this â—endeth Those irreproueable laâ—ours which the present age admireth and posteritie shall rather â—nuie than equall That admirable facultie wherewithall the Author of â—uerie good gift hath blessed our most heauenly Prelate aboue all the â—onnes of men all is blowne away with a puffe as if it were nothing but froth and to what end but to eleuate his authorite and by bringing his â—erson into dis-esteeme to eneruate â—is writings This is the artifice wherwithall some men at once doe thrust out others and worke themselues into the estimation of the common people But if Wit and Rhetorick be banished what shall succeed in the stead thereof why sound reason and substantiall demonstration Buâ— are these incompatible or is it noâ— Rhetorique argumentatiue as well â— Logick did not Zeno compare Logiâ— to the fist and Rhetorique to the opeâ— hand the one a more strict the other indeed a more apert way â— reasoning and by so much doth Rhetorique the Queene of humane anâ— excell Logicke by how much thâ— open hand is a more elegant form than the shut Hee was some bodâ— â—aâ—rentius 〈◊〉 that thought hee could conuinâ— of error most of the Philosopherâ— for that they wanted Elegancie â— speech Ac mea quidem sententia saiâ— Praâ—at ad lib. 4. 〈◊〉 he si quis ad scribendum in Thedogia accedat parui refort an aliquaâ— aliam facultatem affer at an non niâ—â— enim fere catera conferunt at qui ignarus cloquentiae est hunc indignum â—rorsus qui de Theologia loquatur existimo et certè sols eloquentes columnae Ecclesiae sunt etiam vt ab Apostolis vsque repetas inter quos mihi Paulus nulla alia re eminere quam eloquentia videtur In my opinion if a man come to write in Diuinitie it greatly mattereth not whether hee bring any other facultie or no but if hee bee not Eloquent â—aur Valla. ib. 〈…〉 aâ—ter loqu◠〈◊〉 cogitationes suas liteâ—iâ— mandat in Theologia praesertim â—mpudentissimus est siid conâ—â—â—â—â— sacere se art insamsamus quanquam 〈◊〉 est qui nolâ—te leganter facunde dicere quod cum 〈◊〉 non continâ—iâ— videri volunâ— vt sunt pâ—rueâ—â—â— nâ—lâ—â— aut 〈…〉 debere sic 〈◊〉 he is vnworthy to speake thereof for they are Eloquent men which are the pillars of the Church if wee looke backe to the verie Apostles amongst whom St. Paul excelleth in Eloquence And againe To presume to write Diuinitie without eloquence is impudencie and if it be purposely done madnesse although there is no man but would expresse his conceipts in clegancie of speech which because some cannot attain vnto they pretend such is their peruersenesse that they will not or indeed that they ought not so to speake Let vs then see what discourse that is which hath in it neither finenesse nor wit nor Rhetorique But you will say wee shalâ— haue sound reason and demonstratiue proofe in steed thereof So we hearâ— tell But I assure thee Reader if thou weigh it iudiciously thou wilâ— finde but a little wooll for this greaâ— cry and as the Prouerb saith Pro thesauro carbones in stead â—â— treasure coales and some of them so hot that they burne our fingers iâ— we touch them CHAP. III. Mr. Burtons Argument answered touching the Markes of a true CHVRCH TO come to the disputation iâ— selfe I finde but onely one passage which is like an Argument for the rest that wee may see how good â—n Orator he is in causa Iudiciaâ—â— hee amplifies before hee proues and to shew vs his skill in Logicke he proues that which is granted him inueighing against the impieties of the Church of Rome wherein so long as he speakes the words of soberâ—esse and truth no man will bee his Aduersarie and shewing how iniurious their Doctrines are to the Foundation of our Faith by consequent ouerthrowing it which is nothing to the purpose His onely Argument which hee produceth is delâ—uered in this forme A true visible 7. Vialls p. 34. Church hath the true Markes of a true Visible Church namely pure and sound Doctrine and the Sacraments administred according to Christ his holy institution but these Markes are not to bee found vpon the Church of Rome therefore shee is no true Church This Argument he professeth to take Ibid. from the Doctrine of the Church of England if the Homilies containe any part thereof If Mr. Burton doe doubt of that wee can succour him with the nineteenth Article of Religion the vnquestionable doctrine of our Church where the same words are For answer whereunto we professe that wee esteeme these tokens such genuine Markes of the true Church of God that the more apparant they are in her the more glorious shee is in his sight and the more perfect in respect of her selfe And herewithall wee iustly defend ouâ—selues against the whole Antichristian Band that so long as wee haue that Doctrine which Christ and hiâ— Apostles deliuered vnto his Church purely taught amongst vs and the holy Sacraments rightly administred it is not the want of their vnwritten rotten traditions vnwritten truthes vntrue writings which can take away from vs the Appellation of a true Church Yet we know that these markes are not so essentiall to the true Church that so soone as vnsound Doctrine is mingled with the truth of Gods Word and the Sacraments vnduely administred that which was a Church should cease to bee one The Children of Israel did abide many dayes without a Sacrifice and Ephod c. yet then Hos 3. 4. did not God cease to bee their God nor they to bee his Church The Perkins Cases of Conscience Booke 2. Chap. c. quest 1. Sacrament of Baptisme saith one of note in the lawfull vse thereof is a note whereby the true Church of God is dâ—scerned and distinguished from the false Church not that the Church of God cannot bee a Church without the Sacrament for it may want Baptisme for a time and yet remaine a true Church as well as the Church of the Iewes in ancient times wanted Circumcision for the space of forty yeares Iosh 5. 6. and yet ceased not to bee a true Church and loued of God Thus he Besides wee are giuen to vnderstand See Rogers on the nineteenth Article prop. 8 by the authorized Commentary vpon the Confession of our Church that although the Church of England make these the Markes of the Visible Church yet doth she not so strictly tye the Church to the signes articulate as if all were excluded the Church which doe not rightly participate of the Word and Sacraments for it may fall out that they may bee corrupted as in the times of blindenesse and superstition or intermitted as in persecution Thus this Argument alledged concludes affirmatiuely Wheresoeuer Gods Word is purely preached and the Sacraments duely administred there is a true Church but not negatiuely Wheresoeuer these are not found in such sort as were to be desired there is no
suppose this to be another sound Argument prouing that the Church of Rome doth not directly deny the foundation of our Faith and consequently that wee cannot deny her the name of a Church CHAP. X. Our third Argument prouing from the Baptisme in the Church of Rome that they are a true Church TWo things there are which difference and distinguish the Church of God from the Assemblies of Infidels and Pagans something which she exhibiteth and offereth vnto Almighty God somthing againe which shee receiueth from the hands of his most excellent Maiesty as a pledge and token of his fauour and grace And wee shall finde that the Church hath vsed both of these as a strong argument euen to enforce Almighty God to bee mercifull vnto her in her extreamities That which the Church offereth vnto God is her seruice of him in that she calleth vpon his name and professeth to worship him in Christ acknowledging him to be the Author of all her good and he to whom all praise belongeth Poure out thy wrath vpon the Heathen Psal 79. 6. that haue not knowne thee and vpon the Kingdomes that haue not called vpon thy Name The Church receiueth from God the blessed Sacraments as testimonies of his gratious dignation and fauour as pledges of that inuisible grace which by those visible signes he hath promised to bestow vpon her as seals of the couenant and agreement betwixt God and his Church wherby he hath engaged himselfe that he will be their God and they shall be his people and lastly as badges distinguishing them from all others which carrie not the like vnto them whereby they loue to be knowne Wherefore saith Dauid in the name 1. Sam. 17. 