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A23611 A defence of true Protestants, abused for the service of popery, under the name of Presbyterians in a dialogue between A. and L. two sons of the church : where it is debated, whether discenting Presbyterians be as bad or worse than papists : and other popish assertions are detected. 1680 (1680) Wing A1; ESTC R21360 17,633 34

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pag._n 4._o many_o noble_n with_o the_o whole_a clergy_n be_v charge_v with_o public_a and_o dogmatical_a position_n and_o practice_n of_o rebellion_n against_o not_o only_a god_n and_o their_o queen_n but_o oath_n of_o fidelity_n to_o harry_v the_o 8_o 9_o 8_o pag._n 9_o he_o tell_v we_o also_o that_o they_o do_v not_o now_o profess_v these_o position_n because_o they_o be_v not_o under_o prince_n that_o press_v they_o in_o matter_n against_o their_o will_n but_o that_o they_o will_v fall_v to_o they_o again_o if_o they_o be_v pinch_a as_o other_o be_v 117._o be_v mitigation_n pag._n 117._o nay_o they_o be_v bold_a to_o invoulve_v our_o prince_n and_o state_n in_o the_o guilt_n of_o rebellion_n as_o they_o will_v call_v they_o in_o scotland_n france_n the_o neither_o land_n etc._n etc._n as_o have_v their_o chief_n encouragement_n and_o support_v from_o our_o prince_n and_o parliament_n 44._o parliament_n ibid._n p._n 44._o l._n all_o this_o have_v be_v full_o vindicate_v long_o 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