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answer_n to_o the_o epistle_n dedicate_v by_o t._n c._n too_o the_o church_n of_o england_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 1_o a_o epistle_n of_o the_o author_n too_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 17_o a_o exhortation_n to_o the_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a magistrate_n 31_o a_o answer_n to_o the_o preface_n of_o the_o admonition_n 57_o tractatus_fw-la 1._o whether_o christ_n forbid_v rule_v and_o superiority_n unto_o mi_a nister_n 61_o the_o true_a interpretation_n of_o the_o 20_o of_o matthew_n etc._n etc._n reges_fw-la gentium_fw-la etc._n etc._n cap._n 1._o 61_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o place_n math._n 23._o cap._n 2._o 71_o tract_n 2._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n in_o thing_n indifferent_a 76_o some_o thing_n may_v be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n touch_v order_n ceremonies_z discipline_n &_o kind_n of_o govern_v mean_v not_o express_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n chap._n 1._o 76_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o council_n of_o thing_n 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c._n use_v to_o prove_v the_o perpetual_a equity_n etc._n etc._n of_o election_n by_o the_o people_n chap._n 5._o 170_o the_o diversity_n betwixt_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o we_o require_v a_o diverse_a kind_n of_o government_n and_o of_o order_v of_o minister_n chap._n 6._o 174_o that_o bishop_n have_v authority_n to_o admit_v and_o ordain_v minister_n chap._n 7._o 194_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o the_o people_n shall_v have_v interest_n in_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n but_o the_o contrary_n be_v convenient_a chap._n 8._o 211_o tract_n 4._o of_o minister_n have_v no_o pastoral_a charge_n of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o order_v minister_n of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n 216_o of_o minister_n admit_v a_o place_n be_v not_o void_a chap._n 1_o 216_o of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o ordain_v â—i_n nister_n chap._n 2._o 225_o of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n chap._n 3._o 228_o tract_n 5._o of_o residence_n of_o the_o pastor_n chap._n 1._o 235_o of_o plurality_n or_o have_v more_o benefice_n than_o one_o chap._n 2._o 246_o tract_n 6._o of_o minister_n that_o can_v preach_v and_o of_o licence_n to_o preach_v 251_o some_o may_v be_v minister_n that_o can_v preach_v chap._n 1._o 251_o of_o licence_n to_o preach_v chap._n 2_o 254_o tract_n 7._o of_o apparel_n of_o minister_n 256_o the_o cause_n why_o they_o refuse_v the_o apparel_n examine_v chap._n 1._o 256_o that_o minister_n be_v know_v in_o time_n pass_v by_o distinct_a apparel_n chap._n 2._o 261_o that_o the_o magistrate_n may_v appoint_v a_o distinct_a apparel_n for_o minister_n chap._n 3._o 264_o the_o distinction_n of_o apparel_n be_v appoint_v before_o the_o pope_n tyranny_n chap._n 4._o 268_o that_o the_o apparel_n now_o use_v be_v not_o po_n pish_o or_o antichristian_a and_o that_o thing_n invent_v by_o evil_a man_n may_v be_v use_v of_o christian_n chap._n 5._o 271_o diverse_a thing_n concern_v apparel_n in_o other_o place_n of_o the_o answer_v chap._n 6._o 282_o the_o fault_n wherewith_o the_o admonitor_n charge_v the_o apparel_n answer_v chap._n 7_o 283_o tract_n 8._o of_o archbishop_n metropolitans_n bishop_n archdeacon_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 297_o the_o reason_n of_o t._n c._n answer_v where_o by_o he_o go_v about_o to_o take_v away_o the_o superfluous_a lop_v as_o he_o term_v it_o of_o the_o office_n chap._n 1._o 297_o that_o the_o name_n of_o metropolitan_a archbishop_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o antichristian_a chap._n 2._o 318_o the_o office_n of_o archbishop_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o strange_a or_o unheard_a of_o in_o chri_n stes_fw-la church_n and_o of_o superiority_n among_o the_o clergy_n chap._n 3._o 353_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o answer_v of_o master_n jewel_n concern_v archbishop_n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o unreverend_a reply_n of_o t._n c._n chap._n 4_o 422_o the_o cause_n of_o archbishop_n and_o of_o their_o prerogative_n and_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o old_a bishop_n assign_v by_o t._n c._n examine_v chap._n 5._o 435_o other_o thing_n concern_v the_o office_n and_o authority_n of_o our_o clergy_n of_o inequality_n of_o degree_n among_o minister_n etc._n etc._n disperse_v in_o other_o place_n of_o the_o answer_n chap._n 6._o 453_o a_o brief_a collection_n of_o such_o authority_n as_o be_v use_v in_o this_o defence_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o archbishop_n &_o bishop_n chap_n 7._o 470_o a_o brief_a comparison_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o our_o time_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n chap._n 8._o pag._n 47_o tract_n 9_o of_o the_o communion_n book_n 474._o the_o general_a fault_n examine_v where_o with_o the_o public_a service_n be_v charge_v by_o t._n c._n chap._n 1._o 474_o a_o examination_n of_o the_o particular_a fault_n either_o in_o matter_n or_o form_n wherewith_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n be_v charge_v chap._n 2._o 487_o of_o baptism_n by_o woman_n wherewith_o the_o communion_n book_n be_v false_o charge_v chap._n 3._o 503_o of_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n in_o private_a place_n chap._n 4._o 511_o the_o sacrament_n minister_v by_o other_o than_o minister_n chap._n 