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make_v we_o heretical_a sect._n 22._o 64._o but_o the_o doctor_n pursue_v this_o argument_n close_o and_o endeavour_n to_o prove_v that_o when_o the_o king_n and_o priest_n join_v together_o it_o have_v a_o strange_a influence_n upon_o the_o people_n for_o good_a or_o bad_a answ_n what_o then_o must_v the_o people_n therefore_o of_o necessity_n be_v good_a or_o bad_a according_a as_o the_o king_n and_o priest_n be_v can_v god_n grace_v overcome_v this_o influence_n and_o preserve_v the_o people_n from_o infection_n but_o you_o say_v when_o king_n ahaz_n and_o urijah_n the_o priest_n profess_v i_o dolatry_n though_o many_o good_a man_n be_v resident_a among_o they_o yet_o be_v the_o city_n and_o people_n account_v heretical_a answ_n first_o it_o appear_v not_o by_o the_o text_n that_o they_o be_v so_o account_v second_o if_o they_o be_v account_v heretical_a do_v it_o herefore_o necessary_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v so_o do_v truth_n and_o falsehood_n depend_v on_o the_o opinion_n 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