of England for had such Sum been paid it would have passed into the Accompt of the Exchequer as a Branch of the Royal Revenue and there remain upon Record As for the Case of my Lord of Northumberland in the Year 1636 that 's extraordinary and will not pass for a President The Dutch Busses were then required by the English Admiral to take Licences from him for Fishing in the Northern Seas and to pay moderate Rates for the obtaining those Licences which they did to redeem themselves from the forcible Molestations of a well-appointed Fleet. So that this was the Compulsory Act of private Persons not the Voluntary Act of the States-General who were so far from consenting to what was done that they made Remonstrances and Complaints of this Proceeding by their Ambassadors here in England And as it appears not by the Records of the Exchequer That any Recompence was given by Foreigners for Liberty of Fishing within our Seas so neither does it appear by any the publick Treaties That the Subjects of any Foreign Prince should ask leave for so doing by Stipulation and Contract though they were sure to have it without paying any thing only by the bare asking to keep in memory a perpetual Acknowledgment of a beneficiary Grant derived from the Crown of England as Supream Lord of the Fee. On the contrary the Treaties caution for a Liberty of Fishing absque licentia without any Leave or Licence first to be ask'd And yet England has ask'd leave and covenanted so to do of a foreign Crown I would not have mentioned this had it been a Secret but 't is a thing publick and in Print By Treaty made and concluded in the Year 1490 betwixt Henry the Seventh of England and John the Second King of Denmark which Treaty was afterwards renewed betwixt our Henry the Eighth and their Christiern the Second Anno 1523. it was mutually covenanted That the Liegemen Merchants and Fishermen of England should Fish and Traffick upon the Northern Sea betwixt Norwey and Iseland V. Cambd. Annal ad An. 16●0 but under a Proviso of first asking leave and renewing their Licences from seven Years to seven Years de Sept●unio in Septennium from the Kings of Denmark and N●rwey and their Successors they are the words of the Treaties But as Navigation enlarged and England grew more op●lent in Trade and posent at Sea all this is gone into utter disuse and discontinuance and the Kings of England may with better Right prohibit the Subjects of Denm●k from passing the English Sea or Channel without special Licence first obtain'd than the Kings of Denmark can the Subjects of England from passing the Northern Sea betwixt D●●●ark and Iseland There is a Record 〈…〉 which Mr. Selden quotes out of a Parliament Role of King Richard the Second is very remarkable 'T is a Grant in Parliament of an Imposition according to certain Rates and Proportions upon all Vessels Passing or Fishing within the Admiralty of the North viz. Upon the Sea Northwards from the Mouth of the Thames The Rates were as follow 1. To take of every Ship going and coming upon that Sea Six Pence a Tun for the Voyage 2. To take of every Vessel Fishing for Herring Six Pence a Tun by the Week 3. To take of Vessels Fishing for other Fish Six Pence a Tun for every Three Weeks 4. Of Ships laden at Newcastle with Coals Six Pence a Tun for every Three Months 5. To take of all