of_o baptism_n be_v so_o far_o join_v with_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o and_o by_o they_o bring_v forth_o child_n to_o god_n so_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n be_v still_o in_o some_o sort_n a_o part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n but_o no_o otherwise_o than_o other_o society_n of_o heretic_n be_v in_o that_o it_o retain_v the_o profession_n of_o some_o part_n of_o heavenly_a truth_n and_o minister_v the_o true_a sacrament_n of_o baptism_n to_o the_o salvation_n of_o the_o soul_n of_o many_o thousand_o infant_n we_o must_v acknowledge_v even_o heretic_n themselves_o to_o be_v though_o a_o maim_a part_n yet_o a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a say_v the_o judicious_a hooker_n 1._o eccl._n pol._n l._n 3._o §._o 1._o if_o the_o father_n do_v any_o where_o say_v he_o as_o oftentimes_o they_o do_v make_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o her_o company_n opposite_a they_o be_v to_o be_v construe_v as_o separate_a heretic_n not_o altogether_o from_o the_o company_n of_o believer_n but_o from_o the_o fellowship_n of_o sound_a believer_n last_o they_o also_o do_v assert_v that_o a_o idolatrous_a church_n may_v yet_o continue_v to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n visible_a lo_o say_v the_o romanist_n 65._o reconcil_n p._n 64_o 65._o we_o be_v of_o the_o true_a visible_a church_n why_o then_o forsake_v ans_fw-fr alas_o poor_a soul_n say_v bishop_n hall_n do_v they_o not_o know_v that_o hypocrite_n lewd_a person_n reprobate_n be_v no_o less_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n what_o gain_v they_o by_o this_o but_o a_o deep_a damnation_n to_o what_o purpose_n do_v the_o jew_n cry_v the_o temple_n of_o the_o lord_n whilst_o they_o despit_v the_o lord_n of_o that_o temple_n they_o be_v of_o the_o viâ—â—â—le_a church_n but_o shameful_o idolatrous_a in_o practice_n our_o saviour_n say_v mr._n hooker_n supra_fw-la ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la compare_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n to_o a_o net_n which_o gather_v together_o good_a fish_n and_o bad_a and_o to_o a_o field_n where_o tare_n manifest_o know_v and_o see_v of_o all_o man_n do_v grow_v intermingle_v with_o good_a corn_n and_o even_o so_o shall_v continue_v to_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o world_n when_o the_o people_n of_o god_n worship_v the_o calf_n in_o the_o wilderness_n when_o they_o adore_v the_o brazen_a serpent_n when_o they_o bow_v the_o knee_n to_o baal_n and_o serve_v the_o god_n of_o the_o nation_n when_o they_o burn_v incense_n and_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o idol_n true_a it_o be_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n be_v most_o fierce_o inflame_v against_o they_o and_o they_o be_v forsake_v of_o god_n in_o respect_n of_o that_o singular_a mercy_n wherewith_o he_o kind_o embrace_v his_o faithful_a child_n howbeit_o retain_v the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o the_o holy_a seal_n of_o his_o covenant_n the_o sheep_n of_o his_o visible_a flock_n they_o continue_v even_o in_o the_o depth_n of_o their_o disobedience_n and_o rebellion_n wherefore_o among_o they_o odd_a always_o have_v a_o church_n not_o only_o because_o be_v have_v thousand_o who_o never_o bow_v the_o knee_n to_o baal_v but_o even_o they_o who_o knee_n be_v bow_v to_o baal_n be_v also_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n of_o the_o same_o judgement_n be_v bishop_n davenant_n dr._n primrose_n zanchy_a and_o episcopius_n in_o the_o forecited_n place_n §_o vii_o now_o to_o admit_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v in_o the_o large_a sense_n a_o