5._o 515_o of_o private_a communion_n wherewith_o the_o admonition_n charge_v the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n chap._n 6._o 525._o of_o church_a of_o woman_n 534_o tract_n 10._o of_o holiday_n 538_o of_o holiday_n in_o general_a and_o that_o they_o may_v be_v appoint_v by_o the_o church_n and_o of_o the_o use_n of_o they_o chap._n 1._o 538_o of_o saint_n day_n chap._n 2._o 543_o tract_n 11._o what_o kind_n of_o preachinge_a be_v most_o effectual_a 555_o tract_n 12._o of_o preach_v before_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n 562._o tract_n 13._o of_o read_v of_o the_o scripture_n 568._o a_o comparison_n between_o read_v of_o scripture_n and_o preach_v chap._n 1._o page_n 568_o that_o read_n be_v preach_v chap._n 2._o pag._n 574_o the_o profit_n of_o read_v scripture_n in_o the_o church_n chap._n 3._o 578_o tract_n 14._o of_o minister_a and_o preachinge_a by_o deacon_n 582_o tract_n 15._o of_o matter_n touch_v the_o communion_n 588_o of_o order_n and_o ceremony_n use_v in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o communion_n chap._n 1._o 588_o of_o shut_v man_n from_o the_o communion_n and_o compel_v to_o communicate_v chap._n 2._o 603_o of_o plain_n and_o simple_a minister_a and_o receyve_v of_o the_o communion_n chap._n 3._o 605_o tract_n 16._o of_o matter_n touch_v baptism_n pag._n 607_o of_o interrogatory_n minister_v to_o infant_n chap._n 1._o 607_o of_o godfather_n and_o their_o promise_n chap._n 2_o 612_o of_o fontes_fw-la and_o cross_v in_o baptism_n chap._n 3._o pag._n 614_o of_o the_o party_n that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v chap._n 4_o 619_o tract_n 17._o of_o the_o signiory_n or_o government_n by_o senior_n 626_o whether_o there_o be_v such_o as_o the_o ad_fw-la monition_n call_v senior_n in_o every_o congregation_n chap._n 1._o 626_o whether_o the_o government_n by_o
senior_n ought_v to_o be_v perpetual_a i_o 2_o pag._n 623_o the_o inconvenience_n of_o the_o seignory_n in_o the_o time_n of_o christian_a prince_n especial_o in_o the_o state_n of_o this_o church_n chap._n 3._o 656_o that_o there_o be_v no_o one_o certain_a kind_n of_o government_n in_o the_o church_n which_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v perpetual_o observe_v chap._n 4._o 678_o tract_n 18._o of_o certain_a matter_n concern_v discipline_n in_o the_o church_n 660_o of_o excommunication_n and_o in_o whon_n the_o execution_n thereof_o do_v consist_v chap._n 1._o 660_o of_o bishop_n court_n and_o their_o officer_n chap._n 2._o 679_o tract_n 19_o of_o deacon_n and_o widow_n 686_o of_o the_o office_n of_o deaoncs_n chap._n 1._o 686._o of_o the_o office_n of_o widow_n and_o their_o continuance_n chap_n 2._o 693_o tract_n 20._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n 694_o tract_n 21._o of_o subscribe_v to_o the_o communion_n book_n 709_o certain_a general_a fault_n wherewith_v the_o book_n be_v charge_v by_o the_o admonitor_n chap._n 1._o 〈◊〉_d of_o read_v homily_n &_o a_o 〈◊〉_d chap_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o name_n priest_n give_v to_o the_o mi_fw-mi nister_n of_o the_o gospel_n chap._n 3_o 〈◊〉_d matter_n concern_v the_o solemniration_n of_o marriage_n chap._n 4._o 72_o of_o the_o confirmation_n of_o child_n chap._n 5._o 5_z of_o burial_n and_o matter_n thereunto_o belong_v chap._n 6_o 727_o other_o particular_a fault_n for_o which_o they_o refuse_v too_o subscribe_v too_o the_o book_n chap._n 7_o 7_o 7_o tract_n 22._o of_o cathedral_n church_n 743_o tract_n 23._o of_o civil_a office_n in_o ecclesiastical_a person_n 749_o a_o trial_n of_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o the_o admonition_n against_o such_o civil_a officer_n as_o be_v exercise_v by_o ecclesiastical_a person_n in_o this_o realm_n chap_n 1._o 749_o the_o reason_n which_o t._n c._n use_v against_o civil_a office_n in_o ecclesiastical_a person_n examine_v chap._n 2._o 75_o the_o reason_n use_v in_o the_o answer_n justify_v 763_o of_o addition_n detraction_n &_o alteration_n in_o both_o the_o part_n of_o the_o admonition_n 780_o article_n collect_v out_o of_o the_o for_o mer_fw-fr admonition_n &_o untrue_o say_v of_o the_o fautor_n of_o that_o admonition_n to_o be_v falsifiedpag_n 795_o a_o view_n of_o the_o second_o admonition_n 799_o answer_n to_o certain_a pamphlet_n spread_v abroad_o of_o late_a 806_o a_o examination_n of_o the_o place_n cite_v in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o reply_n touchinge_v matter_n in_o controversy_n in_o the_o end_n the_o end_n of_o the_o principal_a title_n a_o general_n table_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v most_o worthy_a the_o note_n in_o this_o book_n wherein_o this_o mark_n &c_n &c_n signify_v that_o that_o which_o be_v note_v be_v handle_v more_o large_o and_o continue_v in_o more_o page_n together_o than_o be_v quote_v a_o absurdity_n 138._o 195._o 566._o 684._o a_o absurd_a collection_n 383._o deliverance_n from_o adversity_n of_o two_o sort_n 493._o ¶_o aerius_n heresy_n in_o deny_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o priest_n 403._o ¶_o add_v to_o the_o word_n what_o it_o be_v 123._o ¶_o admonition_n contrary_a to_o t._n c._n 38._o admonition_n will_v have_v none_o compel_v to_o communicate_v 605._o contrariety_n in_o the_o admonitor_n 802_o admonitor_n fly_v to_o allegory_n 599._o admonitor_n agree_v not_o in_o their_o government_n 3._o admonitor_n just_o accuse_v of_o contention_n 34._o admonition_n disorderly_o publish_v pag._n 34._o admonitor_n disorderly_o preach_v pag._n 34._o admonitor_n deny_v the_o gospel_n to_o be_v true_o preach_v in_o england_n 38._o both_o the_o admonition_n slander_v this_o church_n 40._o 485._o 801._o