Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
england_n church_n particular_a universal_a 2,763 5 9.8525 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A27046 A third defence of the cause of peace proving 1. the need of our concord, 2. the impossibility of it, on the terms of the present impositions against the accusations and storms of, viz., Mr. John Hinckley, a nameless impleader, a nameless reflector, or Speculum, &c., Mr. John Cheny's second accusation, Mr. Roger L'Strange, justice, &c., the Dialogue between the Pope and a fanatic, J. Varney's phanatic Prophesie / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1681 (1681) Wing B1419; ESTC R647 161,764 297

There are 16 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

respective_o p._n 7._o some_o be_v as_o colonel_n of_o regiment_n other_o as_o captain_n of_o troop_n the_o body_n be_v but_o one_o the_o member_n many_o p._n 13._o the_o new_a testament_n say_v the_o church_n of_o galatia_n gal._n 1._o 2._o the_o church_n of_o judea_n asia_n yet_o one_o body_n all_o the_o faithful_a make_v one_o heavenly_a city_n one_o church_n of_o the_o first_o bear_v so_o that_o god_n church_n on_o earth_n be_v many_o church_n and_o yet_o but_o one_o church_n do_v you_o not_o think_v now_o that_o we_o be_v agree_v but_o hear_v he_o judge_v himself_o p._n 15._o i_o will_v show_v one_o common_a error_n or_o mistake_n in_o multitude_n of_o our_o able_a divine_n that_o those_o we_o call_v particular_a church_n be_v count_v part_n and_o member_n of_o the_o church_n universal_a this_o i_o deny_v mr._n baxter_n make_v the_o church_n of_o england_n or_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o be_v a_o integral_a part_n of_o the_o church_n universal_a as_o a_o troop_n of_o a_o army_n or_o a_o city_n of_o a_o kingdom_n so_o the_o independent_o i_o overthrow_v this_o error_n by_o this_o argument_n one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n can_v be_v both_o a_o body_n and_o a_o member_n a_o whole_a and_o a_o part_n a_o society_n and_o one_o single_a person_n but_o that_o which_o we_o call_v a_o single_a or_o particular_a church_n be_v not_o a_o member_n but_o a_o body_n it_o be_v not_o a_o limb_n or_o part_n of_o a_o church_n but_o a_o whole_a and_o entire_a church_n it_o have_v a_o whole_a within_o it_o london_n be_v not_o a_o member_n of_o england_n but_o a_o city_n and_o aggregation_n of_o member_n it_o be_v no_o less_o than_o a_o flat_a contradiction_n in_o term_n what_o dr._n ames_n say_v medul_n l._n 1._o c._n 32._o that_o a_o particular_a church_n est_fw-la membrum_fw-la ex_fw-la aggregatione_fw-la variorum_fw-la membrorum_fw-la singulorum_fw-la compositum_fw-la contrary_a to_o common_a reason_n and_o plain_a scripture_n p._n 18._o a_o bare_a member_n in_o the_o body_n have_v no_o authority_n but_o act_v by_o mere_a natural_a life_n and_o appetite_n and_o be_v not_o endue_v with_o rational_a authority_n nor_o can_v be_v capable_a of_o any_o that_o which_o we_o call_v a_o single_a church_n be_v a_o catholic_n or_o universal_a church_n it_o have_v a_o universal_a head_n to_o be_v a_o christian_n be_v to_o be_v of_o a_o universal_a impartial_a spirit_n where_o there_o be_v a_o all_o there_o be_v a_o universal_a but_o every_o single_a church_n have_v a_o all_o within_o it_o the_o pastor_n and_o all_o his_o flock_n the_o church_n universal_a and_o particular_a do_v only_o differ_v as_o to_o place_n and_o number_n a_o church_n of_o godly_a minister_n and_o people_n in_o france_n holland_n and_o england_n differ_v but_o as_o to_o place_n every_o church_n of_o christian_n must_v needs_o be_v a_o church_n universal_a not_o a_o limb_n or_o member_n of_o another_o church_n but_o a_o true_a body_n or_o entire_a christian_a society_n p._n 20._o christ_n body_n be_v one_o not_o as_o one_o be_v oppose_v to_o multitude_n but_o to_o division_n contrariety_n and_o destruction_n §_o 4._o p._n 21._o this_o lead_v i_o to_o show_v the_o unsoundness_n of_o another_o part_n of_o mr._n baxters_n doctrine_n and_o some_o other_o with_o he_o he_o say_v there_o be_v two_o essential_o different_a policy_n or_o form_n of_o church-government_n of_o christ_n institution_n never_o to_o be_v alter_v by_o man_n 1._o the_o form_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o head_v by_o christ_n himself_o which_o all_o christian_n own_o as_o they_o be_v christian_n in_o their_o baptism_n 2._o particular_a church_n head_v by_o their_o particular_a bishop_n or_o pastor_n and_o be_v part_n of_o the_o universal_a as_o a_o troop_n of_o a_o army_n or_o a_o city_n of_o a_o kingdom_n and_o he_o define_v the_o universal_a church_n to_o be_v the_o universality_n of_o baptise_a christian_n head_v by_o christ_n himself_o these_o his_o say_n contain_v many_o error_n i_o will_v first_o note_v they_o out_o and_o then_o confute_v and_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v error_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o error_n in_o the_o art_n of_o define_v to_o put_v in_o those_o word_n head_v by_o christ_n himself_o 2._o it_o be_v another_o error_n to_o define_v the_o universal_a church_n without_o guide_n and_o minister_n as_o one_o essential_a constituent_a part_n 3._o it_o be_v another_o error_n to_o say_v that_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o church_n particular_a differ_v essential_o 1._o it_o be_v a_o error_n in_o the_o art_n of_o desine_v to_o say_v head_v by_o christ_n himself_o that_o be_v suppose_v but_o need_v not_o be_v in_o the_o definition_n he_o find_v fault_n himself_o with_o such_o a_o defect_n in_o the_o definition_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n grant_v they_o to_o be_v christian_n and_o you_o grant_v they_o own_o christ_n 2._o it_o be_v a_o error_n to_o define_v the_o universal_a church_n without_o pastor_n so_o do_v the_o assembly_n confession_n and_o mr._n hudson_n his_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n without_o pastor_n be_v as_o if_o he_o define_v a_o live_a healthful_a man_n without_o a_o stomach_n liver_n or_o lung_n p._n 24._o 3._o if_o there_o be_v a_o essential_a difference_n between_o church_n and_o church_n what_o then_o be_v the_o difference_n between_o the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n heaven_n and_o hell_n the_o righteous_a and_o the_o wicked_a how_o can_v any_o man_n know_v which_o be_v the_o right_a church_n we_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a to_o confute_v popery_n nor_o infidelity_n by_o this_o doctrine_n for_o this_o doctrine_n suppose_v two_o essential_o different_a church_n the_o universal_a church_n without_o pastor_n and_o of_o this_o christ_n be_v head_n himself_o particular_a church_n of_o which_o christ_n be_v no_o head_n but_o particular_a pastor_n be_v the_o head_n by_o this_o doctrine_n the_o same_o thing_n shall_v be_v contrary_a to_o itself_o christ_n church_n in_o this_o world_n be_v but_o one_o and_o can_v one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n have_v two_o different_a essence_n being_n and_o definition_n quae_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la uno_fw-la tertio_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o the_o church_n universal_a and_o particular_a agree_v in_o uno_fw-la tertio_fw-la they_o stand_v on_o one_o foundation_n be_v direct_v by_o one_o rule_n quicken_v by_o one_o spirit_n a_o addition_n of_o homogeneous_a particle_n make_v no_o essential_a difference_n it_o will_v necessary_o infer_v that_o god_n be_v contrary_a to_o himself_o and_o that_o the_o essentiate_a principle_n of_o church_n holiness_n order_n and_o government_n be_v black_a and_o white_a darkness_n and_o light_n p._n 25._o if_o this_o opinion_n stand_v religion_n can_v stand_v two_o essential_o different_a form_n of_o church_n will_v infer_v two_o sort_n of_o holiness_n the_o one_o repugnant_a to_o the_o other_o yet_o subordinata_fw-la non_fw-la pugnant_fw-la if_o christ_n set_v up_o two_o repugnant_a or_o essential_o different_a church-form_n he_o be_v not_o the_o saviour_n but_o the_o deceiver_n of_o the_o world_n o_o dreadful_a §_o 5._o p._n 92._o a_o word_n more_fw-it ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la of_o that_o opinion_n that_o particular_a church_n be_v part_n of_o the_o universal_a as_o a_o troop_n be_v of_o a_o army_n or_o a_o city_n of_o a_o kingdom_n this_o be_v mr._n baxters_n opinion_n why_o then_o do_v you_o blame_v the_o turn_v all_o the_o parish-church_n into_o chapel_n and_o make_v they_o to_o be_v but_o part_n of_o the_o diocesan_n as_o a_o troop_n be_v of_o a_o army_n etc._n etc._n who_o see_v not_o that_o your_o doctrine_n do_v the_o same_o that_o you_o condemn_v etc._n etc._n if_o they_o be_v but_o part_n and_o member_n of_o another_o church_n the_o universal_a than_o they_o be_v not_o church_n it_o be_v not_o unlikely_a but_o you_o can_v find_v somewhat_o to_o say_v in_o defence_n of_o this_o your_o self-contradicting_a doctrine_n but_o i_o believe_v it_o will_v match_v your_o wit_n be_v it_o ten_o time_n more_o and_o prove_v too_o hard_o for_o you_o look_v to_o it_o if_o your_o disputation_n against_o prelacy_n stand_v down_o go_v this_o main_a assertion_n of_o you_o if_o your_o disputation_n against_o prelacy_n be_v find_v to_o have_v a_o hollow_a and_o false_a bottom_n than_o you_o have_v make_v you_o work_v for_o repentance_n you_o have_v great_o injure_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o particular_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o have_v deceive_v a_o great_a many_o look_v what_o bellarmine_n make_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v to_o all_o the_o pastor_n church_n and_o christian_n through_o the_o world_n that_o do_v you_o make_v this_o which_o you_o call_v the_o church_n universal_a for_o you_o say_v that_o particular_a church_n as_o head_v by_o their_o respective_a bishop_n and_o pastor_n be_v part_n and_o member_n of_o another_o church_n call_v the_o church_n universal_a by_o which_o assertion_n you_o set_v up_o
by_o the_o conformist_n 1._o the_o minister_n be_v even_o to_o swear_v obedience_n to_o the_o diocesane_n and_o the_o diocesane_n promise_v it_o to_o the_o archbishop_n and_o this_o be_v a_o covenant_n and_o more_o 2._o they_o be_v to_o attend_v he_o at_o visitation_n and_o otherwise_o to_o express_v their_o consent_n to_o his_o government_n which_o they_o do_v not_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o neighbour-diocesses_a 3._o the_o parishioner_n signify_v their_o consent_n to_o their_o relation_n to_o that_o particular_a church_n and_o incumbent_n by_o their_o constant_a attendance_n submission_n communion_n etc._n etc._n 4._o the_o law_n and_o canon_n command_v their_o consent_n yea_o to_o keep_v their_o own_o parish_n though_o the_o minister_n preach_v not_o at_o all_o suspending_a neighbour-minister_n that_o receive_v such_o to_o their_o communion_n that_o come_v from_o such_o a_o reader_n to_o they_o and_o the_o conformist_n say_v that_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o obey_v these_o canon_n §_o 31._o either_o parishioner_n be_v suppose_v thus_o to_o signify_v relation-consent_n to_o that_o particular_a pastor_n and_o church_n or_o not_o if_o yea_o this_o accuser_n false_o suppose_v that_o no_o church_n but_o the_o independent_o do_v so_o if_o not_o than_o he_o give_v up_o most_o of_o their_o cause_n to_o the_o brownist_n that_o say_v the_o parish-church_n be_v none_o for_o it_o be_v easy_a prove_v that_o non-consenters_a be_v none_o thus_o rash_a man_n confute_v themselves_o nay_o we_o be_v all_o silence_a for_o not_o covenant_v to_o the_o present_a frame_n of_o diocesane_n church_n and_o never_o to_o endeavour_v a_o alteration_n yet_o say_v this_o man_n it_o be_v not_o in_o any_o of_o the_o church_n unless_o independent_o neither_o explicit_a nor_o implicit_a then_o none_o shall_v so_o much_o as_o implicit_o show_v consent_n to_o the_o relation_n to_o his_o diocesane_n or_o parish-pastor_n or_o church_n §_o 32._o but_o say_v he_o to_o i_o with_o gross_a falsehood_n your_o covenant_n be_v to_o this_o effect_n you_o shall_v not_o only_o submit_v to_o i_o as_o your_o pastor_n but_o bind_v yourself_o by_o a_o particular_a antecedent_n covenant_n so_o to_o do_v you_o shall_v dwell_v in_o the_o parish_n and_o covenant_n so_o to_o do_v etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr i_o wish_v that_o though_o design_v bring_v the_o word_n covenant_n infread_a of_o consent_n into_o his_o mouth_n it_o may_v not_o so_o long_o stick_v there_o as_o to_o choke_v his_o conscience_n to_o think_v that_o any_o use_n of_o it_o be_v lawful_a where_o and_o when_o do_v i_o engage_v any_o to_o dwell_v in_o the_o parish_n if_o they_o dwell_v there_o i_o never_o hinder_v any_o from_o remove_v 2._o but_o the_o consent_v require_v be_v beforehand_o very_o true_a the_o liturgy_n bid_v man_n come_v tell_v the_o minister_n beforehand_o that_o they_o desire_v the_o communion_n shall_v i_o ask_v they_o to_o consent_v to_o their_o duty_n when_o it_o be_v past_a or_o can_v i_o know_v who_o be_v capable_a till_o i_o know_v who_o consent_v but_o say_v he_o why_o not_o à_fw-fr church-covenant_n for_o all_o other_o duty_n ans_fw-fr why_o not_o a_o marriage-covenant_n to_o make_v one_o a_o priest_n etc._n etc._n why_o not_o a_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n to_o make_v one_o a_o coblar_a etc._n etc._n consent_v necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o relation_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o consent_v to_o every_o duty_n be_v another_o which_o yet_o in_o general_a all_o christian_n shall_v promise_v sincere_o to_o perform_v must_v we_o write_v book_n against_o such_o thing_n as_o these_o §_o 33._o to_o the_o objection_n i_o be_o not_o bind_v to_o take_v every_o one_o that_o come_v into_o the_o parish_n for_o one_o of_o my_o charge_n he_o have_v no_o better_a answer_n than_o to_o tell_v we_o of_o parish-bound_n settle_v by_o law_n and_o bind_v i_o to_o do_v my_o best_a for_o all_o ans_fw-fr deceitful_o confound_a charge_v the_o genus_fw-la with_o church_n as_o if_o heathen_n and_o atheist_n and_o papist_n and_o refuser_n be_v of_o that_o church_n because_o i_o have_v a_o charge_n to_o seek_v their_o conversion_n or_o as_o if_o i_o have_v no_o special_a charge_n of_o that_o church_n 2._o he_o do_v not_o see_v that_o he_o confute_v himself_o imply_v that_o we_o must_v consent_v because_o of_o the_o law_n 3._o and_o he_o forget_v the_o many_o hundred_o year_n before_o parish-division_n §_o 34._o his_o zeal_n at_o last_o thus_o swell_v p._n 129._o i_o do_v utter_o withstand_v it_o as_o wickedness_n and_o abomination_n in_o god_n church_n i_o be_o to_o die_v and_o burn_v at_o a_o stake_n before_o i_o yield_v to_o any_o such_o thing_n you_o make_v two_o church_n two_o church-form_n as_o two_o baptism_n p._n 130._o to_o teach_v infidelity_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr let_v he_o that_o think_v he_o stand_v take_v heed_n lest_o he_o fall_v alas_o for_o the_o church_n who_o guide_n be_v no_o wise_a and_o better_a man_n and_o tender_a conscienced_a than_o he_o or_o i_o which_o ever_o be_v in_o the_o wrong_n 1._o you_o will_v make_v i_o think_v you_o be_v deep_o melancholy_a be_v it_o so_o frightful_a a_o thing_n for_o i_o to_o say_v i_o will_v be_v no_o pastor_n to_o any_o that_o consent_v not_o as_o to_o put_v you_o into_o talk_n of_o die_v and_o burn_v at_o a_o stake_n have_v the_o martyr_n be_v burn_v if_o man_n have_v be_v of_o this_o mind_n do_v you_o ever_o know_v any_o put_v to_o death_n or_o burn_v at_o a_o stake_n for_o your_o opinion_n which_o be_v like_a to_o be_v the_o burn_a party_n they_o that_o say_v we_o will_v rule_v none_o but_o consenter_n or_o volunteer_n or_o they_o that_o call_v this_o wickedness_n and_o abomination_n and_o so_o be_v for_o the_o contrary_a course_n which_o party_n have_v kill_v more_o for_o religion_n reader_n you_o see_v my_o wickedness_n and_o abomination_n chap._n v._n i_o have_v think_v to_o have_v go_v thus_o over_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o book_n but_o it_o be_v such_o stuff_n that_o my_o reason_n and_o conscience_n bid_v i_o spare_v my_o own_o and_o the_o reader_n time_n i._o he_o begin_v with_o tell_v i_o what_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v and_o all_o be_v worse_a than_o nothing_o instead_o of_o tell_v i_o what_o be_v the_o constitutive_a formal_a regent_n part_n he_o tell_v i_o of_o bishop_n pastor_n convocation_n king_n etc._n etc._n as_o if_o he_o define_v a_o man_n to_o be_v one_o that_o have_v a_o head_n eye_n liver_n stomach_n etc._n etc._n ii_o it_o grieve_v i_o to_o read_v what_o he_o say_v of_o popery_n 1._o his_o supposition_n that_o popery_n be_v sound_a if_o the_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o universal_a have_v its_o subordinate_a form_n of_o government_n under_o christ_n 2._o his_o supposition_n of_o the_o emperor_n of_o constantinople_n turn_v christian_a and_o become_v the_o universal_a prince_n and_o bishop_n of_o his_o empire_n as_o a_o lawful_a thing_n 3._o his_o supposition_n of_o the_o pope_n resign_v his_o place_n to_o st._n peter_n if_o he_o be_v alive_a etc._n etc._n 4._o his_o note_n that_o to_o claim_v but_o st._n peter_n place_n be_v not_o to_o claim_v christ_n with_o more_o such_o be_v unwise_a temptation_n to_o stranger_n to_o fear_v lest_o london-air_n have_v do_v he_o hurt_v iii_o his_o many_o word_n about_o the_o prince_n power_n to_o choose_v pastor_n for_o all_o his_o subject_n and_o that_o if_o faithful_a he_o be_v no_o christian_n that_o refuse_v to_o accept_v they_o 1._o be_v all_o a_o bare_a say_n over_o what_o he_o think_v take_v little_a or_o no_o notice_n of_o my_o discourse_n on_o that_o subject_n in_o my_o first_o plea_n where_o all_o that_o be_v against_o we_o be_v answer_v before_o and_o i_o will_v not_o repeat_v it_o 2._o and_o it_o shameful_o condemn_v his_o foresay_a condemnation_n be_v not_o consent_v then_o necessary_a to_o the_o impose_v pastor_n if_o not_o consent_v unchristen_v man_n 3._o it_o suppose_v that_o the_o political_a controversy_n whether_o the_o king_n be_v authorize_v by_o god_n to_o choose_v what_o pastoral_a guide_n all_o the_o subject_n shall_v trust_v their_o soul_n with_o any_o more_o than_o what_o tutor_n physician_n wife_n diet_n they_o shall_v take_v be_v a_o essential_a of_o christianity_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o creed_n etc._n etc._n when_o yet_o it_o be_v notorious_a that_o all_o church_n for_o most_o age_n since_o christ_n if_o not_o almost_o all_o in_o the_o world_n to_o this_o day_n be_v and_o be_v of_o the_o contrary_a mind_n and_o so_o be_v all_o unchristened_a by_o he_o 4._o and_o though_o i_o urge_v he_o he_o will_v not_o answer_v what_o i_o say_v of_o the_o question_n who_o shall_v judge_v whether_o the_o minister_n be_v faithful_a 5._o if_o the_o patron_n present_v a_o weak_a ignorant_a man_n that_o be_v faithful_a but_o of_o little_a use_n comparative_o and_o