true_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n serve_v no_o design_n of_o popery_n and_o be_v sufficient_a to_o justify_v the_o ordination_n and_o succession_n of_o the_o clergy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o i._o admit_v the_o first_o reformer_n of_o our_o church_n receive_v their_o ordination_n from_o those_o bishop_n which_o be_v themselves_o guilty_a of_o heresy_n or_o schism_n or_o both_o and_o therefore_o no_o true_a live_a member_n of_o christ_n body_n nor_o any_o other_o way_n to_o be_v repute_v member_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a than_o schismatic_n and_o heretic_n may_v be_v this_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o justify_v our_o ordination_n and_o succession_n and_o our_o entrance_n into_o the_o visible_a church_n by_o baptism_n confer_v by_o they_o for_o of_o the_o baptism_n of_o heretic_n without_o exception_n and_o therefore_o of_o those_o heretic_n who_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n have_v be_v esteem_v idolater_n 4._o sess_n 7._o cap._n de_fw-fr bapt._n can._n 4._o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o her_o trent_n council_n have_v determine_v that_o it_o be_v valid_a and_o have_v pronounce_v a_o anathema_n on_o those_o who_o say_v the_o contrary_n jew_n heretic_n 24._o part_n 2._o cap._n ii_o sect._n 24._o and_o infidel_n may_v confer_v true_a baptism_n say_v the_o roman_a catechism_n as_o many_o ancient_a father_n and_o decree_n of_o council_n teach_v particular_o the_o general_n council_n of_o constantinople_n and_o the_o six_o general_n council_n hold_v in_o trullo_n the_o council_n hold_v at_o florence_n and_o the_o lateran_n council_n moreover_o that_o the_o ordination_n of_o heretic_n be_v valid_a 1._o preface_n to_o his_o answer_n to_o several_a treat_n sess_n 7._o can._n 9.23_o can._n 4._o cap._n 68_o act._n 1._o the_o learned_a dr._n stillingfleet_n have_v large_o prove_v from_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o trent_n council_n from_o the_o code_n of_o canon_n of_o the_o african_a church_n from_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o second_o nicene_n council_n from_o the_o general_n reception_n of_o this_o doctrine_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o as_o morinus_n witness_v 12._o de_fw-fr sacris_fw-la ord._n part_n 3_o exercit_fw-la 5._o c._n 1._o n._n 12._o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o validity_n of_o order_n confer_v by_o heretic_n have_v only_o obtain_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n during_o the_o last_o four_o century_n to_o which_o i_o add_v the_o definition_n of_o the_o first_o nicene_n council_n in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o cathari_n 68_o can._n 8._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d con._n nicen._n 2._o act._n 1._o p._n 68_o or_o the_o novatian_a heretic_n that_o they_o return_v to_o the_o catholic_n and_o apostolic_a church_n shall_v remain_v in_o that_o order_n of_o clergy_n in_o which_o they_o be_v only_o receive_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o benediction_n and_o reconciliation_n and_o that_o if_o any_o of_o they_o be_v find_v either_o in_o village_n or_o city_n to_o be_v the_o only_a bishop_n that_o be_v there_o ordain_v they_o shall_v continue_v in_o that_o same_o rank_n whereas_o concern_v the_o pauliani_n who_o as_o st._n austin_n think_v 44._o de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la cap._n 44._o do_v not_o observe_v the_o essential_o of_o true_a baptism_n the_o council_n do_v determine_v that_o if_o any_o of_o they_o shall_v be_v find_v among_o the_o clergy_n they_o shall_v be_v rebaptise_v and_o then_o receive_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o