admonitor_n compare_v to_o donatist_n 5_o admonitorsjoine_v with_o papist_n in_o the_o face_n this_o church_n of_o england_n pag._n 51._o etc._n etc._n admonitor_n gratify_v the_o papist_n pag._n 55._o 603._o 712_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o admonition_n 76_o ¶_o adversary_n to_z the_o church_n of_o 4._o sort_n 7_o 5._o ¶_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o one_o with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 71._o ¶_o alteration_n in_o this_o time_n dangerous_a 678._o ¶_o alexander_n a_o good_a bishop_n 594._o ¶_o ambition_n 481._o ambitious_a frowardness_n 481._o ambition_n in_o the_o admonitor_n 560._o ¶_o ambrose_n allow_v the_o arch_a bishop_n 335._o ambrose_n a_o metropolitan_a 336._o 471._o ambrose_n his_o house_n of_o salutation_n pag._n 449_o ambrose_n excommunicate_v alone_o 670_o ambrose_n refuse_v to_o come_v at_o the_o em_n perours_n commandment_n and_o why_o 700._o ¶_o amphilochius_n a_o metropolitan_a pag._n 341._o 471_o ¶_o anabaptisme_n a_o crafty_a heresy_n 620._o a_o note_n of_o anabaptisme_n practise_v by_o the_o reply_o 696._o a_o usual_a objection_n of_o anabaptiste_n pag._n 239._o anabaptiste_n pretend_v a_o call_n by_o by_o the_o people_n 191_o 192._o anabaptiste_n inveigh_v more_o bitter_o against_o minister_n than_o against_o papist_n 16._o property_n of_o anabaptiste_n 33._o etc._n etc._n a_o branch_n of_o anabaptisme_n 177._o a_o door_n open_v to_o anabaptisme_n 313_o why_o the_o anabaptist_n always_o pretend_v scripture_n 98._o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o replier_n tend_v to_o plain_a anabaptisme_n 566._o 567._o 622._o 626._o ¶_o anacletus_fw-la 327._o ¶_o anicetus_n 328._o ¶_o andronicê°_n and_o junia_n apostle_n 276_o ¶_o a_o answer_n unaduised_a 347._o ¶_o antichrist_n begin_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n 349._o antichrist_n work_v now_o by_o contention_n 349._o the_o tail_n of_o antichriste_n what_o it_o be_v pag._n 793._o what_o be_v a_o note_n of_o antichrist_n 276._o ¶_o antiquity_n may_v be_v prove_v by_o the_o writing_n of_o infidel_n 324._o ¶_o apparel_n for_o minister_n 256._o etc._n etc._n apparel_n not_o refuse_v because_o the_o papist_n use_v it_o 257._o apparel_n of_o minister_n distinct_a 261_o &c_n &c_n the_o magistrate_n may_v appoint_v apparel_n for_o minister_n 264._o etc._n etc._n distinction_n of_o apparel_n before_o the_o pope_n tyranny_n 268._o etc._n etc._n johns_n apparel_n 270._o apparel_n now_o use_v not_o antichristian_a 271._o etc._n etc._n white_a apparel_n use_v in_o the_o ministration_n 281._o 282._o how_o apparel_n serve_v to_o edification_n 286._o etc._n etc._n the_o form_n of_o apparel_n may_v put_v a_o man_n in_o mind_n of_o his_o duty_n 291._o mourn_v apparel_n 730._o etc._n etc._n ¶_o appeal_v grant_v from_o the_o magistrate_n to_o bishop_n 773._o ¶_o apostolical_a function_n extraordinary_a 217._o what_o part_n of_o the_o apostolical_a function_n do_v remain_v 218._o 229._o 424_o one_o apostle_n do_v appoint_v minister_n pag._n 327._o the_o apostle_n begin_v the_o lord_n supper_n with_o the_o lord_n prayer_n 588._o 602_o ¶_o apollinaris_n 669._o ¶_o apocryphà _fw-la 715._o etc._n etc._n apocrypha_fw-la read_v in_o time_n past_a 721._o apocrypha_fw-la 793._o ¶_o archbishop's_n primate_n metropolitanes_n 297._o etc._n etc._n 470._o &c_n &c_n christ_n call_v archbishop_n 300._o the_o name_n of_o archbishop_n may_v be_v transfer_v to_o other_o than_o christ_n pag._n 300._o archbishop_z no_o new_a ministry_n 303._o 375._o the_o office_n of_o archbishop_n without_o the_o name_n 340._o etc._n etc._n great_a difference_n betwixt_o a_o archebishop_n and_o the_o pope_n 308._o 382._o the_o archbishop_n office_n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n 313._o 427_o the_o archbishop_n office_n in_o the_o apostel_n 372_o archbishop_n and_o metropolitan_a not_o antichristian_a name_n 318._o etc._n etc._n antiquity_n of_o archbishop_n &_o their_o office_n 318._o 354_o archbishop_n in_o england_n anno._n domini_fw-la 180._o 324._o 470_o difference_n betwixt_o archbishop_n and_o bishop_n 325._o the_o archbishop_n office_n in_o s._n john_n pag._n 329._o archbishop_n and_o metropolitanes_n before_o the_o nicene_n council_n 331._o 354._o authority_n of_o the_o metropoltane_n pag._n 333._o the_o name_n and_o office_n of_o archbishop_n and_o metropolitan_a 338._o primate_n allow_v in_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n 343._o the_o authority_n of_o archbishop_n in_o our_o church_n 374._o the_o principal_a office_n of_o archbishop_n pag._n 355._o how_o far_o our_o archbishop_n deal_n in_o controversy_n 362._o the_o reason_n serve_v not_o for_o the_o pope_n that_o serve_v for_o the_o archbyshoppe_n pag._n 380._o 381._o etc._n etc._n metropolitanes_n in_o jeromes_n time_n 386_o the_o office_n of_o metropolitan_a fix_v to_o a_o place_n 393._o the_o use_n of_o a_o patriarch_n rare_a in_o what_o sense_n 419._o the_o office_n of_o patriarch_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n 420._o the_o authorite_n of_o our_o archbishopp_n and_o bishop_n less_o than_o in_o time_n past_a 440_o authority_n of_o archbishop_n and_o bishop_n come_v not_o from_o the_o pope_n 360_o the_o circuit_n of_o the_o archbishop_n of_o alexandria_n 471_o a_o archbishop_n may_v govern_v one_o province_n but_o not_o the_o pope_n the_o whole_a 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as_o soon_o as_o ever_o it_o be_v say_v that_o those_o that_o be_v stranger_n to_o they_o shall_v object_v against_o they_o no_o man_n stand_v forth_o to_o oppose_v against_o they_o forthwith_o he_o be_v make_v a_o minister_n and_o these_o be_v those_o thing_n wherein_o i_o think_v the_o