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A91991 The Lord Loudouns speech to the English commissioners at Edenburgh, with the treaty between the Grand Committee of Scotland, and the commissioners from the Parliament of England. Severall papers delivered to the estates, and the answers returned back to the English commissioners. Also orders from the Kirk to all ministers in Edenburgh, and parts adjacent, and instructions for their humiliation. And the Scots commissioners papers concerning the King, the Parliament of England, and the army. March 1. 1647. Imprimatur Gil. Mabbot. Rosse, William.; Loudoun, John Campbell, Earl of, 1598-1663. 1648 (1648) Wing R1989; Thomason E430_1; ESTC R206069 3,108 10

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THE LORD LOVDOVNS SPEECH TO THE English Commissioners at Edenburgh WITH The Treaty between the Grand Committee of Scotland and the Commissioners from the Parliament of ENGLAND SEVERALL Papers delivered to the Estates and the answers returned back to the English Commissioners ALSO Orders from the Kirk to all the Ministers in Edenburgh and parts adjacent and Instructions for their Humiliation And the Scots Commissioners Papers concerning the KING the Parliament of England and the ARMY March 1. 1647. Imprimatur Gil. Mabbot Printed at London by Robert Ibbitson in Smithfield neere the Queens-head Tavern 1648. SEVERALL Papers delivered to the Estates and the Answers returned back to the English Commissioners Right Honourable THE grand Committee of the Estates of Scotland met and sate downe on Tuesday Feb. 15. 1647 And the Lord Chancellor Loudonne with the rest of the Commissioners went on in making their reports to them declaring what they offered to the King what answer they had from him at Hampton-Court and what Papers they had dilivered into the Parliament of England Something concerning the City of London and severall passages about all of them The grand Committee of the Kirke sat that day also Wednesday Feb. 16. The Scots Commissioners went on in their reports of the English negotiation And a Committee was appointed to draw up Instructions for the Lord Chancellour to receive and report the addresses of the English Commissioners which was the lesse hastened because all the English Commissioners were not come to Edenburgh The Lord Chanellor protested to the Committee of Estates that he had and would to his uttermost labour to make good the interest of the Kingdome of Scotland in what trust hee was reposed by them The Grand Committee of the Kirke appointed the next Lords day to be a publique Humiliation in all the Churches in Edenburgh and parts adjacent and appointed a Committee to draw up a Declaration of the causes thereof Thursday Feb. 17. The Commissioners of the Kingdome of Scotland gave account to the Estates concerning the businesse of the Kings going to the Island of Weight as also the addresses to Him there and some overtures between the Parliament and them about it Divers English Malignants here for here are good store of them in this City were very mery that day some of them were foxed before night and many healths were drunke to King Charles by them but they did not meet altogether with their expectation Sir Marmaduke Langdale and Colonell Layton and divers others that were Officers under the King are here but not very flush of money and not many friends their meetings are most among themselves and though fauned on by a few yet laughed and jeared at by most They would faine stirre up the minds of the people to rise against England for the King but have no great influence Here is like to bee a great contest because of many factions and when the end will be God knowes The Grand Committee of Estates were moved that the English Commissioners might be sent to and for that purpose the Lord Chancellours Instructions brought in and passed The Estates being advertised that there were foure of the English Commissioners then come viz. the Earle of Nottingam Mr. Ashurst Colonell Birch and Mr. Robert Goodwin whereupon the Committee were appointed to bring in the Instructions the next day Friday Feb. 18. The Lord Chancellour Londone was dispatched and had his Instructions for going to the English Commissioners to receive their addresses the next day The substance of Instructions were To repaire to the Earle of Nottingam and the rest the next day from the Estates and to receive such addresses as they wer authorized unto from both Houses of the Parliament of England to communicate to the Committee of Estates of the Kingdome of Scotland The Marquis of Arguile made an excellent speech before the Estates moving to peace and amity declaring how the Lord hath blessed the two Kingdomes joyning in his cause and moving that all may labour to strengthen that unity between both Kingdomes Instructions were given from the Commissioners of the Kirke to the members of the City of