26. of the Church should this vncircumcised Philstime defie the armies of the liuing God What circumcision was of old the same is Baptisme now â—aue that more glorious effects are attributed to this Sacrament of the christian Church the Sacrament of initiation into the Church our incorporaion into Christ the doore of our actuall entrance into Gods house that which both declareth maketh vs christias the benefit wherof is not terminated in our selues but extendeth to our children by vertue whereof our Seede is holy from 1. Cor. â— 12. the verie birth not that grace from baptized parents is deriued by propagation but thus we are to vnderstand it that to all professors of the name of Christ this preheminence aboue infidels is freely giuen that the fruit of their bodies bringeth into the world with it a present interest and right to those meanes where with the Ordinance of Christ is that his Church shall be sanctified It is the Doctrine of the Church of England touching the Sacraments in generall that they are badges and tokens of Article â—5 Christian mens profession And touching Baptisme in particular that it is a siâ—â—e of profesâ—ion and a marke of See 〈◊〉 on tâ—e Artâ—â—les differenâ—e whereby Christian men are discerned from others that be not christened in the 27 Article of Religion If then the administration of the Sacraments distinguish a Church from that which is no Church If Baptisme bee a specificall difference of a christian from him that is no christian how can we deny them of the Romish religion to bee now a Church or with what colour of truth can we deny Papists to be Christians seeing that we take them all to be baptized persons euen as we our selues are for it is an ancient Apostolick aphorisme One Lord one faith one Baptisme Ephes 4. 5. 1. Cor. 12. 13. and by one spirit wee are all baptized into one bodie whether we be Iewes or Gentiles Protestants or Papists I will not now trouble my selfe to proue that Popish Baptisme is true Baptisme till I know who denies it for howbeit some go about to proue it not to be good from their Popish opinion which maketh the intention of the Minister to be of the essence of the Sacrament wherein how soundly they argue I shall hereafter enquire and so the argument may be of force against them yet nothing hinders but that according to our tenents it may bee good all this while Seeing then that out of all question their Baptisme in the Church of Rome is holy and good let them who nick-name the Ordinance of God one while calling iâ— the * 7. Vâ—â—lls pag. 47. Shell of Baptisme another while the * pag. 35. Relique of Baptisme see how they can free themselues from egregious disgrace cast vpon the blessed Sacrament and by rebound vpon Christ the Instituter and Ordainer of it The Pen-men of the Holy Ghost seldom or neuer mention Baptism but withal they attribute â—nto it some effect of speciall grace they teach vs that with water God doth purifie and cleanse his Church they term Baptism a Bath of regeneration â—phes â— 26. Tit. â— 5. they giue men aduice to receiue ouâ—ward baptism perswade them that it doth auaile to remission of sinnes Act â— â—8 which maketh mee suspect that the Spirit of God guided not that penne which could drop forth such vnsauoury words What is Baptisme now a shell fit for no vse but to bee cast away and troden vnder foote is it become a relique a ragge of Popery Surely by as good reason as in another Treatise the signe of the Bâ—iting of the Popes Bull. Crosse is said to bee the marke of the Beast But what Classicall Author haue we for these speeches He that can causlesly obiect vnto others quaintnesse of speech let him produce but one learned and religious 7. Viâ—llâ— page 28. that euer spake or wrote in this manner But I bridle my selfe and returne to my purpose in hand Sacraments are pledges and tokens of Gods loue to his Church their very being and nature consisteth altogether in relation to some such gift and grace supernaturall as God onely can bestow How then should any but the Church administer those Hooker Eccle. Poâ—it lib. 5. Parag. â—0 Ceremonies as Sacraments which are not thought to be Sacraments by any but by the Church For those then which are our Aduersaries in this cause and will not grant Papists to bee so much as Christians they must giue vs leaue till we heare farther from them to thinke this our third Argument drawne from the lawfull Baptisme in the Church of Rome to be vnanswerable CHAP. XI Our fourth Argument taken from the Lawfull Ordination in the Church of Rome OVr Lord and Sauiour when hee had finished the worke of our Redemption euen that great worke which he came into the world to accomplish then hee ascended vp into Heauen to bee the Aduocate of his Church the Mediatour betwixt God and Man where hee is at the right hand of God making intercession for vs. Rom. 8. 34. When he would depriue his Church of his bodily presence he tooke care that she should not sit like a Widow disconsolate and afflicted and therfore when hee
Christianis essent Haeretici audiebant nuper exortus nobis Tortus qui Christianos negat In former times Heretickes were not reckoned amongst Turkes or Iewes or Infidels much lesse amongst Diuels neyther were any called Heretickes but such â—â— were Christians of late some peruersâ— men are risen vp which deny them to be at all Christians But why must we not grant them to bee Christians Because they are not able to demonstrate themselues to bee such But what if they haue not all your facultie of reasoning demonstratiuely shall they be no Christians therefore Can no man bee a Christian except hee bee a Logician But it is further obiected that No Papist can vndoubtedly perswade himselfe that hee is a Christian Ibiâ— pag. 42. and this reason is giuen He is not certaine of the Priests intention in his Baptisme nor yet of the Bishops intention by whom that Priest was ordained Therfore no Papist can be sure whether he bee a Christian or no. Well then for answer to this first it is granted That admission into the Church by Baptisme maketh men Christians Christianitie maketh them a true Church So that all wee haue to doe now is to proue their Baptisme good which if we euince we haue gotten the day First then All that is alledged to make their Baptisme a nullitie is a possibilitie that the Priests intention might bee absent when they were baptized but à posse ad esse non valet consequentia from a possibilitie of the Priests not intending to his not intending actually the Argument followes not So that if this reasoning were found the most that can be concluded from thence is That perhaps Papists are no Christians It is vncertaine whether they be so or no now in things which are doubtfull we are not to learne which way charity should encline But secondly It is vnreasonable that another mans spite or ill-meaning should doe mee hurt Delictum cum capite semper ambulat That mens owne faults are their owne harmes is an vndeniable Rule of Equitie Thirdly It matters not whether the Baptisme according to their Tenents bee good or no you must proue it not to bee auaileable according to vs and according to the Word of God Wee are no Papists whatsoeuer you thinke of vs neyther will we betyed to their opinions There be two things essentiall to Baptisme the Matter and the Forme Water and the words of Christs Institution If with Water they were baptized In the Name of the Father the Sonne and the Holy Ghost their baptisme was good wee care not what become of the Priests intention But fourthly to come home to you Eyther the baptisme in the Church of Rome is true or not if it be true baptisme then haue we gained and you are ouercome if not then it must bee iterated when they turne to vs and so you rush vnawares into the exploded Heresie of rebaptization your ground being the same vpon which the Masters of that error built their opinion which See Hooker Eccles Pol. lib. 3 § 1. was That knowing how the Administration of Baptisme belongeth onely to the Church of Christ they thought that Heretickes are not at all any part of the Church and therefore rebaptized them Dum vitant Docti vitia in contraria Currunt But wherefore doe you now depart from your fore-alledged Classicall Author the learned Dr. Field See our reuerend Bishops Apology who saith that the Church of Rome ministreth the true Sacrament of Baptisme to the saluation of the soules of many thousand Infants This is too grosse an ouer-sight for him that promised