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A09109 A temperate vvard-vvord, to the turbulent and seditious VVach-word of Sir Francis Hastinges knight vvho indeuoreth to slaunder the vvhole Catholique cause, & all professors therof, both at home and abrode. Reduced into eight seueral encounters, vvith a particuler speeche directed to the Lordes of her Maiesties most honorable Councel. To vvhome the arbitriment of the vvhole is remitted. By N.D. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1599 (1599) STC 19415; ESTC S114162 126,552 136

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to our posteritie And albeit for the present there be warres and hostilitie between our nation and our prince and theirs and that especially in respect of religiō yet our trust is our prayers are cōtinually to our euerlasting God of peace that he will once finish well that controuersie to all our comfortes and benefites And in the mean space I do presume so much of the good natures and ciuilitie of most protestants in England that they alow not of such bitter and barbarous proceeding as Sir Francis Hastinges hath vsed to his owne discredit and dishonor of our nation in these malignant calumniations against so modest a prince In which respect also I haue bin somwhat the bolder to giue him his check with more freedom and feruor I pray God it may do him the good I wish or at least keep others from being deceiued by him THE REMISSION OF THE VVHOLE ANSVVER TO THE IVDGEMENT and arbitrement of the Lords of her Maiesties most honorable Councel vvith the ansvverers opinion and petition for the ending of these dissentions and controuersies ANd now right honorable hauing brought to an end so much as I thought expedient to be answered at this tyme to Sir Francis Hastinges iniurious libel none occurred more fit vnto me to haue the first sight and view and iudgement of the whole then your Lordshippes who though in the controuersie it self between him and his and vs and ours I cannot expect to haue you equall iudges nor indifferent arbiters you professing the religion you do yet in the manner of prosecution thereof I presume so much of the good partes that God hath indued your Lordshippes withall as I dare remit the arbitrement to your selues to whome if this rayling wachword had byn first presented before it was punished as in right it ought to haue byn you being by office the wachmē of that commonwealth and not Sir Francis who intrudeth himself I think verely that either it had byn wholy stopped and repressed or at least wise so moderated as it should not haue geuen the offence that it hath and will do for vnto graue men such troblesome sticklers as these are euer commonly and ought to be vngratefull and suspected and vnto wise Councelours and honorable persons such rayling and slanderous tongues are contemptible odious and to all good natures and ciuill conditioned men be they of what estate or profession soeuer such base detractions and contumelious fictions as heer you haue heard are insufferable and rather seuerely to be punished then any way to be permitted But yet so much the more in this case of ours where the iniurie is not offered only to your owne home-born subiects whome yet in all rightful quarrel your place requireth that you protect and defend but also to great and potent anoynted princes with whome you haue had and may haue again most honorable freindship heerafter and negotiation in important and weightie afaires whose honors you ought not to permit iniuriously to be violated by the passion and rage of any particuler man which cannot after make recompence with any humane abilitie that he hath though his life also should go therin for the hurt ensewing therof Diuers authors do note that the cheef flame of that furious hatred which grew to be implacable afterwardes betwixt Marius and Sylla Pompey and Caesar in the Roman commonwealth was inkindled first by certayne opprobrious speaches vttered by some followers of those Princes which yet the parties iniured interpreted to come from their patrons that bare them out and therof followed such warres murthers and other lamentable tragedies as all the world can wel remember And our English chronicles do also make mention that some reprochfull wordes cast out by King Harold agaynst Duke VVilliam of Normandy and his daughter whome he had promised to take to wyf stirred him cheefly to make that fatal armie by which he conquered England and brought all the English nation in to his subiection As also an other scof vttered by king Phillip of France against the same VVilliam now king touching his fat belly cost France full dear and many thowsand men their lyues of both sides so impacient are princes comonly of contumelyes and do easier remit and forget any