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A36825 The estate of the Empire, or, An abridgement of the laws and government of Germany cast into dialogues for the greater conveniency of a young prince that was instructed therein / by Lewis Du-May ... ; translated into French by D'Alexis Esq. ... ; now faithfully rendered into English. Dumay, Louis, d. 1681. 1664 (1664) Wing D2521; ESTC R7823 173,537 384

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Spain On the other side Maximilian Duke of Bavaria son of William and of Renata of Lorraine left a son who in the year 1650. married Adelaïs daughter to Victor Amedeus Duke of Savoy and to Christina of France who is allied by consanguinity to all the greatest Kings and Princes in Christendom P. These are indeed very great Alliances G. But this is not all Frederick V. Elector Palatine in the year 1613. married Elizabeth daughter of James King of great Britain and by reason of her the House became allied to the Kings of England and Denmark Philip Lewis his brother in the year 1631. married Mary Eleonor daughter to Joachim Frederick Elector of Brandenbourg and his sister Elizabeth Charlotta was given in marriage to George William Elector of Brandenbourg July 14. 1626. Philip William Duke of Newbourg his first wife was Anne Catherine daughter to Sigismond King of Poland and John Casimir was the worthy husband of Catherine daughter to Charles and mother to Charles Gustavus King of Sweden From whence it may easily be seen that few Houses in Europe are better allied then this which besides what we have newly mentioned is of kin to the Houses of Hesse Gonzaga Bourbon Nassau Saxony Juliers Wirtemberg Rohan and many others P. Is not this Elector Palatine Charles Lewis married G. I forgot to tell you that this Prince who at least equals if he doth not go beyond all his Ancestors in Prudence and Magnani●●ty hath taken to wife Charlotta the worth daughter of the incomparable Amelia Elizabeth Landgravess of Hess which is sufficien● to say that he could not have made a bette● choice Edward this Electors brother mar●●ed Anne daughter to Charles Duke of Mant● and Neuers and Henrietta their sister dye a little after she was married to the Prince● Transylvania His other brethren and siste● are yet to marry Robert and Maurice hav● given proof of their ability and courage upo● occasions almost without number and th● Princesses Elizabeth Loüyse and Sophia hav● made skilful masters confess that the Scienc● have nothing so sublime nor Picture-drawi●● any thing so marvellous but the wit and hau● of these Ladies have been able to reach it P. I hope you will make me a long reci●● of the Genealogies of great persons and the● you will not omit these Alliances and these ●●lustrious Princes and Ladies But that it may b● done with the less trouble I shall be conte●● to hear you discourse it at your leisure Le● us pass if you please into Saxony and do 〈◊〉 the favour to tell me what you know of the●● Electoral House G. There is not any House in Europe mo●● glorious then that of Saxony It restored the honour of the Empire after the race of Charlemagne had lost its first vigour and under o●● Henry and three Otho's it confirmed the Imperial dignity unto Germany it conquered many enemies gave Princes to Savoy and if it be true that Hugh Capet was descended from this House it hath likewise furnished France with their Kings P. Do not the Kings of Denmark also come from Witikind of Saxony G. It is said that the Counts of Oldenbourg are a branch of this great Stock and it is most certain that after the death of Christopher III. the Danes would have chosen Adolph Duke of Schleswick who would not accept of the Crown in regard of his great age declaring that such an honour would be better placed upon the person of Christian Count of Oldenbourg his grandchild and heir apparent The Danes taking this counsel and admiring the generosity of him that gave it chose Christian the first of that name whose posterity Reigns at this day in Denmark Norway Schleswick Holstein Stormar and Dithmarsh P. We will take another time to speak of the Kings of France and Denmark and of the Dukes of Savoy It will be sufficient for the present to inform me when the Electoral Cap was first brought into this House into how many branches it is divided how many voices it hath in the Diets and what are its principal forces and alliances G. The Emperor Sigismond knowing the merit of Frederick the Warlike Marquiss o● Misnia and the obligation that the Empire had to his Predecessors charged Eric V. of the House of Saxon-Lawembourg for having laps●● his due time of demanding the Investiture of the Electorship which his Ancestors had possessed ever since the year 1180. and transfored the same upon the forenamed Frederick o● Twelfth-day 1423. Since that time this House hath without interruption possessed the Electoral dignity with the Dutchy of Saxony th● Marquisate of Misnia the Landgraveship o● Thuringia And by a further accumulation o● good fortune it inherited the Principality o● Henneberg nay since the last War of Bohe●● the Emperor gave the upper and lower Lusai● to Iohn George Elector of this House who di●ed the 8. of October 1656. and was interred th● 4. of February 1657. with more then Reg●●pomp there being 3500. persons in mour●ing and 24. Horses of State covered with black and the Electoral Escutcheon embroidered thereon every one of them