the Sentence given by the Constable and Marshal in the Suit before them concerning a Coat of Arms Rot. Claus 12 Rich. 2. m. 4. Appeal by Bond vers Singleton 't is in a Cause of Arms in our Court before our Constable and Marshal wherein Sentence was given by them 1 pars Pat. 17 Rich. 2. m. 12. Thus it appears by a Commission for the Execution of the Office of Constable of England Committimus vobis officium hujusmodi Constabularii ad querelam Thome Moor in hac parte una cum Edmundo de Mortimore Mareschallo Anglie audiendum secunda pars Patent ' 48 Edw. 3. m. 20. in dorso As also by a Claim at the Coronation of H. 5. before Beauchamp Earl of Warwick then Lord Steward John Mowbray Earl Marshal Son to the then Duke of Norfolk claimed under a Grant in 20th of Rich. 2. of the Office of Earl Marshal of England to hold Court with the Constable and to hold Pleas before them and Copies of these Precedents were said to have been ready in Court Further to prove the joynt Authority were cited several of our Old Books 48 Edw. 3. fol. 3. in a Case of Debt upon an Indenture by which P. was retained by the Defendant with two Squires of Arms for the War in France Belknapp said of such Matter this Court cannot have conusance but 't is triable before the Constable and Marshal In the Case of Pountney and Bourney 13 Hen. 4.4 the Court of King's Bench call it the Court of the Constable and Marshal And in 37 Hen. 6.3 upon another occasion Prisot said this Matter belongs to the Constable and Marshal And Coke 4 Inst 123. says that they are both Judges of the Court and that the Constable sometimes gave Sentence is no Argument that the Marshal was no Judge with him it only proves him the Chief who in most Courts doth usually give the Rule Nor is the Earl Marshal's receiving Writs from the Constable to execute his Commands any Argument that he sits there only as a Ministerial Officer and not as a Judge for he may be both as in many Corporations Mayors are Judges of the Court and yet have the Custody of their Goals too and so have the Sheriffs of London their Compters tho' they strictly are Judges of their several Courts 2. During the Vacancy of the Earl Marshal's Office the Constable alone had the Judicature as in 11 Hen. 7. on Holy-rood-day the Earl of Darby being then Constable of England sate and gave Judgment alone in a Cause between Sir Thomas Ashton and Sir Piers Leigh upon a Coat of Arms but this needs no Proof since 't is contended on the other side that the Court doth belong only to the Constable 3. 'T was argued that the Earl Marshal hath set alone and given Judgment and to prove that it was said this Court was held when there was no Constable before Thomas Howard Duke of Norfolk Lord High Treasurer and Earl Marshal of England who Died 16 Hen. VIII and next after him before Charles Brandon Duke of Suffolk then Earl Marshal who Died 37 Hen. VIII after him the Court was held and Sentences given by Thomas Howard Duke of Norfolk who Died in 1512. and after him in the 30 Eliz. the Earl of Essex sat as Earl Marshal and heard and determined Causes judicially and the chief Judge sat then as Assistant with him in Court and then after the Death of the Earl of Essex it was in Commission to my Lord Treasurer Burleigh and others and then the great Oase of Sir F. Mitchell was heard and determined at which several Judges assisted and the Sentence of degradation was executed upon him 26. April 1621. and then was Cited the Case of Pool and Redhead 12 Jac. 1.1 Roll's Rep. 87. where 't was held that the proper remedy for Fees of Knighthood was to sue to the Earl Marshal and Coke says in the same Case the Common-Law does not give remedy for precedency but it belongs to the Earl Marshal And since that in Parker's Case which was 20 Car. II. Syd 353. the Earl Marshal was agreed to have the absolute determination of matters of Honour in the Court of Chivalry as much as the Chancellor hath in matters of Equity And the Error on the other side was occasioned by not distinguishing between the Ancient Jurisdiction of this great Court at the Common-Law and the Jurisdiction given to the Constable and Marshal under those names by Statute for the latter cannot be executed by one alone and that distinction answers the Authority in 1 Inst 74. which grounded the mistake that there is no Court of Chivalry because there 's no Constable whereas the reason why in Sir Francis Drake's Case the not constituting of a Constable silenced the Appeal was from the 1 Hen. IV. Cap. 14. which orders all Appeals of Murder committed beyond Sea to be before the Constable and Marshal by name But the Ancient Jurisdiction of this Court by prescription wherein both the Constable and Marshal were Judges severally or together and which each of them did and could hold alone remains still as much in the Earl Marshal alone as it ever was in him and the Constable Then it was argued that no Prohibition lay to this Court because none had ever been granted and yet greater occasions then now can be pretended by reason of the large Jurisdiction which this Court did in Ancient time exercise many Petitions were frequently preferred in Parliament Complaining of the Incroachments of this Court in Edw. I. Edw. III. Rich. II. Hen. IV. and Hen. VIth's time as appears in 4 Inst. 125. 