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A79828	The discoverer. Being an answer to a book entituled, Englands new chain, the second part, discovered. Shewing in what part the sayd book is false, scandalous, and reproachfull; in what destructive to the present government; in what particulars it tends to division and mutiny in the army, and the raysing of a new warre; and wherein it hinders the releife of Ireland, and continuing of free-quarter; according to the Parliaments censure upon the sayd booke. Also the generall officers of the army are here cleared from sundry falshoods, and slanders charged upon them: with a further discovery of many dangerous and destructive designes still carryed on by the levelling party, against the peace, safety, and freedome of the people. The second part.; Discoverer. Part 2.	Canne, John, d. 1667?	1649 (1649)	Wing C437; Thomason E564_9; ESTC R206100	76,844	90

of Church and Common-wealth Thirdly No man hath been styled a Leveller for any sense of Common right but because under this colour and cloak they have carryed on pernicious Plots and Designes to the great detriment and dammage of the Nation Plato seeing Diogenes with a Coat of holes sayd he could see his Pride thorow the holes of his Coat Howsoever Treason and Sedition doe use to cloath themselves with the habits of Common right h Auctor tumultus T. Curtifius quondam Pretoriae cohortis Miles Primo caetibus clandestinis apud Brundisium circumjecta opida moae positis propalam libellis libertatem vocabat agrestia per longinquos saltus ferocia servitia Et erat ijsdem regionibus Curtius Lupus Questor cui provincia vetere ex more Cales evenerat Is disposita clussiariorum copia captantem tum maxime conjurationem disjecit Tacit. Annal. l. 4. p. 125. Liberty Safety that under those Liveries they may get countenance and finde the more accesse in the World yet the movings thereof are not so covert and hid but judicious and discerning men can easily observe the same Secondly It is no lesse false in charging the Councell of Warre with i Englands new Chaine p. 7. as much arbitrarinesse as ever was in the world sentencing some to death others to disgracefull punishments restraining and releasing at pleasure c. Answ 1. What as ever was in the World Never worse done by Jew nor Gentile before Reader it is worth thy observation how their accusations are alwayes framed thus either our Magistrates are matched with the vilest Tyrants that ever * The Discoverer p. 5. were or the greatest Oppressours on Earth are not halfe as bad as they But secondly How tender the Ruling part of the Army hath beene in taking away life by Martiall Law is evident by that true Report which k The Justice of the Army p. 1. one hath lately given thereof there having beene not above seven or eight executed since the Generall had bis Commission l Qui vult amari languida regnet manu Senec. Tragic Non quidquid Nocens reus pati mereretur id egregio sub principe Tac. l. 14. Annal. p. 275. an unparallel'd example Phillip King of Macedon was wont to say That the reproaches and injuries of the Athenian Orators caused him to order his words and deeds so that themselves should be proved Lyars The moderation and clemency of his Excellency and Councell of VVarre hath been such as their Enemies have been found false accusers in all their seditious Papers and Pamphlets against them Thirdly For the persons there mentioned and the cause wherefore censured we shall speake thereof in another place here we shall onely acquaint the Reader how it hath been ordinarily the practice of Conspirators when they have sought to destroy the present Government and thereby to advance themselves to asperse the Officers and Commanders of the Army with pride tyranny dominion lust c. as a weapon of meer advantage the better to effect their selfe-seeking ends 3. The Book tels us that m England new Ch●●●● p. 3. their Generall Councels according to their engagements ought to consist onely of two select Commission Officers and two private Souldiers chosen by every Regiment with such Generall Officers as assented to the Engagement and no other Answ The dissolution of the Agitators is much complained of and made one main ground of great division and mutiny in the Army but the truth in that n See Mr. H●●● D●● Booke called The Levellers Designe p. 4 5. where th●● thing a l●●gly hand●●d same power by which they had their constitution made a dissolution and nul thereof And this was done by a Petition to the Generall from most of the Regiments of Horse and Foot wherein they humbly desired that their Agitators might be sent back to their respective Regiments and that they would have the Councell of Warre to be in the same manner it was before professing their subjection and obedience thereunto and according to their Petition by a mutuall and joynt consent of all parties publiquely declared the Councell of Agitators was dissolved So that it is false that the Generall Councell should consist of any Commission Ofcers or private Souldiers chosen by every Regiment Neither can the Ruling part of the Armie be charged with Violation of that Engagement nor doth there remaine any obligation on them to have revived or continued any such Councell much lesse is it warrantable in the Souldiery of the Army to assume any such power as to act thereby 4. It is an accusation grounded upon a lye to say that those o Englands new Chaine p. 3. Officers and Souldiers were sleighted and discountenanced who first engaged against the destructive Votes of Parliament and stood firme to their engagement at New Market and Triploe-heath For first such men are