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A80048 Judges judged out of their own mouthes or the question resolved by Magna charta, &c. Who have been Englands enemies, kings seducers, and peoples destroyers, from Hen. 3. to Hen. 8. and before and since. Stated by Sr. Edvvard Coke, Knt. late L. Chief Justice of England. Expostulated, and put to the vote of the people, by J. Jones, Gent. Whereunto is added eight observable points of law, executable by justices of peace. Jones, J., Gent.; Coke, Edward, Sir, 1552-1634.; England. Magna Charta. 1650 (1650) Wing C4938; Thomason E1414_1; ESTC R13507 46,191 120

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JUDGES JUDGED out of their own mouthes OR The QUESTION Resolved by MAGNA CHARTA c. Who have been Englands Enemies Kings Seducers and Peoples Destroyers from Hen. 3. to Hen. 8. and before and since Stated by Sr. EDVVARD COKE Kn ● late L. Chief Justice of England Expostulated and put to the Vote of the People by J. JONES Gent. Whereunto is added Eight Observable Points of Law Executable by Justices of Peace Abusum ego non usum forensem damne Ex legibus illis quae non in tempus aliquod sea perpetuâ utilitatis causâ in aeternum latae sunt null abrogari debet nisi quam aut u sus ceärguit aut status aliquis Reipublica inutilem fecit Tit. Liv. lib. 4. dec 4. LONDON Printed by W. Bently and are to be sold by E. Dod and N. Ekins at the Gun in Ivy-Lane MDCL To the Right HONOURABLE HONOURABLE Right WORSHIPFULL And Well-beloved the COMMONS and PEOPLE of England Universally BEcause Magna Char. Printed in English An. 1564. and bound up with other Statutes at large too Voluminous and costly for the generality to read or buy doth yield less profit than hath been long necessary I have presumed at the instance of some to Dedicate this Treatise to you all as it concerneth the good of all that be or would be good the hurt of none that have left any unhurt wherein you shall find so many Chap. of Mag. Char. Confir Char. Art super Char. and other Statutes at large corroborating the same and the L. C. Exposition thereupon with some Expostulations and Queres of mine own as I thought requisite or convenient for these times The rest of the Charter concerning the Church yet unsetled or the Kings Tenures otherways disposed of I have omitted as useless desiring that thus much may prove useful to all undertakers of Reformation as well Martial as Civil Whose Servant to my power I shall ever be and continue with due faithfulness and humility Jo. Jones The Great CHARTER of the LIBERTIES of ENGLAND Granted to the People of the same By King HENRY the third And accorded between him and them in diverse full Parliaments as followeth viz. HENRY by the Grace of God King of England Lord of Ireland Duke of Normandie and Guyen and Earl of Angeow To all Arch-Bishops Bishops Abbots Priors Earls Barons Sheriffs Provosts Officers And to all Bailiffs and our faithfull Subjects which shall see this present Charter greeting Know ye that We to the honour of Almightie God and for the salvation of the souls of our Progenitours and Successours Kings of England to the advancement of holy church and amendment of our Realm of England of Our meer free will have given and granted to all Arch-Bishops Bishops Abbots Priors Earls Barons and to all Free-men of this Realm of England for evermore First We have granted to God and by this present Charter have confirmed for Vs Cap. 1. Liberties and our Heirs for evermore That the church of England shall be free and shall have all her whole rights and liberties inviolable We have granted also and given to all Free-men of our Realm for Vs and Our Heirs for evermore these Liberties under-written to have and to hold to them and to their heirs of Vs and Our heirs for evermore Here be four rehearsals saith the Lord Coke of four notable causes of the making this Law Lord Coke upon Mag. Chart. Fol. 1. First for the honour of God Secondly for the health of the Kings soul Thirdly For the exaltation of the church Fourthly for the amendment of the Kingdom And all granted to all subjects and their heirs from the King and his heirs for evermore That the great Charter might live and take effect in all successions of ages for ever Expost and Quer. The last of these causes which the L. C. in his Preamble calleth the ends for which this Charter was made being for the amendment of the Realm was saith the L. C. upon the first chapter of confirmatio Chart. fol. 529. to amend great mischiefs and inconveniences which oppressed the whole Realm before the making of both Charters viz. This and the Charter of the Forrest which