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A43801 A debate on the justice and piety of the present constitution under K. William in two parts, the first relating to the state, the second to the church : between Eucheres, a conformist, and Dyscheres, a recusant / by Samuel Hill ... Hill, Samuel, 1648-1716. 1696 (1696) Wing H2008; ESTC R34468 172,243 292

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〈◊〉_d to_o any_o other_o conception_n and_o true_o since_o so_o many_o learned_a man_n not_o concern_v in_o our_o case_n have_v have_v various_a notion_n of_o this_o procedure_n i_o wonder_v why_o the_o dr._n be_v so_o earnest_a to_o force_v this_o instance_n to_o a_o absolute_a deprivation_n why_o shall_v he_o be_v fond_a of_o multiply_a example_n of_o lay_n or_o invalid_n deposition_n be_v there_o not_o too_o many_o such_o injurious_a attempt_n at_o the_o few_o but_o we_o must_v needs_o rake_v and_o hale_v in_o more_o than_o real_o be_v to_o swell_v the_o number_n and_o improve_v the_o mischief_n of_o ill_a precedent_n only_o to_o give_v colour_n to_o a_o odd_a and_o invidious_a hypothesis_n be_v the_o baroccian_a trifle_n tanti_fw-la be_v there_o so_o much_o of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o it_o as_o to_o inflame_v the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o be_o afraid_a there_o be_v and_o nothing_o hinder_v the_o present_a accension_n but_o dearth_n of_o paper_n scarcity_n of_o 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