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confound_v these_o two_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n and_o depart_v from_o some_o general_a opinion_n and_o practice_n which_o do_v not_o constitute_v but_o vitiate_v the_o church_n more_o he_o have_v to_o that_o purpose_n but_o that_o which_o i_o will_v special_o note_v out_o of_o he_o here_o to_o show_v the_o harmony_n and_o consent_n betwixt_o you_o which_o otherwise_o shall_v have_v come_v in_o before_o pag._n 269._o a_o man_n may_v possible_o leave_v some_o opinion_n or_o practice_n of_o a_o church_n say_v he_o and_o continue_v still_o a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n provide_v that_o whâ—t_o he_o forsake_v be_v not_o one_o of_o those_o thing_n wherein_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o church_n consist_v whereas_o peradventure_o this_o practice_n may_v be_v so_o involve_v with_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o this_o church_n that_o it_o may_v be_v simple_o impossible_a for_o he_o to_o leave_v this_o practice_n and_o not_o to_o leave_v the_o church_n external_a communion_n i_o 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teach_v not_o heresy_n nor_o preach_v down_o holiness_n etc._n etc._n and_o deny_v we_o not_o their_o communion_n unless_o we_o will_v sin_v or_o a_o conformist_n that_o will_v hold_v communion_n with_o none_o but_o his_o own_o party_n but_o separate_v from_o all_o other_o church_n in_o the_o land_n ib._n p._n 41._o be_v he_o a_o great_a separatist_n that_o confess_v they_o to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o their_o communion_n lawful_a but_o prefer_v another_o as_o fit_a for_o he_o or_o he_o that_o deny_v communion_n with_o true_a worship_v assembly_n as_o unlawful_a to_o be_v communicate_v with_o when_o it_o be_v not_o so_o if_o the_o former_a then_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o condemn_v they_o as_o no_o church_n be_v a_o diminution_n or_o no_o aggravation_n of_o separation_n and_o the_o local_a presence_n of_o a_o infidel_n or_o scorner_n will_v be_v a_o less_o separate_a state_n than_o the_o absence_n of_o their_o friend_n if_o the_o latter_a which_o be_v certain_a then_o 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which_o causless_o silence_n minister_n scatter_v flock_n and_o decree_v the_o unjust_a excommunication_n of_o christian_n and_o deny_v communion_n to_o those_o that_o yield_v not_o to_o sinful_a or_o unnecessary_a ill-made_a term_n of_o communion_n ibid._n three_o part_n p._n 13._o §_o 43._o and_o if_o any_o proud_a passionate_a or_o erroneous_a person_n do_v as_o diothrephes_n cast_v out_o the_o brethren_n undeserved_o by_o unjust_a suspension_n silencing_n or_o excommunication_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o tyrannical_a schism_n first_o plea_n &c_n &c_n p._n 41._o and_o as_o we_o say_v of_o the_o papist_n that_o they_o unjust_o call_v those_o man_n schismatic_n who_o they_o first_o cast_v out_o themselves_o by_o unjust_a excommunication_n may_v we_o not_o say_v so_o of_o any_o other_o especial_o if_o either_o for_o that_o which_o be_v a_o duty_n or_o for_o some_o small_a mistake_n which_o be_v not_o in_o the_o person_n power_n to_o rectify_v no_o great_a than_o most_o good_a 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though_o he_o say_v the_o distinction_n betwixt_o the_o bishop_n and_o priest_n be_v very_o ancient_a yet_o have_v he_o be_v require_v to_o own_o this_o distinction_n as_o ground_v on_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o to_o assert_v the_o right_n of_o episcopacy_n as_o of_o apostolical_a institution_n i_o very_o much_o question_n whether_o this_o will_v not_o have_v gravel_v he_o add_v p._n 440._o i_o believe_v there_o be_v very_o few_o to_o be_v find_v among_o we_o that_o question_n the_o ordination_n of_o all_o ordain_v by_o bishop_n and_o many_o will_v be_v glad_a if_o it_o be_v permit_v that_o some_o of_o you_o will_v sometime_o help_v we_o in_o our_o meeting_n where_o he_o speak_v of_o christian_a unity_n and_o concord_n