book_n of_o order_v minister_n faulty_a touch_v the_o trial_n and_o examination_n of_o the_o minister_n which_o selfsame_o thing_n be_v likewise_o of_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o deacon_n and_o so_o you_o see_v that_o beside_o the_o fault_n of_o those_o that_o execute_v the_o law_n that_o there_o be_v fault_n in_o the_o law_n themselves_o and_o therefore_o the_o cause_n be_v true_o assign_v although_o you_o see_v it_o not_o io._n whitgifte_n there_o be_v none_o that_o ought_v to_o be_v admit_v by_o any_o bishop_n but_o such_o as_o have_v dwelte_v and_o remain_v in_o his_o diocese_n a_o convenient_a time_n no_o time_n of_o admit_v except_o it_o be_v of_o some_o singular_a person_n who_o hability_n be_v 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necessity_n he_o must_v at_o the_o least_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n before_o they_o can_v give_v any_o judgement_n of_o he_o so_o that_o in_o deed_n though_o you_o have_v use_v many_o word_n yet_o have_v you_o in_o effect_n say_v little_a or_o nothing_o and_o the_o slenderness_n of_o your_o reason_n against_o the_o book_n together_o with_o the_o inconueni_fw-la nce_n that_o must_v of_o necessity_n follow_v have_v procure_v a_o great_a credit_n unto_o it_o and_o it_o still_o remain_v true_a that_o i_o have_v answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n that_o be_v that_o the_o fau_fw-mi it_o be_v that_o be_n be_v in_o the_o person_n not_o in_o the_o law_n chap._n 1._o the._n 9_o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 37._o lin._n 1._o again_o if_o some_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o ministry_n either_o void_a of_o learning_n or_o lewd_a in_o life_n be_v all_o the_o rest_n for_o their_o sake_n to_o be_v condemn_v or_o be_v this_o a_o good_a argument_n some_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o ministry_n without_o trial_n therefore_o none_o be_v lawful_o admit_v into_o the_o ministry_n or_o some_o minister_n be_v unlearned_a and_o evil_a ergo_fw-la there_o be_v none_o good_a i_o think_v you_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o there_o be_v now_o within_o this_o church_n of_o england_n as_o many_o learned_a godly_a grave_a wise_a and_o worthy_a england_n worthy_a minister_n in_o england_n minister_n of_o the_o word_n as_o there_o be_v in_o any_o one_o realm_n or_o particular_a church_n in_o all_o christendom_n or_o ever_o have_v be_v heretofore_o t._n c._n page_n 25._o sect._n 5._o 6._o 7._o and_o what_o mean_v you_o still_o to_o use_v this_o fight_n with_o your_o own_o shadow_n for_o where_o be_v the_o word_n or_o what_o be_v they_o that_o condemn_v all_o the_o minister_n for_o some_o that_o say_v all_o the_o minister_n be_v unlawful_o admit_v for_o some_o or_o that_o there_o be_v none_o good_a because_o some_o be_v bad_a if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o word_n as_o carry_v with_o they_o any_o such_o sense_n than_o you_o do_v wrong_a to_o your_o brethren_n if_o there_o be_v word_n that_o declare_v the_o clean_a contrary_n than_o all_o man_n see_v what_o you_o be_v which_o although_o you_o often_o fault_n in_o yet_o i_o be_o loath_a so_o often_o to_o name_n and_o charge_v you_o with_o it_o when_o it_o be_v say_v that_o learned_a and_o unlearned_a be_v receive_v it_o be_v evident_a that_o they_o condemn_v not_o all_o the_o lord_n bless_v and_o increase_v a_o hundred_o fold_n the_o godly_a wise_a learned_a grave_a minister_n of_o this_o church_n and_o because_o these_o word_n seem_v to_o rock_v we_o asleep_a and_o to_o bring_v we_o into_o forgetfulness_n of_o the_o great_a ruin_n and_o desolation_n of_o the_o church_n i_o must_v tell_v you_o that_o two_o thousand_o able_a and_o sufficient_a minister_n which_o preach_v and_o feed_v diligent_o and_o careful_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n be_v hard_o to_o be_v find_v in_o this_o church_n which_o have_v be_v notwithstanding_o find_v in_o the_o church_n of_o france_n by_o the_o estimation_n of_o those_o which_o know_v the_o estate_n even_o under_o the_o time_n of_o the_o cross_n where_o there_o be_v no_o such_o help_n of_o magistrate_n and_o appoint_v stipend_n as_o god_n be_v praise_v we_o have_v and_o again_o you_o be_v to_o be_v put_v in_o mind_n that_o a_o great_a number_n of_o those_o be_v breed_v in_o king_n edward_n day_n so_o that_o i_o fear_v i_o a_o man_n need_v no_o great_a arithmetic_n to_o count_v the_o number_n of_o such_o able_a minister_n as_o the_o late_a year_n have_v bring_v forth_o and_o yet_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v that_o if_o the_o ministry_n be_v reform_v and_o worthy_a man_n be_v seek_v for_o there_o be_v great_a number_n of_o zealous_a and_o learned_a man_n that_o will_v lay_v their_o hand_n to_o serve_v this_o kind_n of_o building_n by_o the_o ministry_n for_o beside_o number_n that_o the_o university_n will_v yield_v which_o sigh_n for_o the_o repair_n of_o the_o decay_n of_o the_o church_n to_o help_v forward_o so_o great_a a_o work_n the_o inn_n of_o court_n and_o other_o the_o gentry_n of_o the_o realm_n galene_n and_o justinian_n will_v bring_v their_o tenthes_o and_o as_o it_o be_v pay_v their_o shot_n in_o this_o reckon_v io._n whitgifte_n their_o word_n be_v plain_a for_o they_o say_v whereas_o in_o the_o old_a church_n a_o trial_n be_v have_v etc._n etc._n now_o by_o the_o letter_n commendatorie_n of_o some_o one_o man_n etc._n etc._n whereby_o they_o set_v this_o time_n as_o contrary_v unto_o that_o because_o some_o have_v be_v admit_v without_o trial_n and_o therefore_o make_v that_o fault_n general_a which_o be_v particular_a and_o in_o very_a deed_n condemn_v all_o for_o some_o if_o it_o