not onely still in place and matters of the greatest trust reposed in them but also have ever shewed their dislike against the Levelling Faction Secondly if any Officers or Souldiers have been checked and controuled it was * If a Servant run away from his Master will not hee speake evill of the Family Who will admire when men are punished for sedition to heare them complaine afterwards against their Judges for some apparent miscarriages and not for well-doing And here wee shall Discover unto the Reader a prety devise of these men which is to relate how some of their Party have been sleighted discountenanced sentenced c. and withall report what good services they have done concealing in the meane time the just p Note Thou shalt never finde in any of their Papers the reason truely set downe wherefore any of their Faction have suffered onely their manner is to name the sufferers and what they suffered and where but the cause they durst never speake of Judge therefore the Tree by the fruits cause wherefore they suffered to the end ignorant and simple people may thinke they were punished unjustly To omit many examples there is one VVilliam Thomson often mentioned in their Bookes now who in reading their fad Representation of him would imagine that a man so cryed up and styled by Mr. Lilburne q The peoples Prerogative p. 42. the honest Nounsubstantive Souldier was first questioned at a Court-Marshall for his prophane and scandalous life Namely for drunkennesse gameing r The Justice of the Army p. 7 8 9. quarrelling for breaking up a mans House in the dead of the night where he wounded three or four persons layd fellony to the charge of the Mistresse of the house for robbing him of twenty pound of Gold and Silver and afterwards confessed hee had lost none much more of the like wicked and base doings were proved against him whereupon he was ſ Mr. Lilburne saith he was a Corporall in Colonell Wh●leys Regiment and was cashiered at the head thereof but he is very carefull not to shew

The Discoverer Being an Answer to a Book entituled ENGLANDS NEW CHAIN The Second Part Discovered SHEWING In what part the sayd Book is false scandalous and reproachfull in what destructive to the present Government in what particulars it tends to division and mutiny in the Army and the raysing of a new Warre a●d wherein it hinders the releife of Ireland and continuing of free-Quarter according to the Parliaments censure upon the sayd Booke Also the Generall Officers of the Army are here cleared from sundry Falshoods and Slanders charged upon them With a further Discovery of many dangerous and destruct●ve D●signes still carryed on by ●he Levelling Party against the peace safety and freedome of the people The Second Part. PRO. 18.6 7. 19.19 A Fooles lips enter into contention and his mouth calleth for stripes A Fooles mouth is his destruction and his lips are the snare of his soule A false witnesse shall not be unpunished and be that speaketh lyes shall perish LONDON Printed by Matthew Simmons 1649. TO The Right Honourable the Commons of England assembled IN PARLIAMENT SIRS SINCE the Imprisonment of Mr. Lilburne and the other three There is published a Book under Mr. Walwins Name wherein he manifesteth a great desire that the Parliament had been pleased for the satisfaction of all those their faithfull Friends who are concerned in it and of the whole Nation in generall to have expresly applyed each part of the Book to each censure upon it as to have shewed in what part it was false scandalous and reproachfull in what destructive to the present Government also to have shewed what part sentence or matter therein rended to division and mutiny in the Army and the raysing of a new Warre in the Common wealth or wherein to hinder the reliefe of Ireland and continuing of Free-Quarter For what end he writes thus it may easily be conjectur'd And therefore to wipe of the aspersion and reproach from your Honourable House we have undertaken the Justification of your Censure upon that Booke and according to the severest crimes and guilt Expressed in your Act have here manifested the sayd Booke to deserve no lesse in every particular Now from this answer we are occasioned to put you in minde how dangerous and destructive to all formes and kinds of Government are Trayterous Mutinous and Reproachfull Libels and Pasquils In truth the wisest of the Gentiles understood so much and accordingly prescribed and provided remedies against it in their republicks We have also observed the wisedome and singular care of Magistrates in forraine parts For howsoever there are persons amongst them as ill affected to their State as any herewith us yet they know how and doe stop the passage and prevent the danger of such things by the due execution of good lawes It is true in our Lawes there are helps provided notwithstanding the mischeif and miserie remaines And why As foolish Birds frighted a little at first with the Husbandmans Scarerow and after a while observing that it stirre not are bold to sit it upon it and defile it So when Authority either revives some former statute or makes a new act against the aspersers of the present Government at first the Libellers and Raylers are a little frighted But seeing there is not that mooving acting prosecuting as they fear● at first they take so much boldnesse as to come neere you even to your very faces set upon you and defile you and not onely in your reputation and name but your power and Government and in the vilest and basest manner as ever was known in any Common-wealth Sirs we speake this out of a tender respect unto you and to shew how much we desire