doctrine_n worship_n or_o religious_a ministration_n for_o the_o ministration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o key_n be_v already_o appoint_v by_o christ_n and_o the_o office_n or_o order_n be_v specify_v by_o the_o work_n and_o terminus_fw-la and_o a_o new_a office_n have_v new_a work_n but_o in_o the_o same_o species_n of_o religious_a ministration_n there_o be_v abundance_n of_o accidental_n and_o circumstance_n and_o prince_n or_o consent_a church_n may_v give_v man_n power_n in_o those_o according_o but_o not_o to_o forbid_v what_o christ_n command_v nor_o destroy_v the_o work_n and_o power_n of_o his_o institution_n and_o if_o they_o that_o be_v for_o other_o superior_a or_o coordinate_a species_n of_o church-power_n beside_o what_o be_v afore-granted_n say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o lawful_a humane_a ordinance_n 1._o those_o that_o say_v prince_n only_o may_v make_v it_o confess_v the_o church_n have_v none_o that_o be_v lawful_a for_o three_o hundred_o year_n and_o they_o must_v prove_v the_o commission_n 2._o those_o that_o say_v the_o inferior_a bishop_n make_v it_o by_o consent_n 1._o feign_v inferior_n to_o have_v power_n to_o make_v a_o power_n above_o their_o own_o which_o be_v more_o than_o for_o presbyter_n to_o ordain_v their_o like_a 2._o why_o may_v not_o archbishop_n than_o make_v patriarch_n and_o they_o a_o pope_n ad_fw-la summum_fw-la ascendendo_fw-la 3._o they_o must_v prove_v their_o power_n and_o that_o they_o be_v so_o far_o equal_a to_o apostle_n who_o yet_o be_v but_o to_o teach_v the_o nation_n what_o christ_n command_v they_o which_o these_o man_n know_v not_o but_o by_o the_o scripture_n 4._o what_o man_n make_v man_n may_v unmake_v and_o how_o come_v we_o to_o be_v less_o free_a than_o our_o ancestor_n that_o make_v such_o office_n xli_o in_o my_o book_n of_o concord_n where_o this_o be_v grant_v yet_o i_o say_v that_o let_v church-patriarch_n metropolitan_o primate_fw-la archbishop_n or_o diocesan_n like_o we_o that_o have_v no_o bishop_n under_o they_o be_v never_o so_o probable_o maintain_v to_o be_v lawful_a yea_o and_o desirable_a yet_o the_o unite_n in_o they_o by_o consent_n and_o approbation_n will_v never_o become_v the_o term_n or_o way_n of_o universal_a concord_n which_o i_o have_v full_o prove_v even_o all_o that_o be_v true_a and_o good_a will_v never_o be_v the_o term_n of_o universal_a concord_n nor_o just_a christian_a communion_n much_o less_o that_o which_o have_v so_o much_o matter_n of_o doubt_n and_o great_a suspicion_n of_o evil_n but_o i_o will_v live_v in_o christian_a love_n peace_n and_o submission_n myself_o on_o term_n uncapable_a of_o common_a concord_n or_o my_o own_o approbation_n of_o the_o thing_n as_o impose_v or_o do_v by_o all_o other_o xlii_o lay-chancellour_n may_v do_v what_o belong_v to_o a_o magistrate_n but_o not_o use_v the_o church-keye_n nor_o be_v the_o church-judge_n of_o man_n communion_n because_o christ_n have_v institute_v the_o sacred_a office_n for_o it_o xliii_o a_o church_n be_v ens_fw-la politicum_fw-la in_o the_o sense_n in_o hand_n and_o the_o form_n of_o it_o be_v relative_n in_o the_o predicament_n of_o relation_n xliv_o the_o part_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v similar_v and_o dissimilar_v more_o simple_a or_o more_o compound_v and_o the_o word_n whole_a apply_v to_o a_o part_n disprove_v not_o its_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n or_o church_n a_o whole_a hand_n foot_n head_n etc._n etc._n be_v part_n of_o a_o whole_a body_n and_o a_o whole_a body_n part_n of_o a_o whole_a man_n and_o a_o whole_a man_n part_n of_o a_o whole_a family_n and_o a_o whole_a family_n part_n of_o a_o whole_a street_n and_o that_o of_o a_o whole_a city_n and_o that_o of_o a_o whole_a county_n or_o kingdom_n a_o whole_a college_n of_o a_o whole_a university_n etc._n etc._n all_o member_n save_o soul_n and_o atom_n be_v compound_n xlv_o when_o we_o call_v all_o the_o christian_a world_n the_o catholic_n church_n and_o call_v e._n g._n hippo_n a_o or_o the_o catholic_n church_n the_o word_n catholic_n and_o the_n be_v not_o univocal_a in_o the_o late_a we_o mean_v only_o the_o church_n at_o hippo_n which_o hold_v the_o true_a catholic_n faith_n and_o be_v a_o true_a part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n penuria_fw-la nominum_fw-la necessaria_fw-la reddit_fw-la aequivoca_fw-la xlvi_o particular_a church_n be_v visible_a in_o the_o regent_n and_o govern_v part_n the_o universal_a church_n be_v visible_a in_o the_o govern_v part_n and_o in_o the_o head_n only_o so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v once_o on_o earth_n and_o be_v now_o visible_a in_o heaven_n his_o court_n and_o will_v be_v visible_a at_o last_o to_o all_o and_o rule_v by_o visible_a law_n but_o not_o as_o a_o head_n now_o visible_a on_o earth_n nor_o be_v this_o any_o deformity_n to_o his_o church_n nor_o any_o reason_n why_o it_o may_v not_o be_v call_v visible_a as_o i_o have_v full_o prove_v in_o two_o book_n against_o w._n johnson_n alias_o terret_n xlvii_o those_o that_o deny_v a_o universal_a visible_a church_n differ_v only_o the_o nowine_n not_o de_fw-mi re_fw-mi they_o only_o deny_v any_o universal_a regent_n power_n monarchical_a or_o aristocratical_a or_o democratical_a under_o christ_n but_o i_o know_v no_o christian_n that_o ever_o deny_v the_o fore-described_n xlviii_o forma_fw-la that_o esse_fw-la divers_a constitutive_a form_n or_o specify_v difference_n make_v divers_a essence_n therefore_o the_o form_n of_o a_o troop_n be_v the_o captain_n government_n differ_v from_o the_o form_n of_o a_o regiment_n which_o be_v the_o colonel_n govern_v relation_n and_o both_o from_o the_o form_n of_o the_o army_n which_o be_v the_o general_n the_o formal_a essence_n of_o a_o college_n be_v divers_a from_o that_o of_o a_o university_n and_o of_o a_o family_n from_o a_o corporation_n or_o city_n and_o that_o from_o a_o kingdom_n and_o as_o forma_fw-la that_fw-mi nomen_fw-la they_o have_v divers_a name_n a_o family_n quatalis_fw-la be_v not_o a_o kingdom_n etc._n etc._n reader_n forgive_v the_o mention_n of_o these_o thing_n which_o child_n know_v and_o till_o now_o i_o never_o read_v or_o hear_v any_o man_n deny_v or_o question_v in_o that_o which_o follow_v you_o shall_v see_v the_o reason_n that_o excuse_v i_o chap._n iii_o what_o mr._n cheyney_n say_v against_o these_o thing_n and_o 1._o of_o church-form_n and_o essence_n §_o 1._o though_o it_o tempt_v i_o not_o to_o conformity_n as_o the_o way_n of_o concord_n where_o i_o see_v the_o great_a difference_n of_o such_o as_o plead_v for_o it_o among_o themselves_o yet_o i_o must_v do_v that_o right_n to_o the_o conformist_n as_o to_o tell_v the_o world_n that_o they_o must_v not_o be_v judge_v of_o by_o mr._n ch_n be_v opinion_n and_o that_o i_o know_v no_o other_o conformist_n or_o nonconformist_a of_o his_o mind_n about_o church-form_n §_o 2._o but_o i_o must_v add_v that_o his_o case_n do_v increase_v my_o conviction_n against_o himself_o and_o they_o that_o their_o conformity_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v the_o necessary_a cement_n that_o it_o be_v utter_o destructive_a of_o it_o as_o so_o impose_v and_o that_o it_o must_v be_v on_o few_o plain_a necessary_a thing_n that_o common_a concord_n must_v be_v hold_v or_o we_o must_v have_v none_o mr._n ch._n think_v i_o one_o who_o may_v be_v endure_v in_o the_o ministry_n and_o i_o think_v so_o by_o he_o and_o yet_o how_o far_o easy_o and_o plain_a than_o our_o controversy_n of_o conformity_n be_v those_o thing_n in_o which_o we_o differ_v to_o the_o height_n of_o his_o follow_a accusation_n if_o none_o shall_v be_v endure_v that_o can_v covenant_n swear_v subscribe_v declare_v and_o practice_n as_o be_v require_v how_o much_o less_o can_v such_o as_o he_o and_o i_o be_v endure_v in_o one_o church_n if_o we_o differ_v as_o he_o say_v we_o do_v o_o what_o pardon_n and_o forbearance_n do_v our_o peace_n require_v §_o 3._o of_o church-form_n and_o essence_n hear_v some_o of_o his_o judgement_n pag._n 3._o the_o several_a congregation_n and_o assembly_n of_o pastor_n and_o people_n throughout_o the_o kingdom_n be_v not_o limb_n and_o parcel_n of_o a_o church_n but_o they_o be_v so_o many_o church_n consist_v of_o a_o pastor_n govern_v and_o people_n govern_v join_v together_o in_o public_a worship_n it_o be_v call_v the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o all_o the_o christian_a pastor_n and_o people_n throughout_o the_o world_n be_v call_v the_o universal_a church_n one_o church_n of_o which_o christ_n be_v the_o transcendent_a head_n i_o do_v not_o see_v but_o it_o be_v proper_a to_o call_v all_o the_o christian_a pastor_n and_o people_n of_o england_n one_o church_n p._n 6._o christ_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o under_o christ_n all_o the_o parish-minister_n be_v subordinate_a guide_n and_o ruler_n of_o their_o flock_n
in_o how_o few_o month_n all_o the_o writer_n of_o the_o three_o first_o century_n may_v be_v read_v over_o i_o pray_v you_o here_o leave_v every_o one_o to_o his_o liberty_n of_o judge_v among_o you_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o great_a honour_n to_o know_v they_o than_o a_o dishonour_n to_o be_v ignorant_a of_o they_o among_o we_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o great_a dishonour_n to_o be_v ignorant_a of_o they_o than_o a_o honour_n to_o know_v they_o can_v you_o endure_v any_o to_o differ_v from_o you_o this_o comprimize_n may_v serve_v but_o the_o next_o time_n falsify_v not_o my_o word_n as_o for_o your_o intimation_n of_o some_o that_o can_v read_v they_o do_v you_o not_o believe_v yourself_o that_o its_o true_a of_o ten_o conformist_n for_o one_o nonconformist_a i_o remember_v but_o one_o nonconformable_a minister_n in_o worcester_n shire_n that_o be_v not_o of_o a_o university_n and_o i_o conjecture_v that_o he_o can_v read_v the_o father_n but_o by_o your_o speech_n what_o stranger_n will_v not_o take_v it_o to_o be_v use_v by_o you_o for_o their_o ordinary_a character_n which_o you_o dare_v not_o charge_n on_o one_o by_o name_n in_o all_o the_o county_n that_o be_v a_o ordain_v minister_v when_o i_o provoke_v you_o do_v not_o this_o savour_n of_o factious_a malignity_n as_o to_o the_o prepostecus_fw-la method_n of_o read_v late_a writer_n before_o the_o father_n which_o you_o talk_v of_o 1._o papist_n and_o protestant_n in_o all_o university_n have_v most_o usual_o do_v so_o as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v hear_v 2._o some_o take_v both_o together_o 3._o i_o suppose_v that_o if_o one_o book_n be_v read_v this_o month_n and_o another_o the_o next_o it_o be_v not_o like_a to_o make_v any_o great_a alteration_n in_o knowledge_n which_o go_v first_o 4._o methinks_v still_o you_o across_o your_o own_o intention_n and_o tell_v man_n that_o those_o nonconformist_n honour_n the_o father_n more_o than_o you_o for_o the_o most_o judicious_a or_o necessary_a author_n shall_v be_v read_v with_o great_a judgement_n and_o mature_a judgement_n be_v usual_o the_o great_a if_o you_o will_v have_v boy_n learn_v the_o father_n at_o school_n as_o they_o do_v tulli_n office_n before_o their_o large_a catechism_n they_o will_v be_v lose_v as_o tulli_n office_n usual_o be_v and_o that_o which_o they_o have_v once_o read_v though_o without_o judgement_n they_o will_v think_v they_o need_v not_o read_v again_o 5._o do_v you_o believe_v that_o lad_n that_o never_o read_v any_o method_n of_o theology_n or_o catechism_n can_v draw_v a_o good_a catechism_n or_o method_n out_o of_o the_o father_n first_o suppose_v they_o to_o have_v begin_v at_o lem_z romanus_n and_o take_v in_o dionis_fw-la areop_n and_o ignatius_n yea_o and_o martialis_n apost_n at_o a_o venture_n true_a or_o false_a and_o to_o have_v end_v at_o the_o nicene_n council_n yea_o or_o any_o where_o short_a of_o augustine_n what_o a_o method_n think_v you_o will_v they_o draw_v up_o yea_o if_o they_o must_v go_v further_o and_o read_v all_o chrysostom_n with_o his_o enemy_n epiphanius_n and_o augustine_n with_o his_o hilary_n prosper_n and_o fulgentius_n how_o will_v the_o lad_n reconcile_v their_o doctrinal_a disagreement_n and_o then_o draw_v one_o method_n out_o of_o both_o party_n 6._o do_v you_o not_o condemn_v the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o do_v not_o send_v man_n first_o to_o the_o father_n for_o a_o method_n but_o draw_v they_o up_o catechism_n first_o and_o then_o a_o book_n of_o article_n or_o confession_n and_o nowell_n catechism_n be_v authorize_v by_o they_o and_o then_o a_o apology_n and_o a_o book_n of_o homily_n etc._n etc._n and_o command_v not_o subscription_n to_o the_o father_n but_o to_o these_o and_o command_v no_o commentary_n of_o the_o father_n to_o be_v keep_v in_o the_o church_n but_o erasmus_n paraphrase_n 7._o and_o in_o good_a sadness_n can_v you_o that_o have_v read_v both_o believe_v that_o the_o write_n of_o the_o father_n be_v as_o methodical_a as_o accurate_a as_o sound_v as_o full_a as_o useful_a to_o form_v a_o true_a body_n of_o theology_n in_o the_o mind_n as_o the_o late_a writer_n be_v can_v you_o believe_v this_o be_v there_o any_o thing_n among_o they_o to_o these_o use_n like_o melancthon_n calvin_n inst_n polanus_fw-la ludou._n crocius_n georgius_n sohnius_n amesius_n thesis_n salmuense_n synop_n theol._n leidensium_fw-la camero_n etc._n etc._n or_o if_o you_o have_v rather_o like_o arminius_n episcopius_n dr._n hammond_n especial_o like_o bishop_n andrews_n dr._n field_n bishop_n davenant_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o best_a of_o their_o practical_a write_n even_o macarius_n ephrem_fw-la syrus_n etc._n etc._n comparable_a to_o abundance_n use_v now_o whether_o such_o nonconformist_n as_o hildersham_n perkins_n rogers_n burrough_n etc._n etc._n or_o such_o conformist_n as_o sibbe_n preston_n gurnal_n the_o practice_n of_o piety_n hammond_n etc._n etc._n do_v you_o think_v that_o the_o sure_a and_o ready_a way_n for_o youth_n to_o come_v to_o understand_v and_o believe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n of_o the_o godhead_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n of_o the_o hypostatical_a union_n of_o the_o twofold_a nature_n and_o will_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v to_o read_v first_o all_o the_o first_o writer_n that_o say_v little_a or_o nothing_o of_o they_o and_o those_o that_o say_v much_o amiss_o of_o some_o of_o they_o and_o then_o to_o read_v all_o the_o odious_a war_n at_o the_o ephesine_n council_n at_o the_o council_n of_o arimin_n sermium_fw-la and_o many_o more_o and_o to_o read_v all_o the_o contentious_a write_n hereabout_o of_o cyril_n alexand_n theodoret_n epiphanius_n and_o down_o to_o damascene_fw-la be_v not_o one_o joshua_n placaeus_fw-la pro_fw-la deitate_fw-la christi_fw-la worth_n all_o that_o ever_o be_v then_o write_v i_o confess_v above_o all_o their_o subject_n the_o time_n engage_v they_o in_o the_o large_a defence_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n against_o the_o heathen_n in_o which_o euseb_n in_o praeparat_fw-la &_o demonstrate_v evang._n &_o augustine_n have_v do_v well_o but_o so_o far_o short_a of_o what_o be_v do_v of_o late_a by_o grotius_n du_fw-fr plessis_n Ê‹ander_n meulin_n camero_n yea_o savonarola_n vives_n and_o many_o more_o as_o that_o all_o lay_v together_o i_o be_o not_o for_o your_o method_n take_v out_o but_o justin_n tertullian_n and_o cyprian_a in_o the_o three_o first_o century_n and_o basil_n nazianz._n nyssen_n hierom_n and_o chrysostom_n and_o augustin_n after_o and_o i_o will_v not_o tell_v you_o what_o you_o will_v leave_v we_o if_o origen_n must_v be_v take_v in_o let_v they_o first_o fight_v it_o out_o to_o decide_v it_o whether_o he_o be_v a_o hererick_n for_o halloix_n and_o our_o conform_v originist_n tell_v we_o that_o theoph._n alexand._n and_o epiphanius_n end_v not_o the_o controversy_n by_o the_o banishment_n of_o chrisostom_n 8._o and_o if_o all_o the_o naevi_fw-la of_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v in_o our_o modern_a divine_n which_o not_o only_o scultetus_n and_o other_o protestant_n have_v gather_v but_o even_o baronius_n sixtus_n senensis_n possevine_n bellarmine_n etc._n etc._n what_o will_v you_o call_v they_o what_o heretic_n shall_v we_o be_v be_v there_o ever_o so_o great_a error_n charge_v on_o any_o one_o of_o the_o 1800_o minister_n for_o their_o silence_v as_o be_v visible_a in_o diony_n constitut_n &_o can._n apostol_n irenaeus_n clem._n alex._n tatianus_n arnebius_fw-la lactantius_n etc._n etc._n but_o i_o forget_v how_o much_o dalaeus_n de_fw-fr usu_fw-la patr._n have_v say_v more_o on_o this_o subject_a if_o we_o have_v to_o do_v with_o man_n that_o can_v let_v man_n live_v by_o they_o that_o obey_v they_o not_o even_o in_o the_o method_n of_o their_o study_n this_o much_o also_o may_v compromise_n this_o difference_n you_o shall_v set_v your_o pupil_n first_o to_o read_v all_o the_o father_n and_o make_v out_o of_o they_o such_o a_o religion_n as_o they_o be_v able_a or_o perhaps_o too_o many_o but_o than_o you_o must_v not_o be_v their_o collector_n as_o you_o teach_v they_o for_o it_o be_v as_o good_a to_o take_v a_o method_n from_o a_o book_n as_o from_o your_o mouth_n and_o we_o will_v teach_v we_o first_o to_o understand_v the_o catechism_n ursine_n polanus_fw-la amesius_n etc._n etc._n with_o the_o scripture_n and_o to_o read_v the_o father_n in_o order_n when_o they_o have_v judgement_n to_o know_v how_o to_o use_v they_o and_o let_v the_o issue_n show_v which_o be_v the_o wise_a way_n but_o i_o pray_v you_o while_o you_o read_v the_o father_n to_o your_o scholar_n call_v they_o not_o blue_a apron_n nor_o tub-preacher_n nor_o fanatic_n as_o out_o as_o you_o find_v they_o to_o have_v want_v the_o language_n or_o academical_a education_n lest_o it_o hinder_v your_o success_n but_o i_o think_v all_o this_o quarrel_n with_o the_o method_n of_o our_o study_n be_v for_o the_o interest_n