ordination_n by_o some_o bishop_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n 19_o can._n 19_o so_o that_o the_o ordination_n of_o the_o novatian_a heretic_n who_o be_v very_o numerous_a and_o who_o bishop_n have_v continue_v in_o a_o long_a succession_n at_o constantinople_n ephesus_n 11._o socrat._v hist_o eccles_n l._n 2._o cap._n 38._o p._n 114._o l._n 7._o cap._n 11._o at_o cyzicum_n and_o in_o most_o other_o place_n be_v by_o this_o great_a and_o holy_a synod_n here_o pronounce_v valid_a and_o they_o who_o be_v ordain_v by_o their_o bishop_n be_v not_o receive_v into_o the_o church_n as_o greek_n or_o degrade_v into_o the_o rank_n of_o layman_n whereas_o by_o reason_n of_o some_o fundamentla_fw-fr error_n in_o the_o case_n of_o baptism_n it_o be_v determine_v that_o the_o pauliani_n who_o be_v of_o their_o clergy_n shall_v be_v by_o baptism_n admit_v first_o into_o the_o church_n and_o then_o by_o ordination_n of_o the_o bishop_n into_o the_o number_n of_o the_o clergy_n the_o judgement_n of_o st._n austin_n be_v so_o clear_a in_o this_o point_n that_o we_o need_v nothing_o more_o to_o evidence_n the_o faith_n and_o practice_n which_o then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n for_o that_o the_o ordination_n of_o heretic_n be_v valid_a he_o both_o assert_n against_o the_o donatist_n and_o prove_v by_o these_o two_o medium_n 1._o that_o their_o baptism_n be_v valid_a according_a to_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n their_o ordination_n must_v be_v deem_v so_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n 13._o lib_fw-la 2._o contra_n epist_n parm._n c._n 13._o say_v he_o that_o they_o who_o can_v lose_v their_o baptism_n shall_v lose_v the_o power_n of_o give_v baptism_n to_o other_o for_o they_o both_o of_o they_o be_v sacrament_n both_o of_o they_o be_v give_v by_o consecration_n one_o when_o the_o person_n be_v baptise_a the_o other_o when_o he_o be_v ordain_v and_o therefore_o in_o the_o catholic_n church_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a
have_v not_o just_a cause_n to_o say_v as_o do_v our_o saviour_n in_o another_o case_n this_o day_n these_o word_n have_v be_v fulfil_v in_o our_o ear_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o discern_a reader_n to_o consider_v let_v it_o be_v therefore_o manifest_v that_o our_o church_n have_v err_v in_o pass_v of_o this_o heavy_a sentence_n on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o in_o her_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n and_o her_o mass_n worship_n she_o commit_v idolatry_n or_o else_o it_o must_v be_v grant_v that_o we_o stand_v oblige_v in_o interest_n and_o duty_n to_o suppress_v that_o worship_n and_o whereas_o some_o who_o be_v call_v mamber_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n rather_o choose_v to_o say_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v in_o this_o worship_n guilty_a of_o superstition_n than_o idolatry_n i_o hope_v they_o only_o choose_v to_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n which_o we_o do_v in_o a_o mild_a phrase_n for_o they_o well_o know_v that_o superstition_n both_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o in_o the_o language_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v signify_v idolatry_n the_o superstitious_a person_n 701._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n strom._n l._n 7._o p._n 701._o say_v hesychius_n be_v a_o worshipper_n of_o idol_n a_o idolater_n he_o say_v clemens_n be_v the_o superstitious_a man_n who_o be_v a_o worshipper_n of_o demon_n and_o who_o advance_v wood_n and_o stone_n and_o spirit_n into_o the_o number_n of_o the_o go_n 287._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d