that the Fac●s of our Elders may be honoured and their Authoritie not blasted by such a base Generation of men Neither truely know we any cause why such Pests and Plagues in a common-wealth may not as well be suppressed in England as in other parts If the like strict and exact course be taken here as 〈◊〉 elsewhere Now the Lord give you that wisedome both in this and other things as may be for the Nations prosperity peace libertie and your own comfort Crown and honour TO His EXCELLENCY the Lord FAIRFAX c. AND To the Right Honourable LEIVT GENERALL CROMWEL c. My Lords THE reason why wee have here mentioned Your Honourable Names is in regard the matter contained in Our DISCOVERER is your deserved Vindication from many vile aspersions raysed up against you by some malitious and seditious tongues You hnow in War the Generall and cheife Commanders are sought after by every one more then the common Souldiers Envy is like certaine Flyes called Cantharides who light specially upon the fairest Wheat and most blown roses That you are singled out by some men and made now the subject of their falsehood and slander it is no marvaile for it hath been so from the beginning men evermore of best deserving and greatest worth have most felt the scourge of tongues M. Cato Major a Pop. Rom. prudens vppellatus maximis Roma●●rum odijs exercitus est Quadragies enim series reus causam dixit semperque absol●tus est Sabel l. 1. c. 6. Elias layd this downe as a reason why he was willing to die I am no better then my Fathers The like reason may move you to be patient contented comforted you are not worse used then David was yea Christ himselfe your Lord and Master was serv'd so When an Artificer hath before his eyes a famous patterne of his worke on which he looketh he perfecteth his owne much the better Tak● the Prophets which were before you for an example of suffering men eminent for grace gifts and Office Quis emim paulo majori anime non mal●t in bello cum peric●lo cum his proficisci qui in precio sunt quam domi cum i●s in ocio desidere qui contempti habentur maxime si rex ipse ad Pralium eat Cartwright historia Christi Lib. 1. p 375. Besides it must needs be a matter of singular joy unto you to consider how the godly every where love you honour you carrie you in their Bosome and on their hearts as the Jewels and Treasure of the people So that as light is loved and men will love it though Batts and Owles reject it so are you under God esteemed as two great lights of the Nation neither doth the splendour and brightnesse of your persons appeare the lesse lovely sweet and beautifull to them for that some Night-birds cannot without vexation and envy looke thereon And to say the truth the godly every where have the more cause to love and honour you considering it is for their sake and the truths sake and for the advancement thereof that you are aspers'd and so much we have in this Treatise manifested And howsoever for your owne particulars there needed not this Vindication for inward peace and a good conscience is enough for a mans owne satisfaction

Ruling Officers as to be accessary to that horrid and cruell murder And indeed the whole relation tends onely to this that for opposing their unjust proceedings they secretly made him away Now the Law of God speaking of a false witnesse saith n Deut. 19 1● You shall doe unto him as he had thought to have done unto his brother The Hebrews explaine it thus x Maim●ny Treat● of witness Chap. 18. Sect. 1. 2. 5 If they have testified falsly of a transgresion for which men are guilty of stoning to death they are all to be stoned If of burning they are to be burnt and so for y Note They who are false witnesses in other things beside murder as they thought to have done to others so it must be done to them if they have falsly accused others of Treason they must suffer then as Traytors if of tyranny opp●ession c. suffer accordingly other deaths And if they testifie of crimes worthy beating every one of them is to be beaten 2. In their Relation about the Lilburns there are sundry scandalous things First Leivetenant Colonell Henry Lilburn was never solicited by the great men in the the Army to asperse his brother John but whatsoever he spake concerning an intent to murd●● the Ling it was without being wrought by any one of them so to doe neither knew they the carriages and passages between them two but what was abroad and commonly reported Secondly It is also a slander to say that the Officers would never suffer th● asperser to be brought forth to the proofe for they never did any thing in way of opposition but left the thing wholly to themselves and their Friends to do therein what they would Thirdly That he should be advanced to the Government of Tinmouth Castle for that perfidious service it is as false a thing as ever mouth uttered We could declare if need were the reason and cause wherefore he was appointed to that place but it is sufficient the Reader take notice that what they report is not true such a thing was never thought nor spoken neither have they any proofe or Author for it but maliciously forged it out of their owne heads 4. What forehead would not blush to say the a As they charged the Ruling Officers before with murder so here with Treason General Officers inclined him to this revolt themselves as well by their example as by countenancing him in the beginning thereof Here b Caute ●si non caste Afranij simulans Cic. pro Sextio Machiavel or a Jesuite would smile at so uncovert and naked a Lye for any thing rather and with more probability and likelyhood might be charged upon the Generall Officers then that they should