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A60117 Cases in Parliament, resolved and adjudged, upon petitions, and writs of error Shower, Bartholomew, Sir, 1658-1701. 1698 (1698) Wing S3650; ESTC R562 237,959 239

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the Sentence given by the Constable and Marshal in the Suit before them concerning a Coat of Arms Rot. Claus 12 Rich. 2. m. 4. Appeal by Bond vers Singleton 't is in a Cause of Arms in our Court before our Constable and Marshal wherein Sentence was given by them 1 pars Pat. 17 Rich. 2. m. 12. Thus it appears by a Commission for the Execution of the Office of Constable of England Committimus vobis officium hujusmodi Constabularii ad querelam Thome Moor in hac parte una cum Edmundo de Mortimore Mareschallo Anglie audiendum secunda pars Patent ' 48 Edw. 3. m. 20. in dorso As also by a Claim at the Coronation of H. 5. before Beauchamp Earl of Warwick then Lord Steward John Mowbray Earl Marshal Son to the then Duke of Norfolk claimed under a Grant in 20th of Rich. 2. of the Office of Earl Marshal of England to hold Court with the Constable and to hold Pleas before them and Copies of these Precedents were said to have been ready in Court Further to prove the joynt Authority were cited several of our Old Books 48 Edw. 3. fol. 3. in a Case of Debt upon an Indenture by which P. was retained by the Defendant with two Squires of Arms for the War in France Belknapp said of such Matter this Court cannot have conusance but 't is triable before the Constable and Marshal In the Case of Pountney and Bourney 13 Hen. 4.4 the Court of King's Bench call it the Court of the Constable and Marshal And in 37 Hen. 6.3 upon another occasion Prisot said this Matter belongs to the Constable and Marshal And Coke 4 Inst 123. says that they are both Judges of the Court and that the Constable sometimes gave Sentence is no Argument that the Marshal was no Judge with him it only proves him the Chief who in most Courts doth usually give the Rule Nor is the Earl Marshal's receiving Writs from the Constable to execute his Commands any Argument that he sits there only as a Ministerial Officer and not as a Judge for he may be both as in many Corporations Mayors are Judges of the Court and yet have the Custody of their Goals too and so have the Sheriffs of London their Compters tho' they strictly are Judges of their several Courts 2. During the Vacancy of the Earl Marshal's Office the Constable alone had the Judicature as in 11 Hen. 7. on Holy-rood-day the Earl of Darby being then Constable of England sate and gave Judgment alone in a Cause between Sir Thomas Ashton and Sir Piers Leigh upon a Coat of Arms but this needs no Proof since 't is contended on the other side that the Court doth belong only to the Constable 3. 'T was argued that the Earl Marshal hath set alone and given Judgment and to prove that it was said this Court was held when there was no Constable before Thomas Howard Duke of Norfolk Lord High Treasurer and Earl Marshal of England who Died 16 Hen. VIII and next after him before Charles Brandon Duke of Suffolk then Earl Marshal who Died 37 Hen. VIII after him the Court was held and Sentences given by Thomas Howard Duke of Norfolk who Died in 1512. and after him in the 30 Eliz. the Earl of Essex sat as Earl Marshal and heard and determined Causes judicially and the chief Judge sat then as Assistant with him in Court and then after the Death of the Earl of Essex it was in Commission to my Lord Treasurer Burleigh and others and then the great Oase of Sir F. Mitchell was heard and determined at which several Judges assisted and the Sentence of degradation was executed upon him 26. April 1621. and then was Cited the Case of Pool and Redhead 12 Jac. 1.1 Roll's Rep. 87. where 't was held that the proper remedy for Fees of Knighthood was to sue to the Earl Marshal and Coke says in the same Case the Common-Law does not give remedy for precedency but it belongs to the Earl Marshal And since that in Parker's Case which was 20 Car. II. Syd 353. the Earl Marshal was agreed to have the absolute determination of matters of Honour in the Court of Chivalry as much as the Chancellor hath in matters of Equity And the Error on the other side was occasioned by not distinguishing between the Ancient Jurisdiction of this great Court at the Common-Law and the Jurisdiction given to the Constable and Marshal under those names by Statute for the latter cannot be executed by one alone and that distinction answers the Authority in 1 Inst 74. which grounded the mistake that there is no Court of Chivalry because there 's no Constable whereas the reason why in Sir Francis Drake's Case the not constituting of a Constable silenced the Appeal was from the 1 Hen. IV. Cap. 14. which orders all Appeals of Murder committed beyond Sea to be before the Constable and Marshal by name But the Ancient Jurisdiction of this Court by prescription wherein both the Constable and Marshal were Judges severally or together and which each of them did and could hold alone remains still as much in the Earl Marshal alone as it ever was in him and the Constable Then it was argued that no Prohibition lay to this Court because none had ever been granted and yet greater occasions then now can be pretended by reason of the large Jurisdiction which this Court did in Ancient time exercise many Petitions were frequently preferred in Parliament Complaining of the Incroachments of this Court in Edw. I. Edw. III. Rich. II. Hen. IV. and Hen. VIth's time as appears in 4 Inst. 125. 2 Hen. IV. num 79. and 99. 1 Roll's Abridg. 527. and yet no Prohibition granted or moved for which according to Littleton's Text is a very strong Argument that it doth not lie The Statute of 13 Rich. II. 2. is an Argument against it because after several Complaints of the Incroachments of this Court another remedy is given which had been needless if this had been legal nay it shews the Opinion of the Parliament that there was no other way of relief and soon after the making of this Statute in the same Reign two Privy Seals were sued upon it in the Case of Poultney and Bourney 13 Hen. IV. 4. 5. Besides this might be grounded on the Antiquity and greatness of this Court for as to the subject matter of it 't is by Prescription a Court for determining matters of Honour to preserve the distinction of degrees and quality of which no other Courts have Jurisdiction and the right and property in Honours and Arms is as necessary to be preserved in a Civil Government as that in Lands or Goods Then 't was urged that this Court hath Jurisdiction even of Capital Offences its extent is large 't is throughout the Realm even in Counties Palatine even beyond the Seas its manner of proceeding is different in a Summary way by Petition its trial of Fact may be by Duel as is 4