be_v not_o so_o why_o shall_v either_o they_o or_o you_o condemn_v the_o rule_n and_o not_o the_o person_n only_o why_o shall_v they_o say_v that_o we_o have_v no_o right_a ministry_n why_o shall_v the_o second_o 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church_n of_o england_n but_o by_o such_o as_o have_v be_v massemonger_n and_o now_o zealous_a godly_a &_o learned_a preacher_n t._n c._n pag._n 27._o sect._n 2._o 3._o but_o you_o ask_v what_o they_o say_v to_o m._n luther_n bucer_n cranmer_n latimer_n rid_v eye_n i_o pray_v you_o when_o do_v these_o excellent_a personage_n ever_o slide_v from_o the_o gospel_n unto_o idolatry_n which_o of_o they_o do_v ever_o say_v mass_n after_o god_n have_v open_v they_o the_o truth_n what_o have_v so_o distinct_a so_o even_o the_o a_o monition_n which_o i_o confu_o e_o for_o it_o speak_v general_o and_o make_v no_o such_o distinct_a blind_v you_o that_o you_o can_v not_o distinguishe_v &_o put_v a_o difference_n between_o one_o that_o have_v be_v nouss_v from_o his_o youth_n up_o in_o idolatry_n come_v afterwards_o out_o of_o it_o and_o between_o he_o which_o have_v knowledge_n of_o the_o gospel_n afterward_o depart_v from_o it_o and_o of_o such_o be_v the_o place_n of_o ezechiel_n of_o such_o i_o 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person_n doctrine_n frame_v according_a to_o man_n person_n as_o y_z e_z manner_n now_o a_o day_n of_o some_o be_v for_o this_o doctrine_n have_v be_v teach_v general_o that_o no_o idolatrous_a priest_n shall_v remain_v in_o the_o ministry_n &_o these_o example_n of_o luther_n bucer_n etc._n etc._n have_v be_v light_o reject_v as_o repugnant_a to_o the_o conunaundement_n of_o god_n but_o now_o be_v better_o advise_v &_o remember_v that_o some_o in_o that_o case_n be_v great_a promoter_n of_o your_o opinion_n this_o mitigation_n forsooth_o must_v be_v make_v that_o such_o as_o be_v preacher_n in_o king_n edward_n time_n etc._n etc._n they_o i_o mean_v your_o fautor_n be_v professor_n though_o they_o be_v no_o preacher_n they_o be_v also_o in_o queen_n mary_n time_n massemonger_n &_o now_o they_o be_v preacher_n &_o yet_o all_o be_v well_o for_o you_o have_v the_o law_n in_o your_o hand_n to_o coin_v what_o opinion_n you_o listen_v to_o add_v to_o they_o or_o to_o take_v from_o they_o what_o you_o listen_v to_o apply_v &_o not_o apply_v they_o to_o who_o and_o when_o you_o listen_v even_o popelike_a the_o sin_n of_o idolatry_n be_v now_o as_o great_a a_o offence_n as_o it_o be_v then_o but_o the_o external_a &_o civil_a punishment_n for_o the_o same_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n be_v a_o portion_n of_o division_n tract_n 2._o cap._n 6._o the._n 5._o division_n the_o judicial_a law_n the_o necessity_n whereof_o be_v whole_o abrogate_a as_o i_o have_v prove_v before_o those_o precept_n in_o deut._n be_v give_v to_o the_o jew_n both_o for_o the_o judicial_a &_o ceremonial_a law_n also_o they_o be_v give_v to_o we_o for_o the_o law_n of_o faith_n &_o good_a manner_n only_o for_o we_o be_v clear_o deliver_v from_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o law_n &_o the_o judicials_n whereof_o this_o in_o ezechiel_n be_v a_o portion_n be_v not_o enjoin_v to_o christian_n upon_o any_o necessity_n but_o leave_v to_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n 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choose_v a_o protestant_n or_o do_v man_n always_o continue_v in_o love_v of_o those_o who_o they_o have_v choose_v you_o know_v that_o experience_n teach_v the_o contrary_a so_o long_o only_o do_v they_o love_v he_o as_o he_o please_v they_o and_o serve_v their_o affection_n which_o because_o he_o neither_o can_v nor_o aught_o to_o do_v therefore_o their_o affection_n of_o love_n be_v soon_o quench_v and_o they_o begin_v to_o hate_v and_o to_o contemn_v he_o and_o the_o rather_o because_o they_o do_v choose_v he_o for_o in_o that_o respect_n they_o think_v he_o more_o find_v to_o please_v they_o chap._n 5._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 33._o sect._n 3_o and_o if_o it_o shall_v happen_v which_o may_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o any_o church_n shall_v desire_v or_o choose_v or_o consent_v upon_o by_o the_o most_o part_n some_o that_o be_v unmeete_a either_o for_o doctrine_n or_o manner_n than_o the_o minister_n &_o elder_n of_o the_o other_o church_n round_o about_o shall_v 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and_o it_o be_v absurd_a to_o say_v that_o the_o minister_n now_o with_o the_o help_n of_o the_o magistrate_n can_v lay_v sure_a foundation_n of_o the_o church_n or_o build_v more_o cunning_o or_o substantial_o than_o the_o apostle_n can_v which_o be_v the_o master_n bvilder_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o as_o for_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o beauty_n of_o it_o sing_v it_o consist_v in_o jesus_n christ_n which_o be_v the_o head_n that_o be_v always_o join_v unseparable_o in_o all_o time_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o not_o the_o cross_n with_o his_o body_n which_o be_v the_o church_n i_o can_v not_o see_v why_o the_o church_n under_o persecution_n shall_v not_o be_v establish_v have_v both_o the_o foundation_n and_o the_o nethermost_a part_n as_o also_o the_o top_n &_o hygh_a part_n of_o the_o church_n as_o well_o as_o those_o which_o have_v a_o christian_n magistrate_n if_o in_o deed_n the_o magistrate_n who_o god_n have_v sanctify_v to_o be_v a_o ourse_n unto_o his_o church_n be_v also_o the_o head_n of_o the_o same_o than_o the_o church_n can_v not_o be_v establish_v without_o the_o magistrate_n but_o we_o learn_v that_o although_o the_o godly_a