give an example or countenance to Treason against the Common wealth Never have they to this day betrayd their trust or given up any Fort or Castle to the Enemie As Blaesus sayd c Mea potius caede imbuite manus leviore flagitio legatum interficietis quam a Reipub. desciscitis Tacit Annal. lib. 1 pag. 11. In my blood rather imbrue your hands for it is a lesser offence to slay the Le●vtenant then fall from the obedience of the State So much fidelity truth and constancy have they alwayes shewed to the Nation that they have all along preferred the welfare and safety thereof before their owne lives Fifthly whereas they say His Father and kindred have beene aspersed with the fact by the Officers and their Associats this also is a slander according to the best intelligence we have howsoever the thing is of no publique concernment Here 〈◊〉 a fit place to remember Mr. Walwins d The fountain of slander discovered p. 3. words If all stories saith he be scarcht into it will be found that unjust cruell covetous or ambitious men such as were ingaged in corrupt interest or in some wicked designe were ever the aspersers and honest just and publique spirited men aspersed Is this witnesse true One of themselves even a e If Walwyn be here a true Prophet the Authors and Promoters of that Booke are unjust cruell c. the aspersers honest just c. for if all stories be searche into it will be found that in two sheets of paper are more false scandalous and seditions aspersions then most I●●lip volumes doe containe let them choose what one Booke they will Prophet of their own f Job 15.6 Then thine owne mouth condemneth thee and not I yea thine owne lips testifie against thee 3. Now what next g Englands new Chaine p. 5. Then they fall to worke again about the Ki●g and send the Propositions of Newcastle to him which they knew and were agreed he should not signe Answ When the Spider hath emptied even her very bowels to make one slender Web one puffe of winde blowes all away so it is here with these men having vented all the rancour and poyson of their hearts one word is sufficient to refute whatsoever they have sayd But that we purposly forbeare a large discourse otherwise we could in many particulars shew their monstrous basenesse here that the senders of those Propositions knew before they sent and had agreed among themselves that the King should not signe them it is another devise of their owne head and they might fasten the scandall and slander as well and with as much reason and truth upon any other men as upon the Ruling Officers for they neither knew what the King would doe nor mov'd him to any refusall neither agreed before hand that he should not signe what they sent him neither to speake directly to the thing did the Army Officers send the Propositions to him h Pro. 12 19. The lip of truth shall he established for ever but a lying tongue is but for i According to the common saying among the Je● 〈◊〉 Menda●●● dibut ●●●a sunt Lyes have their feet cut off so that they cannot stand a moment 4. Now to that which they speake concerning k Englands new Chaine pag. 9.10 a serious repentance the whole matter as they have set it downe is a scandall and a lye For first It was never acknowledged with the greatest expressions of sorrow nor yet expressed at all that they had walked by corrupt politick Principles No such words were then spoken by the l Reader take notice wee have relation here to what was done publikely by the Generall Officers so that if any thing hath been privately whispered by any particular man it nothing concerns this matter Ruling Officers but they have devised them of their owne head Secondly Neither was it sayd If ever the Nation be happy it must be by a conjunction in the Levellers Principles For is it probable or possible that they should so speak who know the Levellers Principles properly so cal'd are most destructive and dangerous as tending to the subversion of Church and State as for other Principles bottomed upon Religion Law Reason

find out a Contradiction a contradiction But 4. To let that passe note here their glorious flattery and notorious dissimulation because the Officers went not forward with their resolution to purge the House they are reproached for that and when they doe purge the House from its corruptions they shal be likewise rayld on for that so that whether they doe the thing or not all is one the scourge of their tongue cannot be avoyded 5. They so wrought the King by deep promises and hopes of restauration as that he inclined much to countenance the Army c. In lieu thereof the great ones of the Army endeavoured the revivall of a Treaty c. Answ 1. But is this brought in as a reproach Wherefore then have they perswaded the chiefe Officers in the Army to doe this very thing Lilburne in a Letter to o Whom he stiles in that paper The man whom God hath honoured and wil honour c. Neither will the Lord the lesse honour him now because he asperseth him Leivtenant Generall Cromwell writes thus p Jonahs cry out of the Whales belly pag. 8. If I were with you upon my life I durst dispute against you all that as things stand both in point of policy honesty and conscience you must apply to the King without which the peace of the Kingdome can never be setled Would any man be so impudent as to write thus and afterward q The Emperour of Russia provoked his ch ef Officers to pill and ransack the the Common sort of people but to no other end but that he himselfe might afterward when he saw good call them into question for it So they serve the Commanders counsell them to apply unto the King but it seemes for no other end but that afterward