2 Hen. IV. num 79. and 99. 1 Roll's Abridg. 527. and yet no Prohibition granted or moved for which according to Littleton's Text is a very strong Argument that it doth not lie The Statute of 13 Rich. II. 2. is an Argument against it because after several Complaints of the Incroachments of this Court another remedy is given which had been needless if this had been legal nay it shews the Opinion of the Parliament that there was no other way of relief and soon after the making of this Statute in the same Reign two Privy Seals were sued upon it in the Case of Poultney and Bourney 13 Hen. IV. 4. 5. Besides this might be grounded on the Antiquity and greatness of this Court for as to the subject matter of it 't is by Prescription a Court for determining matters of Honour to preserve the distinction of degrees and quality of which no other Courts have Jurisdiction and the right and property in Honours and Arms is as necessary to be preserved in a Civil Government as that in Lands or Goods Then 't was urged that this Court hath Jurisdiction even of Capital Offences its extent is large 't is throughout the Realm even in Counties Palatine even beyond the Seas its manner of proceeding is different in a Summary way by Petition its trial of Fact may be by Duel as is 4
command them in Ireland to do Execution there St. John vers Cummin Yelv. 118 119. 4 Inst 72. If Writ be abated in C. B. and Error brought in B. R. and the Judgment be reversed shall proceed in B. R. and 1 Rolls 774. to the same effect Green vers Cole 2 Saund. 256. The Judges Commissioners gave the new Judgment 'T is true in Dyer 343. the opinion was that he was only restored to his Action and then Writs of Error were not so frequent The Judgment may be erroneous for the Defendant and yet no reason to give a Judgment for the Plaintiff as in Slocomb's Case 1 Cro. 442. the Court gave a new Judgment for the Defendant therefore it properly belongs to the Court which doth examine the Error to give the new Judgment the Record is removed as Fitzh Nat. Brev. 18 19. on false Judgment in ancient Demesne v. 38 Hen. 6.30 and Griffin's Case in Error on a quod ei deforceat in 2 Saunders 29 30. new Judgment given here In the Case of Robinson and Wolley in 3 Keeble 821. Ejectment Special Verdict Judgment reversed in the Exchequer Chamber and they could never get Judgment here the Court of Exchequer Chamber not having given it and in the principal Case after several Motions in the Court of King's Bench the Remittitur not being entred there a Motion was made in Parliament upon this Matter and a new Judgment was added to the Reversal that the Plaintiff should recover c. Dr. William Oldis Plaintiff Versus Charles Donmille Defendant WRit of Error to Reverse a Judgment in the Court of Exchequer affirmed upon a Writ of Error before the Lord Chancellor c. The Case upon the Record was thus Donmille declares in the Exchequer in placito transgr ' contempt ' c. for a Prosecution contra regiam prohibit ' and sets forth Magna Charta that nullus liber homo c. that the Plaintiff is a Freeman of this Kingdom and ought to enjoy the free Customs thereof c. that the Defendant not being ignorant of the Premisses but designing to vex and aggrieve the Plaintiff did in Curia militari Henrici Ducis Norfolk ' coram ipso Henrico Com' Mareschal ' Exhibit certain Articles against the Plaintiff c. that Sir Henry St. George Clarencieux King at Arms was and is King at Arms for the Southern Eastern and Western Parts of the Kingdom viz. from the River of Trent versus Austrum and that the Conusance Correction and Disposition of Arms and Coats of Arms and ordering of Funeral Pomps time out of mind did belong to him within that Province and that the Plaintiff having notice thereof did without any Licence in that behalf had and obtained paint and cause to be painted Arms and Escutcheons and caused them to be fixed to Herses that he provided and lent Velvet Palls for Funerals that he painted divers Arms for one Berkstead who had no right to their use at the Funeral and did lend a Pall for that Funeral