led by two Gentlemen P. In a late discourse concerning the valiant actions of Duke Bernard Weymar it was sail that he loved not the House of Austria because it took the Electoral dignity from th●● branch G. It is true that Iohn Frederick furnamed the Magnanimous having taken arms for the liberty of Religion was deprived of his dignity by the Emperor Charles V. who took him prisoner near Wirtemberg and gave the Electorate to Maurice in the year 1547. Thus passed this dignity into another branch and the elder became younger brethren For this cause there was but little confidence and kindness between the Princes of this House But as there is no grief which is not diminished by length of time even so the bitterness between these Princes hath been sweetned and they seem to be entirely reconciled For Frederick William Duke of Altembourg took for his second wife Magdalen Sibylla daughter to Iohn George the Elector last deceased and Maurice son to the same Elector hath married Dorothy Mary daughter to William Duke Weymar eldest son of that matchless Bernard whose praises you have heard P. For so much as I perceive this House is divided into many branches G. Not counting the Kings of France and Denmark and the Dukes of Savoy who are the illustrious Ciens that sprung out of this great Tree the Electoral House of Saxony is divided into two principal branches in each whereof there have been six Electors The last of the first branch lost the Electoral dignity because he was unsuccesful in making War for the liberty of Germany against Charles V. and the first of the second branch left the Electoral Cap unto his brother and his posterity for having happily taken and born arms in favour of his Countrey against the same Emperor P. I pray make this business out a little clearer to me G. Frederick III. of that name Elector
few of them who set not a greater value upon it then upon their study P. I confess the sway of my inclination is absolutely bent to it and I could more willingly endure the pains of Hunting a whole day then of study but two hours Yet because you think it fit I will hunt as seldom as I can that I may keep the promise I made to you to follow your counsel in all things G. It is no small comfort to me to hear that you prefer my advice before your pleasure but I am sorry that you call and esteem that a Labour which is nothing but pure delight Study would be a sensual pleasure if the mind were capable of any They that have once tasted it can never take themselves off again and oftentimes it engages those who are born for action to give themselves over to contemplation in such manner that thereby they become despiseable and indeed altogether despised drawing upon themselves the point of those Lances which they have neglected and the venom of those Pens which they too kindly embrace P. As therefore all kind of studies are not proper for all kind of persons so neither is it lawful for every one to spend so much time in them as he would G. You say right for as Alexanders dog thought any creature of less strength and courage then a Lyon to be unworthy of his anger and would not vouchsafe to stir if he did not see an object equal to his valour so men ought to make choice of such studies as are proportionable to their conditions And forasmuch as by Gods Providence you are born such a one as will one day have occasion to render him an account of a Principality you must of necessity learn to govern it well without amusing your self upon knowledges more curious then useful and which would better become a Professor in Philosophy than the General of an Army P. I know that men do not use to send for Shoe-makers to make their clothes nor to Taylors to make their boots Nevertheless many Princes enter upon the Government before they have past an Apprentiship for it and take the least care of that which concerns them the most But that I may not be one of that number I conjure you to instruct me in all that I ought to know to be able to govern G. The method of good Government is not to be learnt but from the mouth or actions of Kings and Princes Therefore I beseech you to give diligent heed to all you shall read in the Books of the Kings the Chronicles and the Wisdom of Solomon in the Sacred Story in the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which James VI. King of Scotland and first of that name of England composed for the instruction of his Son in Guevara in the life of Marcus Aurelius in the Romulus Tarquin and David persecuted written by Malvezzi in the lives of Philip II. King of Spain and Henry IV. King of France and every where else where profane History takes notice of the vices and virtues of great men that so you may day by day grow to be an honester man and a more excellent Prince P. I have already read some part of that which you prescribe to me and should punctually observe this rule if I were not hindred by my ignorance in the Languages wherein they are written G. That defect would occasion many others to you and if you did not learn to understand Authors in their own Language you would recieve but little satisfaction for ordinarily translations have less grace and ornament then the Originals For which reason I have given order to your Master to use the easiest method for you and the greatest diligence he can that you may be a good Proficient in forain Languages I beseech you to second his laborious endeavours and help to make