nothing but substantiall reason demonstratiue proof Therefore be aduised against another time though the Priests wits bee a wool-gathering let not yours bee so But why trifle we Why should we grant Papists to be Christians Wherefore should not wee grant them that which wee cannot deny them For howsoeuer the Priest at the baptizing or the Bishop at the ordaining had another meaning yet the words Dr Chaloner creâ—â—â—â—â—les Sanct Catâ—ol wherewith they baptized and ordained beeing the words of Christ are to be taken in Christs meaning in as much as hee which receiueth a thing from another is to receiue it according to the intention of the principal Giuer and not the instrumentall Giuer He which conferres Baptisme and Orders as the Principall Doner is Christ the Bishop or Pastor conferres them onely as his Instruments See if this bee not the Catholicke Doctrine of the Church of England in the 26. Article But is it credible that Mr. Burton should bee all this while in iest For he addeth For the bare Name of Christians and a pag. 4â— Church wee will not stand with them What more doe wee require Why contend wee But he kickes it down againe with his heele So they doe not hereupon nor any for them incroach and challenge the beeing and reality yea or the very Visibility of a true Church When you make this sense wee will giue you an Answer The next page I wholly omit as iudging it vnfit for a Christian to vtter against any that beare the Image of God where he doth nothing but compare Papists with the Diuels making them worse contending that the Diuels are as good a Church as the Papists But the ill lucke is that hee cannot proue them Visible CHAP. X. How from the Councell of Trent Mr. Burton would proâ—e that the Church of Rome doth directly deny Christ Iesus TO draw to an end I come now to the head of the Cause wherein he would proue That the Church of Rome not by a circle of Consequence but ditectly denieth Christ Iesus Directly not by Consequence onely directly I say shee denieth pag. 51. and destroyeth the Foundation of Faith I haue borne with him all along hitherto but now I must craue pardon to challenge him for an egregious contradiction Directly not by Consequence onely Can the Foundation bee ouerthrowne both by consequence and directly too None can ouerthrow by Consequence vnlesse they hold directly and can any man both hold directly and deny directly Wherefore then doe you take the paines to proue both vnlesse you meane to declaime rather than to dispute and howsoeuer you would bee thought to neglect Rhetorique affect the praise of Garneades the great Orator who hauing one day preuailed in Court by his Eloquence would come the next day and as strongly mainetaine the contrary Cause Otherwise that which you first alledge to proue that the Church of Rome by Consequence ouerthroweâ— the Foundation destroyes that which you bring in the last place to make it appeare that shee denies it directly and that which would shew her to deny directly makes voyde all that proues her to deny by Consequence And so both former and latter reasoning fall to the ground being nothing worth But that you may confesse and the Readers may see thaâ— you haue a faire Aduersarie wee will pardon you all this and binde our selues to grant
Parts of the true visible Catholicke Church are Churches Nationall as England the Netherlands c. The parts of the Visible Church are eyther sound as the Orthodoxe and reformed Churches or vnsound and diseased as the Greeke Church the Churches of Italie Spaine France c. Members of the true visible Church are all persons baptized who haue not renounced their Baptisme but do still professe him to whom at the first they gaue vp their names To conclude what the nature of the Visible Church is we may conceiue by this exact definition of it that it is a Communitie or Societie of men sanctified Hooker his discourse of iustification through the profession of the truth which God hath taught the world by his Sonne Where by the way let it bee noted that by sanctification is to be vnderstood a separation or distinction from others not professing as they doe as the word is frequently taken in Scripture especially the Old Testament for true holinesse consisteth not in professing but in obeying the truth of Christ CHAP. IV. What we call a true Church TWo things there are which breede diuersities of opinions among men the one the many circumstances wherewithall matters disputable are beset which beeing Hooker lib. 1. Pâ—r. 11. seuerall cause men of sundry wits to be of sundry iudgements the other the not conferring the opinions of those that dissent From whence it hath come to passe that many emulations and heart burnings haue bin noun shed betweene men otherwise learned and pious which afterwards by wise men interposing themselues and comparing the seuerall opinions haue beene happily layd asleepe and the opposites reconciled who after their opinions and assertions were compared together were found in words to differ but in sense and meaning to say the same thing and seemed rather to disagree than to do so indeed The like falleth out in this present controuersie Some haue affirmed and doe maintaine That the Church of Rome so farre forth as she hath the Sacraments and teacheth fundamentall truth is the true Church of Christ the Family of Iesus because they know it meerely impossible that these things should bee found any where without the Church Others beholding the mysterie of iniquitie which worketh in that Church and the many heresies and impieties where withall her doctrine is fraught haue denied the Church of Rome to bee a true Church and in regard of her many corruptions haue thought her hardly to deserue the name of a Church at Whitaâ—er â—e â—câ—leâ—â—a Cap. 1. all These assertions are seemingly repugnant and yet are easily reconciled the former opinion by a true Church vnderstanding a Church that hath those essentiall qualities which concurre to make vp the being of a Church and are as it were the forme of it which according to Philosophy giueth essence and distinction to euery thing though otherwise much deformed and vnsound the latter meaning thereby a Church sound and healthy including within the appellation of a true Church not onely the being simply but the well-being also and all that complement of excellencie and perfection which in this world the Church is capable of So that both sides confesse the Church of Rome to bee a true Church but neither of them that it is an Orthodoxe Church Mee thinkes I might here put a period vnto this discourse and proceede no faither but that the importunitie of some which hath caused me to begin this treatise calleth vpon me to goe forward and enforceth to sift the matter neerer yet who will not thus bee satisfied but as if the church of Rome were wholly and in euerie part Diabolicall and euerie Papist an Antichrist crie in the language of Edome Downe with it downe with it euen to the ground There is no saluattion for awy there euerie 7. Vials passim liuing soule therein perisheth they fight against God plead for Babylon whosoeuer they be that allow them the name of a Church for she hath altogether denied the faith nay cursed it is become worse than an infidell I say vnto them as Christ to his Disciples when their zeale or rather fury transported them Yee know not of what Luk 9. 