and paint Arms for Elizabeth Godfrey and marshalled the Funeral and the like for Sprignall and that he had publickly hanging out at his Balcony Escutcheons painted and Coaches and Herses and other Publick Processions of Funerals to entice People to come to his House and Shop for Arms c. That the Defendant compelled the Plaintiff to appear and answer the Premisses c. The Defendant in propria persona sua venit dicit That the Court of the Constable and Marshal of England is an ancient Court time out of mind and accustomed to be held before the Constable of England and the Earl Marshal of England for the time being or before the Constable only when the Office of Earl Marshal is vacant or before the Earl Marshal only when the Office of Constable is vacant which Court hath time out of mind had Conusance of all Pleas and Causes concerning Arms Escutcheons Genealogies and Funerals within this Realm and that no other Person hath ever intermeddled in those Pleas or Affairs nor had or claimed Jurisdiction thereof and that the Suit complained of by the Plaintiff was prosecuted in the said ancient Court of and for Causes concerning Arms Escutcheons and Funerals That by the 13 Rich. 2. 't was enacted that if any Person should complain of any Plea begun before the Constable and Marshal which might be tried by the Common Law he should have a Privy Seal without difficulty to be directed to the Constable and Marshal to Supersede that Plea till discussed by the King's Counsel if it belongs to that Court or to the Common Law prout per Statut ' ill ' apparet and that the said Court time out of mind hath been tant ' honoris celsitudinis that it was never prohibited from holding any Pleas in the same Court aliter vel alio modo quam juxta formam Statut ' praed ' Et hoc parat ' est verificare unde non intendit quod Curia hic placitum praed ' ulterius cognoscere velit aut debeat c. The Plaintiff demurs and the Defendant joyns From the Exchequer Court this was adjourned propter difficultatem into the Exchequer Chamber and afterwards by advice of the Judges there the Court gave Judgment for the Plaintiff which was affirmed by the Chancellor and Treasurer c. And now it was argued on the behalf of the Plaintiff in the Writ of Error that this Judgment was erroneous and fit to be reversed And first to maintain the Court as set forth 't was insisted on 1. That when there was a Constable and Marshal the Marshal had equal Power of Judicature with the Constable as each Judge hath in other Courts 2. That the Constable had in that Court power of Judicature alone when there was no Marshal And 3. That the Marshal had the like when there was no Constable That they had both equal power of Judicature appeared by all their Proceedings by their Libels or Bills in the Case of John Keightley Esq against Stephen Scroop The Libel is In the Name of God Amen Before you my Lords the Constable and Marshal of England in your Court of Chivalry and prays that the said Stephen by their Sentence definitive may be punisht 1 pars Pat. 2 Hen. 4. m. 7. And the same Stephen libelled against Keightley to the thrice Honourable Lords the Constable and Marshal of England So the Libels were directed to both and both sate judicially The same appears by the Sentence or Judgment given in that Court Bulmer libelled against Bertram Vsau coram Constabulario Mareschallo qui duellum inter partes allocaverunt assignaverunt locum tempus Rot. Vascor ' 9 H. 4. m. 14. It doth likewise appear to be so by the Appeals from their Judgments to the King they are both sent to to return the Rolls of their Judgments Rot. Claus 20 Edw. 1. m. 4. In the Appeal brought by Sir Robert Grovesnor against Richard Scroop 't is upon
of the greatest Members of the House Selden Hollis Maynard Palmer Hide c. that the Earl Marshal can make no Court without the Constable and that the Earl Marshal's Court is a grievance Rushworth 2 Vol. 1056. Nalson's 1 Vol. 778. Spelman in his Glossary verbo Mareschallus seems to say 't was officium primo Servile and that he was a meer Servant to the Constable and gives much such another account of it as Cambden doth and pag. 403. is an Abstract or rather Transcript of all that is in the Red Book in the Exchequer about the nature of this Office and there 't is said that if the King be in War then the Constable and Marshal shall hold Pleas and the Marshal shall have the Amerciaments and Forefeitures of all those who do break the Commandments of the Constable and Marshal and then it was further alledged by the Councel for the Defendant in the Writ of Error that they knew of no Statute Record or Ancient Book of Law or History that ever mentioned the Earl Marshal