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A47144 A Farther account of the great divisions among the Quakers in Pensilvania, &c. as appears by another of their books lately come over from thence, intituled, Some reasons and causes of the late separation, that hath come to pass at Philadelphia, betwixt us, called by some of the seperate meeting, and others that meet apart from us : more particularly opened, to vindicate and clear us and our testimony in that repsect, viz. : that the seperation lieth at their door, and they, and not we, are justly chargeable with it : with an apology for the present publication of these things. Budd, Thomas, 1648-1699.; Furnis, Henry.; Keith, George, 1639?-1716. 1693 (1693) Wing K166; ESTC R16901 19,794 24

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the Spirit of Truth in our Hearts that as such Men immediately guilty of these vile Errors some of which no Protestant Christian Society would tolerate neither Episcopal Presbyterian nor Baptist are to be turned away and seperated from so that Society is to be turned away from whoever they be that doth uphold and tollerate them and bring them not to due Conviction and Condemnation after due and sufficient notice is given unto them as there hath been a long time from one Meeting to another as concerning some of them now many Months since past and nothing done effectually to bring them to any Conviction but that it seemeth they are resolved still to support or tollerate them Now the Scriptures that warrant us in this Separation altho' as is said first made by them are these following 2 Cor. 6.14 15 16 17. 1 Tim. 6 3 4 5. 2 Tim. 6.2 3 4 5. Tit. 3.10 Rev. 18.4 2 Thess 3.6 Rom. 16.17 Rev. 2 14 15 20. and the same is expresly confirmed by the Doctrine delivered by R. Barclay in his said Book well approved by good Friends who expresly saith p. 52. We do safely conclude that where a People are gathered into a Belief of the Principles and Doctrines of the Gospel of Christ if any of that People go from their Principles and assert things false and contrary to what they have already received such as stand and abide firm in the Faith have Power by the Spirit of God after they have used Christian endeavours to convince and reclaim them upon their Obstinacy to Seperate from such § 6. p. 52. and § 4. p. 33. he saith The Escapes Faults and Errors of such who own believe and profess the same Doctrine and Principles of Faith with us and go under the same Distinction and Denomination may by our Adversaries justly be imputed unto us if not seasonably and Christianly reproved reclaimed or condemned And therefore we judge that we have equal Ground and Cause of Seperation as well from that whole Society that doth not condemn these Men for their gross Errors in Fundamental Doctrines as we have to seperate from these particular Men seeing they who tollerate them both by Scripture and R. B's Book are guilty with them and the Errors of these Men may be justly imputed to them Note That whereas it hath been said by some That they would have dealt with these Men who have been guilty of those Errors but that G. K. would not go forth being desired to withdraw at the Meeting at R. E 's and at the Quarterly Meeting To this it is answered That G. K. had good reason not to withdraw at both these times because at both these times these who did take upon them to be Judges were his manifest Parties against him and so could not be in Justice his Judges but at the Yearly Meeting he did withdraw at the Meeting 's Desire and yet they did nothing to bring W. S. to Conviction besides it was not G. K. but the Truth it self that the Difference was concerning and they have had sufficient time since to have done it but nothing that we can hear of is done But it is very strange what some have said That no Error in Doctrin or Trespass whatsoever of particular Persons though tollerated by a Society that we were joyned with in the Possession of Truth can be any just cause of Seperation doth equally blame all our Friends in their Seperation from the respective Societies they were formerly joyned in Profession with as some in their Seperation from the Church of Rome others from the Episcopal others from the Presbyterian and Baptists and doth equally blame the Separation of the faithful Martyrs in Q. Mary's days from the Popish Worship in England yet well approved generally by our Friends And surely for People of contrary Principles and Spirits and having a contrary Faith and Perswasion in Fundamental Doctrines to be united together in one Worship would make the greatest Confusion imaginable and be incomparably more like Babylon than the true Church of Christ and so to affirm is contrary to all common Sense of any that hath the least true Notion of a Church that ought to be as a Field or Garden as clean of Weeds as possible for tho' the Tares are to be suffered to grow in the Field of the World yet they are not to remain in the Church according to Christ's Doctrine But at this rate the Weeds shall remain with the good Corn and Herbs in the same Garden yea and exceed them that cannot but greatly hurt the good Corn and Herbs Besides how can the Gardner delight in such a Garden that is full of Weeds and no care to seperate the good Herbs from the Weeds And tho' it hath been said by some That as the Faithful stand in the Power of God they shall have Dominion over the Unfaithful But we find no warrant or promise that God will give them Dominion if they obey not his Command which is To Seperate and withdraw from such and not to remain in Fellowship with them for what part hath a Believer with an Infidel 2 Cor. 6.15.17 POSTSCRIPT WE have seriously considered how that of late Years especially many are crept into a bare out-side Form of the Profession of the People of God called in Scorn Quakers and have assum'd or suffered themselves to be called by that Name and have frequented not only their publick Meetings but also their Men and Womens Meetings and some have presumed to Preach and Pray therein that to our certain knowledge by manifested Evidence of Words and Works are not worthy to be reputed Members of a Christian Society or Church of Christ because of their great Ignorance and Unbelief in the first Principles of the Doctrine of Christ whereof some here-away of late have given sufficient proof to the great Scandal of our holy Profession by their plain and express words uttered before divers credible Witnesset and sometimes by their unsound Doctrine published and gross Perversions of Scripture to the Observation of many who are but of weak understanding and some of them have been detected of scandalous Conversation and have not given any convincing Evidence of their true Repentance and that there hath been too much forbearance used by some toward such for their hardning and emboldning themselves against the Truth and faithful Friends and Brethren that by the marvellous Providence of God that hath suffered such things to come to light some have discovered their woful Ignorance Unbelief and gross Errors by their late words without all shame or fear and that some others have appeared too manifestly inclined to cloak excuse and support them which giveth us too great occasion to suspect them guilty of the same or the like things and that things are come to that pass of late that contrary Testimonies are born in Meetings by one against another and yet both pretending to the Spirit of Truth and great Disputes and Contentions have