be_v one_o that_o will_v not_o persecute_v and_o undo_v such_o puritan_n we_o have_v divers_a such_o presbyterian_a bishop_n usher_z bedle_n downam_n davenant_n hall_n etc._n etc._n and_o before_o they_o grindal_n abbot_n and_o the_o most_o of_o our_o bishop_n for_o queen_n elizabeth_n reign_n again_o i_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v some_o such_o presbyterian_o as_o these_o that_o raise_v the_o parliament_n army_n in_o england_n the_o two_o next_o section_n evince_v your_o error_n and_o calumny_n you_o pass_v by_o §_o 22._o be_v of_o no_o further_a use_n to_o we_o only_o about_o dr._n jo._n reignolds_n you_o be_v a_o most_o deceive_v and_o deceive_a historian_n 1._o you_o do_v not_o know_v etc._n etc._n but_o you_o may_v have_v know_v that_o there_o be_v extant_a in_o print_n his_o letter_n to_o sir_n francis_n knowles_n against_o prelacy_n for_o a_o mere_a moderatorship_n or_o presidency_n 2._o you_o say_v do_v he_o not_o live_v and_o die_v in_o full_a conformity_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n answ_n a_o know_a falsehood_n if_o a_o question_n may_v be_v false_a what_o matter_n of_o fact_n shall_v ever_o come_v to_o posterity_n by_o such_o hand_n without_o falsification_n if_o cartwright_n and_o reignolds_n the_o lead_v nonconformist_n of_o england_n be_v conformist_n sir_n i_o and_o hundred_o more_o have_v offer_v long_o to_o conform_v as_o far_o to_o the_o utmost_a as_o either_o of_o these_o do_v and_o yet_o we_o be_v unworthy_a to_o preach_v the_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n for_o want_n of_o conformity_n it_o may_v be_v leave_v it_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v presbyterian_o that_o will_v not_o prosecute_v we_o learn_v better_o whether_o ever_o dr._n reignolds_n do_v subscribe_v to_o the_o liturgy_n and_o ceremony_n whether_o ever_o he_o take_v the_o oath_n of_o canonical_a obedience_n or_o be_v not_o against_o the_o present_a prelacy_n whether_o he_o be_v for_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n but_o you_o very_o think_v that_o be_v he_o now_o alive_a he_o will_v be_v as_o hard_o a_o màwl_n of_o the_o schismatic_n and_o nonconformist_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o of_o the_o schismatic_n no_o doubt_n for_o he_o write_v against_o both_o prelacy_n and_o separation_n 2._o wonderful_a what_o can_v you_o very_o believe_v which_o you_o be_v but_o willing_a shall_v be_v true_a that_o a_o archbishop_n be_v a_o presbyterian_a and_o that_o the_o lead_v nonconformist_a will_v be_v a_o mawl_v of_o the_o nonconformist_n when_o 1._o twice_o as_o much_o be_v now_o require_v of_o conformist_n as_o be_v then_o 2._o and_o dr._n reignolds_n be_v not_o a_o man_n to_o do_v what_o he_o do_v without_o such_o reason_n as_o will_v have_v make_v he_o constant_a and_o to_o requite_v you_o with_o as_o strong_a confidence_n sir_n i_o do_v not_o rash_o but_o sober_o and_o deliberate_o profess_v that_o be_v they_o all_o alive_a at_o this_o day_n the_o old_a religious_a conformable_a divine_v themselves_o such_o as_o dr._n io._n white_a dr._n willet_n dr._n challoner_n dr._n field_n mr._n whateley_n mr._n crook_n mr._n robert_n bolton_n dr._n preston_n dr._n sibbes_n dr._n stoughton_n dr._n taylor_n with_o a_o thousand_o more_o and_o a_o thousand_o yea_o these_o that_o write_v for_o the_o old_a conformity_n mr._n sprint_v mr._n paybody_n dr._n jo._n burges_n forbes_n yea_o the_o old_a bishop_n themselves_o jewel_n sands_n grindall_n abbot_n miles_n smith_n etc._n etc._n i_o do_v firm_o believe_v without_o hesitation_n that_o the_o generality_n of_o they_o will_v have_v be_v resolve_v nonconformist_n at_o this_o time_n not_o change_v their_o judgement_n but_o because_o of_o the_o great_a change_n of_o conformity_n for_o i_o know_v that_o cornelius_n burges_n the_o learned_a gataker_n dr._n robert_n harris_n and_o almost_o all_o the_o late_a westminster_n assembly_n be_v former_o such_o kind_n of_o conformist_n as_o these_o be_v and_o i_o know_v the_o same_o nonconformist_n now_o though_o not_o many_o will_v have_v yield_v to_o the_o old_a conformity_n yea_o more_o i_o be_o persuade_v that_o be_v rogers_n bradford_n sanders_n etc._n etc._n yea_o bishop_n hooper_n bishop_n farrar_n and_o bishop_n latimer_n alive_a now_o they_o will_v all_o choose_v rather_o to_o burn_v at_o a_o stake_n again_o than_o to_o do_v what_o be_v require_v of_o we_o say_v not_o that_o i_o reproach_n the_o law_n for_o i_o only_o speak_v of_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n whether_o they_o or_o the_o present_a bishop_n be_v the_o wise_a i_o meddle_v not_o yea_o more_o yet_o i_o much_o doubt_v whether_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o england_n now_o will_v conform_v themselves_o as_o minister_n do_v if_o they_o be_v put_v to_o it_o for_o i_o suppose_v you_o to_o know_v that_o they_o be_v not_o put_v to_o the_o declaration_n and_o subscription_n as_o the_o minister_n be_v nor_o to_o their_o oath_n but_o in_o this_o i_o be_o not_o confident_a but_o only_o doubt_v but_o of_o such_o old_a conformist_n as_o bolton_n whateley_n etc._n etc._n i_o make_v no_o doubt_n at_o all_o 3._o but_o your_o proof_n be_v that_o he_o receive_v absolution_n according_a to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n answer_v be_v this_o prove_v so_o will_v i_o do_v yea_o i_o do_v receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n according_a to_o the_o liturgy_n be_o i_o therefore_o a_o conformist_n do_v it_o follow_v that_o he_o will_v swear_v subscribe_v declare_v use_v the_o image_n of_o the_o cross_n as_o a_o symbol_n of_o christianity_n etc._n etc._n §_o 23._o be_v intimate_v calumny_n about_o popery_n it_o be_v well_o you_o let_v fall_v though_o you_o confess_v it_o not_o §_o 24._o we_o come_v now_o to_o the_o great_a of_o our_o difference_n which_o you_o call_v my_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d about_o a_o notorious_a matter_n of_o fact_n whether_o they_o be_v presbyterian_o or_o episcopal_a and_o ●rastians_n that_o first_o raise_v the_o army_n in_o england_n against_o the_o king_n when_o in_o the_o very_a age_n that_o it_o be_v do_v such_o a_o thing_n can_v be_v so_o confivent_o deny_v what_o credit_n be_v there_o in_o some_o man_n history_n i_o think_v all_o these_o set_v together_o have_v be_v proof_n enough_o 1._o that_o former_a episcopal_a parliament_n begin_v the_o business_n and_o leave_v it_o where_o those_o find_v it_o 2._o heylin_n himself_o show_v full_o that_o the_o difference_n be_v long_o work_v between_o the_o two_o sort_n of_o episcopal_a man_n about_o arminianism_n favour_v papist_n innovation_n and_o propriety_n 3._o that_o such_o as_o jewel_n bilson_n and_o hooker_n give_v we_o the_o principle_n on_o which_o they_o do_v proceed_v and_o sir_n edward_n sands_n that_o have_v write_v for_o high_a conformity_n and_o be_v hooker_n pupil_n and_o bosom_n friend_n be_v one_o of_o the_o chief_a for_o the_o people_n interest_n in_o th●se_a parliament_n 4._o that_o h●ylin_n and_o rushworth_n and_o fuller_n acquaint_v we_o that_o abbot_n be_v lay_v by_o for_o refuse_v to_o licence_n sibthorp_n book_n and_o how_o the_o rest_n do_v prosecute_v mainwaring_n 5._o that_o we_o know_v ourselves_o abundance_n of_o the_o parliament-man_n who_o be_v all_o of_o their_o judgement_n viz._n that_o moderate_a episcopacy_n be_v the_o best_a government_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n that_o follow_v lawd_n do_v by_o innovation_n seek_v to_o destroy_v both_o religion_n and_o the_o subject_n liberty_n as_o they_o think_v and_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o bring_v down_o the_o bishop_n power_n in_o temporal_n and_o to_o get_v better_a man_n that_o will_v be_v confine_v more_o to_o spiritual_a government_n and_o use_v it_o better_o but_o that_o no_o episcopacy_n be_v so_o necessary_a as_o that_o the_o state_n shall_v be_v hazard_v to_o support_v it_o this_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o almost_o all_o they_o that_o i_o can_v hear_v or_o know_v of_o 6._o that_o even_o to_o this_o day_n 1671._o there_o be_v yet_o about_o threescore_o of_o they_o alive_a beside_o lord_n from_o who_o the_o matter_n may_v be_v know_v 7._o that_o understanding_n conscionable_a member_n of_o the_o house_n yet_o live_v open_o profess_v that_o presbytery_n be_v fierce_o know_v among_o they_o and_o that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o know_v presbyterian_a then_o in_o that_o house_n which_o be_v mr._n tate_n of_o northamptonshire_n a_o honest_a man_n 8._o that_o when_o they_o have_v raise_v their_o army_n in_o their_o proposition_n send_v to_o the_o king_n at_o nottingham_n they_o offer_v the_o moderate_n of_o episcopacy_n and_o not_o presbytery_n 9_o that_o the_o earl_n of_o fssex_n general_n the_o earl_n of_o bedford_n general_n of_o the_o horse_n the_o earl_n of_o peterborough_n sir_n john_n merick_n dolbiere_n the_o earl_n of_o stamford_n the_o earl_n of_o huntingdon_n the_o now_o earl_n of_o denbigh_n the_o lord_n s_o john_n the_o lord_n roberts_n the_o lord_n mandevile_n late_a earl_n of_o manchester_n the_o now_o lord_n hollis_n colonel_n essex_n col._n goodwin_n colonel_n grantham_n sir_n
conformist_n that_o desire_v a_o deliverance_n but_o this_o prove_v not_o that_o the_o parliament_n be_v presbyterian_o then_o much_o less_o that_o they_o be_v so_o before_o the_o war_n but_o you_o that_o meddle_v not_o with_o layman_n remember_v that_o layman_n send_v those_o propasition_n you_o next_o tell_v i_o of_o alderman_n pennington_n and_o the_o apprentice_n answ_n 1._o few_o of_o those_o apprentice_n know_v what_o presbytery_n be_v but_o be_v exasperate_v against_o episcopacy_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o present_a bishop_n as_o the_o common_a people_n be_v now_o within_o these_o nine_o year_n think_v that_o it_o be_v they_o that_o silence_v their_o teacher_n and_o cause_v all_o our_o division_n but_o alas_o little_a know_v they_o what_o church-government_n to_o desire_v but_o most_o that_o be_v in_o judgement_n against_o episcopacy_n be_v independent_o and_o separatist_n then_o and_o how_o inconsiderable_a a_o number_n in_o london_n be_v those_o apprentice_n 2._o and_o our_o question_n be_v not_o what_o party_n of_o lad_n or_o apprentice_n or_o woman_n do_v clamour_n against_o bishop_n but_o what_o party_n it_o be_v that_o raise_v the_o war_n do_v these_o lad_n give_v the_o earl_n of_o essex_n his_o commission_n but_o you_o find_v none_o that_o say_v any_o thing_n against_o their_o petition_n but_o the_o lord_n digby_n answ_n and_o have_v not_o he_o forsake_v you_o also_o 1._o where_o do_v you_o seek_v to_o find_v it_o not_o in_o the_o parliament_n journal_n sure_a else_o you_o may_v have_v find_v more_o 2._o the_o truth_n be_v the_o episcopal_a parliament_n themselves_o perceive_v what_o party_n they_o must_v trust_v to_o oppose_v not_o those_o petition_n because_o the_o petitioner_n may_v serve_v their_o turn_n and_o i_o doubt_v be_v too_o well_o content_v with_o they_o but_o as_o no_o man_n must_v say_v that_o the_o king_n have_v the_o spirit_n of_o popery_n because_o he_o be_v willing_a that_o the_o papist_n shall_v help_v he_o so_o no_o man_n can_v prove_v that_o the_o episcopal_a parliament_n have_v the_o spirit_n of_o presbytery_n or_o be_v against_o episcopacy_n itself_o because_o they_o be_v willing_a to_o be_v help_v by_o all_o sort_n who_o on_o a_o sudden_a be_v fall_v out_o with_o bishop_n the_o truth_n be_v the_o suspending_a and_o silence_v of_o minister_n and_o the_o crop_n the_o ear_n and_o stigmatise_v prin_fw-mi with_o burton_n and_o bastwick_n have_v sudden_o raise_v in_o the_o london_n apprentice_n and_o other_o a_o great_a distaste_n of_o the_o bishop_n though_o they_o know_v little_a of_o any_o controversy_n about_o church-government_n at_o all_o when_o you_o say_v that_o episcopacy_n or_o rather_o bishop_n land_n be_v the_o palladium_n etc._n etc._n 1_o episcopacy_n be_v not_o so_o till_o after_o the_o army_n be_v raise_v it_o be_v so_o no_o doubt_n in_o the_o private_a design_n of_o some_o particular_a man_n apprentice_n and_o woman_n in_o the_o city_n and_o kingdom_n that_o be_v all_o that_o be_v against_o it_o desire_v it_o shall_v fall_v and_o many_o that_o be_v episcopal_n desire_v that_o it_o shall_v rather_o fall_v than_o the_o abuse_n of_o it_o continue_v by_o such_o man_n as_o they_o think_v will_v else_o ruin_v church_n and_o state_n think_v that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o way_n to_o save_v they_o so_o far_o do_v different_a apprehension_n about_o propriety_n liberty_n popery_n and_o arminianism_n carry_v man_n from_o one_o another_o who_o be_v all_o for_o episcopacy_n but_o forget_v not_o 1._o that_o it_o be_v the_o major_a vote_n of_o the_o parliament_n and_o not_o a_o few_o secret_a designer_n within_o or_o without_o door_n that_o be_v the_o parliament_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v the_o parliament_n that_o raise_v the_o militia_n and_o army_n 3._o that_o this_o parliament_n be_v not_o at_o that_o time_n against_o episcopacy_n therefore_o your_o talk_n of_o the_o isle_n of_o wight_n so_o long_o after_o be_v like_a a_o jest_n than_o serious_a beside_o that_o you_o seem_v ignorant_a of_o the_o parliament_n resolve_v to_o accept_v of_o the_o king_n concession_n as_o prins_n long_o print_v speech_n will_v show_v you_o and_o therefore_o immediate_o before_o they_o shall_v have_v vote_v that_o closure_n be_v pull_v out_o by_o cromwell_n who_o have_v secret_a intelligence_n what_o they_o be_v go_v to_o do_v 2._o and_o your_o oblivion_n cause_v you_o by_o your_o parenthesis_n to_o contradict_v what_o you_o have_v hitherto_o say_v yourself_o for_o if_o it_o be_v bishop_n land_n rather_o than_o bishop_n that_o they_o will_v have_v down_o it_o imply_v that_o they_o be_v not_o presbyterian_o nor_o against_o episcopacy_n will_v you_o make_v a_o englishman_n of_o this_o age_n believe_v that_o none_o of_o your_o own_o church_n have_v a_o appetite_n to_o bishop_n land_n try_v they_o and_o they_o will_v confute_v you_o more_o effectual_o than_o i_o can_v do_v you_o think_v that_o of_o the_o multitude_n that_o now_o drink_v and_o ●rant_v and_o roar_v and_o whore_n and_o rob_v there_o be_v none_o who_o conscience_n can_v be_v content_a that_o bishop_n fall_v that_o they_o may_v have_v their_o land_n you_o will_v say_v perhaps_o these_o be_v not_o true_o for_o episcopacy_n ridiculous_a must_v we_o write_v history_n out_o of_o man_n secret_a thought_n and_o heart_n and_o call_v man_n only_o what_o they_o be_v conscientious_o and_o in_o sincerity_n who_o know_v another_o man_n sincerity_n but_o god_n come_v into_o london_n or_o go_v among_o these_o gallant_n and_o tell_v they_o that_o they_o be_v not_o son_n of_o the_o church_n if_o you_o dare_v harken_v whether_o they_o talk_v not_o more_o for_o bishop_n than_o for_o any_o other_o sect_n whether_o they_o do_v not_o curse_v and_o damn_v the_o presbyterian_o and_o fanatic_n and_o their_o conventicle_n and_o deride_v their_o preach_a and_o pray_v and_o say_v as_o bad_a of_o they_o as_o you_o can_v wish_v they_o though_o i_o know_v that_o too_o great_a abundance_n since_o our_o silence_v be_v fall_v off_o from_o you_o to_o infidelity_n or_o atheism_n and_o to_o make_v a_o jest_n of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o the_o papist_n say_v that_o very_o many_o thousand_o be_v turn_v to_o they_o yet_o i_o speak_v of_o those_o that_o still_o call_v themselves_o protestant_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n real_o if_o you_o will_v take_v none_o to_o be_v of_o your_o church_n that_o will_v sell_v the_o bishop_n land_n or_o none_o that_o be_v not_o conscientious_o for_o you_o i_o doubt_v your_o church_n yet_o will_v prove_v invisible_a and_o as_o little_a as_o some_o of_o the_o house_v sect_n and_o if_o that_o will_v serve_v your_o turn_n i_o pray_v deal_v equal_o and_o let_v the_o sectary_n also_o have_v leave_v to_o say_v of_o any_o of_o their_o party_n that_o kill_v the_o king_n or_o be_v guilty_a of_o treason_n he_o be_v not_o true_o one_o of_o we_o the_o war_n be_v first_o call_v bellum_n episcopale_v by_o the_o parliament-man_n because_o they_o think_v or_o say_v that_o land_n and_o his_o adherent_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o it_o by_o seek_v to_o reduce_v the_o scot_n to_o their_o will_n and_o to_o set_v up_o altar_n and_o other_o innovation_n in_o england_n but_o not_o because_o the_o parliament_n at_o that_o time_n renounce_v episcopacy_n itself_o as_o to_o the_o particular_a member_n of_o the_o army_n i_o confess_v i_o do_v know_v they_o better_o than_o you_o i_o speak_v not_o of_o fairfax_n or_o cromwell_n army_n but_o of_o essex_n and_o it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o have_v so_o much_o modesty_n as_o not_o to_o deny_v that_o they_o be_v episcopal_a or_o no_o presbyterian_o but_o you_o venture_v to_o say_v of_o those_o yet_o live_v that_o they_o be_v so_o whilst_o they_o assist_v in_o the_o support_n of_o the_o late_a cause_n i_o have_v not_o so_o far_o renounce_v my_o reason_n and_o experience_n as_o to_o fall_v in_o with_o your_o account_n and_o if_o we_o persevere_v in_o this_o new_a doctrine_n we_o shall_v be_v as_o distant_a as_o the_o two_o pole_n answ_n now_o you_o be_v at_o your_o strength_n your_o confidence_n and_o resolution_n to_o believe_v or_o say_v you_o believe_v as_o you_o do_v be_v all_o the_o life_n of_o your_o cause_n it_o be_v now_o take_v for_o no_o dishonour_n to_o the_o great_a lord_n to_o say_v that_o they_o be_v for_o episcopacy_n there_o be_v yet_o live_v the_o earl_n of_o bedford_n the_o earl_n of_o denbeigh_n the_o earl_n of_o stamford_n the_o lord_n grey_n of_o work_n the_o lord_n hollis_n the_o lord_n asthey_n the_o lord_n roberts_n the_o earl_n of_o anglesey_n though_o he_o be_v no_o soldier_n major_a general_n morgan_n mr._n g._n massey_n sir_n john_n gell_n and_o many_o more_o inquire_v of_o themselves_o or_o any_o that_o know_v they_o whether_o they_o be_v ever_o presbyterian_o or_o against_o a_o moderate_a episcopacy_n sir_n william_n waller_n be_v most_o call_v a_o presbyterian_a