alone as having Power to hold a Court by himself So that taking it as a Court held before an incompetent Judge a Prohibition ought to go and the Party ought not to be put to his Action after he has undergone imprisonment and paid his Fine since it hath the semblance of a Court and pretends to act as such and if it be a Court before the Earl Marshal alone in case it exceeds the Jurisdiction proper to it a Prohibition lies either by force of the Common-Law which states the boundaries and limits of that Jurisdiction or by force of the Statute of 8 Rich. 2. which is not repealed by the subsequent Law in that Reign and if such Prohibition do lie in any Case that here was cause for it the subject matter of the Articles being only a wrong if any to a private Officer who had his proper remedy at the Common-Law and therefore it was prayed that the Judgment should be affirmed and it was affirmed Smith Vx ' Versus Dean and Chapter of Paul 's London and Lewis Rugle APpeal from a Decree of Dismission made by the Lord Jeffreys the Bill was to compel the Dean and Chapter as Lord of the Mannor to receive a Petition in nature of a Writ of false Judgment for Reversing a common recovery suffered in the Mannor Court in 1652. whereby a Remainder in Tail under which the Plaintiff claimed was barred suggesting several Errors in the proceeding therein And that the said Lord might be commanded to examine the same and do Right thereupon To this Bill the Defendant Rugle demurred and the Dean and Chapter by Answer insisted That 't was the first Attempt of this kind and of dangerous consequence and therefore conceived it not fit to proceed on the said Petition unless compelled thereto by course of Law That Rugle being the Person concerned in interest to contest the sufficiency of the Common-recovery they hoped the Court would hear his defence and determine therein before any Judgment were given against them and that they were only Lords of the Mannor and ready to Obey c. and prayed that their rights might be preserved This demurrer was heard and ordered to stand And now it was insisted on by the Council with the Appellant that this was the only Remedy which they had that no Writ of Error or false Judgment lies for Reversing of a recovery or Judgment obtained in a Copyhold Court that the only method was a Bill or Petition to the Lord in nature of a Writ of false Judgment which of common right he ought to receive and to cause Errors and defects in such recovery or Judgment to be examined and for this were Cited Moore 68. Owen 63. Fits N. B. 12. 1 Inst 60. 4 Rep. 30. is such a Record mentioned to have been seen by Fenner where the Lord upon Petition to him had for certain Errors in the proceedings Reversed such Judgment given in his own Court 1 Roll's Abridg. 600. Kitchin 80. 1 Roll's Abridg. 539. Lanc. 98. Edward's Case Hill 8. Jac. 1. by all which it appears that this is an allowed and the only remedy Then it was argued That in all Cases where any Party having a Right to any Freehold Estate is barred by Judgment Recovery or Fine such Party of common Right may have a Writ of Error if the same be in a Court of Record and a Writ of false Judgment if in a Court Baron or County Court and reverse such Judgment Recovery or Fine for Error or Defect and there can be no reason assigned why a Copyholder especially considering the great quantity of Land of that Tenure in England should be without remedy when a false Judgment is given and the rather for that in Real Actions as this was the Proceedings in the Lord's Courts are according to those in Westminster-hall and now tho' a Common Recovery be a Common Assurance yet it was never pretended that a Writ of Error to Reverse it was refused upon that pretence and if the Lord of a Mannor deny to do his Duty the Chancery hath such a Superiour Jurisdiction as to enjoyn him thereto 'T is the Business of Equity to see that Right be done to all Suitors in Copyhold Courts Fitsh Abridg. Subpena 21. 2 Cro. 368. 2 Bulstr. 336. 1 Rolls Abridg. 