to_o my_o poor_a understanding_n mr._n corbet_n speak_v more_o sound_o accurate_o and_o distinct_o p._n 441._o he_o be_v express_o against_o tyranny_n over_o the_o soul_n and_o man_n force_v the_o conscience_n by_o impose_v a_o necessity_n to_o believe_v that_o which_o they_o believe_v and_o to_o practice_v that_o which_o they_o practise_v where_o we_o must_v suppose_v the_o thing_n themselves_o be_v not_o necessary_a and_o according_a to_o what_o follow_v in_o this_o case_n the_o external_a communion_n cease_v of_o right_a and_o there_o be_v not_o any_o that_o be_v lawful_a to_o be_v have_v any_o more_o with_o such_o be_v there_o not_o need_v of_o a_o index_n expurgatorius_fw-la here_o this_o make_v something_o for_o dissenter_n and_o pinch_v some_o where_o else_o and_o what_o follow_v that_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o a_o single_a difference_n of_o government_n or_o discipline_n nor_o even_o a_o difference_n of_o ceremony_n innocent_a in_o their_o own_o nature_n be_v a_o sufficient_a occasion_n to_o break_v the_o sacred_a bond_n of_o communion_n be_v little_a to_o your_o purpose_n i_o think_v a_o single_a difference_n of_o ceremony_n shall_v not_o break_v communion_n where_o there_o be_v a_o union_n in_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o in_o thing_n necessary_a but_o there_o be_v more_o than_o a_o single_a difference_n of_o ceremony_n where_o no_o difference_n be_v allow_v but_o the_o same_o ceremony_n be_v impose_v on_o all_o though_o one_o part_n can_v look_v on_o they_o as_o innocent_a ceremony_n p._n 442._o speak_v of_o the_o protestant_a church_n in_o france_n he_o say_v we_o utter_o disapprove_v and_o see_v with_o grief_n certain_a extreme_n whereinto_o some_o of_o the_o one_o side_n and_o the_o other_o do_v cast_v themselves_o the_o one_o look_v upon_o episcopacy_n as_o a_o order_n so_o absolute_o necessary_a that_o without_o it_o there_o can_v be_v no_o ecclesiastical_a society_n etc._n etc._n then_o according_a to_o they_o there_o may_v be_v true_a church_n true_a minister_n without_o bishop_n and_o as_o they_o be_v ready_a to_o
though_o magistrate_n may_v regulate_v we_o in_o the_o circumstance_n of_o those_o duty_n which_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o gospel_n do_v command_v yet_o if_o on_o such_o pretence_n they_o violate_v or_o contradict_v either_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o the_o gospel_n and_o dedstroy_v the_o duty_n itself_o or_o its_o end_n whether_o we_o be_v bind_v in_o such_o case_n to_o obey_v they_o or_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o that_o we_o patient_o suffer_v first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 104._o q._n 6._o whether_o the_o king_n of_o israel_n have_v power_n to_o forbid_v the_o priest_n exercise_v their_o office_n according_a to_o god_n law_n or_o whether_o they_o can_v change_v or_o abrogate_v their_o office_n ibid._n p._n 20._o of_o solomon_n put_v out_o abiathar_n see_v p._n 21._o whether_o may_v they_o then_o have_v put_v out_o a_o lawful_a priest_n that_o have_v not_o forfeit_v his_o life_n or_o office_n or_o may_v they_o have_v put_v any_o one_o in_o his_o place_n that_o have_v not_o right_o from_o god_n or_o that_o be_v unqualify_v or_o may_v they_o have_v forbid_v the_o priest_n the_o work_v appoint_v they_o by_o god_n ibid._n p._n 22._o q._n 7._o whether_o such_o as_o christ_n law_n empower_v to_o ordain_v other_o to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n have_v power_n from_o christ_n to_o hinder_v the_o ordination_n of_o such_o as_o christ_n law_n admit_v into_o the_o ministry_n ibid._n p._n 25._o q._n 8._o whether_o the_o magistrate_n beside_o the_o power_n of_o the_o temple_n and_o tithe_n and_o public_a maintenance_n and_o liberty_n also_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n or_o degradation_n that_o no_o man_n may_v be_v a_o true_a minister_n without_o or_o contrary_a to_o his_o consent_n sacrileg_n desert_n p._n 11._o whether_o be_v not_o many_o of_o the_o nonconformist's_a true_a pastor_n of_o their_o several_a