heylin_n charge_v they_o on_o some_o call_v disciplinarian_o in_o the_o last_o age_n ergo_fw-la i_o may_v charge_v they_o on_o the_o present_a nonconformist_n yea_o on_o the_o whole_a chorus_n yea_o on_o their_o discipline_n that_o desire_v bishop_n usher_n episcopacy_n let_v it_o be_v so_o that_o you_o may_v be_v yourself_o as_o to_o what_o you_o say_v against_o the_o genevian_a principle_n as_o against_o government_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v 1._o why_o do_v you_o not_o name_v some_o one_o of_o those_o principle_n and_o try_v by_o what_o consequence_n it_o infer_v all_o the_o villainy_n which_o you_o name_n do_v not_o the_o papist_n say_v the_o same_o of_o the_o protestant_n 2._o and_o next_o why_o do_v you_o not_o prove_v that_o we_o hold_v those_o rebellious_a genevian_a principle_n be_v it_o christian_a deal_n in_o i_o if_o i_o shall_v say_v because_o prins_n history_n of_o prelate_n treason_n prove_v that_o multitude_n of_o prelate_n have_v be_v traitor_n therefore_o our_o present_a prelate_n be_v such_o too_o but_o we_o see_v what_o instrument_n the_o prince_n of_o malice_n and_o calumny_n use_v you_o tell_v i_o that_o you_o shall_v the_o less_o believe_v confession_n because_o the_o parliament_n declaration_n so_o differ_v from_o their_o practice_n ans_fw-fr 1._o but_o will_v you_o false_o accuse_v the_o part_n that_o be_v good_a for_o the_o part_n that_o be_v evil_a most_o christian_n live_v not_o according_a to_o the_o christian_a profession_n be_v the_o christian_a profession_n therefore_o bad_a and_o the_o cause_n of_o all_o their_o villainy_n will_v you_o judge_v fidem_fw-la ex_fw-la homine_fw-la will_v you_o charge_v all_o that_o upon_o a_o man_n religion_n objective_o consider_v which_o you_o find_v amiss_o in_o his_o life_n 2._o do_v you_o not_o know_v that_o our_o question_n now_o be_v not_o what_o the_o man_n be_v but_o what_o their_o principle_n and_o discipline_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o professio_fw-la profitens_fw-la but_o the_o professio_fw-la professa_fw-la which_o be_v to_o be_v dispute_v of_o and_o by_o what_o mean_n shall_v any_o church_n or_o party_n under_o heaven_n defend_v their_o religion_n against_o such_o a_o censurer_n and_o disputant_n as_o you_o be_v they_o will_v say_v that_o they_o have_v the_o true_a religion_n you_o will_v say_v no_o for_o you_o be_v not_o true_a to_o your_o religion_n they_o will_v say_v that_o their_o article_n be_v true_a you_o will_v say_v no_o they_o be_v false_a because_o you_o live_v not_o according_a to_o they_o which_o imply_v that_o they_o be_v true_a and_o good_a or_o else_o what_o fault_n be_v it_o to_o contradict_v they_o in_o practice_n the_o protestant_n will_v say_v our_o religion_n be_v sound_a and_o agreeable_a to_o god_n word_n you_o teach_v the_o papist_n to_o answer_v no_o it_o be_v false_a for_o there_o be_v vicious_a liver_n among_o you_o and_o i_o pray_v you_o what_o number_n of_o sinner_n must_v go_v to_o prove_v a_o religion_n creed_n or_o article_n false_a must_v it_o be_v all_o or_o the_o major_a part_n or_o will_v any_o one_o serve_v must_v the_o kingdom_n try_v by_o the_o pole_n or_o vote_n whether_o the_o vicious_a or_o the_o virtuous_a be_v the_o great_a number_n among_o they_o before_o they_o can_v prove_v their_o religion_n true_a do_v the_o act_n go_v to_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o object_n 3._o but_o if_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v so_o i_o pray_v dispute_v no_o more_o against_o the_o nonconformist_n or_o dispute_v against_o they_o better_o by_o your_o life_n than_o you_o have_v do_v will_v you_o teach_v they_o to_o argue_v the_o thirty-nine_o article_n the_o liturgy_n and_o book_n of_o ordination_n be_v not_o true_a or_o to_o be_v subscribe_v because_o the_o conformist_n live_v thus_o or_o thus_o you_o know_v foreigner_n and_o posterity_n know_v not_o which_o of_o the_o history_n of_o this_o age_n be_v true_a or_o false_a suppose_v that_o they_o shall_v read_v mr._n white_n be_v century_n of_o drunkard_n etc._n etc._n eject_v from_o the_o ministry_n and_o the_o record_n of_o the_o country_n committee_n say_v so_o many_o and_o so_o many_o be_v upon_o oath_n prove_v scandalous_a drunkard_n etc._n etc._n and_o ralph_n wallis_n name_v so_o many_o drunkard_n and_o scandalous_a conformist_n now_o will_v you_o have_v they_o question_v the_o principle_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n till_o they_o can_v prove_v these_o history_n false_a i_o profess_v to_o you_o resolve_o that_o if_o i_o must_v needs_o judge_v that_o church_n or_o party_n to_o have_v the_o sound_a principle_n and_o discipline_n who_o have_v the_o best_a life_n i_o shall_v far_o and_o very_o far_o prefer_v the_o presbyterian_o independent_o and_o much_o more_o the_o conciliator_n before_o the_o prelatist_n and_o yet_o not_o extenuate_v any_o of_o their_o fault_n but_o all_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o you_o that_o go_v another_o way_n to_o work_v why_o tell_v you_o of_o man_n profession_n when_o you_o see_v their_o contrary_a practice_n when_o as_o it_o be_v not_o the_o practice_n only_o but_o the_o profession_n that_o be_v the_o principle_n and_o discipline_n that_o you_o accuse_v and_o so_o when_o their_o principle_n be_v in_o question_n why_o do_v we_o talk_v to_o you_o of_o their_o principle_n and_o how_o silly_a a_o shift_n be_v all_o this_o cover_v with_o because_o the_o parliament_n promise_v to_o make_v the_o king_n the_o most_o glorious_a king_n if_o he_o will_v return_v to_o they_o etc._n etc._n but_o 1._o be_v a_o promise_n and_o disciplinarian_a principle_n of_o the_o same_o nature_n when_o we_o question_v their_o truth_n the_o promise_n be_v not_o true_a unless_o it_o agree_v with_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o promiser_n of_o which_o god_n be_v the_o judge_n till_o performance_n show_v it_o but_o principle_n may_v be_v true_a though_o he_o that_o profess_v they_o be_v never_o so_o false_a 2._o and_o i_o pray_v remember_v that_o the_o parliament_n be_v pull_v to_o piece_n and_o conquer_v by_o soldier_n even_o for_o resolve_v to_o close_v with_o the_o king_n before_o the_o king_n can_v be_v cut_v off_o but_o as_o for_o the_o first_o war_n i_o have_v tell_v you_o the_o author_n of_o it_o to_o your_o next_o if_o we_o must_v call_v none_o episcopal_a man_n that_o be_v not_o faithful_a to_o their_o principle_n then_o i_o know_v not_o indeed_o who_o i_o may_v call_v such_o if_o party_n must_v be_v notify_v by_o their_o fidelity_n we_o shall_v have_v agree_v thus_o to_o sense_n the_o word_n before_o we_o have_v dispute_v for_o other_o man_n speak_v not_o thus_o do_v you_o think_v i_o cite_v moulin_n against_o philanax_n to_o prove_v that_o our_o principle_n be_v better_a than_o the_o papist_n have_v you_o read_v he_o all_o and_o understand_v he_o no_o better_o i_o cite_v he_o as_o full_o prove_v historical_o that_o the_o place_n now_o charge_v with_o presbyterianism_n and_o rebellion_n geneva_n holland_n etc._n etc._n have_v change_v this_o government_n before_o or_o on_o other_o account_n flanders_n and_o brabant_n join_v with_o holland_n in_o the_o change_n the_o main_a body_n be_v papist_n who_o after_o fall_v off_o when_o the_o prince_n of_o orange_n mention_v liberty_n of_o religion_n and_o for_o geneva_n pag._n 27._o he_o faith_n my_o business_n be_v to_o vindicate_v the_o reformation_n from_o the_o charge_n of_o rebellion_n i_o must_v take_v from_o the_o reformer_n of_o geneva_n that_o aspersion_n that_o they_o expel_v their_o bishop_n and_o that_o they_o alter_v the_o constitution_n of_o that_o state_n and_o both_o these_o ascribe_v to_o calvin_n it_o be_v a_o tradition_n receive_v in_o england_n as_o a_o currant_n and_o undoubted_a truth_n a_o fair_a credit_n to_o the_o prelatists_n honesty_n and_o historical_a veracity_n and_o upon_o that_o ground_n many_o fine_a and_o judicious_a inference_n be_v build_v but_o it_o be_v like_o the_o story_n of_o the_o phoenix_n and_o the_o sing_n of_o swan_n never_o the_o true_a what_o credit_n can_v be_v give_v to_o history_n of_o thing_n bapn_v in_o the_o indies_n 2000_o year_n ago_o if_o in_o thing_n do_v so_o late_o and_o so_o near_o we_o gross_a mistake_v go_v for_o uncontrollable_a truth_n you_o know_v with_o who_o i_o say_v it_o be_v utter_o false_a that_o calvin_n be_v one_o of_o the_o planter_n of_o the_o reform_a religion_n at_o geneva_n false_a also_o that_o he_o or_o the_o reformer_n at_o geneva_n turn_v their_o bishop_n out_o of_o door_n and_o false_a also_o that_o the_o bishop_n go_v away_o upon_o the_o quarrel_n of_o religion_n the_o bishop_n be_v flee_v eight_o month_n before_o the_o reformation_n see_v his_o conspiracy_n discover_v to_o oppress_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o city_n by_o the_o help_n of_o the_o duke_n of_o savoy_n for_o which_o his_o secretary_n be_v hang_v after_o he_o be_v go_v the_o say_a bishop_n be_v hate_v before_o for_o the_o rape_n of_o a_o virgin_n
people_n that_o feel_v their_o need_n and_o regard_v eternity_n choose_v before_o he_o such_o a_o one_o as_o hildersham_n rogers_n dod_n preston_n etc._n etc._n he_o declare_v they_o not_o only_a sinner_n but_o rebel_n against_o christ_n and_o no_o christian_n iv._o his_o recital_n of_o the_o particular_a controversy_n in_o the_o end_n take_v so_o little_a notice_n of_o my_o former_a answer_n to_o he_o and_o do_v but_o pour_v out_o much_o of_o the_o same_o that_o i_o resolve_v hereafter_o to_o take_v as_o little_a notice_n of_o what_o he_o shall_v say_v that_o ring_n on_o like_o a_o bell_n and_o have_v all_o tongue_n and_o no_o ear_n he_o be_v full_a of_o his_o own_o that_o must_v come_v out_o he_o can_v stop_v it_o and_o his_o oil_n increase_v by_o pour_v out_o he_o be_v full_a than_o before_o and_o have_v no_o room_n for_o the_o reception_n of_o what_o he_o great_o need_v there_o be_v a_o law_n against_o lie_v to_o which_o we_o must_v conform_v or_o truth_n plead_v for_o peace_n against_o the_o many_o falsehood_n of_o a_o un-named_n impleader_n who_o pretend_v to_o answer_v several_a write_n of_o the_o author_n richard_n baxter_n chap._n i._o prefatory_n our_o accuser_n advantage_n §_o 1._o i_o know_v when_o i_o write_v for_o christianity_n the_o soul_n immortality_n against_o popery_n perjury_n lie_v covenant_v against_o reformation_n and_o when_o i_o write_v against_o antinomianism_n anabaptism_n schism_n that_o all_o that_o i_o have_v so_o write_v be_v easy_o answer_v by_o male_a or_o female_a at_o age_n or_o under_o age_n learned_a or_o unlean_v for_o nature_n and_o parent_n teach_v mankind_n to_o talk_v betimes_o and_o we_o have_v many_o school_n to_o teach_v they_o to_o read_v and_o write_v and_o i_o hear_v by_o my_o neighbour_n when_o they_o fall_v out_o about_o interest_n or_o word_n that_o without_o a_o school_n or_o university_n they_o can_v attain_v to_o copious_a fluent_a pungent_a oratory_n to_o describe_v each_o other_o as_o all_o that_o be_v nought_o and_o prove_v all_o so_o undeniable_o by_o vehement_a asseveration_n or_o oath_n that_o he_o shall_v pass_v for_o criminal_a that_o will_v not_o take_v their_o word_n for_o demonstration_n and_o what_o a_o advantage_n and_o improvement_n will_v it_o be_v to_o this_o natural_a promptitude_n and_o fluency_n if_o one_o be_v but_o hire_v or_o engage_v to_o the_o work_n by_o a_o hundred_o or_o a_o thousand_o pound_n a_o year_n yea_o and_o also_o by_o the_o stream_n and_o interest_n of_o the_o army_n or_o sect_n in_o which_o he_o be_v list_v by_o heart_n and_o hand_n and_o by_o such_o necessitating_a interest_n of_o reputation_n contrive_v by_o the_o lister'_v as_o that_o accuse_v other_o shall_v seem_v a_o necessary_a diversion_n of_o the_o charge_n from_o himself_o and_o of_o his_o conscience_n from_o disquiet_v he_o like_v she_o that_o be_v call_v a_o continual_a drop_n but_o yet_o if_o academical_a education_n shall_v train_v man_n up_o to_o the_o degree_n of_o master_n or_o doctor_n of_o the_o talk_n and_o contend_v trade_n what_o a_o elevation_n of_o the_o faculty_n will_v it_o be_v and_o yet_o all_o this_o be_v little_a to_o the_o pondus_fw-la of_o a_o inbred_a enmity_n to_o the_o thing_n first_o and_o consequent_o to_o the_o person_n who_o they_o be_v to_o make_v and_o prove_v intolerable_a and_o there_o i●_n one_o that_o unseen_z can_v prompt_v and_o furnish_v they_o with_o material_n of_o all_o sort_n yea_o and_o help_v their_o subtlety_n vehemency_n and_o most_o fearless_o asseve_v ration_n i_o have_v hear_v of_o a_o cambridge_n doctor_n ●●_o the_o chair_n that_o be_v call_v the_o certain_a infallible_a doctor_n that_o be_v so_o far_o from_o seem_v to_o know_v what_o doubt_v be_v that_o he_o take_v he_o for_o intolerable_a that_o be_v not_o of_o his_o opinion_n and_o it_o be_v like_a bonner_n and_o gardiner_n be_v such_o and_o that_o it_o be_v much_o of_o the_o roman-catholick_n infallibility_n for_o sure_a they_o dare_v not_o wrack_n burn_v and_o massacre_n and_o ruin_v all_o sort_n for_o that_o which_o they_o do_v not_o think_v themselves_o certain_a of_o yea_o and_o certain_o necessary_a to_o the_o noble_a end_n of_o unity_n government_n and_o peace_n §_o 2._o to_o talk_v it_o out_o to_o the_o last_o with_o these_o infallible_a talker_n be_v a_o task_n for_o one_o that_o have_v as_o many_o tongue_n as_o all_o they_o and_o be_v as_o ready_a a_o linguist_n and_o that_o be_v like_a to_o overlive_v they_o and_o that_o have_v no_o better_a work_n to_o do_v and_o that_o think_v that_o they_o will_v read_v or_o hear_v he_o without_o the_o ferment_n of_o tumify_v impatient_a pride_n or_o else_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o save_v the_o endanger_a people_n from_o seduction_n to_o overtalk_v the_o seducer_n in_o length_n and_o number_n of_o word_n and_o that_o soul_n be_v still_o unsafe_a and_o loose_a to_o the_o truth_n as_o long_o as_o there_o be_v any_o to_o talk_v against_o it_o i_o confess_v that_o if_o you_o will_v hive_n the_o swarm_n aright_o it_o be_v usual_o necessary_a that_o with_o a_o loud_a noise_n you_o drown_v the_o voice_n of_o the_o misleader_n but_o i_o have_v no_o such_o sound_a voice_n i_o be_o not_o for_o the_o celeusma_n cannon_n and_o gun_n with_o the_o shout_n of_o the_o multitude_n and_o that_o on_o the_o high_a ground_n can_v easy_o silence_v i_o or_o drown_v my_o voice_n reason_n speak_v not_o so_o loud_o as_o these_o §_o 3._o i_o be_v late_o where_o it_o be_v make_v a_o question_n whether_o mr._n kettleby_n and_o such_o other_o bookseller_n be_v not_o enemy_n to_o their_o own_o trade_n by_o print_v such_o book_n as_o the_o impleader_n mr._n hinkley_n mr._n cheyney_n etc._n etc._n the_o affirmer_n say_v it_o will_v make_v book_n as_o contemptible_a as_o ballad_n and_o no_o body_n will_v regard_v and_o buy_v they_o as_o when_o news-book_n be_v weighty_a and_o credible_a most_o buy_v they_o but_o when_o beggarly_a forger_n take_v up_o the_o trade_n you_o may_v hear_v the_o hawkers_o cry_v a_o book_n a_o book_n a_o book_n news_n great_a news_n and_o no_o body_n regard_v they_o this_o therefore_o will_v break_v the_o bookseller_n at_o last_o the_o opponent_n