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A14827 A decacordon of ten quodlibeticall questions concerning religion and state wherein the authour framing himfelfe [sic] a quilibet to euery quodlibet, decides an hundred crosse interrogatorie doubts, about the generall contentions betwixt the seminarie priests and Iesuits at this present. Watson, William, 1559?-1603. 1602 (1602) STC 25123; ESTC S119542 424,791 390

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in other countries as in Spaine constrained to carie their meat with them otherwise to fast for three or foure daies space In Scotland but poore lodging God wot and little better then Spaine affoordeth In Fraunce Flaunders not that ciuill order for bed or boord as England yeeldeth and in all other nations compare their diet their lodging their intertaine with the English and certainly you shall finde a stately difference no where to be in all this realme vnlesse vpon the wasts or borders and scant there but you shal haue lodging and intertaine sit for any noble or state within ten miles of that place where euer it be you are in yea the common Innes on Londō way through Watlingstreete or the fower forced waies on euery side east west north and south being sit furnished to giue better intertaine to any prince in Christendome then most nobles are in other nations Therefore respecting worldly pompe and pleasure happie were the Iesuits faction but vnhappy all others besides if they might once bring this florishing English kingdom to be a defamed Spanish prouince had euer beene noted in former ages betwixt the soueraignes and subiects of this land And that howsoeuer some princes had tyrannized ouer some fewe stumbling blocks that stoode in their way as impediments to their quiet raigne at least in their conceite and other priuate persons had proued traitors rebels yet in general you shal not find that euer the subiects of England sought the death of their kings or that the kings did tyrannize ouer the multitude but the battell once ended were they ciuill broyles as the Barons warres and the contention for the crowne betwixt the two houses of Yorke and Lancaster c. or forraigne hostilitie as those betwixt the Empresse and king Stephen and betwixt king Iohn of England and prince Lewes of France and others Now then seeing neuer any soueraigne regnant in this land was euer holden to be of a more princely magnificall mercifull flexible sweet louing compassionate and tender inclination then her Maiestie is of to take pitty and pardon to receiue into grace and fauor and to winne the harts of subiects by lenitie and gentle meanes And againe for as much as neuer was the multitudes and subiects in generall of this land I speake it of catholikes to mine owne knowledge of many loyall harts as well as of the rest more seruiceable loyall faithfull and affectionate nor more willing to die at their princes feete or in their Soueraignes iust quarrell and cause any where then they haue beene hitherto vnder her Maiestie and are still to this present That all this notwithstanding so sore an affliction so long imprisonments so continuall searchings so many sessions assises arraignments losses of landes goods liues and all should be by lawes penall made against catholike Recusants many are mooued on both sides scil as well on the behalfe of her Maiesties mercy as of her truest subiects loyaltie to woonder at it Secondly they had read the last will testament of king William the Conqueror and what his first passage of speech was in his last passage of life to king Henry the first and duke Robert Curthoys his sonnes to wit that the English natures were noble generous and gentle in themselues fierce hot and valiant in the field louing loyall seruiceable and faithfull to their prince Alwaies prouided that their Soueraignes vsed them as children not as slaues for free borne denizens they are with enioying their Franchises and liberties they will performe more then the most on their prince and countries behalfe whereas the Normane said he againe being a proud stubborne but yet a seruile las●e people not carrying those generous mindes which the English carrie in all their actions must be curbed holden in and still kept short otherwise they will do nothing nor regard either their prince his honor or their countries weale The councell of this prudent prince caused a like respect in gouernment to be had of these two nations agreeing to their naturall dispositions of all the succeeding kings and Queenes that euer hitherto haue raigned in this land no nation vnder heauen bearing the porte and countenance in generall which the English carry The retinew of our English nobles is comparable in pompe and shew of honor with princes courts in forraigne countries our gentles are their nobles equals in seruice offices belonging to noble bloods generous harts Yea many knights and esquires in England are able to dispend more then sundry Lords Barons Vicounts and Earles in other countries And our Frankelings Gentlemen vntriall or substantiall Yeomen may be compared with the greatest Gentles in other nations as their fellowes for intertainment either respecting the multitude of seruants seruice and attendance giuen to guests at their table or in their chamber or the great good cheere with varietie of dishes and those well and clenly dressed and serued in with great and many ciuill ceremonies or conueniences either of lodgings within or walks without their houses or other commodities attendant on pompe and port that either may yeeld content delight or recreation to their friends yea in sundry farmers houses in England you shall finde better intertainment then the most part of ordinary Nobles in most kingdomes of the world is able to affoord This then being so their liberties and immunities being so many their loyaltie so firme their seruice so faithfull their education and bringing vp so free their inheritance freehold demeasnes and rents so great and extraordinary duly considered And aswell the high wisedome of her Maiestie on the one side as the free education of her subiects on the other side well weighed especially in that an English nature euen in the meanest member of the bodie politicall scil in the communalty is in this respect noble free of high courage and not able to endure lingring deathes torments gusts and greefes as other people are that notwithstanding her loyall subiects as well noble as ignoble should be put to those exigents that catholiks haue a long time bin put vnto the world hath mused and admired at it Thirdly they looked backe somtime into the ages acts and raignes of Nero of Dioclesian of Commodus of Probus of Heliogabal of Maximilian the Emperor and others and read the histories and apologies of Damascen of Iustine of Athenagoras of Tertullian of Epiphanius of Eusebius and others wherein they found sundry reasons and motiues as they thought not a litle to mooue these heathen Emperors to lenitie mercy which bookes and apologies often tooke effect as written to that end but not as father Parsons Philopater or father Creswels Scribe or father Southwels Epistle to her Maiestie are written alwaies in accusing or reproouing some one or many or all her highnes nobles and ciuill magistrates a very indiscreete part in them how true soeuer the reports had beene our frownd on state considered and that we were to seeke the fauor of all not to exasperate