55. manner of spirit yee are Therefore to giue full satisfaction As we esteeme him to bee a true man to whom the definition of a man Id qâ—â—d absolute de re quaque dicitur ad â—ei essentiam naturanque pertâ—â—â—â—â— quod vero 〈◊〉 id non est râ—i essentiale propâ—iâ— sed potius essentia accessio circumstâ—ntia â—umus lib Singulari de Ecclesia agreeth which is that hee is a liuing Creature endued with reason though otherwise hee bee sicke of a foule disease suppose the Leprosie yea the Plague which is not onely contagious but mortall likewise So we take the Church of Rome to bee a true Church and a part of the true Visible Catholicke Church so farre forth as the definition of the Church aboue giuen is compatible with her though otherwise shee bee miserably deformed and infected which wee haue more than once affirmed This attribute of truth then is to be vnderstood not Morally but Logically So a Thiefe though hee bee not an honest man is yet a true man notwithstanding Yet more fully The Church of Christ may be Musâ—ulus in Epist ad Galat. considered three wayes first Respectu electionis diuinae secondly Respectu obedientiae quam praestat Deo thirdly Respectu iuris Christi in Ecclesiam The Church in regard of diuine praedestination is inuisible as we haue shewed and therfore comes not within the present cause If we consider the Church in regard of her obedience and fealty which she performes towards God the Church of Rome is not the true Church of God she hath rebelled against him and transgressed his Lawes she hath added to his Word and must expect without Repentance that hee will adde to her plagues But in the third place though she be turned aside by her Idolatries and hath wandred from God through her Fornications yet hee hath not lost his right ouer her as ouer those Churches of Constantinople and other parts who long agoe embraced Mahumetisme in stead of Christian Religion Christ hath still Title to the Church of Rome as a Prince vnto his Subiects that are become Rebels whom vpon their Repentance and Amendment he receiueth not as aliens and strangers but as his owne naturall Subiects CHAP. V. What the Foundation of Faith is THe Foundation of our Faith implyeth two things First the generall ground whereupon wee rest when we doe bâ—leeue And thus the fundamentall writings of the Prophets Euangelists and Apostles are the foundation of our Faith Therefore St. Paul telleth vs that the Church of God is built vpon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets â—phe â— 20. More peculiarly the Christian Church is said by St. Iohn to be built vpon twelue foundations and in them Apoc. 21. 14. the names of the twelue Apostles O
that the Church of Rome did as M. Hooâ—er his discourse of iustification soundly interpret these fundamentall writings whereupon wee build our Faith as she doth willingly hold and embrace the same But secondly if the name of foundation doe note the principall thing which is beleeued then that is the foundation of our faith which Saint Paul hath to Timothie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 This 1. Tim. â— 15. is a faithfull saying and worthy of all acceptation that Christ Iesus came into the world to saue sinners That of the Samaritans This is Christ the Sauiour Ioâ—n 4 4â— of the world That of the Apostle God manifested in the flesh iustified in 1. Tim 3. 16. the spirit scene of Angels preached vnto the Gentiles beleeued on in the world receiued vp into Glorie This is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The pillar v. 15. anâ—â—ground of truth vnto which these 〈…〉 words are better referred than to the Church mentioned in the former part of the verse where she hath her appellation glorious enough That she is the House of God The Church of the liuing God For although the Church may bee Columna forensis a Pillar whereon doe hang the Edicts of the Great King which exhibites vnto vs all sauing truth for which cause it is necessary that they bee added vnto the Church which will bee Acts. 2. 47. made capable of saluation yet can she not be Columna architectonica that vnto the truth which a Pillar is vnto the house bearing vp the building for thus the Church is built vpon the Truth not the Truth vpon the Church CHAP. VI. What it is to ouerthrow the Foundation of Faith directly what by consequent WHat the Foundation of Faith is wee haue already seene now because that directly to hold the foundation is so essentiall to the Church of God that without it there can bee no Christian Church and that by our Aduersaries in this cause the denyall of the same is brought as a medium to proue the Church of Rome to bee no true Church it is therefore requisite that wee now enquire what it is directly to deny the foundation and what by consequence to ouerthrow it They ouerthrow it directly which directly deny that Iesus Christ came into the world to saue sinners to whom Christ is an execration as to Pagans and Turkes or they to whom hee is a stumbling blocke and a rocke of offence as the Iewes Other Foundation can no man lay than that which is layd 1. Cor. 3. 11. Iesus Christ St. Paul writing to the Hebrewes and desirous to win them to the acceptation of this Corner stone which their wise builders had reiected as vnfit for building tels vs what it is directly to deny this foundation and withall the hainousnesse of it namely To tread vnder foot the Heb. 10. 29. Sonne of God to count the bloud of the Couenant where withall wee are sanctified an vnholy thing and to do despite vnto the Spirit of Grace This is directly to deny the foundation Of which crime whosoeuer is able let him indict the Church of Rome producing sufficient euidence thereof and whosoeuer shall open his mouth to pleade for them let him be guilty of all the dishonour that euer hath been done to the Sonne of God If any man loue not the Lord Iesus 1. Cor. 16 22. Christ let him bee Anathema Maranatha But vntill such demonstratiue proofe be brought forth I resolue to sit downe and rest my selfe content to take vp his speech of whom it was truly said that he was great in all wise mens eyes but his owne The more M. Hâ—oker his discourâ—e of iustification dreadfull a thing it is to deny saluation by Christ alone the more slow and fearefull I am except it be too manifest to lay a thing so grieuous to any mans charge Thus we see what it is to deny the foundation of Faith directly They ouerthrow it by consequent or indirectly which holding it directly maintaine any one assertion whatsoeuer whereupon the direct deny all thereof may bee necessarily concluded Thus the Galathians holding circumsion did by consequence ouerthrow saluation by Christ in as much as it was impossible that they should stand together Hence the Apostle vrgeth them with such dangerous sequâ—lles If yee bee circumcised Christ Gal. 5. shall profit you nothing Christ is become of none effect vnto you that are iustifiâ—d by the Law c. It was truly said of the Philosopher 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 If one absurdity be granted a thousand will follow and as by long circuit of deduction it may bee that all Hoâ—ker â—â—cle 〈◊〉 2. sub inâ—tio truth out of any truth may bee concluded So by a circle of consequence there is no errour in Diuinity but razeth the foundation Howbeiâ— we make a difference of Heresies and Errours in this kinde some beeing in the next degree to infidelitie as those which deny any one Article of the Creede some such as from whâ—ncâ— the deniall of the Faith may be with facility concluded as those ancient Heresies which strooke neare the head Of Hebion denying the Diuinitie of Christ and Marcion which denyed his humanity Some againe in which ranke are those which the Church of Rome maintaineth which be remoued by a greater distance from the Foundation although indeede they ouerthrow it Now this I dare confidently affirme That no one Heresie which the Church of Rome auoucheth at this day nor all of them together how damnable soeuer they bee in themselues do so nearely raze the foundation of Faith as any one of those broched in elder times by Nestorius Macedonius and the like who yet were neuer said to deny the foundation of Faith directly Thus wee see what it is directly to deny the foundation what also by consequent All infidels deny the foundation of Faith directly by consequent many a Christian man yea whole Christian Churches haue denied it and doe deny it at this present day as the Greeke Church the Churches of the Lutherans the doctrines of Arminius not the Church of Rome onely What Hooker â—is dâ—scourse of iustification Christian Churches the foundation of Christianitie not directly for then they cease to bee Christian Churches but by a consequent in respect whereof we condemne them as erroneous although for holding the foundation wee doe and must hold them Christian CHAP. VII How to distinguish betwixt the Church of Rome and Babylon in the Church and the state of the question in hand WHen Popish Writers demand of vs where our Church was before Luther our Diuines vsually returne them this answer That it was both within the Church of Rome and without it Without it in distinct societies as the Albigenses and Waldenses which arose in France Sauoy and the places neare adioyning from whom descended the Wicklefisles in England and the Hussites in Germany who as soone as the Church of Rome had interpreted her selfe touching some