answer_v set_n but_o the_o supposition_n right_a and_o you_o will_v see_v how_o you_o confute_v yourself_o you_o suppose_v most_o man_n to_o be_v wise_a than_o which_o nothing_o be_v more_o false_a if_o you_o hear_v not_o christ_n and_o paul_n hear_v seneca_n saying_n a_fw-la wise_a man_n must_v be_v content_a of_o few_o approver_n it_o be_v the_o gainfull_a way_n that_o the_o bookseller_n can_v have_v take_v what_o book_n sell_v better_a than_o playbook_n ballad_n and_o romance_n and_o book_n of_o tale_n and_o compliment_n and_o jest_n what_o bookseller_n break_v fast_o than_o those_o that_o confine_v their_o trade_n to_o rare_a piece_n of_o antiquity_n learning_n reason_n and_o serious_a piety_n do_v not_o man_n pay_v dear_a for_o a_o place_n in_o a_o playhouse_n than_o in_o the_o church_n and_o i_o have_v oft_o hear_v some_o gentile_a son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n say_v that_o they_o can_v profit_v more_o by_o a_o play_n than_o by_o a_o sermon_n you_o think_v that_o such_o book_n will_v make_v the_o book-sellers-shop_n like_o the_o toy-shop_n and_o what_o if_o they_o do_v will_v there_o not_o be_v child_n and_o indulgent_a parent_n while_o the_o world_n last_v what_o shop_n have_v more_o trade_n or_o seldomer_n break_v than_o toy-shop_n that_o sell_v baby_n and_o puppet_n and_o hobby-horse_n and_o pipe_n etc._n etc._n and_o those_o that_o sell_v periwig_n pide-silk_n and_o ribbon_n you_o think_v that_o the_o bookseller_n shop_n will_v grow_v like_o alehouse_n and_o tavern_n which_o sober_a man_n will_v rare_o visit_v and_o what_o if_o they_o do_v let_v those_o sober_a man_n pass_v by_o do_v such_o house_n want_v custom_n the_o throat_n will_v be_v the_o throat_n still_o and_o mirth_n will_v be_v mirth_n and_o the_o light_a head_n shall_v be_v the_o great_a number_n and_o this_o prevail_v §_o 4._o i_o must_v serious_o profess_v that_o i_o find_v in_o our_o present_a controversy_n that_o my_o opponent_n and_o accuser_n have_v a_o great_a advantage_n of_o i_o and_o such_o as_o i_o see_v no_o great_a probability_n to_o overcome_v i_o mean_v in_o the_o quality_n as_o well_o as_o the_o number_n of_o their_o hearer_n and_o reader_n 1._o can_v i_o expect_v that_o man_n of_o great_a wealth_n and_o power_n and_o honour_n and_o who_o will_v still_o fain_o be_v great_a shall_v be_v as_o willing_a to_o believe_v that_o those_o be_v in_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n and_o righteousness_n who_o be_v by_o law_n judge_v what_o we_o be_v judge_v and_o adjudge_v to_o such_o reproach_n and_o punishment_n and_o that_o go_v under_o the_o censure_n suspicion_n and_o contempt_n as_o we_o have_v here_o long_o do_v
and_o be_v hunt_v and_o lay_v in_o jayl_n with_o rogue_n 2._o can_v i_o expect_v that_o man_n that_o never_o be_v studious_a or_o bookish_a especial_o in_o matter_n of_o divinity_n and_o holiness_n but_o have_v be_v breed_v up_o in_o fullness_n and_o pleasure_n in_o courtship_n and_o converse_n with_o such_o as_o themselves_o who_o will_v take_v he_o for_o a_o fanatic_a that_o do_v but_o talk_n much_o and_o serious_o of_o heaven_n or_o scripture_n or_o thing_n divine_a that_o scarce_o ever_o hear_v what_o a_o nonconformist_n have_v to_o say_v for_o himself_o nor_o ever_o serious_o examine_v the_o cause_n or_o read_v a_o book_n which_o open_v their_o case_n in_o all_o their_o life_n i_o say_v can_v i_o expect_v that_o such_o shall_v be_v able_a or_o willing_a to_o understand_v we_o i_o mean_v not_o as_o if_o all_o be_v such_o but_o it_o have_v be_v my_o hard_a hap_n to_o meet_v with_o few_o person_n even_o of_o gentile_a education_n who_o ask_v i_o why_o do_v you_o not_o conform_v that_o do_v not_o present_o show_v i_o in_o conference_n that_o they_o be_v quite_o out_o of_o their_o element_n when_o they_o meddle_v with_o such_o matter_n and_o talk_v of_o thing_n which_o they_o never_o study_v or_o understand_v and_o indeed_o do_v not_o think_v it_o belong_v to_o they_o but_o to_o the_o church_n and_o that_o be_v to_o those_o churchman_n that_o the_o king_n and_o the_o patron_n please_v to_o choose_v which_o make_v the_o papist_n say_v the_o laity_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n cry_v down_o our_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n believe_v when_o they_o do_v the_o same_o by_o their_o own_o churchman_n the_o question_n be_v but_o whether_o it_o be_v our_o churchman_n or_o they_o that_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v and_o when_o king_n be_v on_o out_o side_n it_o be_v our_o churchman_n that_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v and_o when_o they_o be_v on_o their_o side_n it_o be_v they_o and_o mr._n hutchinson_n alias_o berry_n speak_v harsh_o when_o he_o say_v in_o print_n that_o there_o be_v so_o little_a of_o conscionable_a religion_n in_o the_o people_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o if_o one_o be_v but_o touch_v with_o the_o conscience_n of_o religion_n he_o turn_v puritan_n o●_n papist_n i_o show_v he_o the_o injury_n of_o his_o speech_n but_o i_o will_v he_o have_v much_o less_o occasion_n for_o it_o dr._n stillingfleet_n tell_v i_o that_o there_o be_v scarce_o an●_n of_o his_o hearer_n or_o reader_n how_o mean_a soever_o ther●_n capacity_n be_v but_o can_v discern_v the_o weakness_n of_o no_o evasion_n i_o dwell_v near_o the_o verge_n of_o his_o parish_n i_o have_v talk_v with_o some_o of_o his_o auditor_n and_o inquire_v of_o many_o other_o and_o i_o think_v very_o he_o be_v more_o in_o the_o right_n than_o i_o at_o first_o believe_v for_o i_o find_v that_o abundance_n of_o his_o auditor_n hear_v he_o some_o once_o some_o twice_o some_o thrice_o a_o year_n and_o some_o of_o they_o know_v not_o whether_o christ_n be_v god_n or_o man_n or_o both_o or_o whether_o he_o have_v a_o humane_a soul_n or_o what_o a_o man_n differ_v from_o a_o beast_n nor_o what_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o many_o if_o any_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n and_o i_o be_o persuade_v these_o who_o he_o call_v of_o the_o mean_a capacity_n be_v the_o likely_a man_n to_o discern_v the_o weakness_n of_o my_o argument_n i_o have_v talk_v also_o with_o divers_a of_o his_o reader_n and_o i_o find_v that_o they_o understand_v this_o much_o that_o dr._n stillingfleet_n write_v his_o sermon_n against_o the_o nonconformist_n and_o that_o he_o be_v a_o dean_n and_o may_v be_v great_a and_o be_v a_o man_n that_o can_v talk_v with_o any_o of_o we_o it_o may_v be_v some_o that_o i_o have_v not_o meet_v with_o know_v more_o as_o be_v of_o a_o high_a form_n and_o some_o few_o i_o have_v meet_v with_o that_o indeed_o know_v more_o and_o those_o lament_v the_o doctor_n be_v undertake_v and_o when_o they_o have_v read_v my_o answer_n or_o account_n confess_v that_o they_o can_v justify_v his_o charge_n can_v i_o but_o tell_v how_o to_o get_v most_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o know_v what_o religion_n be_v and_o to_o be_v serious_o of_o any_o religion_n and_o to_o understand_v baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n the_o creed_n lord_n prayer_n and_o ten_o commandment_n how_o bold_o shall_v i_o expect_v their_o christian_a sense_n and_o candour_n in_o our_o cause_n but_o till_o then_o i_o confess_v that_o the_o accuser_n have_v the_o advantage_n of_o we_o and_o their_o book_n unread_a will_v do_v more_o than_o we_o §_o 5._o and_o it_o be_v a_o great_a advantage_n which_o they_o have_v get_v by_o the_o oxford-act_n of_o banish_v above_o five_o mile_n from_o city_n and_o corporation_n all_o that_o swear_v not_o as_o be_v there_o require_v for_o though_o the_o king_n wisdom_n and_o clemency_n have_v let_v down_o he_o floodgate_n and_o somewhat_o stop_v the_o impetus_fw-la of_o the_o clergy-stream_n yet_o it_o be_v many_o year_n before_o nonconformist_n dare_v be_v open_o see_v in_o city_n or_o corporation_n much_o less_o at_o court_n or_o among_o great_a man_n and_o modesty_n and_o prudence_n yet_o oblige_v they_o to_o abstain_v from_o the_o presence_n of_o their_o superior_n where_o the_o law_n forbid_v it_o so_o that_o the_o ear_n of_o country-nobles_a and_o most_o of_o our_o ruler_n hear_v but_o what_o our_o accuser_n say_v and_o have_v no_o knowledge_n of_o our_o cause_n but_o as_o describe_v by_o they_o who_o description_n be_v many_o of_o they_o no_o more_o credible_a than_o if_o they_o say_v that_o we_o be_v turk_n §_o 6._o and_o their_o art_n have_v get_v we_o to_o such_o a_o straight_o that_o whether_o we_o speak_v or_o be_v silent_a we_o be_v guilty_a and_o whatever_o we_o do_v except_o swear_v say_v and_o do_v as_o they_o require_v it_o shall_v turn_v to_o our_o accusation_n for_o instance_n do_v some_o think_v that_o dr._n stillingfleet_n be_v in_o the_o right_n that_o pronounee_v damnation_n without_o repentance_n against_o they_o that_o prefer_v not_o the_o pure_a church_n and_o thereupon_o come_v not_o to_o the_o parish-assembly_n against_o such_o they_o cry_v out_o separatist_n schismatic_n prepare_v for_o rebellion_n away_o with_o they_o execute_v the_o law_n but_o if_o other_o do_v as_o i_o do_v who_o daily_o join_v with_o the_o parish-church_n in_o all_o their_o worship_n and_o communicate_v in_o their_o sacrament_n and_o oppose_v separation_n some_o say_v such_o be_v like_o ap●_n that_o be_v the_o ugly_a creature_n though_o like_v unto_o man_n while_o they_o be_v not_o man_n and_o other_o say_v we_o know_v not_o what_o to_o make_v of_o mr._n b._n he_o be_v neither_o flo●_n nor_o fish_n he_o be_v like_o one_o that_o will_v go_v one_o step_n on_o one_o side_n the_o hedge_n and_o another_o on_o the_o other_o side_n to_o avoid_v uniformity_n and_o the_o man_n be_v not_o altogether_o mistake_v i_o profess_v that_o i_o once_o make_v it_o the_o most_o earnest_a action_n of_o my_o life_n to_o have_v prevent_v the_o build_n of_o a_o separate_a wall_n or_o a_o divide_v thorny-hedge_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o this_o part_n of_o the_o vineyard_n of_o christ_n to_o separate_v one_o part_n of_o the_o faithful_a minister_n and_o people_n from_o the_o rest_n and_o that_o i_o earnest_o desire_v to_o see_v that_o wall_n or_o hedge_n pull_v down_o that_o christ_n flock_n among_o we_o may_v be_v one_o and_o i_o will_v do_v the_o best_a i_o can_v whilst_o i_o live_v to_o get_v it_o down_o that_o there_o may_v be_v no_o such_o separation_n and_o see_v this_o be_v a_o work_n above_o my_o power_n i_o will_v go_v sometime_o on_o both_o side_n the_o hedge_n though_o by_o so_o do_v i_o be_v scratch_v and_o a_o thorn_n in_o the_o flesh_n by_o a_o buffet_n messenger_n of_o satan_n reprehend_v i_o but_o reverend_a doctor_n hear_v my_o reason_n it_o be_v not_o to_o avoid_v uniformity_n but_o separation_n i_o be_o a_o catholic_n and_o not_o a_o sectary_n i_o be_o for_o communion_n with_o the_o universal_a church_n if_o you_o will_v hedge_v in_o one_o corner_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n another_o and_o the_o separatist_n another_o and_o so_o other_o sect_n that_o must_v have_v their_o peculiar_o and_o turn_v christ_n house_n into_o your_o several_a chamber_n and_o his_o common-field_n into_o your_o little_a enclosure_n and_o then_o say_v keep_v only_o in_o our_o room_n and_o go_v into_o no_o other_o keep_v only_o in_o our_o enclosure_n and_o go_v not_o on_o the_o other_o side_n of_o the_o hedge_n i_o shall_v tell_v you_o that_o i_o abhor_v your_o separation_n i_o have_v business_n on_o both_o side_n i_o believe_v the_o holy_a catholic_n church_n and_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n and_o not_o only_o your_o
that_o they_o be_v ruin_v if_o we_o be_v but_o suffer_v to_o preach_v christ_n gospel_n and_o to_o live_v out_o of_o a_o jail_n and_o think_v that_o if_o we_o offer_v to_o refel_v the_o slander_n that_o render_v we_o odious_a to_o they_o and_o do_v but_o speak_v for_o our_o ministry_n and_o liberty_n as_o every_o malefactor_n be_v allow_v by_o the_o judge_n to_o speak_v for_o himself_o we_o seek_v the_o ruin_n of_o our_o clergy-accuser_n do_v not_o heathen_n abhor_v such_o injustice_n as_o this_o my_o purse_n be_v less_o to_o i_o than_o my_o ministry_n and_o all_o that_o any_o man_n can_v take_v from_o i_o will_v be_v much_o less_o than_o forty_o pound_n a_o sermon_n and_o yet_o if_o any_o man_n on_o the_o highway_n or_o in_o my_o house_n shall_v not_o only_o take_v away_o all_o that_o i_o have_v but_o afterward_o prefer_v a_o bill_n against_o i_o as_o seek_v their_o ruin_n because_o by_o reason_n i_o entreat_v they_o to_o forbear_v and_o that_o in_o vain_a it_o will_v be_v one_o of_o the_o odd_a case_n that_o have_v come_v into_o westminster-hall_n i_o be_v once_o neighbour_n to_o a_o valiant_a knight_n who_o yet_o be_v so_o gentle_a that_o when_o the_o hooker_n in_o a_o moonshine-night_n be_v hook_v his_o clothes_n and_o good_n through_o the_o window_n and_o he_o lie_v in_o bed_n and_o see_v they_o he_o lay_v still_o and_o mild_o tell_v they_o gentlemen_z this_o be_v not_o well_o do_v these_o thing_n be_v not_o you_o if_o you_o be_v take_v you_o may_v be_v hang_v for_o it_o and_o by_o that_o time_n his_o sermon_n to_o they_o be_v do_v they_o have_v get_v what_o they_o come_v for_o and_o be_v go_v but_o i_o never_o hear_v that_o they_o enter_v a_o suit_n against_o he_o for_o seek_v to_o ruin_v their_o trade_n by_o his_o reprehension_n but_o if_o any_o of_o you_o have_v such_o a_o trade_n as_o will_v not_o endure_v the_o plea_n of_o innocent_a sufferer_n for_o peace_n or_o mercy_n without_o your_o ruin_n i_o will_v some_o one_o that_o you_o have_v more_o regard_n for_o will_v persuade_v you_o quick_o to_o lay_v by_o that_o trade_n lest_o when_o christ_n be_v judge_n and_o say_v inasmuch_o as_o you_o do_v it_o to_o one_o of_o the_o least_o of_o these_o you_o do_v it_o to_o i_o your_o clergy_n will_v not_o save_v you_o from_o his_o sentence_n be_v it_o but_o the_o devour_a of_o widow_n house_n it_o be_v not_o the_o long_a liturgy_n that_o will_v excuse_v you_o by_o a_o legit_fw-la nor_o will_v you_o escape_v with_o burn_v in_o the_o hand_n unless_o repentance_n now_o prevent_v it_o the_o evil_a servant_n that_o stuff_v his_o gut_n and_o beat_v his_o fellow_n presume_v on_o his_o lord_n delay_v you_o know_v be_v threaten_v with_o a_o sharp_a penalty_n §_o 11._o impl._n p._n 4._o no_o person_n of_o any_o note_n that_o i_o have_v hear_v of_o in_o all_o that_o party_n who_o be_v in_o place_n of_o trust_n and_o public_a employment_n do_v on_o the_o late_a test_n refuse_v to_o communicate_v with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n answ_n 1._o how_o far_o do_v your_o hear_n reach_v 2._o how_o many_o of_o that_o party_n have_v you_o know_v in_o such_o place_n of_o trust_n i_o suppose_v you_o know_v when_o the_o test_n in_o the_o corporation-act_n be_v impose_v that_o party_n be_v then_o turn_v out_o of_o all_o corporation-power_n in_o some_o place_n not_o two_o of_o the_o old_a stay_v in_o and_o be_v it_o any_o wonder_n then_o if_o none_o of_o that_o party_n be_v in_o such_o power_n 3._o and_o be_v communicate_v in_o the_o lord_n supper_n all_o the_o conformity_n that_o be_v scruple_v and_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o our_o controversy_n §_o 12._o impl._n when_o all_o our_o unite_a strength_n be_v too_o little_a to_o withstand_v the_o attempt_n of_o our_o common_a adversary_n it_o be_v a_o wonder_n to_o i_o with_o what_o confidence_n and_o what_o design_n he_o shall_v not_o only_o proclaim_v conformity_n on_o the_o minister_n part_v to_o be_v impossible_a but_o endeavour_v also_o with_o all_o his_o might_n to_o withdraw_v the_o laity_n from_o our_o communion_n m._n 14._o answ_n 1._o be_v it_o a_o truth_n that_o one_o that_o hold_v communion_n with_o your_o church_n and_o speak_v and_o write_v for_o it_o and_o dissuade_v none_o from_o it_o do_v endeavour_n with_o all_o his_o might_n to_o withdraw_v the_o laity_n from_o it_o can_v you_o not_o forbear_v this_o ill_a custom_n a_o few_o line_n together_o 2._o exit_fw-la ore_fw-la tuo_fw-la see_v reader_n the_o man_n confess_v the_o need_n of_o our_o unite_a strength_n hold_v he_o to_o that_o word_n and_o i_o repeat_v if_o he_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o tribe_n do_v believe_v that_o it_o be_v moral_o possible_a that_o the_o two_o thousand_o silence_v minister_n and_o all_o that_o come_v after_o they_o shall_v believe_v all_o the_o thing_n which_o i_o name_v in_o my_o plea_n for_o peace_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n which_o many_o scruple_n be_v lawful_a for_o they_o to_o do_v i_o wonder_v not_o at_o any_o confusion_n calamity_n or_o corruption_n that_o shall_v befall_v a_o church_n that_o be_v conduct_v by_o such_o man_n who_o will_v have_v think_v that_o there_o have_v be_v such_o man_n among_o christian_n and_o pastor_n of_o a_o reform_a church_n but_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v many_o such_o that_o think_v it_o moral_o possible_a that_o we_o shall_v all_o believe_v all_o conformity_n lawful_a they_o will_v never_o else_o have_v trust_v so_o much_o to_o mulct_n and_o jail_n as_o to_o think_v their_o church_n undo_v without_o those_o help_n they_o be_v not_o such_o stranger_n to_o sense_n and_o conscience_n it_o be_v the_o wear_n out_o of_o the_o present_a generation_n of_o nonconformist_n and_o allure_a or_o affright_v youth_n from_o follow_v they_o which_o the_o man_n of_o any_o brain_n have_v trust_v to_o judge_n by_o these_o evidence_n of_o this_o man_n wit_n and_o wonder_v 1._o by_o the_o great_a number_n of_o the_o thing_n which_o we_o judge_v sinful_a they_o