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A81692 A defence and vindication of the right of tithes, against sundry late scandalous pamphlets: shewing, the lawfullnesse of them, and the just remedy in law for them, as well in London as elsewhere. / Penned by a friend to the Church of England, and a lover of truth and peace. A Friend to the Church of England, and a Lover of Truth and Peace.; Downame, John, d. 1652,; Nomophilos Philotolis. 1646 (1646) Wing D2074; Thomason E339_7; ESTC R1318 21,705 42

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appeasing of the said strife then newly grown submit themselves to stand to such Order and Decree upon compromise touching the paiment of Tithes oblations and other duties within the said City and liberties of London as persons whom they had mutually chosen for the appeasing of the said strife being the greatest Lords and Officers of Justice then in the Kingdom should make and ordain viz. Tho. Cranmer Archbishop of Canterbury the Lord Wryothsly Lord Chancellour of England Thomas Duke of Norfolke Lord Treasurer of England Sir William Pawlet Lord Sr John President of the Councell John Lord Russell Lord Privy Seal Edward Earl of Hertford Lord great Chamberlain of England John Vicount Lisle high Admirall of England Sr Richard Lister Chief Justice of England Sr Edward Mountague Chief Justice of the Common Bench and Sr Roger Cholmely Chief Justice of the Eschequer by which Statute it was enacted that what Order should be made or decreed and concluded by the said Archbishop Lords and Knights or any six of them before the sixth of March then next following concerning the paiment of Tithes oblations and other duties within the said City and liberties of the same and enrolled in the Kings high Court of Chancery of Record should be as an Act of Parliament and should binde all Citizens and Inhabitants of London and all Vicars Parsons and Curates of the said City and their successours for ever And that every person denying to pay Tithes or other duties contrary to the said Decree so to be made and enrolled should by the commandment of the Lord Major of London and in his default by the Lord Chancellour of England be committed to prison there to remain till such time as he or they should have agreed with the Curate or Curates for his or their Tithes as by the said Statute may more appear eight of which ten persons made their Decree accordingly the 24. day of February in the year 1545. Thomas Duke of Norfolke and Sr Edward Moumague were only left out which Decree I affirme to be enrolled in the Court of Chancery and a true Copy of that enrolled Decree is at this day printed with the Statute of 37 Hen. 8. And I make no doubt but the City of London hath likewise an exemplification of that inrolled Decree under the broad Seal And though Mr John Claydon by Mr Norburies direction searching in the Chappel of the Rolls could not finde it doth it follow therefore that an other Clerke cannot finde it Or if it cannot at this day be found doth it follow in the negative that never any such Decree was enrolled How many printed Statutes have we at this day by which the Judges of the Realm do adjudge cases in Law of which the originall Records cannot at this day be found and the like hath been of this printed Decree for these hundred years without reference to the Record in Chancery But admitting there was never at all any such enrolled Decree will it therefore follow or will any Lawyer affirm that then there is no remedy for Tythes in London doth not the former Decree of Archbishop Cranmer and the Lord Chancellour Audley then take place For that Decree is not repealed by the Statute of 37 Hen. 8. by any words in that Law but was to continue in force till the Decree upon arbitrement and compromise was made if this later was never made then that former Decree continues still and if that former Decree was extinct and gone to which the Provisoes in the Statutes of 27 Hen. 8. and 32 Hen. 8. do only refer then Tithes in London are due and paiable as formerly by the Ecclesiasticall Law so that quacunque via data there is a ready and certain remedy for the recovery of the Tithes of Houses in London So weak and feeble are those weapons which are lifted up against the force strength of truth which I hope I have cleerly layed open in the point of Tithes both for the Right and for the Remedy even to the Pamphleters themselves unlesse they will caecutire ante solem as the Proverb is And therefore they begin to shift their weapons and in stead of arguments against the Statute of 37 Hen. 8. and the Decree of Tithes upon it they slander down-right that very Parliament of 37 Hen. 8. I abhor to do them the least wrong and therefore I will quote the very words of one of their champion Pamphlets like another Goliah of Gath called The Inditement of Tithes By the many scandals and errours but of one passage in that book you may easily judge what to thinke of the truth of all the rest contained in that Pamphlet The words to the Lord Major among other reasons and grounds against Tithes are these May it please your Lordship to take into consideration what an over-ruling hand King Henry the eighth and his Privy Councel did bear over the Parliament at that time which as it appeared in other things so especially in this of Tithes in Anno 37 of his reign prevailing so far as to induce that Parliament to delegate their power in a matter of so great concernment to the then Archbishop and other Lords and Knights Enacting that whatsoever they should decree therein should binde at the Citizens for ever an unheard of strain of Parliament to confirm with reverence we speak it they know not what and which to this day hath had no other confirmation In which Decree we pray your Lordship to observe the ignorance and superstition of that age that followed the steps of their erroneous predecessours both in Episcopacy and Tithes without comparing them to the word of God also the unequall dealing of those entrusted providing that great mens dwelling houses should be free from Tithes whereby it may appear this Decree or Law for Tithes if it deserve to be so called is not so valid or reasonable as it is generally conceived and however ought not to be pleaded or stand in force against the word and minde of God In which words you may observe these scandals and untruths First Where the Lord Major is desired to consider what an over-ruling hand King Henry the eighth and his Privy Councel did bear over the Parliament at that time which as it appeareth in other things so especially in this of Tithes in Anno 37 of his reigne c. There are no lesse then these three slanders First of the person of King Henry the eighth who did nothing in this businesse of Tithes but as a tender father to the Citizens of London who loved him and he them not as an overbearing Prince for it appears plainly by that Statute that it was an Act of grace in him the words are these To the intent to have a full peace and perfect end between the said parties their heirs and successours touching the said Tithes oblations and other duties for ever Be it Enacted c. Secondly of his actions making him in this matter of Tithes and in other things to