saith the L. C. in his Preface were declarative Acts of the old Common-Law of the Land and no introductives of any new Law If the mischiefs and inconveniencies of the Realm were great before the said Acts were made to declare the Laws of the land which formerly the lawyers reserved to themselves till then undeclared Were there not greater since those Acts were made and the Lawes thereby declared and since the accord of King and People to keep the same inviolable when and as often as they were violated by Kings and their Counsel learned in the Laws As hereafter shall appear We Cap. 8. Debt Debtors Suerties nor Our Bailiffs shall not seise any lands or rent for any debt as long as the present goods and chattels of the debtors do suffice to pay the debt and the debtor himself be ready to satisfie Therefore shall neither the pledges of the debtor be distrained as long as the principle debtor is sufficient for payment of the debt and if the principal debtor fail in paiment of the debt haveing nought wherewith to pay or will not where he is able enough Then the pledges shall answer for the debt and if they will they shall have the lands and rents of the debtor until they be satisfied of that which they before paid for him except that the debtor can shew himself to be acquitted against the suerties We saith the Lord Coke spoken in the politique capacitie of a King L. Coke upon M. C. fol. 19. extendeth to his Successours And by Bailiffs are meant Sheriffs who write Baliva mea c. And by the words shall not seiz is expressed the Kings Grace who by the Common-Law had Execution against his Debtors bodies lands and goods And by the Statute of 33. Hen. 8. cap. 9. The Sheriff is to inquire c. and to extend all Lands Goods Chattels c. and 〈◊〉 take and imprison the Bodies as by that Stat. appeareth and as the daily practice sheweth Expost and Quer. If We extend to Successors even to King Hen. 8. Why not longer If Magna Charta was to live for ever Why not hitherto If the King of his Grace remitted by this Act the execution which the Common Law gave him before against his Debtors Bodies Lands and Goods in case of having nought wherewith to pay through decay of their estates by unavoidable necessities then the Kings Debtors obtained of the Kings Grace as much Liberty for their bodies as this King gave to all his free subjects by the 29th of this Act viz. No Free man c. And for his Estate as much as the proverb saith Where nothing is to be bad the King looseth his due If the King did not remit so much by this Act then did he gain thereby more
Authority of Parliament but of many Parliaments such Parliaments of such Infallibility as were those wherein Magna Charta and all its Confirmations were made and grounded upon the Common-Laws of England which as all Lawyers profess were grounded upon the Law of God the Word of God the God of Christians Christ Jesus the God of Truth even Truth it self to put them in Execution If not To what ends are Parliaments or the Laws of God and man to such as dare not or will not if and when they may Doth not the Statute of Ano. 1o. P. M. cap. 12o. which made it Fellony for twelve English persons or above to assemble together of purpose to break any point of the Laws of England imply it to be Warrantable for all the People of England to Assemble together to cause the Laws of England made by all their consents to be observed and to punish not onely the Breakers but also the onely begetters and causers of all the Breakers and Breaches of all the Laws of England the onely assumers of the knowledg thereof and concealers of that knowledge from the People so that none but themselves can knowingly break the Laws because they will not let them know them Lastly If Excommunications be nothing formidable to Lawyers to make them care whether they incur or shun them but as their profit guids them Let us see what the L. Coke saith fol. 536. concerning the conclusion of this Act and the Seals that were put to it and the Oaths of the King and Parliament then and for ever for the Ratification of it omitted in the Stat. at large in Print but to be seen in the Tower Rot. Parl. 7o. Hen. 4th no. 60. begining with the word Simile c. Note saith he the Solemnitie of this Act in that all the Arch-Bishops Bishops Earls Berons c. did put their Seals thereunto A rare example which was done for the obliging of them the more firmly to the observation of this Act which concerned the Laws Liberties and Free-Customs of their Countrey and for their greater Obligation for the due Observation of this Act they took a voluntary Corporal Oath And let us note Expost Q. that if the