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A07811 A iust and moderate answer to a most iniurious, and slaunderous pamphlet, intituled, An exact discouery of Romish doctrine in case of conspiracie and rebellion Wherein the innocency of Catholike religion is proued, and euery obiection returned vpon the Protestant accuser, and his owne profession. With licence of superior. Broughton, Richard. 1606 (1606) STC 18188; ESTC S112914 49,079 64

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pa._n 25●_n 253._o 254_o 255_o ●●6_n etc._n etc._n sup_v there_o recite_v and_o not_o confute_v by_o any_o protestant_n i_o will_v recite_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o principal_a protestant_n of_o this_o time_n doctor_n fulke_n in_o plain_a term_n acknowledge_v council_n d_o fulke_n hebr_n c_o 13_o ●ect_n 9_o 1._o pe●r_n 2._o v._n 13._o ●●ct_v 5._o joh._n c._n 21._o 1._o petr_n 5._o mat._n c._n 16._o bell._n mo●iu_o lib._n 2._o fol._n 78_o 79._o 80._o 81_o suru_n part_n 3._o c._n 10_o pa._n 426._o &_o 1._o part_n pag_n 34._o whit●ker_fw-mi contra_fw-la bellar_n controu_fw-fr 1._o q_o 8._o d._n 〈◊〉_d li._n the_o council_n that_o emperor_n and_o king_n owe_v obedience_n to_o the_o clergy_n and_o can_v prescribe_v lawe●_n of_o religion_n to_o bishop●_n by_o their_o judgement_n master_n bell_n write_v the_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n to_o be_v in_o the_o clergy_n as_o to_o decide_v controversy_n and_o that_o the_o king_n have_v only_a charge_n and_o authority_n to_o command_v the_o
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