when they should have an occasion they might reproach and slander them for it revile the persons because they had done according to his owne counsel and advise But as we sayd just now the reproach of their mouth is not to be avoyded 2. For the Personall Treaty and addresses c. that some have had variable thoughts therein it is no marvell neither did the alteration of their minds denote any ill affection to the Common wealth And therefore to asperfe men because they were for the Treaty and afterward upon better consideration changed their opinion it shewes by what spirit such people are led for rather then they will forbeare calumniation they will cast off the rule of love wisedome justice yea humanity and reason it selfe But thirdly here they make account their Charge is proud The farre greater number of Officers would not by any meanes indure to heare of the Armies complyance with the King c. An Agreement of the people is produced c. The great Officers very much oppose it a while c. But seeing the same takes with the Army professe though at the present their judgements could not so farre close with it as to act for it yet they would never oppose it Answ r Ecc. 10.8 9. His mischiefe shall returne upon his owne head and his violent dealing shall come upon his ow●e pate First they here ſ The Hulke which the Flemins filled with sagots pitch rosin salt-peter brimstone and oyle having set it on fire let it floate with the tide that it might fall among the French and Hollanders ships but the wind turning was carryed back in midst of their owne So the thing which they have h●ve fr●med against the Offi ers hurts them not but falls upon their owne head acquit the Officers both of flattery and dissimulation for if they opposed it as 't is confest they did as much as lay in their power and more they could not doe .. 2. It shewed an excellent temper and great moderation in the Commanders that howbeit they could not act t In alio positum non alia sapere di●●●cile est Bern. in Epist yet they would not make any disturbance It was some addition to Davids victorie over the Philistim that he cut off his head with his owne Sword If their words here be well observed they are clearlie against themselves for to this effect they say The Officers having given the King hopes of restauration would willingly had it so did what they could that it might be so but meeting with too strong a partie it could not be neverthelesse they signified their dislike and gave their reasons for it and having thus discharged their owne dutie and conscience concerning all promises and engagements in behalfe of the King they rested as being unwilling to make disturbance in the Army or elsewhere Now where is this u All that they can make of it is this they complyed with the King and promised him their assistance the which they made good so farre as they were able and tended to the safety of the Nation glorious flatterie and notorious dissimulation even our enemyes themselves beeing Judges We come now to the last Generall head namely continuing of free Quarter They say x Englands new Chaine pag 17. it being an infinite shame that they should be y Such firebrands were Alorns and Sacrovir and to move the people to rebellion spake to the same purpose Igitur per conciliabula caetus seditiosa disserebant de continuatione tributorum gravitate fenoris saevitia ac superbia praesidentium egregium resu mendae libertati tempus Tacit. Annal. lib. 3. pag 97. suffered to proceed so farr therein as they have done there having beene no partie hitherto so inexcusable c. So that the intentions and ind●avours of these men to enslave the common-wealth or their continuing of burdens without any remorse at the dearenesse of food and the utter losse of trade exceeds in the nature and measure of it all the wickednesse of both other parties p●t together Answ 1. This is spoken as may be gathered from the foregoing matter in speciall to the people of the Land as being to blame that they contribute towards the maintainance of the Army but rather rise and resist to increase and continue their burdens and taxes and 2. That they may set forward the sooner in rebellion they are told that the King and Hollis were not so bad nor exercised the oppression and tiranny put both together that these men doe 3. They will make bold with Gods prerogative b La coz de la yegua no haze mal al potro search the heart affirming their a Though Lapis writes nonsence and Lilburne Treason yet it may be a question whether their intentions were to doe so intentions are to enslave the Commonwealth And lastlie so farr are our Governours from compassion or fellow-feeling as they regard not what misery hardnesse or hardship others suffer The Countrey People at Charons Cave near Naples for sports sake pu● their Doggs into a hole where they are choake with the sulpherous vapours comming forth Into such a hole these men would gladly bring the People choake them with treason But we hope they will be better advis'd and beare some things which for the present cannot be remedied rather then become the sport and merriment of a few Incendiari●● by undo●ing themselves Thus we have done with our Second Part Other things the Reader may expect from us speedily as in Answer to their Agreement of the people Mr. c Mr. Lilburne promiseth to shew the falsenesse and malignity of our former Discoverer in fathering upon him the errours of the Diggers now we beleeve he can better shift that off then the treason and sedition contained in his Englands new Chaine though he sayth he will Seale the truth of every line with his heart blood Lilburnes last Book c. FINIS