may_v dispute_v man_n into_o their_o opinion_n in_o some_o few_o difference_n that_o can_v in_o so_o many_o 2._o the_o sin_n fear_v be_v so_o heinous_a as_o that_o conscience_n will_v not_o quick_o universal_o swallow_v they_o 3._o the_o number_n of_o the_o dissenter_n to_o dispute_v a_o few_o man_n out_o of_o their_o judgement_n in_o difficult_a case_n prove_v hard_a much_o more_o many_o hundred_o or_o thousand_o 4._o consider_v the_o quality_n of_o the_o silence_a minister_n can_v they_o think_v that_o such_o man_n as_o anthony_n burges_n sam._n hildersham_n mr._n hughes_n dr._n manton_n dr._n seaman_n etc._n etc._n do_v not_o consider_v what_o they_o do_v neither_o in_o their_o health_n nor_o before_o their_o death_n do_v they_o never_o read_v or_o hear_v what_o may_v be_v say_v for_o the_o new-conformity_n have_v they_o not_o learning_n or_o wit_n enough_o to_o understand_v it_o or_o have_v they_o no_o conscience_n live_v or_o die_v so_o many_o hundred_o that_o after_o their_o best_a inquiry_n and_o hear_v all_o remain_z nonconformist_n be_v unlike_a to_o be_v all_o bring_v to_o conform_v 5._o judge_n by_o old_a experience_n be_v old_a hildersham_n ames_n dod_n and_o hundred_o like_o they_o bring_v to_o conformity_n heretofore_o mr._n sprint_v dr._n burges_n and_o some_o other_o be_v but_o more_o be_v not_o do_v not_o even_o the_o westminster-assemble_o of_o old_a conformist_n forsake_v it_o assoon_o as_o they_o can_v 6._o judge_n by_o the_o change_n of_o the_o case_n and_o the_o write_n even_o of_o the_o old_a conformist_n such_o thing_n be_v put_v into_o the_o new-conformity_n as_o bilson_n hooker_n ʋsher_n and_o other_o old_a conformist_n have_v write_v against_o and_o will_v they_o also_o repent_v and_o change_v their_o mind_n if_o they_o be_v alive_a i_o again_o profess_v that_o i_o be_o bind_v in_o charity_n and_o reason_n full_o to_o conclude_v that_o have_v usher_n bilson_n hooker_n jewel_n preston_n sibbes_n whately_n bolton_n and_o all_o such_o yea_o dr._n jo._n burges_n sprint_v and_o such_o other_o of_o their_o mind_n that_o write_v for_o the_o old_a conformity_n be_v alive_a they_o will_v all_o have_v be_v nonconformist_n to_o our_o new_a imposition_n 7._o judge_n by_o the_o mean_n that_o be_v use_v to_o convince_v we_o be_v there_o any_o thing_n say_v that_o have_v such_o cogent_a evidence_n as_o to_o convert_v so_o many_o hundred_o man_n to_o your_o opinion_n do_v such_o man_n as_o dr._n twisse_n mr._n herle_n mr._n gataker_n mr._n vine_n etc._n etc._n want_v the_o instruction_n of_o our_o present_a lord_n to_o make_v they_o wise_a enough_o to_o conform_v when_o i_o know_v none_o of_o the_o conformist_n write_n that_o have_v so_o much_o as_o name_v some_o of_o the_o thing_n that_o we_o think_v worst_a of_o 8._o judge_n by_o present_a
amend_v and_o abstract_v from_o the_o declaration_n and_o subscription_n require_v by_o the_o act_n of_o uniformity_n be_v better_a to_o be_v assent_v to_o than_o as_o it_o stand_v before_o answ_n 1._o i_o know_v none_o of_o those_o nonconformist_n it_o be_v better_a in_o some_o thing_n as_o the_o translation_n of_o the_o epistle_n and_o gospel_n and_o worse_o to_o they_o in_o other_o 2._o but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o case_n 3._o pag._n 11._o he_o say_v nonconformist_n grant_n that_o it_o be_v better_a to_o submit_v to_o the_o practice_n of_o a_o doubtful_a small_a evil_n than_o to_o forbear_v a_o necessary_a great_a duty_n answ_n this_o i_o answer_v to_o mr._n ch._n i_o know_v one_o of_o they_o that_o grant_v it_o they_o suppose_v that_o a_o doubtful_a evil_n be_v real_o evil_a and_o the_o doubt_n will_v not_o make_v it_o lawful_a or_o better_a but_o less_o evil_a than_o a_o great_a and_o that_o no_o duty_n shall_v ●e_v forbear_v while_o duty_n nor_o evil_n do_v but_o ●e_n must_v not_o forbear_v duty_n till_o we_o can_v do_v it_o without_o adherent_a evil_n but_o we_o must_v do_v our_o best_a to_o forbear_v all-evil_a ibid._n he_o speak_v against_o over-strict_a interpre●tions_n of_o imposition_n answ_n i_o stand_v to_o bishop_n ●anderson's_n solution_n who_o he_o cit_v which_o ●e_v in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o first_o plea_n for_o peace_n pag._n 12._o 4._o he_o say_v practice_n be_v the_o best_a ezounder_n of_o the_o law_n many_o law_n be_v word_v for_o terrorem_fw-la iniquum_fw-la petere_fw-la ut_fw-la quod_fw-la aequum_fw-la est_fw-la ferant_fw-la lex_fw-la non_fw-la curate_n minima_fw-la neither_o the_o lan_n of_o god_n or_o man_n be_v solicitous_a about_o circumstance_n and_o the_o lesser_a punctilio_n answ_n 1._o when_o they_o either_o comprehend_v the_o least_o in_o general_n or_o name_v they_o particular_o we_o think_v they_o extend_v to_o they_o and_o that_o he_o that_o break_v one_o of_o the_o least_o and_o teach_v 〈…〉_z all_o be_v call_v lest_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o ●●●●_o mat._n 5._o 2._o the_o seven_o thousand_o minister_n and_o more_o that_o conform_v to_o the_o new-made_a law_n 1662._o do_v not_o stay_v till_o practise_v expound_v it_o 3._o and_o who_o practice_n must_v it_o be_v that_o be_v the_o exposition_n when_o your_o practice_n much_o much_o differ_v 4._o i_o think_v you_o abuse_v the_o law_n and_o lawgiver_n by_o make_v they_o first_o injust_a iniquum_fw-la petendo_fw-la and_o next_o unintelligible_a and_o last_o open_v a_o door_n for_o disobedience_n pag._n 13._o 5._o he_o note_v that_o we_o be_v not_o agree_v what_o be_v unlawful_a in_o conformity_n answ_n 1._o nor_o be_v we_o agree_v of_o all_o forbid_a in_o god_n law_n must_v we_o therefore_o forbear_v no_o sin_n 2._o we_o be_v agree_v as_o far_o as_o i_o know_v of_o all_o the_o many_o particular_n enumerate_v in_o the_o plea_n deliver_v we_o from_o what_o we_o be_v agree_v against_o 3._o the_o bishop_n of_o england_n be_v not_o agree_v in_o how_o many_o thing_n we_o must_v differ_v from_o the_o papist_n all_o be_v not_o for_o so_o much_o of_o they_o as_o the_o greek_n or_o as_o grotius_n or_o bishop_n bromhal_o or_o mr._n thorndike_n or_o will._n forbes_n of_o edinburgh_n be_v for_o and_o what_o of_o that_o must_v not_o popery_n be_v renounce_v till_o you_o be_v all_o herein_o agree_v 53._o pag._n 14._o he_o note_v what_o i_o say_v of_o the_o root_n of_o the_o first_o difference_n between_o the_o old_a nonconformist_n and_o conformist_n one_o part_n cleave_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o other_o be_v for_o retain_v all_o that_o come_v in_o before_o 600_o and_o common_a to_o they_o with_o the_o greek_n which_o say_v he_o doubtless_o be_v the_o sound_a opinion_n so_o that_o the_o foundation_n of_o nonconformity_n be_v lay_v on_o a_o false_a principle_n and_o they_o that_o build_v thereon_o frequent_o raise_v sedition_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o they_o that_o think_v each_o mutable_a circumstance_n of_o worship_n must_v have_v a_o particular_a command_n in_o scripture_n err_v but_o there_o be_v few_o such_o at_o least_o of_o any_o learning_n but_o those_o that_o take_v the_o law_n of_o god_n in_o nature_n and_o scripture_n for_o the_o only_a and_o perfect_a universal_a law_n do_v not_o err_v 2._o so_o many_o corruption_n in_o doctrine_n worship_n and_o discipline_n come_v in_o before_o 600_o and_o be_v retain_v by_o the_o greek_a church_n that_o we_o can_v make_v that_o the_o measure_n of_o our_o reformation_n if_o you_o be_v for_o all_o that_o be_v common_a to_o the_o papist_n and_o greek_n how_n prove_v you_o that_o you_o may_v silence_n and_o imprison_v all_o that_o be_v not_o 3._o and_o if_o this_o be_v the_o rule_n you_o be_v yet_o ill_o reform_v it_o be_v more_o than_o three_o and_o three_o ceremony_n and_o addition_n which_o you_o yet_o want_v which_o the_o papist_n have_v i_o can_v name_v such_o a_o catalogue_n as_o may_v make_v englishman_n better_n understand_v what_o your_o conform_v principle_n be_v and_o what_o must_v be_v further_o expect_v when_o you_o be_v able_a and_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n will_v tell_v we_o when_o once_o england_n be_v of_o the_o greek_a religion_n how_o possible_a it_o be_v to_o step_v over_o to_o the_o pope_n but_o why_o do_v not_o the_o church_n of_o england_n conform_v to_o the_o greek_a church_n now_o if_o it_o be_v so_o great_a a_o duty_n as_o will_v warrant_v the_o silence_v and_o imprison_v of_o refuser_n i_o hear_v but_o of_o few_o that_o grow_v in_o love_n with_o their_o worship_n since_o the_o greek_n have_v a_o church_n in_o london_n especial_o scholar_n that_o understand_v they_o 4._o but_o what_o if_o the_o first_o nonconformist_n err_v what_o be_v that_o to_o we_o any_o more_o than_o to_o you_o we_o reverence_v the_o primitive_a example_n more_o than_o they_o and_o never_o take_v they_o for_o the_o master_n of_o our_o faith_n 5._o your_o charge_n of_o their_o sedition_n be_v much_o more_o sharp_o lay_v on_o the_o protestant_n in_o general_a by_o pateson_n the_o image_n of_o both_o church_n and_o by_o philanax_n anglicus_n and_o many_o other_o than_o you_o lay_v it_o on_o the_o old_a nonconformist_n and_o all_o party_n can_v talk_v at_o that_o rate_n against_o other_o as_o pryn_n do_v of_o prelate_n treason_n §_o 4._o pag._n 15._o of_o assent_n and_o consent_v to_o all_o thing_n and_o subscription_n that_o nothing_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n 1._o he_o tell_v we_o what_o man_n have_v subscribe_v 2._o that_o we_o must_v allow_v it_o a_o just_a and_o favourable_a construction_n answ_n i_o grant_v that_o worthy_a man_n have_v subscribe_v and_o that_o as_o favourable_a a_o construction_n must_v be_v make_v as_o will_v stand_v with_o truth_n and_o justice_n but_o this_o do_v we_o no_o good_a §_o 5._o pag._n 16._o impl._n all_o lawgiver_n do_v leave_v to_o the_o judge_n and_o magistrate_n a_o power_n to_o interpret_v the_o doubtful_a letter_n of_o the_o law_n and_o to_o mitigate_v the_o rigour_n of_o its_o execution_n in_o order_n to_o the_o public_a good_a answ_n 1._o i_o have_v answer_v this_o to_o mr._n cheney_n there_o be_v a_o interpretation_n which_o give_v we_o the_o general_a oblige_a sense_n of_o the_o law_n which_o conscience_n must_v judge_v by_o if_o we_o will_v subscribe_v and_o this_o belong_v only_o to_o the_o lawgiver_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v and_o there_o be_v a_o interpretation_n which_o only_o direct_v the_o judicial_a sentence_n in_o this_o or_o that_o man_n particular_a case_n as_o whether_o he_o shall_v be_v punish_v as_o guilty_a or_o not_o and_o this_o be_v it_o that_o belong_v to_o the_o judge_n if_o the_o judge_n will_v put_v a_o false_a sense_n on_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n and_o supremacy_n i_o may_v not_o take_v they_o in_o that_o sense_n their_o expository_n power_n must_v direct_v their_o own_o sentence_n and_o that_o the_o execution_n but_o if_o i_o be_v put_v to_o swear_v or_o subscribe_v myself_o to_o any_o impose_v word_n no_o judge_n can_v absolve_v i_o from_o take_v they_o in_o the_o usual_a sense_n unless_o the_o lawgiver_n give_v another_o this_o be_v our_o rule_n and_o we_o dare_v not_o equivocate_v 2._o as_o to_o your_o confuse_a talk_n that_o magistrate_n can_v dispense_v with_o the_o lesser_a part_n of_o the_o law_n it_o be_v useless_a to_o i_o the_o lawgiver_n can_v expound_v suspend_v and_o change_v the_o law_n the_o executive_a magistrate_n can_v suspend_v his_o own_o sentence_n and_o execution_n in_o some_o case_n but_o not_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o law_n nor_o allow_v my_o conscience_n to_o change_v the_o sense_n §_o 6._o impl._n all_o that_o be_v require_v by_o the_o act_n be_v unfeigned_o to_o assent_v and_o consent_n that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o measure_n of_o truth_n and_o goodness_n in_o the_o book_n of_o common_a
if_o you_o mean_v otherwise_o tell_v man_n your_o own_o thought_n but_o if_o you_o will_v any_o more_o be_v believe_v speak_v not_o false_o of_o other_o man_n who_o you_o never_o know_v 3._o the_o old_a translation_n of_o the_o psalm_n be_v still_o use_v unreformed_a do_v you_o not_o assent_v to_o that_o neither_o §_o 15._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o psal_n 105._o 28._o the_o two_o translation_n be_v not_o contradictory_n they_o be_v not_o obedient_a to_o his_o word_n and_o they_o rebel_v not_o against_o his_o word_n because_o some_o translator_n understand_v it_o of_o the_o egyptian_n and_o other_o otherwise_o answ_n and_o have_v the_o text_n those_o contrary_a sense_n if_o not_o be_v not_o one_o of_o they_o contrary_a to_o the_o text_n §_o 16._o impl._n p._n 24._o the_o same_o answer_n will_v serve_v the_o exception_n against_o the_o collect_v of_o the_o old_a book_n which_o for_o divers_a day_n together_o use_v the_o word_n this_o day_n answ_n and_o the_o same_o reply_n will_v serve_v you_o dare_v not_o say_v that_o on_o christmas-day_n whitsunday_n etc._n etc._n this_o day_n signify_v not_o the_o very_a particular_a day_n but_o the_o week_n or_o time_n of_o the_o year_n and_o have_v not_o the_o same_o collect_v the_o same_o sense_n on_o the_o next_o day_n be_v your_o word_n like_o cipher_n that_o change_v their_o power_n by_o such_o addition_n §_o 17._o impl._n little_a reason_n have_v they_o to_o object_n against_o any_o word_n or_o phrase_n in_o the_o liturgy_n who_o be_v still_o fond_a of_o sing_v psalm_n according_a to_o the_o translation_n of_o strenhold_n and_o hopkins_n etc._n etc._n answ_n little_a reason_n have_v any_o man_n to_o be_v forward_o to_o believe_v your_o affirmation_n that_o be_v so_o use_v to_o falsehood_n i_o find_v none_o so_o willing_a to_o use_v other_o version_n as_o they_o that_o you_o say_v be_v fond_a of_o this_o many_o use_v the_o scot_n version_n many_o barton_n some_o rous's_n and_o some_o mr._n patrick_n and_o the_o reason_n why_o they_o no_o more_o forsake_v the_o old_a one_o be_v not_o because_o they_o be_v fond_a of_o it_o but_o lest_o they_o too_o much_o displease_v the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o have_v allow_v no_o other_o and_o those_o that_o be_v apt_a to_o turn_v all_o reformation_n and_o variety_n into_o reproach_n §_o 18._o iv._o to_o what_o he_o say_v of_o the_o apocrypha_fw-la i_o answer_v already_o to_o mr._n cheney_n and_o will_v not_o now_o repeat_v the_o objection_n against_o the_o fiction_n in_o tobit_n be_v bishop_n barlow'_v now_o of_o lincoln_n in_o a_o learned_a m._n s._n write_v to_o satisfy_v mr._n dodwell_n §_o 19_o v._n our_o great_a doubt_n about_o the_o abuse_n of_o godfather_n and_o exclude_v parent_n from_o their_o proper_a office_n he_o say_v nothing_o to_o that_o need_v any_o reply_n but_o what_o be_v in_o the_o book_n which_o he_o answer_v and_o in_o the_o reply_n to_o mr._n cheny_n he_o answer_v as_o if_o he_o understand_v not_o the_o question_n and_o feign_v the_o liturgy_n to_o lay_v that_o on_o the_o parent_n which_o it_o do_v not_o but_o exclude_v they_o from_o it_o and_o lay_v it_o on_o uncapable_a person_n §_o 20._o impl._n p._n 30._o mr._n b._n except_v against_o the_o rubric_n which_o say_v it_o be_v certain_a by_o god_n word_n that_o child_n which_o be_v baptize_v die_v before_o they_o commit_v actual_a sin_n be_v undoubted_o save_v this_o be_v a_o rubric_n and_o never_o come_v to_o use_v in_o the_o public_a worship_n it_o can_v reasonable_o be_v think_v to_o be_v impose_v as_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n on_o other_o but_o only_o as_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o superior_n answ_n i_o perceive_v the_o parliament_n act_n and_o declaration_n be_v to_o you_o a_o mere_a nose_n of_o wax_n it_o mean_v what_o you_o will_v or_o none_o can_v tell_v what_o 1._o be_v rubric_n of_o no_o use_n yea_o those_o that_o determine_v of_o doctrine_n which_o be_v not_o only_a de_fw-fr fide_fw-la but_o matter_n of_o salvation_n certain_a undoubted_a salvation_n of_o all_o baptize_v infant_n what_o be_v of_o use_n if_o these_o be_v not_o 2._o be_v such_o doctrine_n of_o certain_a faith_n no_o part_n of_o the_o book_n nor_o contain_v in_o it_o be_v not_o your_o superiour_n judgement_n impose_v on_o you_o to_o assent_v to_o what_o then_o be_v impose_v to_o be_v believe_v §_o 21._o but_o p._n 31._o he_o cit_v text_n as_o prove_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o article_n answ_n not_o a_o word_n to_o the_o purpose_n he_o seem_v not_o to_o understand_v that_o it_o be_v not_o of_o the_o salvation_n of_o true_a believer_n infant_n that_o we_o doubt_v but_o whetherthis_n be_v true_a of_o all_o without_o exception_n that_o have_v such_o godfather_n as_o we_o that_o take_v not_o the_o child_n for_o their_o own_o even_o the_o child_n of_o atheist_n infidel_n heathen_n mahometan_n etc._n etc._n all_o which_o the_o minister_n be_v bind_v by_o the_o canon_n to_o baptise_v if_o offer_v §_o 22._o vii_o impl._n 31._o mr._n b._n be_v the_o first_o that_o have_v accuse_v the_o church_n of_o england_n of_o institute_v a_o second_o covenant_n of_o grace_n answ_n still_o more_o untruth_n i_o have_v no_o such_o accusation_n it_o be_v but_o for_o make_v and_o impose_v on_o pain_n of_o rejection_n etc._n etc._n another_o sacrament_n or_o a_o sign_n too_o much_o sacramental_a of_o the_o same_o covenant_n of_o grace_n which_o baptism_n be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o 2._o and_o of_o this_o he_o can_v true_o say_v that_o i_o be_o the_o first_o i_o prove_v from_o the_o impose_v word_n and_o end_n that_o it_o be_v appoint_v to_o the_o use_n of_o a_o sacrament_n but_o indeed_o not_o by_o christ_n and_o therefore_o be_v but_o a_o humane_a sacrament_n and_o i_o answer_v