flock_n before_o they_o be_v silence_v and_o cast_v out_o ibid._n and_o whether_o do_v the_o eject_v they_o from_o the_o temple_n and_o tithe_n degrade_v they_o or_o make_v they_o no_o pastor_n to_o their_o flock_n though_o prudence_n may_v require_v minister_n and_o people_n to_o consent_v to_o a_o dissolution_n of_o such_o a_o relation_n when_o they_o can_v hold_v it_o without_o great_a hurt_n than_o benefit_n ibid._n q._n 9_o though_o prince_n or_o patron_n may_v 1._o offer_v meet_a pastor_n to_o the_o ordainer_n and_o consenter_n to_o be_v accept_v when_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n for_o their_o interposition_n 2._o and_o may_v hinder_v both_o ordainer_n and_o people_n from_o introduce_v intolerable_a men._n 3._o and_o when_o a_o people_n ignorance_n wilfulness_n faction_n or_o division_n make_v they_o refuse_v all_o that_o be_v true_o fit_a for_o they_o may_v urge_v they_o to_o accept_v the_o best_a and_o may_v possess_v such_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o public_a maintenance_n and_o make_v it_o consequent_o to_o become_v the_o people_n duty_n to_o consent_n yet_o whether_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n have_v not_o settle_v the_o right_n of_o ordination_n on_o the_o senior_a pastor_n or_o bishop_n and_o the_o right_n of_o consent_v in_o the_o people_n first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 33._o and_o whether_o any_o man_n can_v be_v the_o pastor_n of_o a_o church_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la or_o true_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la against_o the_o church_n or_o people_n will_n or_o without_o their_o consent_n ibid._n p._n 25._o as_o the_o say_v of_o cyprian_a be_v well_o know_v that_o the_o people_n have_v the_o great_a power_n both_o to_o choose_v a_o worthy_a priest_n and_o to_o refuse_v or_o forsake_v the_o unworthy_a ibid._n p._n 77_o and_o when_o in_o england_n it_o belong_v 1._o to_o the_o patron_n to_o present_v 2._o to_o the_o bishop_n to_o ordain_v and_o institute_v and_o therefore_o to_o approve_v and_o invest_v 3._o to_o the_o people_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la to_o be_v free_a consenter_n 4._o and_o to_o the_o magistrate_n to_o protect_v and_o judge_v who_o shall_v be_v protect_v or_o tolerate_v under_o he_o if_o these_o four_o party_n be_v for_o four_o minister_n or_o for_o three_o or_o two_o several_a man_n and_o can_v agree_v in_o one_o whether_o the_o culpable_a dissenter_n will_v not_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o schism_n ibid._n p._n 50._o q._n 10._o whether_o the_o church_n and_o council_n be_v in_o the_o right_n or_o no_o which_o for_o 700_o yea_o 1000_o year_n hold_v that_o the_o call_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v null_a that_o have_v not_o the_o clergy_n election_n and_o the_o people_n election_n or_o consent_n and_o if_o usurper_n shall_v thrust_v out_o the_o bishop_n and_o conformist_n and_o make_v themselves_o our_o pastor_n against_o our_o will_n what_o will_v the_o bishop_n think_v of_o such_o will_v they_o hold_v it_o unlawful_a to_o separate_v from_o such_o agree_v with_o they_o in_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n ans._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 27._o q._n 11._o if_o a_o lawful_a magistrate_n or_o prince_n put_v in_o place_n of_o pastor_n person_n of_o untried_a and_o suspect_a part_n of_o fidelity_n whether_o will_v his_o imposition_n make_v such_o the_o true_a pastor_n of_o that_o church_n before_o and_o without_o the_o people_n consent_n fiâ—st_v plea_n for_o p._n p._n 55._o if_o so_o then_o whether_o may_v not_o one_o roman_a emperor_n have_v undo_v all_o the_o church_n and_o soul_n in_o the_o empire_n in_o a_o great_a degree_n by_o impose_v on_o they_o insufficient_a heretical_a or_o malignant_a pastor_n ibid._n p._n 56._o if_o people_n be_v as_o much_o under_o prince_n for_o choose_v guide_n for_o their_o soul_n as_o a_o daughter_n in_o her_o father_n house_n be_v under_o her_o father_n for_o the_o choice_n of_o a_o husband_n