other kinde of iniurie then reprocheful speaches VVherfore my first petition to your Lordships wisedome and moderation should be to restraine such turbulent spirits as those are which more of a mad and malitious kinde of wantonnes then of wit do loose their tongues with ouer much libertie against the honors of mightie Catholique princes abrode and thereby do put in aduenture to trooble the waters of common-wealthes more deeply then either themselues or others can easily calm again afterwards My next desire and humble supplication should be in the same matter but of far more moment that your Lordships by this occasion and by some fit concurrance of times and busines which at this present may seeme to offer themselues would voutsafe to enter more seriously into the consideration of matters depending between your Lordships and the Catholique parte of her Maiesties subiects who for many yeares haue had a hard conceyt and heauie hand born ouer them and are brought to tearmes of extreme affliction and that your Lordships as fathers of your common-wealth would resolue at length to be mediators vnto her Maiestie contemning the dangerous and seditious eggings of vnquiet spirits to further extremitie for some more gentle milde merciful course to be taken with them Vnto which resolution me thinketh that many circumstances might iustly moue your Lordships wisdomes which though by the same wisdome you wil better consider of then I yet for that it may be I desire it more then you and consequently haue more thought thereon albeit more for your good also and the publique then for any particuler interest of myn owne I shal with your good leaue represent some before you in this place And first of all the time it self doth seeme to inuite greatly to som such cogitation when great princes and monarchies round about vs that had greater differences and difficulties then these are haue not only treated but concluded also a most honorable peace and frendship and the great most Christian King of France shewing himself worthie of that name hath remedied the very roote of al calamities springing to his noble realme before by returning to the vnion of the Apostolique sea of Rome which sea as commonly it falleth out hath byn the principal meanes of this so great and general a good to all those nations that are included within that peace and league which are many and great as by the articles thereof doth appeer And no lesse curteously and honorably is her Maiestie inuited also to the same and all that desire the true good both of her person state and crowne do wish and hope that it may take effect And truly neuer could this weightie afaire be treated as it seemeth with
fyne frutes our new ghospel then freshly planted and yet in the bud began to bring forth for that all this hatred and barbarous vsage towardes Spaniards and other Catholique forayners rose principally vpon the difference of religion lately begonne within our realme and these lads as the first professed proselites therof vpon heate and zeale committed these holy actions as the first frutes of so heauenly a seed But since that tyme we haue had much larger experience therof and I presume that most mennes myndes in England are sufficiently cleared in this case and if not let them behold the behaueour of Sir Francis in this libel who is an ancient branche of that plantation And so hauing seen the state of matters how they stood at that tyme and in particuler what king Philip had promised to do and what he was bound to do and then what in deed he performed really whyle he was among vs which was more in deed then either he promised or had obligation to performe as hath byn shewed let vs heare now what Sir Francis sayth he would haue donne if he could or if his abode had byn longer in England The tale shall go in his owne wordes for better declaring his spirit Thus then he writeth This mariage was sought for and intended also in shew only to strengthen the hand of the Queen of England to bring in the Romish religion and gouernment into this land and to establish it with continuance with purpose and meaning to ad strength to all the corners of Christendome to continue Poperie where it was and to bring it in where it was not that so the Arche-prelate of Rome might hold the scepters and power of all princes and potentates of Christendome in his hand to dispose a● his pleasure but the plottes and practises layd and pursued by the Spanish king had made a wofull proof to England of a further mark shot at which was discouered in a letter to some of our nobles from a true harted English-man in Spayne had not God almightie in his rich mercy preuented their purposes and defeated them in their determinations as it shall appeare hereafter c. This is the preface and entrance which