judgement_n godly_a the_o magistrate_n be_v head_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n and_o but_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o t._n c._n his_o judgement_n magistrate_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n and_o a_o great_a ornament_n unto_o the_o church_n yet_o he_o be_v but_o a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o the_o church_n may_v be_v establish_v without_o the_o magistrate_n and_o so_o that_o all_o the_o world_n and_o all_o the_o devil_n of_o hell_n can_v not_o shake_v it_o but_o it_o can_v not_o be_v in_o quiet_a in_o peace_n and_o in_o outward_a surety_n without_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n and_o therefore_o the_o church_n in_o that_o respect_n and_o such_o like_a praise_v god_n and_o pray_v for_o the_o magistrate_n by_o the_o which_o it_o enjoy_v so_o 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first_o the_o clergy_n only_o do_v choose_v than_o do_v they_o offer_v he_o who_o they_o have_v choose_v to_o the_o magistrate_n or_o to_o the_o senate_n and_o chief_a ruler_n who_o after_o deliberation_n do_v confirm_v the_o election_n if_o they_o like_v of_o it_o if_o not_o then_o do_v they_o choose_v another_o who_o they_o think_v to_o be_v more_o meet_a in_o the_o end_n the_o matter_n be_v propound_v to_o the_o multitude_n rather_o to_o know_v their_o desire_n and_o require_v their_o testimony_n than_o to_o gyve_v they_o any_o interest_n either_o of_o choose_v or_o refuse_v this_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o caluines_n meaning_n and_o this_o he_o say_v be_v the_o meaning_n of_o that_o council_n which_o i_o say_v be_v in_o ffect_n to_o take_v away_o the_o election_n from_o the_o people_n your_o note_n in_o the_o margin_n must_v be_v correct_v for_o caluine_n have_v no_o such_o thing_n upon_o the._n 16._o of_o the_o act_n but_o the_o like_a he_o have_v upon_o the._n 14._o howbeit_o the_o 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11._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 37._o sect._n 3_o but_o if_o counsel_n be_v of_o so_o great_a authority_n to_o decide_v this_o controversy_n they_o the_o most_o famous_a council_n of_o nice_a will_v strike_v a_o great_a stroke_n with_o you_o which_o in_o a_o epistl_n that_o it_o write_v unto_o the_o church_n of_o egypt_n as_o theodoret_n make_v mention_v speak_v thus_o it_o be_v meet_v that_o people_n that_o this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o clearg_n not_o of_o the_o people_n you_o shall_v have_v power_n both_o to_o choose_v any_o man_n and_o to_o give_v their_o name_n which_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v among_o the_o clergy_n and_o to_o do_v all_o thing_n absolute_o according_a to_o the_o law_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n and_o if_o it_o happen_v any_o to_o dye_v in_o the_o church_n then_o that_o those_o which_o be_v last_o take_v to_o be_v promote_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o he_o that_o be_v
church_n consent_n shall_v be_v have_v in_o the_o election_n of_o apostolical_a t._n c._n urge_v the_o apostolical_a form_n and_o yet_o bring_v in_o that_o which_o be_v not_o apostolical_a the_o minister_n etc._n etc._n but_o how_o shall_v we_o know_v that_o you_o mean_v as_o you_o speak_v for_o you_o have_v no_o warrant_n so_o to_o do_v in_o any_o apostolical_a election_n or_o in_o any_o form_n use_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n wherefore_o either_o you_o must_v break_v that_o rule_n which_o you_o will_v have_v both_o to_o be_v perfect_a and_o perpetual_a for_o all_o time_n and_o state_n or_o else_o do_v you_o but_o dissemble_v with_o the_o magistrate_n and_o mind_n nothing_o less_o than_o that_o you_o say_v you_o will_v do_v but_o as_o good_a never_o a_o whit_n as_o never_o a_o deal_n the_o better_a for_o the_o magistrate_n must_v c._n the_o absurdity_n of_o the_o devise_n of_o t._n c._n confirm_v they_o or_o reject_v they_o if_o he_o be_v godly_a and_o take_v not_o from_o the_o 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matth._n 5._o 6._o &_o 7._o if_o thou_o bring_v thy_o gift_n to_o the_o altar_n etc._n etc._n agree_v with_o thy_o adversary_n quick_o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v usual_a in_o all_o exhortation_n and_o it_o be_v a_o manner_n of_o speak_v that_o give_v every_o man_n occasion_n to_o apply_v that_o unto_o himself_o which_o be_v speak_v neither_o do_v i_o herein_o pinc_fw-la e_o at_o our_o saviour_n christ_n action_n as_o you_o surmise_v for_o he_o speak_v general_o to_o they_o all_o and_o therefore_o use_v that_o form_n of_o word_n which_o be_v most_o convenient_a for_o that_o purpose_n chap._n 1._o the._n 18._o division_n admonition_n the_o eyghte_n they_o use_v no_o other_o word_n but_o such_o as_o christ_n leave_v we_o borrow_v from_o papist_n the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n which_o be_v give_v for_o the._n etc._n etc._n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 101._o sect._n 2._o 3._o from_o whence_o soever_o these_o word_n be_v borrow_v they_o be_v well_o etc._n of_o the_o 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bishop_n telesphorus_n a_o good_a bishop_n supper_n of_o the_o lord_n gloria_fw-la in_o excelsis_fw-la in_o the_o year_n of_o the_o lord_n 130._o be_v a_o good_a bishop_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v as_o yet_o pure_a in_o doctrine_n and_o unspotted_a with_o heresy_n io._n whitgifte_n no_o answer_n to_o one_o whit_n of_o all_o this_o chap._n 1._o the._n 19_o division_n admonition_n the_o ten_o they_o take_v it_o with_o conscience_n we_o with_o custom_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 