which_o yet_o we_o have_v not_o see_v prove_v yet_o as_o he_o can_v be_v no_o husband_n to_o she_o without_o her_o consent_n though_o she_o culpable_o deny_v consent_n query_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o so_o here_o that_o they_o can_v be_v no_o pastor_n to_o people_n till_o they_o consent_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 209._o §_o 18._o but_o whether_o have_v god_n authorize_v the_o magistrate_n to_o choose_v what_o person_n every_o man_n in_o his_o dominion_n shall_v entrust_v his_o soul_n to_o as_o the_o pastor_n who_o conduct_n he_o be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o obey_v ans._n to_o dr._n still_o serm_n p._n 14._o whether_o shall_v the_o people_n have_v any_o judgement_n of_o discern_v or_o not_o if_o yea_o must_v not_o the_o bound_n of_o it_o be_v show_v without_o deny_v the_o thing_n as_o if_o that_o will_v bring_v in_o all_o confusion_n if_o usurper_n claim_v the_o crown_n must_v not_o subject_n judge_v which_o be_v the_o true_a king_n and_o defend_v his_o right_n will_v any_o say_v if_o the_o people_n be_v judge_n they_o may_v set_v up_o usurper_n and_o put_v down_o the_o king_n when_o they_o be_v but_o discerner_n of_o that_o which_o be_v before_o their_o duty_n and_o have_v no_o right_a to_o err_v or_o alter_v the_o law_n and_o right_n can_v any_o dreadful_a consequence_n be_v prove_v to_o follow_v on_o it_o or_o if_o it_o be_v otherwise_o must_v they_o not_o be_v rule_v as_o brute_n and_o so_o must_v not_o â—udg_v so_o much_o as_o who_o they_o be_v to_o obey_v be_v there_o any_o christian_n that_o dare_v say_v that_o bishop_n or_o prince_n be_v in_o all_o thing_n to_o be_v obey_v lest_o the_o people_n be_v make_v judge_n first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 70_o 71._o q._n 12._o whether_o the_o ministerial_a office_n be_v take_v up_o upon_o trial_n or_o for_o a_o time_n or_o during_o life_n with_o a_o capacity_n to_o perform_v the_o work_n if_o the_o latter_a be_v grant_v then_o whether_o it_o be_v any_o less_o than_o 1._o horrid_a sacrilege_n 2._o perfidious_n covenant-breaking_a 3._o disobedience_n to_o god_n 4._o cruelty_n to_o soul_n 5._o and_o unthankfulness_n for_o great_a mercy_n if_o any_o of_o we_o shall_v desert_v our_o undertake_a office_n yea_o though_o a_o silence_v diocesan_n shall_v forbid_v we_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o unjust_o sacrilege_n desert_n p._n 25_o 30._o q._n 13._o if_o ruler_n may_v silence_v the_o faithful_a minister_n of_o christ_n who_o know_v where_o to_o bound_v his_o obedience_n to_o such_o silencer_n if_o a_o 1000_o or_o 2000_o faithful_a minister_n must_v cease_v preach_v when_o so_o forbid_v why_o not_o 3000_o why_o not_o 4000_o if_o half_o a_o kingdom_n can_v you_o satisfy_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o other_o half_a that_o they_o must_v not_o do_v so_o too_o and_o so_o all_o christian_a kingdom_n conform_v to_o muscovy_n when_o the_o prince_n command_v it_o and_o if_o a_o 1000_o or_o 2000_o or_o 3000_o parish_n must_v choose_v the_o apparent_a hazard_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o refuse_v such_o help_n as_o experience_n certify_v we_o they_o great_o need_v in_o obedience_n to_o man_n why_o must_v not_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o parish_n do_v so_o
so_o far_o without_o such_o cost_n and_o pain_n and_o loss_n of_o time_n as_o will_v deprive_v they_o of_o the_o benefit_n 2._o when_o parish_n be_v so_o great_a that_o the_o allow_v pastor_n can_v preach_v to_o half_a or_o a_o four_o or_o ten_o part_n and_o can_v visit_v half_o the_o sick_a etc._n etc._n 3._o where_o the_o allow_a pastor_n be_v so_o slothful_a or_o proud_a that_o they_o will_v not_o condescend_v to_o such_o office_n of_o personal_a help_n as_o the_o people_n have_v need_n of_o especial_o to_o the_o poor_a sort_n 4._o where_o they_o be_v young_a raw_a or_o ignorant_a unable_a to_o counsel_v people_n as_o their_o necessity_n require_v in_o order_n to_o their_o salvation_n 5._o where_o they_o be_v so_o profane_a and_o malignant_a that_o