Sir Francis maketh to the discouerie he promiseth of great hydden mysteries about plottes and practises not only layd but also pursued by king Philip whyle he was in England which neuer came to light vntill this day though at that tyme they were discouered as he sayth in a letter to some of our nobles from a true harted English-man in Spayne But for the credyt of so new and weightie and incredible a secret it had byn good he had named the parties and particularities therof as wel who wrote as also who receyued that letter For first the English-man in Spayne though he were true harted to the faction of S. Francis syde to wit to the Protestantes yet might he perhaps not be so true handed or true tongued at that tyme or so truly informed of thinges or of that authoritie that this his letter or report may beare credyt in so great a busines agaynst so great men it being taken vp perhaps at tauerns or porte townes and market places by some merchantes seruant or factor or other lyke wandring compaignon as well tipled with Spanish seck as with English heresie who might wryt these news from Spayne of K. Philip as Iohn Nicols the minister brought and printed from Rome and Italy in our dayes of the Pope and Cardinals And that this discouery if any such were and that the tale be not wholly forged by Sir Frācis himself could haue no better ground then that I haue sayd to wit the reporte of some vulgar people or the coniecture of some particuler discoursiue head as is euident in it self for that this being a most secret designement and drift of the king himself and of his priuie Councel who were all at that day remayning in England and had this proiect within their owne brestes only how could it be discouered by an English-man from Spaynerthink you Agayne the nobles in England to whome he sayth the letter was written might be such as probably it may be iudged to haue byn written of purpose to feed their humors or to comfort them in those dayes or that themselues did procure it to be written and sent for their credit or that themselues deuysed it in England to make therby the Spaniards more odious and their doinges more suspected and to draw by this meanes more English after themselues to impugne the present state and gouernment as when the lord Courtenay Earle of Deuonshyre for missing the mariage of Queen Marie beganne to practise and to think of leauing the land vpon discontentment and when the Carewes and other of that crew fled the realme for conspiracies to the same effect such a letter was much to their purpose But I shall not need to call in reasons and circumstances for shewing the vanitie of this letter for that the manifest and shameles falshoodes which it relateth will easely discouer the forgerie as also the forge it self from which it proceedeth I will follow then the continuation of Sir Francis narration in his own wordes Now to proceed sayth he to lay open the right mark that in deed this king shot at though when he made way to ioyne in mariage with Queen Marie he made semblance of great conscience to Catholique religion and great care to bring the whole land into the obedience therof and seemed to glorie much when it was brought to passe as his letter to his holy father at Rome written out of England doth make shew wherin he expresseth what a worthie woorke he had donne when he had drawen the nobles commons of the land to submit themselues to his holinesse as their cheef those are his wordes yet litle did the nobles and commons know what was intended towardes them by this catholique childe of Rome for vnder this colorable name of catholique religion was hidden the ambitious humor of a most proud vsurping tyrant whose resolution was vpon mature deliberation and consultation with his machiuilian counsellors to seek by al the possible kinde means he could to win the principal of our Nobles to affect him and in their affection to possesse him of the crown and so to establish him in an absolute power ouer poor England and to bring this to passe he decreed to spare neither cost nor kindenes c. Hetherto is the asseueration of Sir Francis concerning king Philips intention to gain our crowne but neuer a syllable more of proofe then you haue heard before to wit his owne woord and bare assertion which he taking to be sufficient passeth ouer presently to explicate exaggerate the dangerous effectes that would haue ensued vpon vs when the king should haue gotten his pretence But I must pul him by the sleeue request him to stay prooue a litle better that the king