102._o sect._n 3._o 4._o this_o be_v but_o your_o presumptuous_a and_o arrogant_a judgement_n who_o dare_v take_v upon_o you_o to_o give_v this_o general_a sentence_n so_o general_o upon_o this_o whole_a church_n of_o england_n for_o you_o make_v no_o exception_n but_o set_v we_o ad_fw-la oppositum_fw-la to_o they_o if_o you_o say_v some_o take_v it_o without_o conscience_n i_o think_v you_o say_v true_o and_o so_o do_v some_o of_o they_o as_o judas_n but_o if_o you_o say_v all_o or_o the_o most_o part_n you_o go_v beyond_o your_o commission_n and_o make_v yourselves_o judge_n of_o other_o man_n conscience_n contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o christ._n mat._n 7._o luke_n 6._o and_o of_o paul_n rom._n 2._o and._n 14._o 1._o cor._n 4._o and_o of_o james._n 4._o t._n c._n pag._n 132._o sect._n 3_o when_o as_o many_o receyve_v they_o know_v not_o what_o some_o other_o without_o any_o examination_n either_o of_o then selue_o or_o by_o other_o how_o they_o come_v with_o what_o faith_n in_o christ_n with_o what_o love_n towards_o their_o brethren_n i_o see_v not_o against_o what_o rule_n of_o our_o faviour_n christ_n it_o be_v or_o what_o rash_a judgement_n to_o say_v that_o they_o come_v rather_o of_o custom_n than_o of_o conscience_n when_o neither_o they_o speak_v general_o of_o all_o nor_o singular_o of_o any_o one_o particular_a person_n io._n whitgifte_n general_o to_o charge_v the_o whole_a church_n with_o that_o which_o be_v but_o the_o fault_n of_o some_o and_o 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by_o reason_n of_o their_o sin_n from_o the_o communion_n but_o general_o prohibit_v true_a christian_n to_o have_v any_o familiarity_n or_o friendship_n with_o any_o such_o notorious_a offendor_n if_o you_o be_v not_o with_o malice_n blind_v you_o may_v easy_o understande_v that_o by_o the_o order_n and_o rule_n of_o this_o church_n of_o england_n all_o notorious_a and_o know_v offender_n even_o such_o as_o s._n paul_n here_o papist_n the_o admonito_n gratify_v the_o papist_n speak_v of_o be_v seclude_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o peradventure_o your_o meaning_n be_v that_o no_o man_n shall_v be_v compel_v to_o the_o communion_n at_o any_o time_n wherein_o you_o great_o gratify_v the_o papist_n and_o show_v yourself_o a_o good_a patron_n of_o they_o when_o you_o show_v any_o reason_n why_o man_n may_v not_o be_v compel_v to_o come_v to_o the_o communion_n than_o you_o shall_v be_v answer_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n you_o be_v worthy_a of_o your_o fee._n t._n c._n pag._n 132._o 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of_o your_o profession_n shall_v be_v ignorant_a in_o the_o nature_n and_o definition_n of_o a_o sacrament_n a_o sacrament_n i_o mean_v not_o in_o the_o large_a signification_n but_o as_o it_o be_v proper_o use_v and_o as_o we_o call_v the_o lord_n supper_n and_o baptism_n sacrament_n for_o sacrament_n in_o the_o proper_a signification_n be_v mystical_a sign_n ordain_v by_o god_n himself_o consist_v in_o the_o word_n of_o sacrament_n the_o proper_a signification_n of_o sacrament_n god_n in_o figure_n and_o in_o thing_n signify_v whereby_o he_o keep_v in_o man_n memory_n and_o sometime_o renu_v his_o large_a benefit_n bestow_v upon_o his_o church_n whereby_o also_o he_o seal_v or_o assure_v his_o promise_n and_o show_v outward_o and_o as_o it_o be_v lay_v before_o our_o eye_n those_o thing_n to_o behold_v which_o inward_o he_o work_v in_o we_o yea_o by_o they_o he_o strengthen_v and_o increase_v our_o faith_n by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n work_v in_o our_o heart_n and_o to_o be_v short_a 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hyghewaye_n and_o yet_o allow_v of_o it_o in_o the_o church_n io._n whitgifte_n as_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o paint_n of_o a_o image_n to_o set_v forth_o a_o history_n and_o place_v of_o it_o in_o the_o church_n to_o be_v worship_v so_o be_v there_o also_o as_o great_a difference_n or_o more_o betwixt_o cross_v a_o child_n in_o the_o forehead_n at_o the_o time_n of_o baptism_n with_o express_v the_o cause_n and_o use_v of_o it_o and_o the_o place_n of_o cross_n in_o church_n or_o highway_n and_o street_n the_o cross_v of_o the_o child_n forehead_n be_v but_o for_o a_o moment_n the_o cross_n of_o wood_n and_o stone_n remain_v and_o continue_v the_o cross_n in_o the_o child_n forehead_n be_v not_o make_v to_o be_v adore_v and_o worship_v neither_o be_v ever_o any_o man_n so_o mad_a as_o to_o imagine_v any_o such_o thing_n of_o it_o but_o the_o cross_n in_o church_n street_n and_o highway_n of_o mettle_n and_o wood_n be_v erect_v to_o be_v worship_v and_o be_v so_o according_o and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o like_a peril_n in_o the_o one_o as_o there_o be_v in_o the_o other_o ¶_o of_o the_o party_n that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v chap._n 4._o the_o first_o division_n admonition_n ▪_o that_o the_o party_n to_o be_v baptize_v if_o they_o be_v of_o the_o year_n of_o 6._o of_o math._n 6._o discretion_n by_o themselves_o and_o in_o their_o own_o person_n or_o if_o they_o be_v infant_n by_o their_o parent_n in_o who_o rooine_n if_o upon_o necessary_a occasion_n they_o be_v absent_a some_o one_o of_o the_o congregation_n know_v the_o good_a behaviour_n and_o sound_n faith_n of_o the_o par_fw-fr tes_z may_z both_o make_v rehearsal_n if_o their_o faith_n and_o also_o if_o their_o faith_n be_v sound_o &_o agreeable_a to_o holy_a scripture_n desire_v to_o be_v in_o the_o same_o baptise_a and_o final_o that_o nothing_o be_v do_v in_o this_o or_o any_o other_o thing_n but_o that_o