ascended vp on high he gaue gifts vnto men to some to Eph. 4. â— be Apostles some Prophets some Euangelists for the worke of the Ministery â—nd for the edifying of the Body of Christ To these he gaue his Promise That he would be with them alwaies Mat. 28. 20. to the end of the world Solomon had a Vineyard in Baal hamâ—n hee let it Cant. 8. 11. sorth vnto Keepers This Vine-yard is the Church the Keepers to whose â—â—elage and care our blessed Lord typified in Solomon committed his Church were at the first Apostles and Apostolicke persons their Successours to the worlds end in their function and Ministeriall office 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 men consecrate and set a part for that purpose whose is the power of the keyes and the office of laying on of hands conueying that grace vnto others which themselues haue receiued that so the Church of Christ neuer be destitute Where soeuer there be persons retaining thâ—â— power howsoeuer otherwise exceeding blame-worthy which I ofteâ— inculcate because I would not beâ— mis-vnderstood there wee cannâ—â— deny that there is the true Church of Christ And our Aduersaries â—â— this cause see that they cannot gaine their purpose vnlesse they strip the Church of Rome of this priuiledge There is no Ordination no Ministery 7. Vialls pa. 36. and so downe ward no Baptisme â—â— Christianitie The eares of our Diuines are well accustomed to thoâ—â— importune clamours of our Aduersaries of the Church of Rome botâ— for our Church in former ages â—f you hâ—d a Church before Luther wherâ— were your Pastors and since the reformation finding their cause desperate in the particulars of it they inueigh against our Clergy You haue no calling you haue no more right â—â— meddle in things sacred than yoâ—â— Wiues or Daughters you are no Ministers you runne before you are sent you are Intruders and Theeues that enter not in by the doore of the fold but climbe vp aâ—other way Wolues and Lay-men no Priests and therefore you haue no Sâ—â—râ—ments nor Seruice of God This is the voyce of Bristow Howlet Saâ—ders Câ—â—pian and the rest of that rabble Now if it be obserued what wee answer to the first and bow wee refute the latter calumny it will soone appeare what wee are to determine in this matter First then we affirme That no man hath â—â— doe in this office but hee that is lawfully called thereunto Who euer intruded himselfe with impunitie and without dangerous arrogancie into this functâ—on The hand of Ieroboam is withered and Oziaâ— though a King is smiâ—ten with Leprosie for touching those things which were holy without a calling thereunto This is that whereby wee may discerne the Priests of the Sanctuary from Ieroboams Priests of whom wee reade that whosoeueâ— would might consecrate himselfe Christ suffereth not the Diuell to tell 1. King 13. that he knew him becaâ—se as one nâ—teth Mark 1. 25. hoc presumed without a calling â—â— publish the truth The Diuell could easily espy the want of Commissioâ— in the Sonnes of Sceâ—a when they adiured him by the name of Iesâ—â— whom Paul preached Iesuâ— I acknowledge Acts. 19. and Paul I know bâ—t who aâ—â— yee Your warrant is not good yoâ—â— counterfeit charmes are not strong enough to remoue me The reason is manifest No man taketh this honour to himselfe but hee that is called of God as was Aaron Secondly Heb 5. 4. Wee auerre no lesse confidently that it belongeth vnto the Church onely to send those who shall hauâ— authority in the Ministration of holy things Shee receiued the Keyes at the hands of Christ and to her it appertaines to deliuer them to those that shall vse them Shee hath heâ— Commission As my Father sent me so I send you For this cause I lâ—ft thee in Iohn 20. 21. Creâ—t saith St. Paul to Titus that thou Tit. 1. 5. mightest ordaine Elders iâ— euâ—â—y Ciâ—ie â—â— I appointed thee Without this there can be no Oeconomie nor order in the Church wee should haue as many seuerall opinions as seuerall â—â—n Ordination therefore and laying on of hands the Church hath â—ommanded to be retained and performed with all solemnitie That a Bishop should bee ordained â—â—ther by the whole Prouince or by a Councell or according to the Canon Canon Apost 1. by three or two Bishops at the leâ—st â—he Metropolitane if it be possible beeing present and promoting the businesse What Priesâ—â— and Deacons should bee ordained with dueâ—ites and ceremonies and prayers in the face of the Church that 〈◊〉 people might acknowledge their lawfâ—ll Pastors Thirdly For those thaâ— before Lâ—ther had the Popish tâ—â—sâ— in detestation they might â—cknowledge euen them of the Church Dr. â—ridâ—â—â—x Lâ—ct de Vâ—siâ— Eâ—cleâ—â—a of Rome for their Pastors so farre forth as they had a lawfull calling and preached Christ howsoeuer a for as much as they oftentimes feed others who themselues eate nothing or giue good corne mingled with a great deale of chasâ—e Fourthly and lastly for our Ministery at this day wee answer them That eyther it iâ— Lawfull and Canoâ—icall or else they haue none seeing tâ—at wee haue receiued it from them though they weâ—â— vnworthy to conferre it as they â—â—om their Predecessours and ours in Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction It is worth the while to obserue the impudencie of our Aduersaries iâ— this matter how when they cannot answer vâ— they betake themselues to their wonted trade of lying Thus goes the â—â—le Sâ—ory Sandes and Griâ—dâ—ll say they â—ee by appoâ—â—â—menâ— at the sigâ—e of the Nâ—ggesâ— heâ—â— in Châ—â—pe side to Loâ—den and 〈◊〉 that the old Bishop of Lâ—â—dâ—ffe whâ—â— they expected for their Canonicall Consâ—â—ratoâ—â— had withdrawne himselfe for the threats of â—onner they layed hands one vpon another Our Diuines passe not this ouer in silence but giue a precise and punctuall answer to it Not onely our Reuerend Bishop whose cause wee haue now in hand answering his Egregious Cauiller in that golden Worke of The honour of the married Clergie but diuers others of our choysest Diuines who Dr. Prideaux orat de vocatione Ministror M. Mason in the defence of the Ministry of the Church of England seriously refute this Fable euidently shewing out of the vndeniable Recordes of our Church not onely at what time by whom in what place euery one of the â—orenamed Bishops was Canonically consecrated but also touching B. Iewell Parker and others who preached at the consecration of euery one of these and likewise what were their seuerall Texts And left these turne coates should persist herein and still tickle their Proselytes in the head with this tale our right Reuerend Arch-Bishop that now is caused foure of the learneder sort of their Priests â—â— be brought who beheld and viewed these Recordes before sufficient witnesses and promised to certifie the truth to the rest of their partie Thus we perceiue that it is a thing hitherto vnheard of amongst vs that any Member of
haue beene too prolixe already for which my ensuing breuity shall make amends CHAP. XIII Our last Argument from the iudgement of the Learned ALthough wee iudge what wee haue already deliuered in this cause to bee abundantly sufficient and our arguments such as will not readily bee answered yet because wee would not bee thought to hold that which no one learned or godly hath done before vs and that it may appeare that if to say the Church of Rome is a true Church be to fauour Popery the greatest Aduersaries that euer that Church had haue beene fauourers thereof with whom they must bee content to absolue or condemne vs it shall not be grieuous to vs to alledge the Testimonies of a few whereby it shall appeare that the best learned in our profession are of this iudgement We heard something by the way before of Caluius opinion we shall finde that he is still the same I suppose saith hee that in the Papacie some Church remaineth Calu. Epist 104. a Church crazed or if you will broken quite in peeces forlerne mishapen yet a Church Againe Semisepultus illie Instit lib. 4. cap. 2. Sect. 12. iacet Christus obrutum Euangelium There is Christ halfe buried the Gospell ouerwhelmed with humane traditions I deny her not the name of a Morn de Eccles Church saith another no more than to a man the name of a man as long as he liueth what sickenesse soeuer he hath Heare another of as deepe iudgment as any in our Church I acknowledge Zanch. Praefat. de Relig. the Church