them fruitful P. Your will hath alwayes had the authority of a Law with me and I find it good for me to have learnt what you judged to be for my advantage Having therefore heard you say that Italian is easily obtainable by those that speak Latin and French I shall endeavour to get these two in perfection before I undertake the third G. I like your design and dare assure you that you will learn Italian with ease by the help of French for the knowledge of the one smooths the difficulties which occur in the other especially if one begin with French P. Which of these two do you esteem the finest Language and the most useful G. Your question doth somewhat perplex me for my part I think them both equally good and graceful but not equally useful for to know the utility of a Language it should be considered in what part of the world a man inhabits what persons he frequents and with whom he hath to do Italian is in high esteem and exceedingly useful in the Emperors Court and upon all the Coasts of the Mediterranean Sea They that trade in Asia Africk and Europe with the Turks Greeks Arabians Candians Rhodians Cyprians and other Levantine people may commodiously make use of it French is in greater vogue towards the North and is marvellously well entertained in Germany England Denmark Sweden and Poland where all the Kings Princes and Lords speak it exactly except the Emperor who neither loves the French nor their Language yet it is so much in fashion that the chiefest Italians nay even the Spaniards of his Court and all others that I have known in Germany speak it or clip it P. Then would it not be better for a German Prince to learn French perfectly and practise it continually then to amuse himself upon many Languages and become master of never a one of them G. Every man should take a just measure of his own strength and not grasp at more than he can hold But seeing you have a natural disposition to learn Languages and the honour to be a Prince which gives you the hope and almost the assurance of being employed in variety of business and in divers Countreys I lay it as a charge upon you to love French and not neglect Italian The end of the first Dialogue Dialogue II. Of the State of the Empire in general P. I Understand French indifferent well already and I think if I made a voyage through France I might easily attain to the perfection of it And therefore I earnestly entreat you to use the power and credit you have with my parents that by their good leave I may begin to travel and see what Europe affords worthy of my observation G. I know that travelling is a proper means to accomplish what you have begun but I cannot allow that you should imitate those who make it their study day and night to learn what was done at Rome 2000. years since without taking any thought to know how men live in Germany at the present They that study in such a manner are like those imprudent busie-bodies who having their eyes open to
of Brandenbourg and widow to Christopher the last King of Denmark That Prince having Reigned happily 33. years in Denmark 32. in Norway and 25. in Sweden dyed afterwards A. D. 1482. leaving two sons who succeeded him in this manner John his eldest was King of those three Kingdoms after his Father and gave his brother Frederick the moyety of his Hereditary lands Then having reigned peaceably he dyed A. D. 1513. leaving his son Christian II. to be his Successor That Prince was born A. D. 1481. and married Isabel sister to the Emperor Charles V. by whom he had Dorothy Electoress of Brandenbourg Christina Dutchess of Milan and afterwards of Lorraine and John who dyed bearing arms under the Emperor Charles his Unkle by the Mothers side in the year 1532. Christiern otherwise Christian II. forsook the way of his Father and Grandfather and became so cruel a Tyrant that the Swedes drove him out of their Countrey and placed upon the Throne Gustavus Vasc son to Erick a Swedish Knight A. D. 1523. And nine years after the Danes cast him in prison where he ended his dayes in five more P. Men seem to be of a worse condition then beasts inasmuch as Eagles do not ingender pigeons nor Lions Stags yet Heroical persons rarely beget their like The greatest men are subject to the misfortune of seeing their children unworthy to succeed them But what came to pass after the imprisonment of Christiern G. We will speak in another place of what followed in Sweden In Denmark the Nobility had an honourable memory and high esteem of the virtues of Christian I. and of Iohn wherefore instead of the Tyrant who was prisoner at Sunderbourg they placed Frederick his Unkle by the Fathers side upon the Throne who was very aged and yet he introduced the Doctrine of Luther into Denmark and his own hereditary Principalities That Frederick was the first Duke of Holstein which is held in Fee of the Empire as Schleswick is of Denmark but neither he nor his son Christian III. durst send any body to the Diets fearing they should be but ill used for having assumed the place of a brother-in-law to two Emperors P. It may be those Princes not daring to send their Deputies to the Diets lost the Rank they held there G. Frederick I. of that name King of Denmark was Duke of Holstein before he came to the Crown yet I cannot tell whether he had taken place in the Assemblies of the Empire But to pursue the discourse we have begun that Prince left two sons the elder of whom was King after him by