Judgement of God and this Parliament hath made the Prelates sensible of their slighting of their Predecessors Excommunications seals and oaths by what justice or excuses shall Lawyers avoid the same Judgement And though the Ignorance of Mag. Charta and the Law which Lawyers have begotten caused by concealing the same from them as aforesaid can be no safe Plea for any with God or man without prayers for Remission and manifestation of Repentance yet is Ignorance a better subject for mercy than knowing wilfulness and the people while ignorant of Mag. Charta are more capable of grace for the breaking of it than when they know it if they put not the Iudgements of it in Execution against the causers of their offence Now I shall let you see that there were two Excommunications denounced against the breakers of Mag. Charta according to this Statute as followeth The Year of our Lord One thousand two hundred fiftie three Excomunic prim the third of May in the great Hall of the Ring at Westminster in the presence and by the assent of the Lord Henry by the Grace of God King of England and the Lord Richard Earl of Cornwall his brother Roger Bigor Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk Marshal of England Humohrey Earl of Herford Henry Earl of Oxford John Earl Warren and other estates of the Realm of England We Boniface by the mercie of God Arch-bishop of Canterbury Primate of all England T. of London H. of Ely S. of Worcester E. of Lincoln W. of Norwich P. of Herford W. of Salisbury W. of Durham R. of Excester M. of Carlile W. of Bath E. of Rochester T. of S. Davids Bishops apparrelled in Pontificals with tapers burning against the breakers of the Churches Liberties and of the Liberties or other Customs of the Realm of England and namely of those which are contained in the Charter of the Common Liberties of England Charter of the Forrest have denounced the sentence of Excommunication in this Form By the Authoritie of Almightie God the Father the Son and the holy Ghost and of the glorious Mother of God and perpetual Virgin Mary of the blessed Apostles Peter and Paul and of all Apostles and of all Martyrs of blessed Edward King of England and of all the Saints of heaven We Excommunicate accurse and from the benefits of our holy Mother the Church we sequester all those that hereafter willingly and maliciously deprive or spoil the Church of her Right and all those that by any craft or wiliness do violate break diminish or change the Churches liberties and Free-customs contained in the Charters of the Common liberties and of the Forrest granted by our Lord the King to Arch bishops Bishops and other Prelates of England And likewise to the Earls Barons Knights and other Freeholders of the Realm and all that secretly or openly by deed word or counsel do make Statutes or observe them being made or that bring in Customs or keep them being brought in against the said libertis or any of them the Writers Lawmakers Counsellors and the Executors of them and all those that shall presume to Judge against them All and every which Persons before mentioned that willingly shall commit any thing of the Premises let them well know That they incur the foresaid sentence Ipso sacto first upon the deed done And those that commit ought ignorantly and be admonished except they Reform themselves within 15. daies after the time of the Admonition and make full satisfaction for that they have done at the will of the Ordinary shall be from that time forth wrapped in the same sentence And with the same sentence we burthen all those that presume to perturb the peace of our Sovereign Lord the King and of the Realm To the perpetual memory of which thing We the aforesaid Prelates have put Our Seals to these Presents What though the Form of this Excommunication be Popish Expost and Quer. Is not the Substance the maintenance of Englands Liberties And is not that all which the meaning of this Law requireth If Judges and Prelates as well since King Hen. 8. as before have neglected their Duties in Itterating the charge of their Functions the first in pronoucing Sentence and the other in Executing it doth not once pronoucing once executing of such one Sentence of Law as concerneth all Ages Sexes and Conditions of People to learn and remember no less for the Preservation of their lives and livelihoods than Scriptures for their Salvation take away the plea of Ignorance from all men Shall any man commit that sin which he knoweth to be once so Declared by the Law and think to avoid punishment because not often so Declared by Law-Professours Are not all men bound to search the Scriptures and