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A95991 A true narrative of som [sic] remarkable-proceedings concerning the ships Samson, Salvador, and George, and several other prize-ships depending in the High Court of Admiralty; humbly presented to the Parliament of the Common-wealth of England, and the Councell of State, and the Councell of Officers of his excellency the Lord Generall. / By Tho. Violet of London, gold-smith. Violet, Thomas, fl. 1634-1662. 1653 (1653) Wing V593; Thomason E1070_4; ESTC R208665 74,616 123

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no doubt will leave no stone unroled to prevent us in that particular if great care be not taken in this businesse All the Premisses considered I humbly desire your Honor that the Councel of State may know of these my most humble propositions and take such Order in it as the greatnesse of the cause requires for the safety and benefit of the Common-wealth all which I humbly submit to your Honors great wisdome and remaine My Lord your humble servant THO. VIOLET Decemb. 8. 1652. Monday the 13. of December 1652. At the Councel of State at White-hall ORDERED That Master Thomas Violet doe assist in the behalfe of the Common-wealth in the prosecution of this present Suit in the high Court of Admiralty against the ships Samson Salvador and George And that hee doe repaire to Doctor Walker Advocate for the Common-wealth and acquaint him from time to time what hee hath to offer on the behalfe of the Publique in Reference to the said Ships Ex. John Thurloe Cleark of the Councel A Breviat of severall Papers delivered to Doctor Walker severall of the Committee of Forraigne affaires since tht 13. of December 1652. to the 27. of January 1652. according to an Order of the Councel of State of the 13 of December last concerning severall prize-ships and the silver and merchandize therein with a Letter to Doctor Walker the 29. of January 1652. concerning all the Premisses Dr. WALKER My service presented SIR the Bullion Money and Merchandize at present under question in the ships Sampson Salvador and George depending in the Admiralty is of so great and considerable a value and of so high concernment in president and other relation to the Common-wealth and most of it so probable to prove lawfull prize if timely and duly prosecuted and the passengers in the said ships and other witnesses I have presented to Master Bud to be examined it behoves the State as I humbly conceive not to suffer these ships to passe as many ships of great value since the warre with the Netherlands have done to the unspeakable dammage of this Nation it being no new thing for the Hollanders in time of warre to saile under the colours and names and with the cockets of Hamborough or some other of the Hanse-townes for they did it all the while they had warres with Spayne nor for the ships of the Hance-townes Ostenders and Dunkirkers to bee transporters of Dutch goods through our Seas from and to all parts of Christendome especially Spayne Nay many times the better to countenance their ship or ships shall be built in Holland and formerly sold to some friend or correspondent in Hamborough Emden Lubeck Dunkirk Ostend or the like and for the better colour called the Lion or Dove c. of som of the aforesaid places when really and actually it belongs to Holland or Zealand and for instance whereof one of the ships now in question stiles it self by the name of the Hamborough of Hamborough and is certainly known and will be proved to belong to Rotterdam and so no question will many more of the ships under arest prove to belong to some towne of Holland and the united Provinces when strictly and duly examined Nor is it any new practise for publique Ministrs of other States to make use of their function and Masters Roabe to befriend the subject of their Allies in case of the like nature of clayming Treasure and Merchandize wherein the native trade as in this may be concerned or were it not but for the advantage of salvage in such cases conived at and many times by the instructions of their superiors allowed to publique ministers as perquisites of their imployments they many times gaining more by such avenies then by their constant salaries I have often heard sir Lewis Dives say that when he lived in Spayne with his father in law the earle of Bristoll and the Lord Cottington they did doe the same for the Dutch in Spayne as is now offered for the Dutch in England And I beleeve there are some forraigne Princes agents in England at this time that understand to make their particular profit in this conjuncture of time as well if not better then eyther the earle of Bristoll or the lord Cottington