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A64804 Military and maritine [sic] discipline in three books. Venn, Thomas. Military observations. 1672 (1672) Wing V192; ESTC R25827 403,413 588

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think few or none who be avouched The Priest of Saint Margaret with his Bow and Arrows unless the president of the Priest of Saint Margarets near Dover shall be admitted for one of whom the old Fletchers retain a memorial in honour of their Bowes who is said with his Bow and Sheaf of arrows to have kept down the French men that offered to land in a narrow passage up the Clift near Dover Who came for fresh water as was supposed where they found a gate fast barred and lockt to stop the same And he standing over them on the top of the Clift played a tall Bow mans part when as in these dayes the French had not any shot but some few Cross-bows that could not deliver an Arrow half way up the Clift to him and so it was given out that he kept them down till the Country was come down to the Sea side to repell them back to their Boats or rather I suppose my self knowing the place when they saw the gate was so fast as they could not suddenly break it open they returned before their coming But yet I must confess the Bow bare the bell before the Divel I suppose sent the musquet c. out of Hell But here lest the Authour be mistaken he prefers the force of the Harquebuz and Musquet far before the Bow yet in judgement doth not disallow the Bow but rather judge the same to be a serviceable and warlike weapon as well in Town as Field and although it be not greatly pertinent to this question yet it may be convenient to consider here how and wherein good use may be made of this weapon first in the field against the Horse men The use of the bow how serviceable though it be shot at the highest random only with the weight of the fall it galleth both Horse and Man and though the wound be not mortal yet both Horse and man are hereby made unserviceable then and long after if they escape death Secondly in rainy weather when men come near together it is a good weapon Thirdly in the night time it is a ready and a secret shot c. and the use of it may be good in the forcing of the Enemies Trenches in fallying out of Town or else Fourthly at an assault when all the defences are taken away in any Town you may deliver your Arrows over the wall and shroudly gall your Enemy with the fall of them Fifthly to shoot Arrows with wild fire to burn gate or draw bridge to fire thatched or shingled houses When our English Army was before Paris those of our Commanders wished they had brought Bow men over with them and I see no reason it should be wholly laid aside for the worst Bow man that can but draw his Bow is better than a bad fire man But if we should not make use of our Bow in any of our warlik enterprises it should be every Commanders care to chuse good fire men for Ammunition is much wasted by the unskifulness of the Musquetteer and execution not to expectation Mustermasters cure and as we have an order established for our Musquet bore I could wish the Mustermaster in every County would look so to it that they may not be too big as well as too little But now touching landing let us see what may be conceived out of the former experience Examples and presidents of landing Did not the Earl of Warwick notwithstanding the Duke of Burgundies great and puissant Navy which he had provided to joyn with Edward the fourth for the impeaching the Earls landing from out of France and the fleet being before the Haven in Normandy out of the which the Earl must come the Duke having also warned the King into what part and Port of England the Earl meant to make his descent whereby in all likelyhood he was or migt have been provided sufficiently to withstand the same yet I say did it not so fall out that the Earl of Warwick escaped their Fleet landed in England and drove the King to flee for succour into the Low Countries and enlarged Henry the sixth and set him in his former estate After this did not Edward the fourth with some small aid from the Duke of Burgundie given him Edward the fourth relanded in England and deposed Henry the sixth and that under hand both of shipping men and money transport himself into England again and in Battel slew the Earl of Warwick and his adherents deposed Henry the sixth resuming again unto himself the Kingdom of England Have not the Kings of England many times entered France by Navie and Scotland during the time of Wars betwixt them Queen Mary landed 5000. in Britany and burnt Conquet Did not Queen Mary land 5000 men in Brittany one of the most popular parts of all France and there sackt and burnt Conquet and other places our men remaining on shoar two dayes and a night burning and spoyling and were not or rather could not be resisted upon the suddain Have not our English though but small forces in Queen Elizabeths dayes landed in the Indies English landed in the Indies at sundry times sackt and ransacked their Towns brought away their Munition with other great spoyles and riches yet at their landing were not withstood English in Spain and Purtugal And did not our Army land in Spain and Portugal at sundry times and in sundry places they having knowledge a long time before of their coming whereby the Country was or might have been in that readiness themselves would have desired and yet by a temporizing course used against them they were driven to retire both feeble and broken whereas if they had been fought withall at their landing and had won the field there had been a great hope they might have prevailed in that enterprise The Spanish Forces landed in Portugal Did not the Spanish forces also land in Portugal his other Army by land under the conduct of the Duke of Alva who by wining the Battel won the Kingdom withal and drove the King quite out of his Countrey The French in Terceras And did not the French forces likewise land in the Terceras in despite of the Country And did not the Spanish forces after reland slay and drive all out again The Spanish relanded there Infinite are the presidents of landing and a rare matter to find any example of an Army coming to invaid to be prevented of landing by the Countries fury and running down to the Sea side and what Souldier or man of War would not undertake to land even a few men in comparison of a royal Army in any Princes Realmes and Dominions spoile and burn at his pleasure until such time they had assembled greater forces than the inhabitants of the Coasts Whatsoever a man cannot resist he must give way unto Reason and experience do plainly prove that it cannot be withstood but that a forceable Enemy will land