373. If an Erroneous Judgment be given in such Court of a common Person 's in an Action in the Nature of a Formedon a Bill may be in Chancery in nature of a false Judgment to Reverse it and Lanc. 38. Tanfield says that he was of Counsel in the Case of Patteshall and that it was so decreed which is much more then what is here contended for and tho' Common Recoveries are favoured and have been supported by several Acts of Parliament yet no Parliament ever thought fit to deprive the Parties bound by such Recoveries of the benefit of a Writ of Error On the other side 't was urged in defence of the Dismission That the Person who suffered this Recovery had a power over the Estate that she might both by Law and Conscience upon a Recovery dispose of it as she should think fit that she hath suffered a Recovery and that it was suffered according to the custom of the Mannor tho' not according to the form of those suffered in Westminster-hall That the suffering of Recoveries in any Court and the Methods of proceeding in them are rather notional then real things and in the Common Law Courts they are taken notice of not as Adversary Suits but as Common Assurances so that even there few Mistakes are deemed so great but what are remedied by the Statute of Jeofailes or will be amended by the Assistance of the Court And if it be so in the Courts at Westminster where the Proceedings are more solemn and the Judges are Persons of Learning and Sagacity how much rather ought this to stand which was suffered in 1652. during the Times of
without the assent of the Dominion Superiour And 2. Judgments or Decrees might be there made or given to the disadvantage or of lessening that Superiority which cannot be reasonable or to make the Superiority to be only in the King not in the Crown of England as King Jac. 1. would have had it and consulted Selden upon the point Now though the Writ of Error be only mentioned yet the same reason holds to both and the true cause why we have not so many Ancient precedents of Equity Cases as of Law ones is for that in Ancient time the Equity Courts were not so high meddled with few matters and in a Summary way but since their Authority is so advanced and their Jurisdiction so enlarged that most questions of property are become determinable there and almost every suit begins or ends with them to the entire subversion of the Old Common-Law It is and must now be reasonable to have the Examination of their final Sentences in the Parliament of England as well as of the other Suppose non-residence in Ireland should be pretended a Forfeiture of the Estate to the next remainder Man or to the King Can it be safe for to intrust them with a conclusive Opinion in this matter When Calais was in our hands Writs of Error lay thither 21 Hen. 7. fol. 3. As to the pretence that the orders of this House cannot be executed there 't is very vain for if the King's Bench Command their Judgments to be executed there this House may order theirs and in like manner as they do to the Chancery here In 15 Rich. 2. numb 17. in the Abbot of St. Osithe's Case the Lords here made an Order and charged the Lord Chancellor that he see it performed and this hath been constant practice It hath been imagined That the Jurisdiction of this House in matters of this kind is dated from the 21 Jac. 1. as to the proceedings in Chancery but that is not now to be disputed for the Commons in Parliament Assembled did agree it to be the Right of this House in the Case of Skinner and the East-India Company and in the Book about it supposed to be written by that Noble Lord the Lord Hollis 105. 't is said that where the King 's Sovereigntydoth not reach the Jurisdiction of this House cannot the contrary is implied that where the King of England's Sovereignty doth extend the Jurisdiction of this House doth so too and no Man will affirm That Ireland is out of or beyond the limits of the Sovereignty of the English Crown And as to the exercise of this Judicature by the Lords here nothing can be stronger for it then the 1 Hen. 4. numb 79. So 't is in the Record though in Cotton's Abridg 't is 80. the Commons declare that all Judgments Appertain to the King and Lords and not to them Skinner's Case 199 200. 4 Inst 349 353 354. It was further argued That Protection commands a due Subjection and that these people who insisted upon this independency had forgot the English Treasure and Bloud which had been spent for their preservation That they are part of England and subject to its Laws appears from the common Case of an incumbency here being made void by acceptance of a Bishoprick in that Colony Besides that in Ancient time the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury was Primate of Ireland and had the Confirmation and Consecration of Bishops there Cambden's Britt pag. 735. and 765. 