did in Spayne and upon this ground and for this end it is more then probable that some publique agents appeare in this present question in the Admiralty not that eyther their Master or his subjects in all likelyhood are otherwise concerned nor he or they warranted therein but only for their particular profit Sir this is not a common cause and I see you take it so by your care you keepe your word you bid me find proofe and you will hold the ships and silver let some of the Judges talke what they please you will discharge your trust Sir the state of Spayne is rarely known to have sent or transported any bars of silver or coyne on their owne or other ships whatsoever to the prejudice of their Mint that being most absolute contrary to their lawes which makes transporting money death without the Kings originall Licence had the Merchants one they would have shewed it before now True it is often stoln away by the Dutch which is done without the Kings warrant bills of store or publique allowance and so you will finde this is and thereby the more lyable to question and upon strict examination it will be cleerely proved prize if the Dutch should cozen us of this money now they are ranting in the Downes the Commonwealth would suffer extraordinarily Therefore all persons that claime this silver I humbly conceive ought to be prest to declare specially and particularly whether he or they pretend the money or bullion or any part of it to be the King of Spaynes peculiar Treasure or his subjects and if so he or they ought to shew some speciall and authentique Warrant or Order of his or their Masters or Officers for it Registred in the ports of Spayne and also to prove that by authentique witnesses by some of his Masters subjects at the place or Port of S. Lucar or Cadiz and attested here by like originall bills from the officers of the Customes in Spayne which bills of lading correspondent and their authentique duplicats with letters of consignement suteable the Pursers bookes of entries with all the particular and respective marks agreeing with the bills of lading bills of store and letters of consignement and all the markes of the bars and bags duly Registred either for the King of Spayne or his particular subjects If they cannot spell and speake all this perfectly justly and truly at the Port of saint Lucar or Cadiz they may faile of their ends for all their confident clayming and the like might every Merchant pretender doe or fail of his Nor can the Articles of the old League supposing it to be renued and confirmed by this Common-wealth excuse the ships Sampson Salvador and George under question from a search as
INDEX For the Narrative of the Ships Sampson Salvador and George presented to the PARLAMENT Aug. 3. 1633. THomas Violet's Petition to the Parlament p. 1 2 3 4. Thomas Violet's first discoverie about the Prize-Silver 8. Decemb. 1652. Presented to my Lord Bradshaw and M. Allen p. 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12. An Order of the Council of State 13. of Decemb. 1652. p. 13. Papers delivered to Doctor Walker from p. 13. to 26. A Letter to Doctor Walker p. 26 27. A Letter to M. Vincent de Bar p. 28 29. A Letter to M. Arnold Brames p. 29 30. Thomas Violet's Affidavit p. 31 32 33. Papers of the Narrative of the proceeding about the Silver and Prizes delivered in to the Lord Whitlock and Sr William Massam beeing of the Committee of Forrein affairs p. 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45. My Letter to my Lord Bradshaw and Colonel Morley concerning Cap. Otho George's assaulting the Common-wealth's witnesses in the Streets and stabbing them p 46. My Petition to the Council of State p. 46. Referr'd to the Committee of Forrein affairs p. 37 38. My Letter to M. Jsaac Doreslaws p. 49 50. Papers I left with my Lord Bradshaw Sir James Harrington and M. Allen about the 6. of Feb. 1653. p. 53. 54. A Letter to M. Ed Watkins p. 54 55 56 57 58. A Paper to my Lord Bradshaw and others of the Council about the restoring mee to my Estate p. 59 60. The Dutch at one time before I discovered it to the Council of State did get out of the Parlament's hands since Aug. 1652. the summe of eleven hundred thousand pounds and they had cosened the State of every pennie of their monie now a Coyning in the Tower beeing near four hundred thousand pounds bad it not been for Tho. Violet p. 61. as appear's by this Narrative An account of my Estate taken away from mee by the late Parlament p. 63 64 65. Thomas Violet's Petition to the late Parlament p. 67 68. A Copie of the late King's Letter to the Lord Major and Citie of London p. 69 70. Several transactions that follow'd thereupon p. 70 71 72. Vpon the dissolving of the late Parlament I made my Addresses to Colonel Wetton and Lievtenant Colonel Joice to present my former services to the Honorable Council of Officers which accordingly they did 73. Thomas Violet's Letter to the Right Honorable General Monk Admiral of the Common-Wealth of England Apr. 27. 