the name of Christian III. and Adolph his younger son Duke of Holstein They had both children from whom all the Princes of this House are descended For Christian was Father to King Frederick II. and to Iohn the younger and Adolph to Iohn Adolph and to Frederick Archbishop of Bremen and Bishop of Lubeck P. I pray draw out this Genealogy a little more at length G. Frederick II. husband to Sophia daughter to Vlrick Duke of Meklebourg had one son and four daughters very worthy of your knowledge For as much as Elizabeth the eldest was married to Henry Iulius Duke of Brunswick Anne to Iames VI. King of Scotland who afterwards got all Great Britain by the death and Testament of Elizabeth Queen of England Augusta to Iohn Adolph Duke of Holstein and Hedwig to Christian II. Elector of Saxony His Son and Successor to the Crown was Christian IV. a great King both in time of peace and war That Prince who admiring the worth of Henry the Great King of France made him his pattern in every thing and had at the least as many sons as he as well Legitimate as Natural But there remains no more of the lawfully begotten then his Successor Frederick III. who hath already many children and may have more P. This King is esteemed throughout all Europe for a knowing Prince and one that sets a value upon good men Let us see the Descendents of Iohn the younger G. That Prince was even goodness it self and God blessed him exceedingly for he had 23. children by Elizabeth Dutchess of Brunswick and Agnes Hedwig Princess of Anhalt his wives Two of those Princes dyed in Hungary one at the illustrious Colledge of Tubing two departed in their infancy and four lived to be married who are fathers of many Lords either residing at Sunderbourg Nortbourg Glugsbourg and Plone or else seeking their fortune in the Wars The daughters were thus married the eldest to a Duke of Lignitz three of the youngest to three Dukes of Pomerania Anne Sabina to a Duke of Wirtemberg Eleonor Sophia to a Prince of Anhalt and Margaret to John Count of Nassau The rest dyed in their Cradle except Eleonor who is still unmarried and leads an exemplary life she is 67. years old yet very lovely for her age and worthy to be visited by Kings for she hath a marvellous way of entertaining those Princes and Ladies that do her the honour to see her And I can assure you I never saw better sweet-meats served any where then at her house nor strangers received with greater civility P. Tell me I pray a little more particularly who are the Descendents of John the younger brother to King Frederick II. G. Alexander his eldest son had six sons whereof the eldest married a Countess of Delmenhorst and at his death left one son and two daughters by her Frederick Philip and Joachim Ernest brethren to Alexander are yet living the first hath three sons and as many daughters the second hath but two sons alive five Princesses married and one to marry the third hath four Princes two whereof have command in the King of Spains service and three Princesses still maids all beautiful and witty and brought up in the School of a Father inferior to none in the Empire for prudence and of a Mother that hath but few equals in all kind of vertues P. Do not forget the Descendents of Adolph younger brother to Christian III. of that name G. Adolph had many sons that dyed young one that was Archbishop of Bremen and John Adolph his eldest married Augusta daughter to Frederick II. King of Denmark These two had issue John Bishop of Lubeck a comely and liberal Prince who dying left his son John Augustus still very young but pretty and exceeding hopeful Frederick this Bishops elder brother hath the moyety of the Dutchies of Schleswick Holstein Stormar and Dithmarsh and takes turns with the King of Denmark in the administration of Justice in having place and voice in the Assemblies of the Empire and in all other Rights of Regality This Prince great in knowledge and magnanimity hath for a partner in his bed and felicity Mary Elizabeth daughter to John George Elector of Saxony by whom he hath still living three sons and five daughters four whereof are married to John Prince of Anhalt Gustavus Adolph Duke of Meklebourg Lewis Landgrave of Darmstadt and Charles Gustavus
conclude a Peace and the Ambassadors there found themselves in a great strait how to satisfie the two principal branches of that House Each of them pretended to the Electorate the first having had possession thereof for many ages required the restitution of it and the second alledging the signal services he had done the Empire by which he merited that recompense would not consent to the Peace unless it were provided that he should still enjoy that honor In conclusion as Maximilian had many friends so Charles Lewis did not want his supports Whereupon they came to this agreement That Maximilian Duke of Bavaria should have the first Electorship to him and his posterity and an eighth place should be new-erected for Charles Lewis Prince Palatine of the Rhine upon this condition that if the Gulielmine branch hapned to fail before the Rodolphine these latter should re-enter into their ancient Electorship and the other newly created should be wholly abolished P. I do not wonder that these Princes did so earnestly desire the one to recover and the other to keep the Electorate in his Branch since it is believed that this dignity makes the possessors thereof not inferior to Kings G. The Electoral