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A31514 Certaine queries of some tender conscienced christians about the late protestation commended to them by the House of Commons now assembled in the high and honourable court of Paliament [sic] : wherein they desire to bee resolved concerning written by a Learned Divine. Learned divine. 1641 (1641) Wing C1741; ESTC R11082 5,194 14

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alone_o but_o together_o with_o other_o consent_v and_o lawful_o authorize_v the_o same_o i_o understand_v of_o oppose_v in_o the_o next_o clause_n 5._o i_o will_v oppose_v and_o bring_v to_o condign_a punishment_n etc._n etc._n in_o all_o the_o several_a clause_n i_o express_o except_o his_o sacred_a majesty_n and_o his_o lawful_a successor_n according_a to_o my_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n not_o dare_v to_o think_v a_o disloyal_a thought_n much_o less_o to_o lift_v up_o my_o hand_n against_o the_o lord_n anoint_n 6._o i_o will_v never_o relinquish_v this_o protestation_n etc._n etc._n unless_o the_o state_n shall_v think_v it_o expedient_a to_o alter_v or_o revoke_v it_o in_o which_o case_n i_o reserve_v my_o freedom_n finis_fw-la