of Rome euen at this present day for a Church of Christ such a Church as Israel vnder Ieroboam yet a Church Marke his reason Euery man seeth except hee willingly hoodwincke himselfe that as alwaies so now the Church of Rome holdeth firmly and stedfastly the Doctrine of truth concerning Christ and baptizeth in the Name of the Father the Sonne and the Holy Ghost confesseth and auoucheth Christ for the onely Redeemer of the world and the Iudge that shall sit vpon quicke and dead receiuing true beleeuers into endlesse ioy faithlesse and godlesse men being cast with Sathan his Angels into flames vnquenchable Heare another In hunc modum iudicium facimus de Ecclesiâ in quâ est Papatus â—unius 〈…〉 de 〈◊〉 Deus vocat cam c. This is our iudgement concerning that Church in which the Papecie is God calleth her c. Exparte Dei vocatur adhuc Hammi Populus méus Ruchama misericordiam consequuta quae verissimè enparte suâ Lo-Hammi non Populus meus Lo-Ruchama non assequuta misericordiam potest appellari vt apud Hoseam Prophetam legimus On Gods part sbe is yet called Hammi my People and Ruchama one that hath obtained mercy who for her owne part by reason of her disobedience may truely bee said to be Lo-hammi not my People and Lo-Ruchama one that hath not obtained mercy as wee reade in the Prophet Hosea At ista Ecclesia nihil non habet corruptum Fateor sed quòd Diuiâ—â— habet omnia in Scripturis à Deo est quòd corrupta habet omnia ab ipâ—â est quòd diuina habet omnia Ecclesia est quòd eadem habet corrupta omniâ— Ecclesia corrupta est But that Church hath nothing which is not corrupted I grant it but that shee hath all Diuine truth contained in the Scriptures it is from God that that truth is corrupted is from her selfe in that shee hath all diuine truth she is a Church in that she hath corrupted it shee is a corrupt Church Ecclesia non tollitâ—r corruptione nisi totali vt loquuntur quam vocant interitum Ecclesiam non tollit partialis corâ—â—â—tio sed infâ—â—mat Ecclesia Romana omnia habâ—t corrupta sed non omninò haec non interitus est sed pâ—â—tialis corruptio eius dicanda est The being of a Church is not taken away by corruption vnlesse it be totall as they speake which is the destruction of it Corruption in part doth not destroy the Church but weakens it The Romish Church hath all things corrupted but not altogether c. Let vs come nearer home Though M. Hooker his discourse of Iustificatâ—on the Church of Rome haue played the Harlot worse than euer did Israel yet are they not as now the Synagogue of the Iewes which plainly deny Christ Iesus quite and cleane excluded from the New Couenant Vtrobique Catholica Tortuâ—a Torti pag. 367. fidei professio qua ipsa in professionè non mutamus in quibus nobiscum estis in multis enim nobiscum estis With you and with vs is the profession of the Catholicke faith in which profession we alter not that wherein you agree with vs for in many things we agree Voâ—â—erè cum â—ulta apud vâ—s reâ—iqua sint adâ—uc de Cathotholicae fâ—dei dâ—â—mâ—â—ibus quanquam non nihil sermentata membra quidâ—â— Catholiâ—ae etsi non sâ—na membrâ—dice â—â—uâ—â—inemus pag. 40 saith the late Reuerend Bishop of Winchester And againe Seeing â—hat with you there yet remaine some opinions of the Catholicke faith howbeit somewhat sowred with Popish leauen we are content to account you members though vnsound members of the Catholicke Church Hear another who neuer yet was so much as suspected to fauour Popery Wee must distinguish the Papacy from â— Vsher in a Sermon of the Vniuersalitie of the Church of Christ before the King at Wansted pag. 13. the Church wherein it is as the Apostle doth Antichrist from the Temple of God wherein he fitteth The Foundation vpon which the Church standeth is that common Faith in the vnitie whereof all Christians doe generally accord Vpon this Old Foundation Antichrist raiseth vp his new buildings and layeth vpon it not hay and stubble only but far more vile and pernicious matter c. And after Poperie it selfe is nothing pag. â—6 â—lse but the botch and plague of the Church c. And againe If you demand where pag 30. was Gods Temple all this while the answer is at hand There where Antichrist sate Where was Christs People Euen vnder Antichrists Priests And yet this is no iustification at all either of Antichrist or of his Priests but a manifestation of Gods great power who is able to vphold his Church euen there where Sathans Throne is Reuel 2. 13. And sundry other witnesses might be produced which I had not leasure or opportunitie to enquire into In the meane while I would gladly seâ— the Testimony of but one in estimation for his learning amongst vs that euer affirmed the Church of Rome to deny the foundation of Faith directly The Verdict which the Church of England passeth vpon them is this The Church of Rome hath erred not onely in their liuing and Article 19. manner of Ceremonies but also in matters of Faith but that shee hath denyed the Faith and is become worsâ— than an Infidell I cannot finde to haue beene at any
true Church Thus the maior proposition is answered For the minor which affirmeth That the Cburch of Rome hath not these Markes of a true Church we confesse that Gods Word is not purely taught amongst them but mingled with much drosse and error yet haue they not abolished all truth neyther can wee thinke but that they are much sounder in their Sermons than in their Disputations For the Sacraments it is true they haue defiled the Ordinances of God with their indecent Rites yet can they not hereby make them nullities much lesse by their erroneous opinions â—uacuate the force of them Their Baptisme for the substance of it is holy and good and effectuall no doubt to them that receiue it as ours The Eucharist is to them that partake of it if they be worthy Receiuers a true Sacrament notwithstanding their Teachers opinion of Transubstantiation That they are debarred of the Cup in the holy Communion is the sacriledge of the Masters of that Synagogue and the want thereof shall not be preiudiciall to those that vnfainedly desire it It is a rule of equitie Factum alterius â—lij nocere non debet The faultinesse of others shall not hurt those which doe not so much as consent with them and surely God will neuer lay that to their charge which through the perfidiousnesse of others it lay not in them to auoyde This part of the Reason then proueth the Church of Rome to bee an vnsound Church not no Church And Mr. Burton himselfe who thinks that these markes could not agree to the Church of Rome for these nine hundred yeares past yet denieth not that there was both a Church and Saluation there till the Councell of Trent Thus I hope wee haue giuen full satisfaction to Mr. Burtons greatest and his onely Argument and shewed it to bee neyther substantiall nor demonstratiue The Word of God purely preached and the Sacraments according to Christ his holy institution administred are Markes of the true Church If here by we examine the Church of England shee will appeare glorious and beautifull like Eden the Garden of the Lord if wee vrge them against the Church of Rome they shew her to bee not no Church at all but not an Orthodoxe Church CHAP. IV. Mr. Burtons cauilling at the Reuerend Bishops Similitudes examined FRom hence hee descendeth to examine those speeches which fell from the Reuerend Bishops Pen whiles he would set downe the extents of the differences betwixt vs Old Religion Chap. 1. and the Church of Rome Who iustly blameth those which dislike whatsoeuer is in the Church of Rome counting all Doctrine Popish that by them is maintained and all Discipline Antichristian which by them is vsed as if it were all errour no Church adding these words Neither for the chaffe doe we leaue the floore of God neyther for the bad fishes doe we breake his nets Mr. Burton But if pag. 36. the floore bee not now Gods floore but Antichrists floore where nothing is to bee found but chaffe and if the nâ—tâ— bee no other but such as catch onely the bad fishes which is not the property of Gods nets c. Stay a little Is there nothing in the Church of Rome but chaffe no good corne Pol ego illum perisse dâ—co quoi perijt pudor Is it all chaffe which they teach concerning the Trinitie Is it all chaffe which they teach touching many other fundamentall Points of Christian Religion Those studious endeauours of the Dominicans against the Iesuites maintaining Gods free grace against mans free wil are they all chaffe The Twelue Bookes of Aluarez De auxilijs gratiae which doe so trouble all the Fathers of the Societie is there nought but chaffe in them neither So long as M. Burton hath been in the Ministrie could hee neuer find any good graine amongst the writings of the Iesuites themselues how many sound and orthodox interpretations of Scripture do they lend vs Maldonat Lorinus and the rest if there be nothing but chaffe in them wherefore doe we lay out so much monie to buy their Commentaries It is not long that I haue been a Preacher yet in that short time I thanke God I haue found much good corne amongst them and haue deliuered many things professedly out of them yet neuer hitherto could any man accuse mee of teaching either Heresie or Schisme And doubtlesse hee himselfe is not ignorant hereof though he thinke good to dissemble it Againe It is true it is not the propertie of Gods Nets to catch onely bad fishes nor yet of any nets at all and for no other cause is the Kingdome of heauen that is the Visible Church of God compared to a Net but because that promiscuously it gathereth both good and badde Mat. 13. 