dignity is very great and they that are endued with it are in a more eminent degree then other Potentates of the Empire because they have power to make the Emperor But I do not think they may be equalled to Kings Nay I remember I have read that the last Duke of Burgundy of the blood Royal of France demanded precedence before the Electors at the Council of Basil and obtained his pretence P. I know that Duke alledging his high descent and the many Dutchies Counties and other Lordships in his possession obtained a declaration from the Council of Basil that in regard of his condition and his great Estates he should precede the Secular Electors But you also know that the Electors have taken place of Kings upon some occasions G. The King of Bohemia gives place to many others except when he is in the Diet for the Election of an Emperor and in the like case the Elector of Brandenburg hath disputed the precedence with Rodolph II. King of Hungary Nevertheless it is out of controversie that the Electoral dignity is inferior to the Royal And it may be proved by the order which the Electors themselves observe for the Elector of Bohemia when he was but Duke had the lowest place but having obtained the title of King he began to go before his Collegues only because it was not thought reasonable that a Royal person Crowned and Anointed should give way to those that were but barely Electors P. Though this dignity do not stand upon equal terms with that of Kings it is nevertheless very great but who is the chiefest among the Electors G. None of them disputes the precedencie with him of Mentz who is Dean of the Electoral Colledge appoints the day and place of the Election when the Emperor is dead or when it is necessary to choose a King of the Romans The second is the Elector of Tryer the third of Collen Thus the Ecclesiasticks take place of the Secular Princes of whom the King of Bohemia is the first the Duke of Bavaria the second the Duke of Saxony the third the Marquiss of Brandenbourg the fourth and the Count Palatine the last Notwithstanding which order I must think the Electors of the Rhine and Saxony to be above all the rest because during the vacancy of the Empire they are Vicars thereof and can do all that is in the Emperors power except giving Investiture to those that hold great Territories or Lordships in Fee of the Empire without being subject to give an account of their administration P. When is it that they choose an Emperor G. The Empire being destitute of a Head by the natural death of the Emperor by his own spontaneous demission or by his demerit when for his unworthiness he is deprived of it they proceed to the election of another P. Methinks it is very strange that they can dispossess an Emperor and much more that there should be any who would voluntarily resign their Crown G. Both the one and the other have been seen more then once and that we may not go too far back to seek for examples very remote from our time it shall be sufficient for me to tell you that Wenceslaus son to Charles IV. being become unfit for the Imperial Crown was forced to surrender it unto Robert the Elector Palatine in the year 1400. And when Charles V. had surpassed all his predecessors in merit and shown by nine voyages which he made into Germany six into Spain seven into Italy four into France ten into the Low-Countreys two into England as many into Africa and by passing the Ocean and Mediterranean Seas eleven times that nothing was impossible to a Prince of his resolution he would further manifest that he knew how to conquer himself and having called his son Philip into the Netherlands he put the Scepter of Spain with all its dependancies into his hands and by William of Nassau Prince of Orange sent the Imperial Crown to his brother who was already King of the Romans After which he retired himself to a quiet solitude in the year 1556. where he lived two more in the contemplation of heavenly joys and went to receive them the 21. of September 1558. P. It is a wonder that a Prince so inclined to honor the holy See did not resign his Scepter into the hands of the Pope G. That incomparable Monarch loved to have the See of Rome flourish but was not willing the glory thereof should be illustrated by the eclipse of the Empire He knew what he ought to the Church and what to Germany He was not ignorant that the Constitutions of Popes aim at the weakning of the Empire and the diminution of its authority but he knew also how to put a difference betwixt just and unjust And by that action he maintained the right of the Empire and yet did wrong to no body P. May a King of the Romans be chosen while the Emperor is living G. There are that think it ought not to be done because it is as much as to give occasion to one to wish the death of another Yet experience which is more to be considered then the speculative fancies of Doctors teaches us that Charles IV. Wenceslaus Maximilian I. and II. Rodolph II. Ferdinand III. and IV. were chosen in the life-time of their predecessors We have not any example that a King of the Romans hath been made against the Emperors will but I think it out of question that they who can depose an Emperor may also appoint him a Successor without his consent P. Some say that when they create a King of the Romans while the Emperor is living they set two Heads upon the Empire and two Masters over Germany G. So long as the Emperor lives the King of the