Therefore the best remedy will be to give him way and withal to remember to do all things like wise men and Souldiers as hath been said already by driving and withdrawing the Countries cattel and provisions that your Enemy may not be relieved and nourished Duke of Alva against the Prince of Orenge Did not the Duke of Alva defeate the Prince of Orenges great Army by forbearing to fight with him and leaving him a vast Country to walk and way himself in Did not the Constable of France defeat the Emperours attempt upon Province France against the Emperor by this only temporizing course Did he not burn the Mills destroy the Ovens spoyle the fruit c. himself retiring to Avignon there to joyn with his forces after that he had provided for the frontier Towns leaving nothing but a wast Country for his Enemies to spend themselves in whereby he drove the Emperor in the end to make a most dishonourable retreit Monsieur de Langey doth alledge that example of the Constable of France proving greatly his device and policy therein Notwithstanding there were divers who did not stick to blame him for that he did not seek to stop the Enemies passage through the mountains which they supposed he might have done very easily and with few men But he foreseeing the mischief that might grow by a small foyl or loss received at the first thought it the safest way to prevent all dangers by temporizing until his forces were assembled in full strength and his Enemies weakned saying moreover that it is a great point of wisdome for a Prince or Captain General to defer fighting when the Enemies are entered in his Country for saith he if the battel should be lost through the encountring of them the Country would also be in hazzard to be lost and this may appear by divers examples First The King of Hungary against the Turk the King of Hungary being assailed by the Turk in the year 1562. thought it better to hazzard the Battel and to fight with the Turk at his arrival than to forbear and stand upon his guard which was the cause he himself was slain and a great part of his kingdom lost William the Conquerour and Henry the seventh got the Crown of England by Battel And did not William the Conquerour and King Henry the seventh become kings of England by reason the defendent gave them battel at their landing and lost the same Obj. But some may here object that the Parties and Factions within the land were cause thereof And doth any man think that a Forraign Prince is so void of Judgment as that he thinketh to prevaile by way of Conquest without a party The Duke of Burgundie won the Countrey of Leigh by Battel Did not the Duke of Burgundie get the Country of Leidge by reason of some Battel he won against the the people thereof Philip de Comines saith that a man ought greatly to fear to hazzard his estate on a Battel when he may otherwise avoid the same for faith he of a small number of people lost there followeth a great change to him that loseth them not so much by the fear they conceive of the Enemy as in the little estimation they will have of their Master afterward being ready still to enter into mutinies demanding things more boldly than they were wont alledging further that one Crown before will do more with them than three will do after Whosoever will read the Book of the actions of Lewis the eleventh King of France who was both a very wise and valiant Prince shall find Lewis the eleventh aginst Charles the Duke of Burgundies Son that after the great incounter between him and Count Charles the Duke of Burgundies son at Mountleyrre notwithstanding that the conflict went so indifferent as neither side knew almost by the space of three or four hours after who had the Victory so soon as each party had rallied their broken Troops c. having some good means so to do by reason of a great ditch and long hedge that was between their two Armies where the fight first began although the Kings power remained still great by reason of so many Princes as he had assembled together yet then and ever after he determined no more to venture so great a Kingdom as France was upon the uncertain event of a Battel And therefore the night following he dislodged and retired to Corbel after which time he carried all his Wars with such a Temporizing course as thereby he wearied his Enemies and became a mighty Prince making his Army so great as his adversaries at no time after durst attempt to give him Battel Although Philip de Comines doth write that our Nation hath been wonderfully fortunate in Battel and are much addicted thereunto yet he doth more allow of the politique and wise temporizing of Lewis the French King in forbearing to fight with Edward the fourth when he entered France proffering him Battel near Amyens Lewis against Edward the fourth The King considering how dangerous an adventure it was to his estate If it should not succeed well with him looking also back to the great thraldome and subjection that his predecessors had brought the Kingdome of France into under the English Nation by such like rash acceptance of Battel he determined to temporize though it were to his charges thereby to weaken the King of England the winter season drawing then on In the mean time sending great presents to those that were near about the King and Victuals of free-gift to relieve his Army condescending also to pay a yearly sum of 50000 Crowns into the Tower of London thereby to hasten the peace and to get our Nation to return After all was concluded and the King returned home one of the King of Englands men being with Phillip de Comines in discourse he told him he had been at the winning of nine Battels and how many said Phillip have you been at the losing Only one said he and that was at the last forbearance of my Master to fight with yours at Amyens whereby we have gotten more shame unto our selves than honour by the first nine When Lewis the King heard of this speech he said this is a shrewd boy and sent for him to dine with him and after gave him 1000 Crowns with other great promises to the intent he should be a means to entertain the peace begun between the two Kings What success had the French at the Battel at Poytiers and Cressey The Battels of Poytiers and Cressey who although they were in number far greater than the English and in the heart of their own Country yet they tasted nothing but the bitter effect of a lost field And we by other such manifold examples might be warned not to commit the good estate of a Realme to so tickle and dangerous a trial as is the uncertain sway of a Battel Spanish Fleet defeated 88. And now never to