47. fishes All truth saith the Bishop wheresoeuer it is found is Gods as the Kings coine is currant though it be found in any impure channell M. Burton True but when the truth of God is turned into Pag. 36. a lie and this lie put for Gods truth then the case is altered Here is a nimble conuersion But if all Men and Deuils should turne Alchymistes were it possible for them to Metamorphose Gods truth into a lie St. Paul speaking of the Gentiles how they abused that light of reason wherewithall God enlighteneth euerie one that commeth into the world and became vaine in their Imaginations saith of them that they changed Rom. 1. 25. the truth of God into a lie which was but a change neither 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not a simple conuersion Thus M. Burton vnlesse you may haue leaue to wrest Scripture your answere is nothing If any man obtrude adulterate money of his owne stamping If a man take the Kings coyne and beaâ—e it into a thinne lease cat pag. 30 in the Kings name let him suffer as a Malefactor but when the Kings currant coine is profered let no maâ— reiect it as base and vicious least hâ— himselfe bee impeached for a Traitor Where by the way note that yoâ— haue already contradicted your selâ—e Euen now all was chaffe in the Church of Rome now Gods truth is there how else can it be pretended how else can they colour ouer lyes with it The Reuerend Bishop proceedes Fundamentall truth is like the Maroâ—ean Wine which if it bee mixed with twenty times so much water holds his strength He is pleased to bee merry with the Bishop and tels him that his Comparison is pretty if it did hold water Your Vibanity Mr. Burton pag. 37. is pretty if your manners were as good But saith hee what if twenty times so much poyson be put to it c What will that hold poyson now which before would not hold water We grant it yet let me tell you that all the poyson in the world cannot be operatiue vpon the truth of God to alter the nature of it Popery is poyson but fundamentall Truth is an Antidote a little quantitie of Antidote that is soueraigne
the faith of euerie particular man much lesse is euerie Idiot chargeable with the damâ—â—blenesse of those doctrines Lastly saith he formerly the Church of Rome was the true Church but had in it aâ— Hereticall faction now the Church iâ— selfe is Hereticall and some certaiâ—e onely are found in it in such degreey Orthodoxie as that wee may hope wâ—â— of their saluation Loe Mr. Burtâ—â— the Church of Rome is now Hereticall not no Church at all for Heresie as wee haue shewed taketh not away the being of a Church and there is hope of some mens saluation liuing in that Communion which you deny in euery page Thus the worthy Deane of Glocester hath not a word against vs but for vs and you are no lesse vnfortunate in your Authorities than before you were in your Similitudes Now vicem redde let vs be as much beholding to you as you are to vs and tell vs what you answer to those formall passages alledged out of the said Reuerend Author in his Appendix See our reuerend Bishops Apology to the Treatise of the Church where hee is clearly for vs That the Romish Church is a part of the Catholicke Church of God shewing it likewise to be the Tenent of the greatest Diuines of our side In this you are silent and passe it ouer siccopede with a dry foote as the Prouerb is And therefore whereas you afterwards tell vs of a many Shels in the pag. 46. Church of Rome the Shell of the Scriptures the Shell of the Creede the Shell of the Sacraments and the like you had done much better to fit downe and cracke nuts than to trouble the world with such empty discourse Nucleum amisit reliqâ—iâ— pignori put omina CHAP. VIII Mr. Burtons exceptions against soâ—e passages in the Reuerend Bishops Apologie THus Mr. Burton hauing done with the Reuerend Bishops Rhetoricall discourse hee comes to take notice of what he hath more seriously layd downe in an Apologeticall aduertisement ioyned to the second edition of his Booke And here whiles pag. â—â— hee expects from the Bishop an ingenuous recantation of his errour loâ— a constant asseueration of the truth and the Reuerend Bishop is heartily pitied that hee is not mutable But consider Mr. Burton that if hee had retracted that which you thinke his errour all your former paints had beene lost and for the rest how would you haue done for a genuine interpretation of St. Iohns meaning in the powring out of the second Viall As for your pity bestow it somewhere else he hath no neede of it rather pity your selfe that it was your lot to fall vpon so weake a cause and to meet with so strong an Aduersarie But let vs see what are his exceptions against the Reuerend Bishops second thoughts First it is not enough for Mr. Burton that hee thus distinguisheth referring Visible to outward Profession True to some essentiall Principles of Christianitie neither of them to soundnesse of beliefe that so though the Church of Rome be a true Visible Church yet is she not a true beleeuing Church Acutely and admirably What reasonable man would not this satisfie Why doth not this please him Because he denieth any being at all to her and pag. 48. that which is not is not Visible Thus nothing but the bloud the life of the Church of Rome will satisfie his zealous thirst But heare what hee obiects Vnder correction is outward Profession a sufficient Marke of Visibility for a Church Ridicule What is Visible in a Church but that which shee professeth Or if you will not referre Visible to outward Profession whereunto will you refer it But this is none of those Markes 〈◊〉 pag. 48. which the Church of England takes notice of a Church by The Word preached and the Sacraments administred make her a Church but her Profession makes her Visible But they are the Synagogue of Sathan which call themselues Iewes and are not and the Samaritans feared God but they serued Idols withall and so doth the Church of Rome therefore it followeth that shee neyther feareth God nor doth after his Lawes True it followeth very well Adde to this that which elsewhere you teach What is it generally to professe Christ and particularly 7. Vâ—alls pa. 25. to haue no interest in him to professe the foundation but not to be built vpon it But all this while you are besides the cause here is an Homonymie you argue from the Church Visible to the Church Mysticall and Inuisible and fallacies Mr. Burton are no demonstrations Many things exclude a man from Heauen as well errours in manners as Faith which doe not exclude him from the Visible Church hee that would haue saluation by true Faith must be made a member of the Mysticall body of Christ Doth not the Reuerend Bishop tell vs that Visibilitie auaileth not to saluation and the Church of Rome that Their danger is more Visible thâ—n their Church Wherein then hath hee offended But to what purpose is it that you entertaine vs with a tedious discourse of the Visible Church all the while neyther telling vs what the Church is nor what is Visibilitie * Thus his dâ—spuâ—ing iâ— nothing but equiuocation all along by these ambiguous proceedings deceiuing the simple whereas a fair distinction if it might take place would make all friends Sometimes