And yet again vnderhand vpon this ground of gaining time he laboureth continually for the setting vp now of this man and now of that woman furnishing of euery one with such bald stuffe as he hath to make them beleeue they haue matter sufficient to proue that the right of the Crowne belongeth vnto them For notwithstanding all his faire weather to Spaine yet for winning of time he hath still bene practising from time to time to haue raised vp others whilest the Spaniard was a breathing to haue gotten the Kingdom if he could and so to haue plucked that morsell out of King Philip and his daughters iawes nor caring who nor of what race nor of what nation soeuer that would step in for the Kingdome so he were forsooth a Catholike O good Lord yea a Catholike he must be so her Maiestie were deposed he careth not by whom but yet must make shew that it must be by aduancing some Catholike otherwise he could haue no colour of wishing for it and much lesse any meanes either to exasperate her Maiestie and the present State against Catholikes or yet to stirre vp Catholikes with desire to redeeme themselues out of the heauie persecutions laid vpō them For as he dealt first by his Agents with the Earle of Derby and yet the said Earle was no Catholike so at an other time he writ a discourse sent it into England and it caused to be published to many of the best Catholikes here which was that he would wish and did by those presents aduise them when the commoditie serued that they should make an election of some principal Noble and at last with much ado came out this word Catholike to be their King And all this was but a point of dalliance to gaine time withall And still when no pretender nor people wil be so madde as to follow his designements then hath he euer his recourse to the King of Spaine and at this time insisteth vpon the Infanta whose title though in his Appendix falsly fathered vpon Cardinall Allane he so approueth in conceit as not onely he is bold to call all men fooles malecontent Atheists and fautors of heretikes that labour or wish or but think that any other can haue right being known an heretike and no hope of reconciling them as he saith but besides though Catholikes they all were yet by moth-eaten records found out in an old wall God knowes when where or by whom he will exclude al King Henry the seuenths issue marrie yet alwaies prouided that if the Infanta faile his expectation as I pray God her Grace may faile it then will he be left free and in the mean while also debarred from following of none that will first take armes against our Soueraigne Lady and Queene And thus the case is cleare in answer to the interrogatorie that absolutely the Iesuits seeke the conuersion of no one of the bloud Royall but conditionally onely and for winning of time they seeke for the conuersion of now one and then another as may for the time make most for their purpose But they neuer as you may easily gather by the premises seeke to haue all Catholikes because that would make a generall opposition against them and be an occasion to thrust them quite out of the land So as to conclude this vaine vaunt of their religious zeale perfection and I know not what is nothing else but an elenchiall cloake to couer their pride ambition and trecherous aspires THE IX ARTICLE WHether then in that case intend they absolutely the aduancement of those conditionally conuerted by them or onely legatiuely or as subordinate vnder any verbi gratia as to be Viceroyes or matched to some Alien or home-borne subiects Viceroyes vnder the Spanish or Austrian Monarch THE ANSWER THey intend it only conditionally subordinately and legatiuely vnder another For it were no pollicie by their principles to haue any one absolute Monarch or Soueraigne in esse ouer all England to rule ouer them too no more then it were to haue had an Archpriest that should haue gouerned and haue bene head ouer the Iesuits as well as the seculars Therefore as they got such a fellow for the nonce to be Archpriest as both they might gouerne as they list themselues and make him fare like a Turke tinker or madde man at their pleasure to torment poore soules the ignorant deuout laitie with scruples the wiser sort with infamous libels schedules gallings letters and messages of slaunders and all both men and women cleargie and laitie with threats thunderings and feares that wold not obey a paltrey Iesuite and to be readie to crouch bow and kneele at an inch a nod or a frowne to these new Pharises so of very like qualitie condition and order must be their Viceroy and his gouernement For all this banding on the Archpriests behalf was only you see those vile patches hypocrisie vnder pretence of a legatiue and subordinate power and authoritie vnder his Holinesse whom they most abusiuely impudently and in the intended platforme scoffingly make the maske cloud and cloake vnder which they hide the neuer heard of more impietie And like a company of swaggerers ruffians or bragging braggats of Toledo they take vpon them to defend the Archpriest in all his actions vnder colour of obedience with ô I will yea that I will stand to death in defence of this due obedience to the See of his Holinesse for to defend him say they is to defend the Pope himselfe which might carie some sense if they acknowledged him also to be their superior But seeing they acknowledge no such matter nay quite contrarie that he stands at their deuotion and is but like an Ape a Parrot or a Vice in a play to prate what is prompted or suggested vnto him or like an axe a saw a sword or other dead instrument that moues and workes all things intentione rationalis agentis for he hath no wit nor discretion to do any thing as it seemeth but as their Prouinciall instructs him therefore what is this else to say vz. whosoeuer is disobedient to the Archpriest is disobedient to the Pope then to maintaine that whosoeuer is not obedient to a Iesuite in any thing reus est of disobedience vnto the Pope in all things for he that offends in one offends in all And so by consequent in this subordinate authoritie these corollaries follow one vpon another in this manner the Archpriest must rule all other Priests the Iesuites must rule the Archpriest the Pope must appoint whom and as they list the disobedience to the partie appointed must be holden for a contempt of his Holinesse the action goeth vnder the name of Schisme and irregularitie the Court of Oyer and terminer must be in the Low countries vnder Archduke Albert the Commissioners Iurie and Iudges must be the Iesuites the apeale to the Pope from them must be excommunication suspension and losse of all faculties and authoritie and so Parsons as summus Pontifex