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r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p_o 205._o l._n 23._o deal_n by_o p._n 208._o l._n 1._o r._n eat_v p._n 225._o l._n 20._o r._n and._n p._n 230._o l._n ult_n deal_n if_o p._n 233._o l._n 32._o r._n the._n p._n 237._o l._n 5._o r_o they_o l._n 25._o r._n non_fw-la negant_fw-la p._n 239._o l._n 16._o r._n as_o that_o l_o 23._o r._n the._n p_o 242_o l._n 12._o r._n cabrera_n p._n 249._o l._n 27._o r._n enormity_n l._n 40._o r._n what_o p._n 158._o l._n 20._o r._n retractation_n p._n 262_o l._n 38._o r._n or_o two_o p._n 267._o l._n 17._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 277._o l._n 16._o deal_n of_o p._n 283._o l._n 26._o r._n the._n l._n 28._o r._n this_o p._n 284._o l._n 35._o r._n saint_n p._n 371._o l._n 6._o add_v the._n p._n 376._o l._n 34._o r._n this_o p._n 377._o l._n 21._o r._n it_o p._n 391._o l._n 14._o r._n intimate_v p._n 395._o l._n 20._o deal_n that_o p._n 397._o l_o 25._o r._n the._n p._n 398._o l._n 19_o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 410._o l._n 23._o r._n thesis_n p._n 422._o l._n 6._o r._n think_v p._n 448._o l._n 32._o r._n ridiculous_a and_o so_o elsewhere_o p._n 461._o l._n 4._o r._n it_o l._n 8._o r_o our_o p._n 475._o l_o 5_o r._n have_v p._n 487_o l._n 37._o r._n they_o in_o the_o margin_n p._n 4._o r._n print_n p._n 41_o add_v lib._n 2_o indic_n 11._o p_o 45._o r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 61._o add_v d._n field_n p._n 81._o r._n ut_fw-la vos_fw-la p._n 182._o r._n scr._n p_o 38â—_n r._n do_v 82_o and_o cap._n plurimos_fw-la and_o taraca_n and_o wigorn._n p._n 388._o add_v commun_n p._n 402_o r._n ablutionis_fw-la p._n 473._o r._n greg._n chap._n i._n popish_a cruelty_n sect._n 3_o no_o evidence_n of_o their_o fidelity_n sect._n 4_o 5._o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n be_v for_o the_o destruction_n of_o those_o who_o they_o call_v heretic_n sect._n 6._o which_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o most_o eminent_a papist_n ibid._n i_o can_v forbid_v myself_o to_o wonder_n sect._n 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account_n and_o that_o you_o be_v not_o such_o who_o sojourn_v with_o we_o but_o loyal_a to_o his_o majesty_n what_o security_n will_v you_o give_v we_o shall_v it_o be_v your_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n to_o our_o king_n 571._o fr._n white_a against_o fisher_n p._n 571._o many_o papist_n refuse_v it_o yea_o persecute_v those_o who_o hold_v it_o lawful_a to_o be_v take_v shall_v it_o be_v your_o subscription_n to_o any_o form_n acknowledge_v his_o due_a supremacy_n alas_o do_v not_o we_o know_v that_o 1._o many_o among_o you_o allow_v of_o mental_a reservation_n and_o equivocation_n a_o artifice_n that_o will_v excuse_v and_o free_v you_o from_o the_o most_o accurate_a oath_n imaginable_a and_o what_o if_o you_o swear_v that_o you_o take_v your_o oath_n without_o any_o mental_a reservation_n may_v you_o not_o mean_v any_o that_o you_o intend_v to_o acquaint_v we_o with_o how_o can_v any_o man_n be_v assure_v that_o you_o do_v not_o all_o hold_v these_o mental_a reservation_n see_v you_o 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all_o spurious_a one_o as_o blondel_n himself_o and_o for_o your_o better_a direction_n you_o may_v see_v the_o name_n of_o blondel_n in_o the_o margin_n without_o any_o addition_n of_o book_n or_o chapter_n though_o a_o huguenot_n confess_v the_o prayer_n for_o the_o consecration_n of_o the_o element_n be_v that_o god_n will_v by_o his_o holy_a spirit_n sanctify_v the_o element_n whereby_o the_o bread_n may_v be_v make_v the_o body_n and_o wine_n the_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o for_o this_o he_o cite_v st._n basils_n liturgy_n cyrill_n hieros_n mystag_n catech._n after_o that_o the_o act_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a cyrill_n alexand._n ep._n ad_fw-la calosyr_n and_o greg._n nyssen_n orat._n catech._n and_o here_o we_o have_v all_o that_o pretend_v to_o demonstrate_v this_o change_n except_o optatus_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o altar_n be_v the_o seat_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n now_o the_o mischief_n be_v first_o that_o all_o these_o author_n 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