indeed you shew vs the Church clad in her glorious apparrell that thereby we may take notice of her but what if Briers rend her cloathes and dirt defile her goodly garments doth shee then cease to be a Church Surely no. Now it being obiected that the Church of Rome holdeth some Essentiall Principles of Christianity first you confesse it then contradicting pag. 4â— your selfe you deny it saying That shee hath professedly abiured Christ thereby also gaine-saying what euen now you granted namely that sheâ— professeth to feare God for how can shee professe to feare him and yet professedly abiure him CHAP. IX Whether Papists be Christians IN the next place Mr. Burton is so oppressed with the weight of the Bishops reasoning that hee sees not which way to turne himselfe Grant the Romanists to bee but Christians how corrupt soeuer and wee cannot deny them the name of a Church This is Gordians knot which because he cannot vntye Alexander-like hee cuts it But why should we grant them pag. 49 to bee Christians Not Christians Of what Sect then are they Iewes or Turkes or Pagans We know no other Sects in the world Nay they are worse than these yea worse than the Diuels themselues as hee affirmes in the next page I neuer yet heard by a sober man that any greater fault than Heresie was layd to their charge Now he that is an Hereticke is necessarily a Christian for he that is not a Christian cannot be an Hereticke Olim qui Haeretici non inter Tureas Epiâ—â—oâ— Winton Tortura Torti pag. 304. aut Iudaeos aut Ethnicos censebantur neque nisi qui de
not sufficient to proue them eyther no Church at all holding as they doe fundamentall truth or a Church not so farre forth sanctified as they hold the same Which wee hope shall appeare plainely and clearely to all CHAP. II. What we thinke of those that line in the Communion of the Church of Rome ALthough I thinke it more needefull for euery man in particular to worke out his owne saluation than to be curious to know the estates of others and apprehending the mercy of God to his owne soule to cry out Domine quis ego sum Lord Iohn 21. 21. who am I that thou shouldest regard me with such fauour rather than like Pâ—ter of Iohn to aske Domine hic autem quid Master what shall hee doe as being too sollicitous of others Neuerthelesse wee who enioy the liberty of the Gospell cannot haue a better occasion to magnifie the goodnesse of God than by remembring Egypt from whence wee are deliuered nor they who are yet detained in the house of Bondage than by seeing their danger to hasten thence Errour in Religion may be no lesse pernicious to the soules of men than sinfulnesse of life and therefore doth so farre forth without Repentance exclude from all possibility of saluation The state of the Church of Rome not only now but for many hundred yeares past hath beene such that the Religion thereof in many parts of it hath beene hereticall and erroneous both for opinion and practice And therefore though the condemnation of some were more tolerable than of others some being Authors others receiuers some Masters others Schollers yet to all without exception from the idiot and handy-crafts man to the Pope and the Colledge of Cardinals plagues were due to our forefathers though they did but erroneously practise what the guides heretically taught If the blinde leade the blinde both fall into the pit of destruction Wee see the danger they all were in from the greatest to the least But was there no way of escape That which I named before Repentance only Repentance may be eyther actuall or generall Actuall Repentance is necessary for all knowne faults for those which wee through ignorance admit a generall Repentance will finde place with God By M. Hooker his discourse of iustification vertue whereof as many as hold the foundation which is precious though they hold it but weakely and as it were with a slender threed although they frame many base and vnsuitable things vpon it things that cannot abide the tryall of the fire yet shall they passe the fiery triall and be saued which indeed haue builded themselues vpon the rocke which is the foundation of the Church Our Fathers then holding the foundation of Faith which for the present I assume I doubt not but God was mercifull to saue thousands of them liuing in Popish superstitions in as much as they sinned ignorantly Yet do we not hereupon make Ignorance the Mother of Deuotion as it is obiected by some because we make â—urtenâ— 7. Vials them nearer to saluation who are held in errour not knowing it than those which pertinaciously defend it being knowne whose very want of learning may by accâ—dent conduce 〈…〉 cum liteâ—â—â— in â—arathrâ—m 〈◊〉 to their eternall good and make a way for them to the mercy of God whiles the others are left without excuse Nor yet because wee hope that God might be mercifull to some that liued in times of errour and blindnesse which it were no impiety to thinke though we had no reason for it are we of opinion That a man may bee saued in any Religion which to Bâ—rtoâ— iâ—id haue named only is sufficient refutation But to conclude let none embolden themselues vpon the mercy of God exhibited to our Fathers there is not the same reason of them and of vs they sinned ignorantly but the truth is now layd before our eyes they might bee saued by a generall Repentance for vs actuall Repentance is needfull Now the voyce from Heauen sounds more shrill in our eares than euer it did Come out of Apoc. 18. 4. her my people that yee be not partakers of her sins and that yee receiue not of her plagues This then beeing premised I will come nearer to the matter in hand viz. Whether they say well who affirme the Church of Rome to bee no true Church and if the Church of Rome deny the foundation of Faith CHAP. III. What we vnderstand by Church here THis terme of Church is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ambiguous and of doubtfull sense none more The ambiguity of the word hath serued some as a fit cloake vnder which they might both shroud their sleights and impostures and likewise â—vâ—nt their deceitfull wares Thus our Aduersaries of the Church of Rome vse the name oâ— the Church like Gorgons head to affright the simple and bring them into subiection no otherwise than the Iewes of old cryed the Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord who themselues of all others had most sacrilegiously polluted it And the Turkes at this day bragge of themselues that they are Muselmanni that is The only true beleeuers who hate euen to the very death Christ and Christian Religion Vnto others who delighted to find out the truth it hath giuen occasion more accurately to distinguish that they might neither enthrall themselues to euery company which boast themselues to bee the Church nor yet withdraw their due reuerence and obedience from the true Church when they haue found her out The word Ecclesia which signifies 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Church in the latitude of the sense thereof may be applyed to signifie any company or congregation any combination or faction whatsoeuer but strictly taken and as it is ordinarily vsed in Scripture by the Church we vnderstand Gods Company the Congregation of the faithfull men called forth and set apart from the â—est of the world which the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 imports and become the Lords peculiar Now the Church which is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Lords portion or houshold hath a double acceptation there is the Church inuisible and the visible Church The Saints in heauen which are the Church triumphant and the true beleeuers vpon earth which are the Church militant these together make vp the inuisible Church which we call inuisible because for one part of it those which are dead in the Lord and receiued into Abrahams bosome they are farre remote from our sense wee see them not The true beleeuers vpon earth which make the other part of the inuisible Church howsoeuer wee are conuersant amongst them and behold their persons yet whether they bee indeede such as to vs they seeme is more than we can know and that their names are written in the Booke of life is a thing past our discerning The visible Church comprehendeth all Christians as many as farre and neare throughout the whole world are baptized into the name of Christ and professe the same