if_o poor_a people_n come_v to_o they_o with_o case_n of_o conscience_n or_o for_o counsel_n what_o they_o must_v do_v to_o be_v save_v they_o will_v but_o deride_v they_o and_o will_v make_v they_o believe_v that_o to_o be_v solicitous_a about_o salvation_n and_o afraid_a of_o sin_v and_o serious_o godly_a be_v but_o to_o be_v hypocrite_n melancholy_a or_o mad._n 6._o where_o they_o be_v heretical_a and_o not_o to_o be_v trust_v in_o point_n of_o faith_n when_o in_o any_o of_o these_o case_n the_o people_n or_o part_n of_o they_o be_v deprive_v of_o that_o pastoral_n help_v which_o their_o necessity_n require_v and_o god_n command_v whether_o may_v they_o not_o seek_v it_o where_o they_o can_v best_o have_v it_o ib._n p._n 100_o 101_o 102._o whether_o many_o soul_n be_v not_o like_a to_o be_v feed_v or_o famish_a and_o consequent_o to_o live_v or_o die_v as_o nonconformist_n do_v their_o duty_n or_o neglect_v it_o sacril_n desert_n p._n 84._o and_o whether_o if_o the_o poor_a be_v famish_v about_o we_o any_o law_n of_o man_n can_v disoblige_v we_o from_o relieve_v they_o ib._n p._n 85._o q._n 57_o if_o they_o that_o be_v vow_v to_o the_o ministry_n be_v bind_v to_o exercise_v the_o ministry_n and_o otherwise_o will_v be_v sacrilegious_a and_o cruel_a to_o soul_n can_v they_o preach_v without_o auditor_n and_o can_v those_o auditor_n be_v no_o congregation_n ib._n p._n 70._o q._n 58._o where_o both_o the_o eject_v and_o impose_v minister_n be_v fit_a person_n whether_o may_v not_o the_o people_n take_v they_o both_o conjunct_o for_o their_o pastor_n each_o administer_a to_o the_o same_o church_n according_a to_o their_o various_a liberty_n and_o capacity_n ib._n p._n 11._o q._n 59_o if_o conformist_n general_o will_v set_v themselves_o to_o preach_v and_o pray_v in_o a_o sound_n and_o serious_a holy_a manner_n and_o encourage_v and_o promote_v piety_n in_o the_o people_n and_o willing_o accept_v of_o all_o the_o help_v they_o can_v get_v here_o if_o they_o endeavour_v to_o do_v god_n and_o his_o church_n more_o service_n than_o those_o that_o go_v before_o they_o whether_o they_o will_v not_o be_v more_o honour_v at_o least_o by_o the_o better_a sort_n and_o that_o deserve_o than_o ever_o they_o must_v look_v to_o be_v for_o rigidness_n about_o ceremony_n etc._n etc._n whether_o godliness_n be_v not_o that_o which_o godly_a people_n most_o care_n for_o ibid._n p._n 126._o q._n 60._o whether_o will_v they_o have_v people_n teach_v reform_a save_v or_o not_o if_o yea_o will_v they_o not_o have_v necessary_a help_n to_o do_v it_o if_o not_o be_v such_o fit_a to_o be_v minister_n of_o christ_n and_o do_v that_o man_n true_o know_v what_o it_o be_v to_o be_v a_o minister_n or_o a_o christian_a that_o perceive_v not_o a_o necessity_n of_o help_n if_o he_o can_v have_v it_o ibid._n p._n 129._o and_o if_o thing_n in_o england_n be_v once_o bring_v to_o that_o pass_n that_o real_o our_o labour_n will_v be_v unnecessary_a in_o the_o judgement_n of_o those_o that_o be_v not_o infidel_n ignorant_n or_o malignant_a enemy_n of_o a_o holy_a life_n whether_o need_v any_o fear_n come_v to_o loss_n if_o they_o be_v bind_v for_o we_o that_o we_o will_v present_o gratify_v all_o that_o desire_v our_o silence_n or_o banishment_n rather_o than_o trouble_v man_n with_o needless_a work_n ib._n p._n 134._o q._n 61._o whether_o be_v it_o the_o paucity_n of_o ignorant_a and_o ungodly_a soul_n or_o the_o great_a number_n ability_n zeal_n and_o diligence_n of_o the_o conformist_n that_o make_v the_o labour_n of_o other_o needless_a or_o what_o be_v their_o thought_n of_o soul_n of_o sin_n of_o repentance_n of_o holiness_n and_o of_o their_o own_o sufficiency_n and_o labour_n ib._n p._n 57_o as_o of_o old_a every_o single_a church_n have_v usual_o many_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n with_o the_o bishop_n so_o be_v it_o not_o undeniable_a that_o many_o of_o our_o parish_n have_v work_n enough_o for_o many_o minister_n and_o whether_o the_o only_a thing_n pretend_v for_o our_o present_a paucity_n be_v not_o the_o want_n of_o maintenance_n