his_o objection_n to_o mr._n che._n which_o he_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o he_o cite_v i_o as_o say_n that_o parent_n may_v offer_v their_o child_n to_o baptism_n though_o they_o can_v have_v it_o without_o the_o cross_n it_o be_v the_o minister_n sin_n and_o not_o they_o and_o what_o then_o be_v it_o therefore_o none_o of_o the_o minister_n sin_n 1._o to_o consent_v to_o it_o 2._o to_o use_v it_o 3._o to_o refuse_v to_o christian_a child_n who_o parent_n dare_v not_o submit_v to_o it_o 4._o nor_o the_o bishop_n to_o silence_n minister_n that_o refuse_v such_o conformity_n §_o 23._o p._n 34_o 35._o he_o will_v explain_v the_o rubric_n by_o art_n 27._o those_o that_o right_o receive_v baptisine_n etc._n etc._n and_o christian_a proprietor_n may_v offer_v their_o child_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o the_o canon_n forbid_v the_o minister_n to_o refuse_v any_o as_o aforesaid_a what_o be_v this_o then_o to_o the_o rest_n 2._o right_a coram_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la give_v the_o church_n power_n to_o receive_v they_o but_o it_o must_v be_v right_o coram_fw-la deo_fw-la to_o remission_n etc._n etc._n that_o must_v assure_v their_o salvation_n which_o we_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o child_n of_o atheist_n sadducee_n or_o infidel_n have_v 3._o the_o conformist_n be_v here_o themselves_o divide_v one_o part_n of_o they_o give_v that_o certain_a salvation_n only_o to_o all_o baptize_v infant_n which_o the_o other_o give_v to_o all_o in_o the_o world_n baptize_v or_o unbaptise_v see_v mr._n che._n and_o the_o answer_n §_o 24._o viii_o about_o our_o refuse_v child_n who_o parent_n refuse_v the_o foresay_a crossing_n and_o abuse_v of_o godfather_n he_o say_v p._n 36._o 1._o that_o in_o private_a baptism_n and_o consequent_o in_o other_o case_n of_o necessity_n the_o church_n allow_v the_o omission_n of_o cross_n and_o godfather_n 2._o that_o they_o have_v a_o low_a esteem_n of_o the_o sacrament_n that_o for_o this_o withdraw_v answ_n 1._o your_o consequence_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o canon_n and_o it_o be_v know_v that_o the_o church_n allow_v not_o minister_n to_o forbear_v they_o on_o pretence_n of_o such_o consequence_n 2._o much_o less_o do_v they_o allow_v the_o refusal_n of_o dissenter_n for_o such_o a_o necessity_n 3._o and_o it_o may_v be_v no_o contempt_n of_o the_o sacrament_n when_o man_n be_v afraid_a of_o a_o sinful_a use_n of_o it_o though_o they_o mistake_v 4._o nor_o be_v it_o such_o a_o fault_n of_o the_o receiver_n or_o parent_n that_o will_v warrant_v a_o minister_n to_o deny_v they_o christendom_n or_o a_o sacrament_n by_o yourselves_o judge_v so_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n §_o 25._o p._n 36._o he_o return_v to_o the_o case_n of_o cross_v as_o a_o transient_a image_n in_o worship_n etc._n etc._n i_o think_v few_o will_v judge_v his_o answer_n worthy_a of_o a_o reply_n §_o 26._o p._n 37._o ix_o the_o next_o be_v that_o no_o man_n shall_v come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n without_o a_o full_a trust_n i●_n god_n mercy_n and_o a_o quiet_a conscience_n i_o will_v make_v nothing_o worse_o than_o it_o be_v i_o do_v not_o
think_v the_o imposer_n mean_v that_o all_o man_n shall_v stay_v away_o till_o they_o have_v a_o full_a trust_n and_o quiet_a conscience_n but_o that_o be_v the_o plain_a importance_n of_o the_o word_n here_o therefore_o it_o be_v more_o ill_a word_n than_o ill_a meaning_n which_o i_o do_v deny_v assent_n and_o consent_v to_o §_o 27._o x._o pag._n 38._o about_o compel_v each_o communicant_a to_o receive_v thrice_o a_o year_n he_o say_v 1._o it_o be_v the_o statute_n not_o the_o minister_n 2._o it_o be_v only_o the_o due_o qualify_v answ_n 1._o the_o bishop_n be_v statute-maker_n 2._o nothing_o more_o common_a with_o the_o cannoneer_n than_o to_o call_v to_o magistrate_n to_o execute_v such_o law_n 3._o the_o canon_n and_o liturgy_n require_v it_o 4._o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o it_o be_v only_o the_o due_o qualify_v it_o be_v all_o that_o be_v not_o natural_o but_o moral_o unfit_a that_o be_v that_o be_v at_o age_n and_o have_v reason_n and_o health_n if_o the_o priest_n shall_v put_v away_o any_o as_o unfit_a he_o must_v accuse_v they_o to_o the_o chancellor_n and_o they_o must_v be_v excommunicate_a and_o lie_v in_o jail_n while_o they_o live_v unless_o they_o communicate_v so_o that_o here_o be_v a_o plain_a exposition_n 4._o there_o be_v multitude_n unfit_a to_o communicate_v who_o the_o minister_n can_v put_v away_o that_o be_v they_o not_o constrain_v will_v keep_v away_o themselves_o as_o secret_a atheist_n infidel_n sadducee_n socinian_o arian_n seeker_n secret_a fornicator_n thief_n drunkard_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v conscious_a of_o their_o sin_n and_o impenitence_n but_o rather_o than_o lie_v in_o jail_n will_v all_o communicate_v §_o 28._o impl._n what_o deplorable_a time_n be_v we_o fall_v into_o that_o our_o high_a privilege_n shall_v be_v count_v a_o great_a grievance_n etc._n etc._n answ_n still_o deceit_n 1._o be_v it_o our_o high_a privilege_n to_o have_v unfit_a man_n constrain_v to_o profane_a holy_a thing_n and_o profess_v themselves_o what_o they_o be_v not_o and_o the_o dog_n force_v in_o that_o shall_v lie_v without_o be_v christ_n discipline_n against_o our_o high_a privilege_n 2._o who_o know_v not_o that_o infidel_n sadducee_n and_o wicked_a man_n do_v account_v these_o privilege_n to_o be_v none_o cure_v they_o of_o their_o contempt_n and_o you_o need_v not_o force_v they_o by_o a_o jail_n till_o then_o be_v it_o the_o pastor_n that_o refuse_v such_o till_o they_o voluntary_o seek_v it_o or_o the_o contemner_n of_o these_o privilege_n that_o be_v to_o be_v reprove_v christ_n give_v pardon_n and_o life_n to_o none_o but_o desirous_a consenter_n and_o if_o you_o will_v seal_v and_o deliver_v the_o promise_n of_o it_o to_o those_o that_o will_v but_o prefer_v it_o to_o a_o jail_n and_o make_v up_o your_o church_n on_o such_o term_n we_o dare_v not_o imitate_v you_o the_o church-key_n exercise_v be_v as_o tertullian_n speak_v praejudicium_fw-la futuri_fw-la judicii_fw-la and_o shall_v intimate_v to_o man_n who_o they_o be_v that_o shall_v be_v let_v into_o heaven_n or_o shut_v out_o and_o to_o say_v come_v all_o and_o take_v christ_n pardon_v and_o life_n who_o will_v rather_o take_v the_o sacrament_n than_o lie_v in_o a_o jail_n be_v like_o another_o gospel_n §_o 29._o xi_o the_o pronounce_v salvation_n to_o all_o that_o they_o bury_v save_v the_o three_o except_a sort_n unbaptise_v excommunicate_a and_o self-murderer_n be_v the_o next_o and_o 1._o he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o word_n to_o signify_v salvation_n the_o word_n be_v forasmuch_o as_o it_o have_v please_v almighty_a god_n of_o his_o great_a mercy_n to_o take_v to_o himself_o the_o soul_n of_o our_o dear_a brother_n here_o depart_v and_o we_o give_v thou_o hearty_a thanks_o for_o that_o it_o have_v please_v thou_o to_o deliver_v this_o our_o brother_n out_o of_o the_o misery_n of_o this_o sinful_a world_n and_o that_o we_o may_v rest_v in_o he_o christ_n as_o our_o hope_n be_v this_o our_o brother_n do_v if_o all_o this_o signify_v not_o salvation_n in_o your_o judgement_n it_o do_v in_o we_o we_o accuse_v not_o you_o of_o deceive_a soul_n at_o a_o time_n when_o it_o will_v take_v the_o deep_a impression_n but_o we_o only_o tell_v you_o we_o dare_v not_o assent_v and_o consent_v to_o that_o which_o to_o we_o will_v be_v false_a equivocation_n and_o that_o in_o so_o serious_a a_o thing_n and_o if_o the_o difference_n be_v but_o grammatical_a do_v it_o deserve_v our_o silence_v and_o ruin_n to_o believe_v that_o those_o word_n import_v salvation_n §_o 30._o but_o 2._o he_o say_v christian_n charity_n teach_v we_o to_o hope_v the_o best_a of_o all_o that_o die_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n answ_n it_o be_v not_o christian_a charity_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o christian_a verity_n and_o covenant_n nor_o that_o which_o tend_v to_o undo_v the_o live_n by_o false_a hope_n hobbes_n and_o such_o other_o as_o oppose_v fundamental_o deride_v christianity_n or_o the_o immortality_n of_o the_o soul_n some_o by_o write_v some_o by_o common_a talk_n do_v die_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o have_v hear_v preacher_n lament_v their_o number_n impudence_n and_o increase_n but_o never_o hear_v one_o of_o they_o excommunicate_v nor_o bring_v to_o public_a repentance_n all_o die_v in_o the_o church_n that_o communicate_v rather_o than_o lie_v in_o jail_n and_o be_v ruin_v yea_o thousand_o that_o will_v not_o communicate_v notwithstanding_o such_o severity_n when_o in_o a_o parish_n of_o 8000_o or_o 10000_o communicant_n no_o more_o even_o on_o a_o whitsunday_n than_o about_o 100_o communitate_fw-la though_o the_o minister_n be_v one_o of_o the_o best_a yet_o the_o rest_n be_v still_o in_o your_o church_n we_o desire_v the_o high_a degree_n of_o charity_n but_o such_o a_o judgement_n of_o man_n future_a state_n though_o call_v charitable_a seem_v to_o we_o so_o fearful_o uncharitable_a that_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o great_a thing_n in_o which_o we_o seem_v to_o differ_v and_o i_o will_v not_o show_v the_o rise_n and_o the_o import_n and_o tendency_n of_o it_o lest_o dr._n fullwood_n and_o the_o reflecter_n on_o sacril_n desert_n say_v again_o that_o i_o gather_v too_o hard_a consequence_n from_o our_o difference_n but_o nobis_fw-la non_fw-la licet_fw-la must_v we_o be_v silence_v and_o ruin_v for_o want_n of_o such_o charity_n §_o 31._o xii_o silence_v such_o as_o think_v the_o surplice_n unlawful_a be_v the_o next_o pag._n 42._o and_o he_o say_v if_o any_o man_n against_o such_o authority_n and_o argument_n shall_v think_v the_o surplice_n unlawful_a it_o be_v better_a he_o shall_v be_v silence_v than_o that_o the_o church_n peace_n and_o order_n be_v disturb_v or_o ancient_a law_n abrogate_a answ_n you_o have_v own_v it_o if_o it_o be_v well_o do_v you_o may_v partake_v of_o the_o reward_n if_o ill_a of_o the_o punishment_n qu._n whether_o consent_v so_o to_o silence_n 2000_o and_o 9000_o if_o they_o have_v not_o conform_v will_v not_o make_v your_o reward_n great_a than_o if_o you_o have_v consent_v and_o subscribe_v to_o the_o silence_v but_o of_o one_o his_o blood_n be_v on_o we_o and_o on_o our_o child_n be_v the_o word_n of_o factious_a zeal_n that_o escape_v not_o without_o punishment_n paul_n that_o consent_v to_o the_o death_n of_o stephen_n and_o hunt_v other_o sai_z he_o be_v mad_a yea_o exceed_a mad_a against_o they_o christ_n never_o lay_v the_o order_n and_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o the_o preach_a of_o the_o gospel_n on_o such_o thing_n nor_o ever_o encourage_v any_o to_o do_v it_o of_o which_o see_v bishop_n jer._n tailor_n in_o the_o word_n large_o cite_v in_o my_o second_o plea_n §_o 32._o xiii_o though_o athanasius_n creed_n as_o to_o the_o damnatory_a part_n be_v that_o which_o mr._n dodwell_n scruple_v i_o will_v not_o answer_v this_o man_n equivocate_a exposition_n of_o it_o lest_o i_o be_v think_v to_o tempt_v other_o to_o blame_v the_o creed_n itself_o which_o i_o honour_n where_o he_o say_v p._n 43._o i_o frequent_o and_o false_o accuse_v the_o conformist_n of_o socinian_n or_o antitrinitarian_n doctrine_n let_v he_o tell_v we_o where_o or_o else_o i_o accuse_v he_o as_o a_o false_a accuser_n but_o it_o be_v his_o mode_n §_o 33._o fourteen_o whereas_o all_o must_v assent_v and_o consent_v to_o read_v the_o common-prayer_n every_o day_n of_o the_o year_n if_o not_o special_o hinder_v he_o tell_v we_o what_o reason_n there_o be_v for_o it_o but_o 1._o will_v it_o not_o necessitate_v the_o omission_n in_o many_o place_n of_o more_o necessary_a work_n 2._o what_o encouragement_n have_v we_o to_o embody_n with_o that_o tribe_n who_o all_o consent_n to_o this_o and_o not_o one_o of_o multitude_n of_o they_o do_v it_o be_v such_o conformity_n tolerable_a and_o our_o preach_a intolerable_a without_o it_o §_o 34._o xv._n pag._n 46._o he_o call_v
it_o a_o calumny_n that_o i_o say_v the_o liturgy_n be_v defective_a and_o disorderly_a answ_n i_o do_v in_o 1660._o draw_v up_o a_o catalogue_n of_o the_o mere_a defect_n and_o disorder_n but_o never_o offer_v it_o to_o avoid_v offend_v they_o he_o tell_v we_o 1._o of_o the_o disorder_n of_o the_o directory_n and_o have_v he_o prove_v it_o be_v that_o a_o justification_n of_o the_o liturgy_n 2._o and_o also_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o defect_n and_o confusion_n which_o be_v in_o mr_n baxter_n eight_o day_n exploit_n our_o additional_n or_o reform_a liturgy_n 1661._o when_o as_o neither_o this_o accuser_n nor_o any_o of_o the_o bishop_n or_o dissenter_n than_o say_v one_o word_n of_o particular_a accusation_n against_o it_o nor_o any_o other_o that_o ever_o i_o know_v of_o to_o this_o day_n save_o a_o impertinent_a quarrel_n of_o mr._n roger_n le_fw-fr strange_n that_o we_o use_v not_o more_o impose_v word_n and_o such_o trifle_n §_o 35._o xvi_o next_o come_v the_o profession_n of_o the_o antiquity_n of_o three_o order_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o the_o book_n of_o ordination_n and_o elsewhere_o p._n 47._o and_o he_o cit_v i_o christ_n direct_v p._n 127._o as_o against_o myself_o false_o intimate_v that_o i_o assert_v three_o order_n because_o i_o be_o uncertain_a whether_o there_o be_v not_o divers_a degree_n in_o one_o order_n i_o cite_v out_o of_o spelnian_n the_o canon_n of_o aelfrike_n show_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n even_o in_o time_n of_o popery_n take_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o be_v the_o same_o order_n as_o many_o papists-schoolman_n do_v and_o the_o man_n shall_v have_v know_v that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o bishop_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n that_o i_o mention_v in_o my_o direct_a but_o only_o such_o as_o have_v the_o care_n of_o many_o bishop_n church_n §_o 36._o xvii_o he_o next_o defend_v the_o scenical_a call_n to_o the_o people_n to_o come_v forth_n and_o show_v reason_n why_o the_o person_n may_v not_o be_v ordain_v as_o if_o he_o know_v not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n that_o be_v question_v but_o that_o this_o insignificant_a ceremony_n shall_v be_v set_v in_o the_o place_n of_o the_o ancient_a demand_n of_o their_o free_a consent_n over_o who_o the_o minister_n be_v set_v to_o seem_v as_o if_o they_o have_v still_o that_o liberty_n when_o it_o be_v no_o such_o matter_n nor_o do_v the_o people_n who_o soul_n he_o be_v to_o have_v the_o charge_n of_o know_v any_o thing_n usual_o of_o his_o ordination_n nor_o at_o his_o institution_n which_o set_v he_o over_o they_o have_v they_o any_o call_n nor_o be_v so_o much_o as_o these_o show_v use_v at_o the_o ordination_n of_o bishop_n which_o by_o the_o old_a canon_n be_v void_a without_o the_o people_n consent_n §_o 37._o xviii_o of_o the_o word_n receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n etc._n etc._n he_o say_v less_o than_o mr._n cheny_n who_o i_o have_v answer_v §_o 38._o xix_o so_o have_v i_o there_o answer_v p._n 11_o 12._o what_o he_o say_v for_o the_o oath_n of_o obedience_n to_o archbishop_n bishop_n chancellor_n etc._n etc._n 1._o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o obey_v they_o and_o another_o to_o assent_v to_o the_o oath_n of_o obedience_n 2._o and_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o swear_v obedience_n to_o they_o as_o exercise_v the_o power_n of_o magistrate_n under_o the_o king_n and_o another_o thing_n as_o layman_n exercise_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church-key_n etc._n etc._n and_o i_o have_v elsewhere_o cite_v divers_a old_a canon_n that_o condemn_v such_o oath_n as_o dangerous_a §_o 39_o xx._n in_o the_o 20_o chap._n to_o mr._n cheny_n i_o have_v abundant_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v here_o about_o keep_v man_n from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o inform_v the_o ordinary_a these_o be_v the_o number_n of_o our_o exception_n which_o the_o impleader_n can_v find_v though_o the_o rest_n be_v as_o plain_o write_v §_o 40._o xxi_o as_o for_o our_o objection_n against_o the_o declaration_n and_o oath_n require_v by_o act_n of_o parliament_n because_o it_o be_v not_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o liturgy_n but_o of_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n that_o we_o doubt_v of_o he_o refer_v we_o to_o the_o executioner_n of_o the_o law_n for_o our_o instruction_n their_o natural_a way_n of_o satisfaction_n the_o justice_n and_o jailor_n i_o suppose_v do_v these_o satisfy_v he_o to_o conform_v herein_o do_v he_o take_v such_o argument_n for_o unanswerable_a why_o do_v he_o pretend_v to_o defend_v the_o rest_n which_o be_v impose_v in_o the_o same_o act_n these_o be_v great_a matter_n than_o the_o ceremony_n and_o need_v as_o clear_v a_o justification_n §_o 41._o but_o that_o you_o may_v see_v the_o measure_n of_o his_o knowledge_n he_o can_v tell_v you_o that_o our_o mistake_n be_v wilful_a and_o a_o act_n of_o pure_a malice_n and_o revenge_n answ_n our_o rule_n oft_o mention_v be_v agree_v on_o by_o casuist_n viz._n to_o take_v such_o oath_n promise_n and_o profession_n in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o impose_v maker_n of_o they_o if_o they_o be_v our_o ruler_n and_o unless_o they_o give_v we_o