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A70371 The present separation self-condemned and proved to be schism as it is exemplified in a sermon preached upon that subject / by Mr. W. Jenkyn ; and is further attested by divers others of his own persuasion all produced in answer to a letter from a friend. Jane, William, 1645-1707.; Jenkyn, William, 1613-1685.; S. R. To his worthy friend H. N.; Brinsley, John, fl. 1581-1624.; H. N. 1678 (1678) Wing J454; ESTC R18614 63,527 154

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gibbet_n and_o the_o stake_n and_o cry_v out_o pelagianism_n and_o socinianism_n nay_o mahometism_n mr._n jenkin_n and_o his_o brethren_n once_o say_v in_o the_o vindication_n of_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n pag._n 140._o to_o make_v rupture_n in_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o divide_v church_n from_o church_n and_o to_o set_v up_o church_n against_o church_n and_o to_o gather_v church_n out_o of_o true_a church_n and_o because_o we_o differ_v in_o some_o thing_n therefore_o to_o hold_v communion_n in_o nothing_o this_o we_o think_v have_v no_o warrant_n out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o will_v introduce_v all_o manner_n of_o confusion_n in_o church_n and_o set_v open_v a_o wide_a gap_n to_o bring_v in_o atheism_n popery_n heresy_n and_o all_o manner_n of_o wickedness_n and_o all_o people_n will_v be_v apt_a to_o say_v the_o same_o and_o can_v not_o see_v into_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o separation_n if_o it_o come_v to_o this_o whether_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o meritorious_a or_o formal_a cause_n of_o our_o justification_n or_o whether_o moral_a virtue_n and_o grace_n differ_v in_o their_o nature_n or_o only_o in_o their_o cause_n it_o must_v be_v somewhat_o gross_a and_o tangible_a that_o they_o can_v judge_v of_o and_o therefore_o charge_v they_o home_o that_o they_o hold_v no_o necessity_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o moral_a virtue_n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o heathen_n or_o in_o christian_n without_o any_o divine_a grace_n will_v save_v and_o you_o do_v the_o work_n this_o be_v a_o lord_n have_v mercy_n write_v upon_o their_o church-door_n and_o people_n will_v be_v teach_v by_o this_o to_o avoid_v they_o as_o they_o will_v the_o plague_n and_o to_o be_v as_o wary_a of_o trust_v their_o soul_n with_o they_o as_o their_o body_n with_o tiger_n bear_n and_o wolf_n it_o be_v true_o and_o well_o observe_v by_o mr._n hickman_n in_o his_o sermon_n de_fw-fr haeresium_fw-la origine_fw-la pag._n 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