common-wealth many perils diuerted both for the present and the time to come many benefits and benedictions insew euery way if I be not deceiued which yet I leaue to the high and most holy inscrutable prouidence of almightie God to determine at his pleasure and to your Lordships wisdomes to consider with due maturitie And so most humbly I take my leaue This first of September 1598. Antigo. of flatterie Esa. 3. The present state of English blessings ●●cles 22. Scotland Ireland● Flaunders● Fraunce England Spiritual effectes by change of religion Ioan. 17. Act. 4. Eph. 4. Gal. 3. 2. Thes. 5. 1. Cor. 4. About certayntie in religion A playne demonitiation agaynst Sir Francis VVhat effectes of vertue nevv religion hath vvrought Esa. 11. Sledan Math. 3. 8. 4. Luc. 3. Act. 2. 2. Corinth 7. 2. Rom. 8. Coll. 3. Math. 19. 17 1. Cor. 7. Luc. 11. 14. Temporal effectes by change of religion Strength felicitic by vnion Securitie Issue of her Maiestie Establishment of suecession Vnion vvith Rome see Apostolique Ancient leagues VVarres abroad Damages receaued at home Recusantes The sōme of all that hath byn saide Senec● Deuised da●●●enes Learning in Q. Maries reigne Manifeste vntruthes Vntruth Vntruth Hovv reading of Scriptures vvas forbidden vvhie Comparason ● Cor. 3. Ad Marcellinum Vnderstanding of Scriptures a peculier gift Apoc. ● Luc. 24. Act. ● Ibidem Experience of hurtes come by permitting the reading of scriptures to the ignorāt Ioan● Burcher burned The first forged position Distinction of laytie cleargie Origen hom 7. in Herem Epiph. Episc. ad loan Episcopum Hierosol Hieron Cō in cap. 12. Hierem. Maxime Minime D. Thom. 2. 2. quaest 82. ●r 20. VVhat deuotion is vvhence it proceedeth Psal. 38. VVhy the best learned are not alvvayes most deuout● 1. Cor. ● The Catholiques more authors of knowledge then Protestants The second faigned position Act. 20. About S. Thomas of Canterbury Theodor. lib. 4. c 6. lib. 5. c. 17. deinceps Zozom lib. 8 fere per totum Socrat. lib. 6. c. 16. Zozom lib. 8. c. 17. Niceph. l. 14 c. 43. Math. Paris Vide apud Lippoman Surium Mense Decemb Edoard in vita D. Thom● cap. 26. K. H. his voluntarie penance The third feigned position Impudent calumniation Heb. 13. Ephes. 6. Rom. 13. The fourth faigned position Shameles lyinge Many cauiles and falshoodes Rom. 13. Vide quest 26 27. addit 6. Tho. ad 3. p. caet tract 9. opustul de indulgentijs Ioan. 20. A fonde cōclusion The malignitie of Sir Francis The estate of Lady Elizabeth in Q. Maries tyme. Causes of securitie to Lady Elizabeth in Q. Maries tyme. VVicked calumniatiōs Leu. 4. ● Num. 35. 1. Reg. 19. 15. 16. 17. About Doctor Storie Doctor Stories z●le and complaynt A Counselour may speake freely About the Bul. of Pius Quintus A ridiculous proposition Three things considerable in this knights accusation Anno Domini 1570. regni 13. Incitation of Popes by the English Protestantes Contemptuous proceeding The excomunication agaynst the Queene Other hostile actions obiected Of the patience of Catholiques The patiēce of Protestātes Goodmans booke The reuels of forayne heretiques Northumb. VVestmerl Fr. Throg Char. Pag. Northumb. Arundel The Comparison betvveen Bishop Gardener Cardinall Allen. 2. Cor. 6. Of Bishop Gardener Rom. 13. Bishop Gardener his gentle nature The Dukes speaches to Bishop Gardener The Duke of North. religion Stovv ●n 1. Reg. Man●e A mysterious bracelet Of Bishop Gardeners fall Sto anno 1. ●d 6. About bringing in the Spaniard in Q. Maries dayes Rom. 13. The Sermō of Bishop Gardener at Pauls Crosse. Bishop Gardener his repeutance at his death K. Henrie the 8. inclination to reconcile himselfe The sleepe and dreame noted by B. Gardener in England Seem Hēr 25. cap. 22. an̄ 28. cap. 7. 17. K. Henries perplexitie about religion The stirres in king Edvvardes dayes Of Cardinal Allen. VVhy Doct. Allen. D Sāde●s and other lyke might vtten their myndes more playnly Hovv the Q is ou● mother and he Pope our father Sir Francis ridiculous Ioan. v●t About Iesuites in general and their cōtradictors Act. 28. Iustin. apol 2. ad Anton. Pium. Tert. apol aduersus gētes Sap. 10. Psalm 79. 7. Luc. ● Isai. 8. Heb. 12. Causes of tribulations to Gods seruantes Ioan. 18. Act. 9. 2. Cor. 1. Dyuers sortes of contradictors of Iesuits 1. Cor. 1. 1. Timoth. 1● 2. Cor. 11. 1. Ioan. 2. Philip. 1. 1. Timoth. 1. 2. Timoth. 4. Profession of Iesuites 1. Ioan. ● Chrysost. Tom. 5. hom 2. de vit monach Basil. serm de institut monachi Nazianz. ●rat 1. in Iulian. Apostat Iesuits doctrine Eccles. 1. Dan. 12. The name lisfe and cōuersation of Iesuits Iustin. apol 2. ad Imp. Anton. Tert. apol Top liffe the preestqueller Ihon Chattel in France an 1594. offred to kil the king Ioanes Ghineardus martyred Cic. lib. 2. off D. Tho. 2. sent dist 44. art 2. de Regim principum cap. 6 Caet in D. Thom. 2. secundae q. 64. art 3. Sot de iust lib. 5. q. 1. art 4. Diuers enemies of Iesuites Tertul. Apolog cap. 8. Cap. 2. Apostatical Iesuites Ioan. 3. Deut. 32. Iustinus Apolog prima Part. 6. Constant cap. 1. Exam. admitt cap. 4. Iesuites labors and indeuours for the publique Tertul. Apol. ●●p 42. Obiections against lesuites ansvvered Ambition 1. Cor. 1● VVhether Iesuites be seditions trooblers of common vvalthes Act. 24. Luc. 23. A holy kynde of seditiō Luc. 12. S. Bonauent stim diuini ●●noris Eccles. 