Edenburgh and parts adjacent concerning the publique humiliation to bee on the Lords day following That the Lord should be pleased to stay the Plague lately broken forth in and about the City that the Lord would direct the Estats and enable them to maintain the Covenant That the Lord would purge out all Sectaries out of the Kingdome of Scotland And that the Lord will settle them in peace c. On Saturday Feb. 19. The Lord Chancellour came to the English Commissioners The Earle of Nottingham Mr. Robert Goodwin Mr. Ashurst and Colonell Birch being at their Quarters in an Inne for no house is yet assigned to them nor I do not know whether any will at all And his Lordship made aspeech after a short complement of salute to them A Speech made by the Lord Loudone Chancellor of Scotland to the English Commissioners at Edenburgh February 19. 1647. My Lord I am commanded by the Convention of the Estates of this Kingdome to waite upon your Lordships to know if you have any addresses to make unto them from the Parliament of England which if you have they desire you to communicate them unto mee that I may give the Committee an account thereof The English Commissioners told them that they had addresses to make to them from the Parliament of England The Lord Chancellour demanded by what authority they came The English Commissioners shewed him what gave satisfaction in that particular also For ought I finde the English Commissioners are not heartily welcome to Scotland but they carry themselves faire in outward civilities onely they doe not provide a place sutable to their receptions at Worcester House in the Strand when they alwayes come to London The Lordsday Feb. 20. Was a day of publique humiliation at Edenburgh and the parts adjacent Mr. Marshall when he was here before was intreated to preach by many of the Scots Clergie but now hee is not desired to come into any of their Pulpits hee askes not nor doe they offer only he Preacheth before the English Commissioners and many come to heare him The Scots Ministers thundred in their Pulpits against Sectaries and Covenant-breakers c. But I doe not heare that any of them speake any thing about the King either one way or other Malignants interpret them to include the King as being one branch of the Covenant but this is sub-intelligitur I pray God compose all our differences that wee may be cordiall and love sincerely The City is very full it is said seldome hath been seen the like But me thinkes I could not find the Churches so full Many honest men were much displeased at the carriages of some English travellers that are here that might finde better imployment at home Yester day the Committee of Estates chose Committees who are to consider of the Papers according to Instructions so that ther cannot be much expected from hence untill the Parliament sit about March the sixt next Our Commissioners are not received in that capasity by the Estates as was expected When the Parliament sits here the great question will be whether they will condescend for an Army to passe into the Kingdome of England The Scots are yet quiet and there is no appearance of any considerable visible force acting or levying only what the imaginations of the Cavaliers doth produce who are somewhat high in the South part of Scotland and speake broad words The cheifest matters which have passed betweene the Committee of Estates of Scotland and the Commissioners from the Parliament of England are to this effect The English Commissioners communicated Papers to the Scots advertizing that they were sent from the Parliament of England to cleare them of labours and indeavours for continuance of peace betweene the Nations and to take off misrepresentations desiring that they may be heard in such things as shall be objected against their proceedings that so there may be continued a right understanding between the Nations They received a Paper backe from the Scots of their order for the Chancellor to receive what they had to present The Commissioners shewed their letters of credence from the Houses of Parliament to the Parliament of Scotland a Paper was sent them backe that the Parliament was since the date of the said letters of credence risen The Commissioners then sent in another Paper concerning their Instructions from both houses of Parliament to treate with the Committee of the Estates of Scotland which having passed both Houses is of power equivalent as an Ordinance This Answer is now under debate by the Grand Committee of Estates where it was declared by divers of the Members that it would be a breach both of the Covenant and Treaty to refuse a Treaty with the English Commissioners seeing that they are appointed by authority of both Houses You in England may suppose delay but need to feare no breach from hence to ingage new warres God send an happy peace So prays Edenburgh 22. of Feb. 1647. Your Humble Servant WILL. ROSSE FINIS