v._o 16._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d prepar_fw-la evang._n l._n 1._o c_o 5._o p._n 14._o b._n p._n 16._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contr._n cell_n l._n 6._o p._n 287._o and_o when_o st._n paul_n perceive_v that_o athens_n be_v a_o city_n full_a of_o idol_n he_o cry_v out_o i_o perceive_v you_o be_v too_o superstitious_a act._n xvii_o 22._o the_o heathen_a worship_n be_v by_o eusebius_n style_v the_o superstitious_a error_n of_o the_o old_a idolatry_n and_o origen_n declare_v that_o the_o philosophy_n of_o plato_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o divert_v man_n from_o that_o which_o christian_n call_v idolatry_n and_o other_o superstition_n we_o ought_v i_o humble_o conceive_v to_o make_v this_o charitable_a construction_n of_o their_o word_n who_o have_v subscribe_v and_o yield_v their_o assent_n and_o consent_n to_o that_o rubric_n after_o the_o communion_n which_o speak_v thus_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v still_o in_o their_o very_a natural_a substance_n and_o therefore_o may_v not_o be_v adore_v for_o that_o be_v idolatry_n to_o be_v abhor_v of_o all_o faithful_a christian_n who_o second_o do_v own_o the_o canon_n and_o constitution_n of_o the_o convocation_n hold_v a._n d._n 1640._o and_o publish_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o our_o royal_a martyr_n charles_n the_o first_o for_o the_o due_a observation_n of_o they_o and_o which_o inform_v we_o that_o at_o the_o time_n of_o reform_v this_o church_n from_o that_o gross_a superstition_n of_o popery_n it_o be_v careful_o provide_v that_o all_o mean_n shall_v be_v use_v to_o root_v out_o of_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o people_n both_o the_o inclination_n thereunto_o and_o memory_n thereof_o especial_o of_o the_o idolatry_n commit_v in_o the_o mass_n for_o which_o cause_n all_o popish_a altar_n be_v demolish_v who_o three_o do_v affirm_v that_o the_o first_o and_o second_o book_n of_o homily_n which_o above_o twenty_o time_n do_v charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o gross_a idolatry_n 35._o hom._n of_o the_o peril_n of_o idolatry_n hom._n of_o the_o sacrament_n part_v the_o first_o art_n 35._o and_o in_o particular_a do_v mention_v the_o gross_a idolatry_n of_o mummish_a massing_n contain_v a_o godly_a and_o a_o wholesome_a doctrine_n who_o fourthly_a 28._o art_n 28._o do_v surscribe_v and_o hold_v that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o by_o christ_n ordinance_n reserve_v carry_v about_o lift_v up_o and_o worship_v and_o therefore_o must_v believe_v that_o when_o in_o their_o procession_n it_o be_v worship_v by_o the_o romanist_n as_o god_n christ_n be_v not_o present_a there_o and_o so_o the_o creature_n only_o be_v then_o adore_v as_o a_o god_n and_o this_o be_v all_o which_o i_o thing_n meet_v to_o say_v by_o way_n of_o preface_n to_o this_o little_a book_n errata_fw-la in_o the_o book_n page_n 14._o line_n 31._o which_o read_v we_o p._n 30._o l._n 8._o del_o that_o p._n 36._o l._n 9_o which_o r._n with_o p._n 62._o l._n 15._o the_o r._n this_o so_o p._n 66._o l._n 20._o p._n 126._o l._n 24._o p._n 83._o l._n 14._o add_v 3_o p._n 113._o l._n 4._o add_v such_o p._n 130._o l._n 28._o tarusius_n r._n tarasius_n p._n 113._o l._n 1._o deacon_n r._n demon_n p._n 142._o l._n 22._o their_o r._n there_o in_o the_o margin_n p._n 75._o consentiebant_fw-la deal_n con_fw-mi p_o 84._o &_o deinceps_fw-la brienw_n r._n brierw_n p._n 91._o graeca_n r._n graecus_n p._n 101._o quam_fw-la r._n quia_fw-la p._n 128._o qua_fw-la r._n quia_fw-la in_o the_o appendix_n p._n 59_o l._n 12._o their_o r._n her_o p._n 63._o l._n 20._o by_o r._n be_v p._n 67._o l._n 