1653 p. 73 74 75. Tho. Violet's humble Desire and Petition to the Right Honorable Major General Desborrow Colonel Bennet and Colonel Joans May 4. 1633. p. 75 76 77 78 79 80. Tho. Violet's Letter to the Right Honorable Colonel Bennet humbly desiring him to acquaint the Council of State with the contents p. 80 81 82. Papers delivered to the Right Honorable Colonel Jones and Colonel Bennet concerning several Prize-Ships p. 83 84. seting forth it is now apparant what Spirit Rules in som Persons in the Admiraltie to the great dammage of the State p. 85. as appear's by Cap. Bishop's Letters p. 86. and that Covetousness and Self-seeking hath betray'd many of the State 's Priz-Ships Silver and goods in the Admiraltie p. 87 88. My Letter to the Right Honorable Colonel Jones and Colonel Bennet concerning the best waies for the State both for the least charge and keeping the particular account of every parcel of Silver taken out of the Sampson Salvador and George ships p 88 89 90 91 92 93. An Order of the Council of State June 10. 1653. to Tho. Violet to discover to the Council what abuses have been acted in the managing of their Prizes and their lading either Silver or Merchandize since the bringing up the State 's Prizes p. 94. Thereupon I drew the Draught of the Paper for the Parlament setting forth several abuses concerning the management of the State 's Prizes and to prevent the like for the future and to call som that have abused them to account p. 94 95 96 97 98. Several reasons which did induce mee to Print this Narrative p. 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106. AN INDEX OF Such Papers as I presented to the PARLAMENT the 15. Februarie 1652. AN Answer of the Corporation of Moniers to Peter Blondeau Tho. Violet's Letter to Mr John Benfield pag. 1 2. The Corporation of Monier's Letter to Tho. Violet p. 3. Peter Blondeau's Representation as a Warning touching several Disorders happening by monie ill-favoredly coined p. 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. Peter Blondeau's humble Memorandum for the prevention of many abuses concerning Coins and will cost no more then the ordinarie unequal Coin which is used now p. 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20. An Order of the Commitee of the Mint 14 June 1651 for a trial of making monie by the Moniers and the Frenchman p. 21. The humble Proposition of the Provest and Moniers of the Mint to Sr James Harrington Chair-man of the Committee of the Mint p. 22 23. The 8 of May 1651 the Committee ordered the Frenchman and Ramadge that worked for the English to make their triel p. 24. The Provest and Monier's answer to the objections of Peter Blondeau p. 26 27 28 29. The Provest and Moniers humbly desire a Law to bee made for the discovering and punishing all Transporters of Monie according to the Certificate of the chief Officers of the Mint 20 Decemb. 1647 p. 32 33 34. A Letter of the Provest and Moniers to Tho. Violet to desire him to Petirion in their behalf the Committee of the Mint for an allowance of eigbtic seven pounds 18s 5d for their trial with the Frenchman 37 38. The names of the Moniers and Laborers working in the Mint the 27 June 1652 p. 40 41. A Letter from Transmarine parts setting out the abuses acted on the Coins and Bullion of England p. 45. In France they have Courts of Record for the Regulating their Monies such a Court ought to bee set up in England and strict Laws made and men appointed to see them put in execution p. 49 47. A greater quantitie of English monie counterfeited and made forth of the Mint then is coined in the Tower for the last six years p. 48 till I caused the Prize-silver to bee staied in Decemb. 1652. The great mischiefs that is befallen them in Ireland by light and clipped monie som Goldsmiths and others in London and Bristow the chief autors of this mischief to have the bottom found out p. 49 Against culling and melting down of English monie p. 50. The great mischiefs several Exchanging Goldsmiths in Lombardstreet do the State p. 50. The mischiefs that com to England by the late King 's setting up several Mints at Bristow Shrewsburie York Oxford Carlile p. 52. Against the making Gold and Silver Thred in England beeing A great consumption of the Treasure p. 54. Several Orders of Parlament for passing the Act against Transporters of Gold and Silver p. 55 56 57 and proceedings of the