4 Inst 360. then 't was urged that the Question now was whether it were a Dominion inferiour or equal to and independant upon the Realm of England That the constant practice had been for the Lords here to examine the Decrees in their Court of Chancery that the refusing of this Appeal would shake all those Cases thus determined that every Appeal-here from their Equity Sentences which have been very many was an Argument against the Order of their Lords and for the receiving of this Appeal here That this thing hath been acknowledged even by the Rebels there for in Sir John Temple's History of the first Progress of the Irish Rebellion written 1641. pag. 141. amongst the several propositions made by the Irish then in a general Rebellion these two are mentioned 1. That by several Acts of Parliament to be respectively passed in England and Ireland it should be declared that the Parliament of Ireland had no subordination to the Parliament of England but should have supreme Jurisdiction in that Kingdom as Absolute as the Parliament of England here hath 2. That the Act of 10 Hen. 7. called Poyning's Act and all other Acts expounding or explaining that Law should be Repealed both which with their other dangerous propositions were justly rejected however it shews their Opinion that at that time the Law was or was taken and deemed to be against them in this point and there is as much reason for keeping the final Judicature here as there is for maintaining the Superiority and Obligatory Power over them in the legislature 'T was farther urged That the with holding the Irish Lords from having the like Jurisdiction in their Parliament as the Lords in England have in Judging upon Appeals and Writs of Error was absolutely necessary for the preserving of the Possessions of the English in Ireland for those of that Country must be suppos'd to incline to their own interest and cannot be suppos'd so much inclined to love and affect the English amongst them And that this Power of Judging here is Co-eval with the very Constitution of the Government 'T was further urged That their Precedents returned did or concern the point in Question except the two or three Cases in 1661 and 1662. and two Appeals lately in 1695. that their Case of the Prior of Lauthony in 8 Hen. 6. Prynnes Animadversions 313 314 was against them the Prior having removed a Judgment in the King 's Bench in Ireland into the Parliament there which affirmed it did bring a Writ of Error in the King 's Bench in England and they refused to meddle with it the reason was because the Writ of Error before the Lords there did not lie and that it ought to have come hither immediately and all the rest of their Quotations in their Printed Case either prove nothing at all or too much for they are against the allowance of Writs of Error in the King 's Bench in England and against the Legislature of England's being able to oblige the people of Ireland both which have been approved by constant practice and therefore it was prayed that the Appeal here might be allowed and the Order of the Irish Lords might be vacated On the other side it was argued from 1 Inst 141. Prynne's Animadversions 286. and 4 Inst 12. that their Parliaments had the same Authority there in respect of making Laws for that Country as the Parliaments have for England that they have ever since 10 Hen. 7. Re-enacted there such subsequent Acts of England as they thought
upon the Livings becoming void by Cession viz. by the Incumbents being made a Bishop but never a word of the King's Title in all the Case or any such Prerogative as is now contended for And in Owen's Rep. 144. Walmesly cites a President which he had seen in Edward the Second's time adjudged that the King had no such Prerogative and all that was said for it was eight or nine Presidents in Tradition or History of a Patron being complemented out of his Right but not one Law-Book for it Coke 4 Inst 356 357. who wrote and published much he never mentions this Prerogative but says that the Law is otherwise for upon his Observation on a Record of 24 Edw. 3. Rot. 25. coram Rege Cornub ' Admittitur Episcopus Exon ' pro fine 200 merc ' pro contemptu in non admittendo presentatum Regis ad Ecclesiam de Southwel pro quo contempt ' omnia temporalia Seisita fuerunt in manus Regis tunc temporis ante finem fact ' vacavit Archidiaconat ' Cornubiae ratione quod Incumbens Electus fuit in Archiepiscopunâ— Dublin ' in Hibernia Temporalibus Episcopi Exon ' ad tunc in manibus Regis existent per quod Dominus Rex recuperavit versus Episcopum dict' Archidiaconat ' Upon this Record he makes two Conclusions 1. Tho' Ireland be a distinct Kingdom yet 't is governed by the same Law as England in these Matters 2. That when the Arch-Deacon was by the King preferred to an Archbishoprick he had the Presentation to the Arch-deaconry in respect of the Temporalties of the Bishop of Exeter Patron of the Arch-deaconry and not by any Prerogative Here 't is observable That my Lord Coke took it that the Patronage by reason of the Temporalties gave to the King this Right and not the Prerogative Then his next Paragraph is stronger If a Bishop in England be made a Cardinal the Bishoprick