another_o sense_n we_o must_v take_v the_o ordinary_a sense_n that_o those_o word_n be_v use_v in_o to_o be_v they_o therefore_o we_o take_v on_o any_o pretence_n whatsoever_o and_o those_o commissioned_n by_o he_o and_o any_o alteration_n of_o government_n in_o the_o church_n and_o not_o at_o any_o time_n endeavour_v and_o no_o obligation_n on_o any_o other_o person_n as_o well_o as_o assent_v and_o consent_v to_o all_o thing_n contain_v and_o prescribe_v to_o have_v that_o meaning_n which_o not_o only_o our_o parent_n that_o teach_v we_o to_o speak_v and_o our_o master_n and_o dictionary_n and_o the_o use_n of_o such_o as_o we_o hear_v talk_v have_v teach_v we_o to_o take_v such_o word_n in_o but_o also_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o lawyer_n and_o law-book_n which_o we_o be_v acquaint_v with_o unless_o any_o odd_a person_n differ_v from_o the_o rest_n and_o this_o sagacious_a man_n have_v find_v that_o this_o exposition_n be_v a_o wilful_a mistake_n in_o malice_n and_o revenge_n just_o as_o other_o of_o they_o can_v prove_v before_o god_n that_o it_o be_v through_o covetousness_n that_o we_o conform_v not_o viz._n two_o thousand_o minister_n england_n know_v of_o what_o sort_n though_o the_o accuser_n do_v not_o have_v forsake_v all_o church-maintenance_n and_o their_o ruler_n countenance_n and_o put_v themselves_o under_o a_o law_n that_o mulct_n they_o 40_o l._n a_o sermon_n banish_v they_o from_o city_n and_o corporation_n lay_v they_o in_o jail_n etc._n etc._n reproach_v they_o as_o seditious_a and_o all_o this_o in_o covetousness_n malice_n and_o revenge_n i_o have_v see_v a_o child_n throw_v away_o his_o meat_n in_o revenge_n but_o he_o return_v to_o it_o in_o less_o time_n than_o 18_o year_n i_o have_v hear_v of_o a_o woman_n that_o cut_v her_o throat_n and_o another_o that_o drown_v herself_o and_o child_n in_o a_o revengeful_a passion_n against_o her_o drunken_a cruel_a husband_n but_o sure_o if_o she_o have_v 18_o year_n deliberate_v it_o will_v have_v calm_v her_o passion_n but_o that_o 2000_o such_o minister_n shall_v choose_v ruine_v fine_n and_o poverty_n and_o jail_n and_o wilful_o damn_v their_o own_o soul_n by_o sin_n and_o all_o to_o be_v revenge_v on_o parliament_n or_o prelate_n be_v somewhat_o strange_a especial_o when_o it_o be_v that_o which_o that_o parliament_n and_o prelate_n themselves_o be_v please_v with_o who_o choose_v the_o term_n what_o kind_n of_o revenge_n have_v our_o malice_n find_v out_o which_o destroy_v ourselves_o and_o please_v our_o afflicter_n §_o 42._o and_o here_o p._n 55._o he_o fall_v with_o scorn_n on_o my_o book_n of_o concord_n and_o that_o his_o book_n may_v be_v conformable_a to_o itself_o describe_v my_o term_n of_o concord_n by_o downright_a fiction_n and_o falsehood_n as_o if_o he_o have_v think_v none_o will_v ever_o open_v the_o book_n to_o shame_v his_o calumny_n he_o tell_v you_o that_o the_o result_n of_o all_o be_v that_o every_o pastor_n be_v independent_a free_a from_o any_o superior_a to_o control_v he_o and_o have_v a_o arbitrary_a power_n and_o arbitrary_o exercise_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n without_o appeal_n to_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v who_o they_o will_v the_o power_n of_o alter_v the_o law_n in_o church_n and_o state_n etc._n etc._n all_o which_o i_o have_v express_o write_v against_o at_o large_a beside_o what_o i_o have_v write_v 1._o for_o bishop_n in_o each_o church_n 2._o for_o archbishop_n or_o general_a overseer_n 3._o for_o synod_n 4._o have_v it_o be_v no_o more_o than_o what_o i_o have_v write_v for_o the_o magistrate_n govern_v of_o all_o pastor_n and_o church_n it_o will_v prove_v the_o falsehood_n of_o this_o man_n assertion_n yet_o that_o you_o
may_v see_v that_o his_o charity_n and_o his_o veracity_n be_v proportionable_a he_o hence_o infer_v p._n 57_o do_v ever_o any_o bishop_n aspire_v to_o such_o tyranny_n as_o this_o the_o pope_n only_o except_v be_v not_o the_o king_n and_o whole_a nation_n great_o culpable_a not_o to_o trust_v themselves_o with_o the_o ingenuity_n of_o this_o people_n etc._n etc._n answ_n reader_n which_o be_v like_a to_o be_v guilty_a of_o tyranny_n 1._o we_o that_o desire_v no_o power_n but_o to_o plead_v god_n law_n to_o man_n conscience_n 2._o and_o that_o but_o with_o one_o congregation_n and_o 3._o with_o no_o constrain_a unwilling_a person_n but_o only_o voluntary_a consenter_n 4._o and_o to_o rule_v over_o none_o of_o our_o fellow-minister_n 5._o and_o only_o to_o be_v but_o freemen_n as_o schoolmaster_n and_o philosopher_n be_v in_o their_o school_n of_o volunteer_n that_o we_o may_v not_o against_o our_o conscience_n be_v the_o pastor_n of_o the_o unwilling_a or_o such_o as_o we_o judge_v uncapable_a according_a to_o god_n law_n but_o to_o use_v the_o key_n of_o admission_n and_o exclusion_n as_o to_o that_o particular_a church_n 6._o and_o to_o do_v all_o under_o the_o government_n of_o the_o magistrate_n who_o may_v punish_v we_o as_o he_o may_v do_v physician_n schoolmaster_n or_o other_o for_o prove_v maladministration_n and_o drive_v we_o not_o from_o but_o to_o our_o duty_n 7._o and_o to_o be_v ready_a to_o give_v a_o account_n of_o our_o action_n to_o any_o synod_n or_o brethren_n that_o demand_v it_o and_o to_o hear_v their_o admonition_n and_o advice_n yea_o and_o to_o live_v in_o peaceable_a submission_n where_o archbishop_n or_o general-visitor_n be_v set_v over_o we_o and_o upon_o any_o appeal_v or_o complaint_n to_o hear_v and_o obey_v they_o in_o any_o lawful_a thing_n belong_v to_o their_o trust_n and_o power_n 9_o and_o if_o we_o be_v judge_v to_o have_v worngful_o deny_v our_o ministerial_a help_n and_o communion_n to_o any_o we_o pretend_v to_o no_o power_n to_o hinder_v any_o other_o church_n or_o pastor_n from_o receive_v he_o 10._o and_o if_o we_o be_v by_o magistrate_n cast_v out_o or_o affict_v for_o our_o duty_n we_o shall_v quiet_o give_v up_o the_o temple_n and_o public_a church-maintenance_n of_o which_o the_o magistrate_n may_v dispose_v and_o without_o resist_v or_o dishonour_v he_o endure_v what_o he_o shall_v inflict_v upon_o we_o for_o our_o obedience_n to_o god_n this_o be_v our_o odious_a tyranny_n 2._o on_o the_o other_o side_n our_o accuser_n 1._o some_o of_o they_o be_v for_o power_n in_o themselves_o to_o force_v man_n by_o the_o sword_n that_o be_v by_o mulct_n and_o corporal_a penalty_n to_o be_v subject_a to_o they_o or_o be_v of_o their_o church_n and_o communion_n 2._o other_o be_v for_o the_o magistrate_n thus_o force_v they_o when_o the_o bishop_n excommunicate_v they_o 3._o they_o thus_o make_v the_o church_n like_o a_o prison_n when_o no_o man_n know_v whether_o the_o people_n be_v willing_a member_n or_o only_o seem_v so_o to_o escape_v the_o jail_n 4._o they_o will_v be_v such_o force_a ruler_n over_o many_o score_n or_o hundred_o parish_n 5._o they_o will_v have_v power_n to_o rule_n suspend_v and_o silence_v the_o pastor_n of_o all_o these_o parish_n when_o they_o think_v meet_v 6._o they_o hinder_v the_o pastor_n of_o the_o parish-church_n from_o that_o exercise_n of_o the_o key_n aforesaid_a in_o their_o own_o parish-church_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o pastor_n office_n 7._o they_o will_v compel_v the_o parish-minister_n to_o admit_v absolve_v or_o excommunicate_v at_o least_o as_o declare_v other_o man_n sentence_n when_o it_o be_v against_o their_o conscience_n 8._o they_o will_v make_v minister_n swear_v obedience_n to_o they_o and_o bishop_n swear_v obedience_n to_o archbishop_n 9_o some_o of_o they_o be_v for_o their_o power_n to_o excommunicate_a prince_n and_o great_a magistrate_n though_o contrary_a to_o the_o five_o commandment_n it_o dishonour_v they_o 10._o some_o of_o they_o say_v that_o if_o the_o king_n command_v one_o church-order_n or_o form_n or_o ceremony_n and_o the_o bishop_n another_o the_o bishop_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v before_o the_o king_n as_o also_o if_o the_o king_n bid_v we_o preach_v and_o the_o bishop_n forbid_v we_o 11._o and_o they_o say_v that_o their_o censure_n even_o clavae_n errante_fw-la must_v be_v obey_v 12._o and_o that_o he_o who_o a_o bishop_n cut_v off_o from_o one_o church_n be_v thereby_o cut_v off_o from_o all_o and_o none_o may_v receive_v he_o 13._o and_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o set_v up_o patriarch_n metropolitan_o etc._n etc._n to_o rule_v the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o state_n and_o distribution_n of_o civil_a government_n look_v over_o these_o two_o case_n and_o judge_v which_o party_n be_v like_a to_o church-tyrant_n and_o then_o judge_v what_o credit_n be_v due_a to_o such_o accuser_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n in_o this_o age._n §_o 43._o ii_o as_o to_o reordination_n i_o have_v answer_v to_o mr._n cheny_n what_o he_o say_v he_o deceitful_o avoid_v determine_v the_o first_o question_n whether_o they_o intend_v a_o reordination_n or_o not_o whereas_o i_o have_v prove_v 1._o that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v against_o twice_o ordain_v 2._o that_o they_o call_v it_o and_o take_v it_o for_o a_o true_a ordination_n which_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v from_o they_o by_o such_o as_o presbyter_n have_v ordain_v 3._o and_o therefore_o that_o they_o suppose_v the_o former_a null_a 4._o and_o this_o be_v much_o of_o the_o reason_n of_o man_n doubt_v whether_o they_o shall_v receive_v the_o second_o which_o be_v give_v on_o such_o a_o supposition_n but_o this_o man_n be_v little_o concern_v in_o the_o true_a state_v of_o the_o case_n §_o 44._o iii_o what_o he_o say_v of_o the_o minister_n power_n for_o discipline_n be_v answer_v already_o to_o mr._n cheney_n that_o have_v the_o same_o §_o 45._o about_o the_o covenant_n 1._o he_o false_o make_v i_o say_v that_o the_o king_n take_v it_o whereas_o whether_o he_o do_v or_o not_o i_o only_o say_v that_o he_o be_v injurious_o and_o unlawful_o draw_v to_o seem_v to_o own_o it_o and_o declare_v for_o it_o 2._o next_o he_o aggravate_v this_o injury_n and_o who_o contradict_v he_o 3._o he_o plead_v that_o the_o king_n be_v not_o oblige_v by_o it_o to_o make_v any_o alteration_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n answ_n i_o will_v not_o examine_v your_o reason_n the_o king_n never_o make_v i_o his_o confessor_n nor_o put_v the_o question_n to_o i_o why_o then_o shall_v i_o make_v myself_o a_o judge_n of_o it_o and_o why_o must_v my_o ministry_n lie_v on_o a_o thing_n beyond_o my_o knowledge_n but_o be_o i_o sure_a that_o no_o parliament-man_n that_o take_v that_o vow_n be_v bind_v there_o in_o his_o place_n to_o endeavour_v a_o reform_a alteration_n when_o i_o be_o past_a doubt_n that_o much_o be_v needful_a he_o will_v 1._o make_v it_o doubtful_a whether_o it_o be_v a_o vow_n to_o god_n i_o think_v it_o not_o worth_a the_o labour_n to_o prove_v it_o to_o he_o that_o doubt_v of_o it_o after_o deliberate_a read_n it_o 2._o he_o say_v any_o lawful_a endeavour_n be_v not_o deny_v answ_n but_o the_o obligation_n to_o lawful_a endeavour_n be_v deny_v be_v not_o the_o word_n universal_a 3._o he_o say_v the_o covenant_n condemn_v as_o unlawful_a can_v lay_v a_o obligation_n answ_n a_o vow_n to_o god_n unlawful_o impose_v and_o take_v may_v bind_v to_o a_o lawful_a act._n 4._o he_o call_v it_o unnecessary_a alteration_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n answ_n i_o suppose_v i_o shall_v prove_v some_o reform_a alteration_n necessary_a and_o it_o be_v not_o against_o law_n for_o a_o subject_a to_o petition_v for_o it_o or_o a_o parliament-man_n to_o speak_v for_o it_o yet_o when_o the_o man_n seem_v to_o i_o to_o be_v plead_v conscience_n out_o of_o the_o land_n he_o say_v will_v not_o this_o cause_n the_o christian_a religion_n in_o a_o short_a time_n to_o be_v explode_v out_o of_o all_o kingdom_n alas_o poor_a people_n what_o uncertain_a guide_n have_v you_o 5._o he_o conclude_v that_o the_o power_n of_o reform_v be_v in_o the_o king_n the_o vow_n be_v null_a answ_n the_o regal_a power_n of_o reform_v be_v only_o in_o the_o king_n to_o change_v law_n without_o he_o be_v usurpation_n but_o parliament-man_n may_v speak_v for_o it_o and_o subject_n petition_n and_o on_o just_a cause_n write_v and_o speak_v for_o needful_a reformation_n and_o i_o speak_v for_o no_o other_o §_o 45._o iv._o about_o not_o take_v arm_n against_o those_o commissioned_n by_o the_o king_n he_o plain_o profess_v that_o we_o must_v not_o distinguish_v where_o the_o law_n do_v not_o and_o if_o it_o be_v a_o unlimited_a universal_a negative_a it_o will_v quite_o go_v beyond_o mainwaring_n or_o sibthorpe_n and_o for_o all_o
whether_o i_o be_v good_a or_o bad_a learned_a or_o unlearned_a let_v this_o be_v determine_v with_o he_o as_o he_o will_n i_o be_o so_o ignorant_a and_o bad_a that_o i_o will_v not_o now_o trouble_v he_o with_o much_o contradiction_n but_o the_o question_n be_v 1._o whether_o the_o two_o thousand_o minister_n be_v just_o silence_v 2._o and_o whether_o if_o they_o wilful_o though_o so_o silence_v desert_n the_o ministry_n to_o which_o they_o be_v devote_v and_o consecrate_a they_o will_v not_o be_v guilty_a of_o damnable_a sacrilege_n and_o perfidiousness_n if_o the_o man_n will_v speak_v to_o purpose_n to_o this_o question_n it_o be_v like_a that_o some_o one_o will_v confute_v his_o defence_n of_o so_o great_a a_o sin_n when_o i_o be_o pass_v this_o unpleasant_a military_a work_n a_o note_n on_o varney_n book_n against_o the_o dissenter_n from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n instead_o of_o confute_v it_o i_o commend_v the_o read_n of_o it_o to_o such_o as_o will_v see_v which_o side_n have_v fanatic_n it_o declare_v that_o j._n varney_n have_v by_o faith_n pull_v down_o the_o devil_n kingdom_n and_o that_o king_n charles_n 2._o shall_v be_v emperor_n of_o all_o nation_n by_o who_o christ_n will_v govern_v they_o great_a than_o turk_n pope_n or_o french_a and_o the_o way_n be_v the_o dissenter_n from_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n must_v be_v make_v hewer_n of_o wood_n and_o drawer_n of_o water_n and_o must_v pay_v all_o tax_n and_o payment_n of_o the_o land_n to_o maintain_v the_o force_n that_o shall_v preserve_v the_o land_n against_o they_o like_o decimation_n note_n on_o mr._n le_fw-fr strange_n be_v casuist_n uncase_v i_o have_v have_v some_o gentle_a touch_v from_o this_o musical_a band_n heretofore_o which_o i_o find_v not_o myself_o oblige_v to_o answer_v nor_o shall_v i_o now_o say_v any_o more_o than_o this_o i._o that_o he_o that_o fetch_v his_o chief_a sting_n and_o scorn_n from_o a_o book_n and_o the_o leaf_n of_o another_o book_n about_o twenty_o year_n or_o long_o at_o least_o revoke_v and_o obliterated_a show_v that_o if_o with_o austin_n we_o write_v retractation_n such_o man_n will_v turn_v all_o to_o reproach_n ii_o that_o i_o make_v not_o mr._n le_fw-fr strange_n be_v judgement_n the_o measure_n of_o my_o repentance_n or_o retractation_n iii_o that_o i_o have_v never_o have_v the_o school_n of_o he_o and_o so_o never_o teach_v he_o to_o understand_v my_o write_n and_o therefore_o undertake_v not_o that_o thing_n congruous_a shall_v not_o seem_v contradiction_n to_o he_o but_o i_o can_v reconcile_v more_o than_o he_o can_v for_o instance_n 1._o my_o disputation_n of_o scandal_n plea_n second_o reconcile_v what_o he_o dream_v be_v contradiction_n about_o impose_v thing_n evil_a by_o accident_n 2._o i_o can_v reconcile_v the_o king_n have_v power_n about_o the_o circumstance_n yea_o and_o substance_n of_o religion_n and_o yet_o that_o he_o have_v none_o but_o what_o he_o have_v from_o christ_n but_o i_o have_v not_o leisure_n for_o such_o work_n as_o this_o iu_o mr._n le_fw-fr strange_a quite_o mistake_v the_o nonconformist_n question_n as_o the_o reflecter_n do_v as_o if_o hiss_v and_o sting_a be_v dispute_v he_o seem_v to_o make_v the_o question_n to_o be_v whether_o i_o be_v not_o a_o giddy_a mutable_a self-contradicting_a fool_n and_o knave_n let_v he_o in_o that_o believe_v what_o please_v himself_o our_o question_n be_v whether_o silence_v fine_v imprison_v the_o nonconformist_n be_v the_o way_n of_o peace_n and_o of_o the_o desire_a concord_n of_o protestant_n yea_o whether_o concord_n be_v possible_a on_o those_o term_n and_o they_o will_v ever_o end_v our_o sad_a division_n note_n on_o a_o dialogue_n between_o the_o pope_n and_o a_o fanatic_a mr._n l._n strange_n dialogue_n mind_v i_o of_o this_o for_o it_o be_v a_o book_n not_o to_o be_v forget_v the_o scope_n of_o it_o be_v to_o show_v that_o the_o nonconformist_n be_v design_v to_o destroy_v the_o king_n that_o their_o principle_n be_v rebellious_a that_o they_o have_v so_o far_o prevail_v already_o that_o we_o must_v have_v no_o king_n or_o no_o parliament_n which_o yet_o be_v needful_a and_o the_o genius_n of_o the_o parliament_n thus_o corrupt_v the_o king_n must_v choose_v his_o own_o councillor_n and_o take_v the_o choice_n from_o the_o people_n to_o this_o sense_n and_o all_o the_o loyal_a subject_n must_v give_v their_o hand_n and_o list_v or_o engage_v themselves_o to_o defend_v the_o king_n against_o these_o conspirator_n just_o the_o meal-tub_n plot_n but_o my_o second_o plea_n be_v write_v to_o answer_v such_o as_o this_o and_o i_o leave_v the_o full_a answer_n to_o those_o that_o be_v more_o concern_v in_o it_o so_o much_o against_o this_o regiment_n of_o accuser_n turba_n gravis_fw-la paci_n placidaeque_fw-la inimica_fw-la qui●ti_fw-la finis_fw-la finis_fw-la alas_o then_o there_o be_v no_o remedy_n