41. VVhether Iesuites do seeke the deathes of princes Ioan. 12. The fact of Iohn Chattel in france the 27. of Decēb. 1594. An other deuyse against Iesuites in Holland Refutal of the fable VVhether Iesuites seeke her maiest blood 1. Cor. 2. Defence of F. persons in particuler An euident demonstration 1. Reg. 2● 2. Timot. 2. About good lyf Math. 7. Iacob 2. The first charge agaynst Catholiques An erroneconscience also byndeth Rom. 2. Idolothita Roman 14. Aug. lib. 4. contra Iuda cap. 3. An erroneous conscience doth euer excuse Roman 1● Protestantes discredit Matti 13. Marc. 14. Luc. 8. About the hurtes that recusantes vvould do Argumentum ad hominem 1. Cor. 14. No subiectes to be vrged vpon invvard desyres The third charge against recusantes Sir Francis Hastinges conscience Notorious rayling and calumniatiō agaynst recusaut Catholiques A bare English hart vvhat it is An absurd position of Sir Francis Gen. 12. 19. 3. Reg. 12. 4. Reg. 3. Hier. 38. 39. 40. c. Ruff. lib. 1. cap. 18. Zozom lib. 3. cap. 12. Socrat. lib. 3. cap. 4. Psal. 44. Math. 17. Luc. 12. 1. Cor. 2. Domestical examples 1. Pet. 2. About obedience to tēporal Princes Acts. ● False taanslation 1. Pet. 2. Hebrae 13. Spiritual go uernours Acts. 20. Most absurd doctrine Mat. 15. 1. Pet. 2. Hovv recusantes do obey and hovv they may not A speech to catholique recusantes 1. Pet. 2. Math. 22. Marc. 12. Rom. 13. Temporal Magistrate 1. Pet. 2. Rom. 13. Note this point Ioan. 8. Rom. 13. 1. Pet. 2. Spiritual magistrate Ioan. 6. Luc. 12. Ioan. 13. Math. 23. Luc. 10. Heb. 13. Temporal and spiritual iurisdiction Occham to the Emperour Opprobtiousspeaches VVhether the Popes of Rome be Antichris●●● Antich one man Antichrist declared by the levves Antichrist vvhen Antichrist a Ievv Antichrist in Hierusalem Antichrists doctrine Antichrists miracles Antichrists tyme of raigne Henoch Helias Day of iugdment Hovv there are many Antichristes 1. Loan 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 venit 2. Thessal 2. Hovv Rome is Babylon About the Popes external honor The peril of Sir Francis rayling Exod. 22. Leuit. 20. Act. 23. Rom. 13. Hovv povver is to be respected Luc. 10. Math. 23. Harebrayne and hed longe dealings of Sir Francis 1. Cor. 5. 6. A demonstration agaynst Sir Francis madnes Luther Caluin Diuers reasons for the Bishop of of R●ome his preheminence Plato in polit Arist. lib. 3. polit cap. 5. Agust lib. 11. ciuit Dei cap. 15. 1. Cor. 10. Cant. 4. Saynt Peter cheefe of the church vnder Christ Ioan. 3. August in hunc locum Luc. 24. Marc. 16. Act. 1. Act. 2. Act. 3. Act. 5. Act. 10. Ibidem Act. 9. Chrysost. Ibidem Gal. 1. Chrysost. homil 87. in Ioan. Commissiō of Saynt Peter Math. 16. Ioan. 21. Ambrose in cap. vltim●̄ Luc. August in Ioan. 21. Chrisost in Ioan 21. Epiphan● in ancor Hovv Saint Peters charge is imparted also to others Saint Peters successors Popes of Rome 1 Pet. 5. The Particuler obligation of English tovvardes the Bishop of Rome Raging agaynst the Spanish nation VVhy Spaniards are maligned Speeches of English vvhen they vvere potēt Of the spanish nation 1. Mach. 8. Rare Spaniards Particular obligations of Spaniards The defence of the King of Spayne in particuler The condition of the mariage vvith the Spanish King King Philips vsage to made the English The vsage of English tovvards Span. in Q. Mariestyme The Count of frētsalida robbed pretily in England First frutes of nevv ghospellers A discourse of Sir Francis of King Philip secret meaning The letter out of Spayn discredited L. Courtenay The Carevves A malitious forgerie agaynst King Phil. Faigned effects of an imagined vsurpation About taxes paied to the King of Spayne The tribu● of Alcaualla A shamles tale The improbabilitie of the calumniation Duchesse of Feria King Phil. sought not Queen 〈◊〉 destruction About lopus the Physitiā In the 6. Encounter The conclusio● Effectes of yuel tongues A supplication to the Councel for moderatiō Reasons for moderation Qualities of the princes to be dealt vvithall Pope Clement viij K. Phillip The Catholiques of England their cheef desyre The furie of purita●ical spirits Cyprian ●p 93. The effects of dying for religion in England Math. 21. Eccles. ● Iustin. lib. 3. Cicero off lib. 2. Luc. 11. The dangers after her Maisties death The example of Aug. and other kings Kings of England In the 6. incounter The example of King Henrie the eight and the King of France In the 3. incounter An important cōsideration A ioyful state The first proposition of Protestantes in the vvorld