21._o their_o r._n your_o so_o p._n 97._o l._n 14._o p._n 84._o l._n 18._o about_o r._n but_o p._n 92._o l._n 18._o to_o r._n do_v p._n 95._o l._n 19_o add_v he_o say_v p._n 98._o l._n 20._o charter_n r._n chartres_n p._n 106._o l._n 21._o these_o r._n those_o l._n 22._o seem_v r._n seem_v l._n 25._o none_o r._n not_o p._n 115._o l._n 30._o add_v 4._o p._n 118._o l._n 28._o dessius_fw-la r._n lessius_fw-la p._n 119._o l._n 1._o add_v 7._o l._n 2._o by_o r._n of_o p._n 122._o l._n 17._o to_o r._n of_o l._n 32_o if_o r._n it_o marg._n p._n 78._o verb_n r._n urbe_fw-la chap._n i._n the_o content_n the_o introduction_n §_o i._o the_o trent_n council_n teach_v that_o the_o host_n or_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v with_o latria_n as_o be_v true_o god_n §_o ii_o and_o yet_o this_o council_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o by_o christ_n precept_n the_o communicant_n do_v eat_v and_o some_o of_o they_o do_v drink_v the_o sacrament_n §_o ii_o heathen_n jew_n christian_n do_v all_o pronounce_v it_o the_o extremity_n of_o folly_n to_o say_v or_o think_v that_o any_o man_n can_v eat_v his_o god_n §_o iii_o the_o trent_n council_n teach_v that_o christ_n be_v true_o sacrifice_v by_o their_o priest_n §_o iv_o to_o the_o ancient_a father_n nothing_o do_v seem_v more_o brutish_a and_o absurd_a than_o to_o worship_n as_o a_o god_n what_o man_n do_v sacrifice_n or_o sacrifice_n what_o they_o do_v worship_n as_o a_o god_n §_o v._o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v christ_n true_o god_n according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n whatsoever_o true_o be_v affirm_v of_o it_o must_v also_o true_o be_v affirm_v of_o our_o bless_a lord_n §_o vi_o the_o prophet_n and_o the_o father_n deride_v the_o heathen_a go_n 1_n because_o they_o be_v carry_v upon_o man_n shoulder_n they_o can_v go_v and_o if_o they_o fall_v they_o can_v rise_v up_o again_o §_o vii_o 2._o because_o they_o may_v be_v carry_v captive_a and_o be_v not_o able_a to_o deliver_v or_o preserve_v themselves_o §_o viii_o 3._o because_o they_o need_v to_o be_v preserve_v by_o officer_n appoint_v for_o that_o purpose_n under_o lock_n and_o key_n and_o to_o be_v vindicate_v by_o their_o own_o votary_n §_o ix_o 4._o because_o in_o time_n of_o war_n and_o danger_n their_o priest_n do_v hide_v they_o and_o sometime_o bury_v they_o in_o the_o earth_n §_o x._o 5._o because_o they_o be_v expose_v to_o injury_n of_o fire_n and_o consume_v by_o it_o §_o xi_o 6._o because_o they_o be_v expose_v to_o rust_v and_o moth_n to_o corruption_n and_o the_o injury_n of_o the_o wether_n §_o xii_o 7._o because_o they_o seem_v to_o be_v contemn_v by_o those_o very_a brute_n who_o dung_v and_o gnaw_v upon_o they_o etc._n etc._n §_o xiii_o upon_o all_o these_o account_v the_o host_n or_o roman_a god_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o like_a derision_n from_o §_o vii_o to_o the_o xiii_o §_o i_o the_o holy_a prophet_n make_v it_o their_o business_n to_o represent_v those_o deity_n the_o heathen_n worship_v as_o impotent_a and_o lie_a vanity_n and_o thing_n most_o worthy_a of_o derision_n and_o contempt_n but_o most_o unworthy_a to_o be_v venerate_v and_o thence_o conclude_v that_o that_o they_o who_o pay_v their_o homage_n to_o they_o be_v person_n void_a of_o understanding_n and_o consideration_n and_o give_v up_o to_o a_o judicial_a blindness_n this_o be_v so_o large_o represent_v by_o they_o upon_o two_o account_n which_o more_o immediate_o do_v respect_v the_o jewish_a nation_n 1._o that_o when_o they_o be_v to_o go_v into_o captivity_n and_o to_o be_v mix_v with_o those_o heathen_n by_o who_o these_o foolish_a deity_n be_v
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