becomes void and the King shall name his Successor because the Bishoprick is of his Patronage All which implies That if 't were not of his Patronage 't would be otherwise else why is that reason added Obj. But then say they The Pope's Usurpation prevailed in all those times and the Pope had it when Provisions were in use But that can be no Argument to give the Crown a Prerogative for the Pope was a Tyrant over the English Church and by the same Reason the King may claim to be above all Laws because some Judges said as Hank did in Hen. 4. quod Papa potest omnia at that rate no Act of Parliament shall bind the King because the Pope thought himself bound by no Law of ours Besides There were several of our English Monarchs and English Parliaments that boldly withstood these Usurpations and there were divers Intervals of Liberty and Freedom from that Romish Yoke and we never read of any Exercise of this Prerogative in those Intervals 'T is questioned in 41 Eliz. and in Owen's Rep. 't is said that the Pope's practise was no Authority to warrant a Prerogative for they used to do strange things and the Clergy then made his Will a Law and our English Lawyers have always complained of it Obj. There 's no ancient Books that mention Title by Lapse But 't was answered That in Caudries Case 't is fetch'd from the Reign of Edw. 3. and that is no very late Reign and Lapse is so ancient as it appears by the close Roll 21 Hen. 3. in n. 12. that the Deâ— and Chapter pretended to it during a Vacancy of a See upon an Advowson of the King 's own but it appears there by a Writ to that purpose that no Lapse per tempus semestre accrued on the King which shews that 't was old Law for the Subjects Pryn 2.481 By a Writ 8 Hen. 3. num 4. Dorso Prynne 2 Vol. 389. it appears the Archbishop of York was to present si ultra tempus sex mensium vasari contigerint and 1 Inst. 2 Inst. and all the Booksare full of it and Doctor and Student which is no new Book treats of it cap. 31. Besides that and this are different Cases there is a necessity of such a Law for the Service of the Church the King is by the Constitution intrusted with the Supreme Care of his People both for Religion and Property and if a Patron will not do it in reasonable time 't is reasonable he should lose it and the King present But to make that a similar Case they should shew that these Prerogatives were of equal duration and that there 's as much reason for the one as for the other but because the King hath preferred the Patron 's Friend therefore the King shall have it that cannot hold upon a toties quoties when the Friend is dead and three or four more of the King 's presenting for by this means the Patron may never present to his Church 2. The next Query was Whether this Commendam for above the six Months with power to take the Profits to his own use shall be a fulfilling of this turn or otherwise prevent the Operation of the Prerogative on it by this he was a plenary Incumbent after Consecration and he had the Profits to his own use He was not meerly the Ordinary's Deputy to supply the Cure during six Months but hath it in his own right and this with the King's concurrence The Prerogative could only work upon an Avoidance by Promotion and that is upon Consecration this becomes void at the expiration of therein limited T is to be considered That this is none of the old Prerogatives of the Crown which in a Competition are to be preferred before the Subject's Right it is a Prerogative not to be favourably interpreted but stricto Jure for 't was only taken up as a Papal Right and so 't is plain from 2 Rolls Abridg. 358 359. As such a Papal Right it ought to be interpreted stricto Jure even by the Pope's Law being against the Patron 's ordinary Right and so 't is nature odiose there might be cited Suares and others to this purpose Perhaps the Pope's Right was not so much allowed here as to make it clear with him in this Point for Dr. and Student cap. 36. 37. says that the Pope's Collection of Benefices vacantium in Curia was held to be within the Statute concerning Provisions viz. 25 Edw. 3. This Prerogative hath been construed stricto Jure here 1. In the Case which the Lord Chief Justice Vaughan Reports where the Crown upon the promotion of an Incumbent to the Bishoprick of Oxford and who by Dispensation retained his Living till death would have presented to the Living when it fell vold by the Incumbent the Bishop's Death it was resolved that the King's Prerogative was not to present to the next Avoidance after the Promotion but to the next Avoidance by the promotion which in that Case was none for that the Avoidance was by Death 2. In the Case my Lord Chief