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A58824 Children of Beliall, or, The rebells wherein these three questions are discussed : I. whether God or the people be the author and efficient of monarchie? II. whether the King be singulis major, but universis minor? III. whether it be lawfull for subjects to beare armes or to contribute for the maintenance of a warre against the King? T. S.; Scott, Thomas, 1580?-1626.; Swadlin, Thomas, 1600-1670. 1647 (1647) Wing S2082; ESTC R8516 17,999 28

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to lay before your face some of those fearefull judgements which have befallen some men that have borne Armes against their Kings as fearefull examples for them who now contribute for the maintenance of such warres And first for the objections I meet but with two that carrie any seeming validitie with them many more there are As 1. The peoples rescuing Jonathan from Saul 2. Elisha's shutting the doore and holding fast the messenger that came from King Joram 3. Jebues killing that King Joram 4. Ahikams defending the Prophet from the tyrany of King Jehoiakim 5. The withstanding of Vzziah the King by Azariah the Priest 6. The Deposing of Athaliah the Queene But they are all frivolous and want weight Et eâdem facilitate repelluntur quâ proponuntur The first that carries any shew with it as I conceive is Davids taking up Armes against King Saul and hence the Rebells argue thus David the Subject tooke up Armes against Saul the King and was not rebuked for it either by Divines Lawyers or States-men many of his fellow-Subjects tooke up armes with him to the number of 600. and very likely many more contributed to the maintenance of that Army nor yet were they reprehended by Divinity Law or Pollicie and therefore Subjects may in some cases take up Armes and contribute to the maintenance of a Warre against their King if he be an oppressour of their Properties Liberties or Religion And to this colourable objection it is answered the allegation is false false and absurd both false because David was so farre from taking up these Armes against King Saul that he continually fled from him and never fought with him yea so farre from fighting with King Saul he was that when God had delivered him two several times into his hands once at the Edge hill of Hackilah and once in the wildernesse of Eugedi he durst not himselfe nor would hee suffer any man else to stretch forth his hand against King Saul and for this onely reason Because he was the Lords annointed false therefore And absurd too to imagine that David should raise or entertaine 600. men to fight against King Saul who never went without 3000. men at his heeles Impar congressus and very unlearnedly is David with his 600. men urged as an example or argument to justifie disloyalty Nor will that addition helpe it viz. That King David was 40000. strong for he was not so strong till after Sauls death as appeares in the story But admit it for truth that David was 40000. strong in the dayes of Saul yet this is so farre from being an argument to justifie Rebellion or taking up Armes against the King as that it doth altogether condemne it for notwithstanding so great strength yet David never pursued Saul never let flie any murthering arrowes dart ston● at or against King Saul but still fled from him and to put him out of all such feares and jealousies hee got himselfe with all his Forces out of his Kingdome and begged a place for his habitation of Achish King of Gath. Let all our rebells follow David in the whole example and wee shall both allow this quotation and also commend their imitation yea and pray they may have so many followers that there may not bee one Rebell left to lift up his hand against King Charles the Lords Annointed Object 2 The second objection of any colourable strength is that of Jeroboam from whence it is thus argued Rehoboam the son of Solomon refused to ease the people of their burthens and therefore the people tooke up Armes and set up Jeroboam to be King over them and this was so farre from being a sinne that the Text sayes It was from the Lord and therefore Subjects may in some cases beare Armes against their King It was answered The Scripture here sets downe Rei gesta veritatem non facti aequitatem and hereupon sayes Saint Austin Quia factum legimus non ideo faciendum credimus s●ctando enim exemplum violimus praeceptum nor can wee any more free our selves from the breach of the fift Commandement if wee take up Armes against our King upon this example then wee can from the breach of the eight Commandement if wee plunder and robbe our neighbours upon the example of the Israelites spoyling the Egyptians True Jeroboam was King and that was from the Lord but by permission onely not appointment and God in that permission at once punished Solomons Idolatry and Rehoboams follie but notwithstanding this that act of the people in revolting from Rehoboam was Rebellion and so called by God himselfe in two severall places and God punished this Rebellion of theirs so fearefully that he first gave them up to Idolatry and afterwards drove them out into Captivity and this is commonly the reward of Rebells First they turne Idolaters or what is tantomount irreligious let any one say what Religion the Rebells are of and so are hated by God and afterwards are made slaves and so are hated by men That we may never fall into the one or the other either Idolatry or Captivitie Almightie God keepe us from Rebellion Amen The Scripture affords not one more colourable example to justifie the taking up of Arms against the King and therefore the Rebells of this age borrow one from our owne Country Object 3 Richard the second was deposed by Parliament and therefore a King of England may be resisted I answer it Infandum scelerate jubet renovare pudorem If the Rebells were not past all shame they would never have remembred this Factum since it is without all Aequum and to this day remaines the blemish of our Nation and this very act brought such miseries upon this Kingdome that untill two Kings one Prince ten Dukes two Marquesses 21. Earls 27. Lords 2. Viscounts one Lord Prior one Judge 139. Knights 421. Esquires Gentlemen of a vast number and 100000. Common people were slaine in these Civill Warres England never saw happy dayes This repetition hath rethorique enough to stirre you up to sorrow I say no more of it therefore but that we may againe see peace and happinesse in our dayes God put a period to them that beare Armes against King Charles Amen For it is unlawfull as appeares 2. by Scripture I will name but two instead of two hundred The first is that of Solomons whose precept is That we keepe the Kings Commandement id est Whatsoever he commands so it be not against the word of God The reason of this precept is double 1. In regard of conscience Because of the Oath of God we have sworne to it and we have called God to witnesse to the truth of our intention and endeavour to performe this Oath and accordingly we may expect God● rewarder or a revenger The second reason is in regard of power For where the word of a King is there is power q. d. For a while the word of a King