with_o the_o want_n of_o worthy_a man_n first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 227._o q._n 62._o whether_o then_o may_v it_o not_o have_v be_v expect_v of_o such_o as_o need_v and_o desire_v the_o help_n of_o their_o brethren_n that_o long_o ere_o this_o they_o shall_v have_v petition_v ruler_n for_o the_o liberty_n of_o their_o ministry_n when_o all_o know_v that_o there_o be_v no_o hope_n their_o own_o petition_v shall_v have_v success_n whether_o may_v they_o not_o have_v humble_o acquaint_v our_o ruler_n that_o all_o our_o labour_n conjoin_v be_v too_o little_a that_o they_o need_v our_o help_n and_o the_o ignorant_a our_o teach_v that_o their_o judgement_n be_v our_o ministry_n be_v more_o necessary_a than_o our_o personal_a conformity_n and_o whether_o shall_v not_o minister_n of_o all_o man_n have_v be_v most_o sensible_a of_o the_o church_n breach_n loss_n and_o danger_n and_o most_o compassionate_a over_o people_n soul_n sacril_n desert_n p._n 135._o and_o whether_o have_v they_o not_o heal_v all_o our_o breach_n if_o they_o have_v petion_v and_o prevail_v but_o for_o these_o two_o thing_n viz._n 1._o that_o the_o door_n of_o entrance_n may_v not_o have_v be_v bar_v by_o any_o other_o subscription_n profession_n or_o oath_n than_o what_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n till_o the_o exaltation_n of_o the_o papacy_n for_o 600_o year_n beside_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n and_o supremacy_n and_o the_o subscribe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o 39_o article_n according_a to_o the_o 13_o of_o queen_n elizabeth_n 2._o that_o those_o so_o subscribe_v who_o dare_v not_o use_v the_o liturgy_n and_o ceremony_n may_v have_v leave_n to_o preach_v in_o the_o church_n which_o use_v they_o under_o law_n which_o shall_v restrain_v they_o from_o all_o unpeaceable_a opposition_n to_o what_o they_o dare_v not_o use_v or_o to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n ibid._n p._n 136_o 137._o and_o what_o but_o a_o spirit_n of_o envy_n or_o a_o carnal_a interest_n cross_n to_o the_o interest_n of_o christ_n and_o man_n salvation_n shall_v grudge_v at_o their_o preach_v while_o they_o be_v responsible_a for_o all_o they_o say_v or_o do_v amiss_o first_o plea_n etc._n etc._n p._n 249._o q._n 63._o whether_o the_o accuser_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n who_o feign_v strange_a thing_n of_o they_o relate_v to_o doctrine_n and_o government_n which_o they_o do_v not_o own_o do_v not_o 1._o hereby_o render_v they_o contemptible_a and_o odious_a as_o brainsick_a person_n who_o keep_v up_o a_o divide_v faction_n in_o spite_n of_o the_o light_n and_o obligation_n of_o the_o common_a principle_n of_o humanity_n and_o society_n 2._o and_o do_v they_o not_o hereby_o imprint_v the_o stamp_n of_o satan_n viz._n the_o hatred_n of_o their_o brethren_n on_o the_o mind_n of_o such_o hearer_n as_o will_v believe_v they_o and_o receive_v the_o impress_n 3._o and_o do_v they_o not_o hereby_o fill_v family_n city_n and_o country_n with_o all_o that_o spawn_n of_o ugly_a sin_n which_o be_v the_o genuine_a fruit_n of_o such_o hatred_n and_o contempt_n and_o keep_v man_n also_o from_o repentance_n for_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o have_v say_v or_o do_v how_o cruel_o soever_o against_o such_o minister_n and_o other_o that_o be_v represent_v as_o so_o odious_a to_o they_o 4._o and_o do_v they_o not_o hereby_o fortify_v the_o people_n soul_n against_o receive_v convert_v or_o edify_a instruction_n by_o such_o accuse_a minister_n 5._o and_o do_v they_o not_o thus_o furnish_v papist_n infidel_n and_o other_o adversary_n with_o matter_n of_o accusation_n against_o one_o part_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n judgement_n of_o nonconformist_n in_o second_o plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 21_o 22._o and_o whether_o be_v it_o not_o diabolical_a for_o any_o to_o be_v angry_a if_o as_o we_o have_v opportunity_n we_o so_o fâ—r_v undeceive_v the_o people_n as_o to_o acquaint_v they_o with_o our_o