which_o you_o have_v the_o express_a warrant_n of_o god_n word_n for_o 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licentious_a speech_n though_o void_a of_o all_o reason_n and_o ground_n may_v peradventure_o sink_v deep_o into_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o subject_n especial_o of_o the_o papist_n who_o have_v already_o conceyve_v the_o same_o opinion_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n than_o will_v be_v root_v out_o in_o short_a time_n so_o careful_a be_v these_o man_n in_o procure_v to_o the_o prince_n due_a obedience_n and_o so_o faithful_a be_v they_o in_o maynteyn_v her_o authority_n according_a to_o their_o oath_n and_o duty_n chap._n 2._o the._n 22._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 114._o sect._n 2._o &_o pag._n 132._o sect._n 3_o both_o the_o name_n &_o office_n of_o senior_n be_v extinguish_v before_o ambrose_n time_n as_o he_o himself_o do_v testify_v write_v upon_o the_o five_o of_o the_o first_o to_o timothy_n in_o deed_n as_o ambrose_n say_v write_v upon_o the_o fyfth_o of_o the_o first_o to_o timothy_n the_o synagogue_n and_o after_o the_o church_n have_v senior_n without_o who_o counsel_n nothing_o be_v do_v in_o the_o church_n but_o that_o be_v before_o his_o time_n and_o before_o there_o be_v any_o christian_n magistrate_n or_o any_o church_n establish_v t._n c._n pag._n 145._o sect._n 2._o last_o of_o all_o 〈◊〉_d all_o untrue_a for_o it_o be_v not_o allege_v for_o that_o 〈◊〉_d to_o prove_v that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v no_o senior_n in_o the_o church_n under_o a_o christian_n prince_n he_o cit_v ambrose_n authority_n both_o in_o the._n 114._o and._n 132._o page_n which_o say_v that_o the_o synagogue_n or_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o after_o that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o christian_n have_v senior_n without_o who_o counsel_n nothing_o be_v do_v in_o the_o church_n whereupon_o he_o conclude_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o they_o be_v not_o in_o ambrose_n time_n therefore_o they_o be_v not_o under_o a_o christian_n prince_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o be_v most_o untrue_a i_o allege_v not_o ambrose_n in_o either_o of_o those_o place_n to_o prove_v that_o senior_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v under_o a_o christian_n prince_n as_o the_o reader_n may_v understande_v evident_o by_o my_o word_n only_o i_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v senior_n and_o i_o allege_v ambrose_n partly_o for_o that_o purpose_n partly_o to_o show_v that_o both_o their_o name_n and_o office_n be_v extinguish_v before_o his_o time_n no_o man_n live_a can_v gather_v any_o other_o sense_n out_o of_o my_o word_n wherefore_o that_o conclusion_n upon_o ambrose_n word_n be_v you_o it_o be_v not_o i_o and_o i_o be_o sorry_a that_o malice_n have_v throw_v you_o so_o deep_a into_o y_o e_o pit_n of_o untruth_n that_o you_o can_v not_o be_v get_v out_o of_o it_o no_o cloak_n or_o shadow_n can_v cover_v this_o deformity_n of_o you_o chap._n 2._o the._n 23._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 145._o sect._n 2._o and_o here_o m._n doctor_n have_v in_o one_o sentence_n proclaim_v both_o his_o great_a ignorance_n in_o the_o whole_a story_n of_o the_o church_n and_o withal_o 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book_n with_o other_o man_n collection_n you_o will_v never_o so_o often_o charge_v i_o with_o y_z e_z same_z i_o do_v not_o say_v as_o i_o tell_v you_o before_o that_o because_o there_o be_v no_o senior_n in_o ambrose_n time_n therefore_o there_o be_v none_o under_o a_o christian_n prince_n but_o this_o i_o say_v that_z y_z e_z senior_n which_o ambrose_n speak_v of_o be_v extinguish_v before_o ambrose_n time_n and_o be_v not_o in_o the_o time_n of_o christian_n prince_n to_o what_o purpose_n do_v you_o account_v y_fw-mi â—_o time_n betwixt_o philip_n &_o ambrose_n or_o constantine_n and_o ambrose_n you_o shall_v rather_o prove_v that_o this_o kind_n of_o government_n by_o senior_n be_v in_o philip_n dominion_n if_o he_o be_v christen_v which_o may_v be_v doubt_v or_o under_o constantinus_n you_o say_v if_o i_o have_v ever_o read_v the_o ecclesiastical_a story_n i_o may_v have_v find_v easy_o the_o eldership_n most_o flourish_v in_o constantinus_n time_n and_o other_o time_n when_o 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be_v not_o necessary_a and_o not_o whether_o it_o have_v be_v which_o notwithstanding_o can_v not_o be_v prove_v or_o may_v be_v chap._n 2._o the._n 24._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 145._o sect._n 3_o and_o that_o the_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n endure_v in_o the_o church_n after_o ambrose_n time_n and_o in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n and_o as_o it_o be_v very_o like_a in_o ambrose_n time_n although_o not_o where_o he_o be_v it_o may_v be_v show_v isaian_n 4._o tom._n 2._o lib._n in_o isaian_n plain_o by_o hierome_n which_o follow_v ambrose_n immediate_o who_o in_o his_o three_o chapter_n upon_o i_o say_v 4_o it_o be_v in_o the._n 5._o tom_n not_o in_o the._n 4_o say_v that_o they_o have_v also_o the_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n in_o the_o church_n io._n whitgifte_n jerome_n speak_v not_o one_o word_n of_o your_o presbytery_n his_o word_n be_v these_o et_fw-la nos_fw-la habemus_fw-la isaiam_n hier._n 2._o lib._n in_o isaiam_n in_o ecclesia_fw-la senatum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la coetum_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la and_o we_o have_v in_o the_o church_n our_o senate_n a_o company_n of_o elder_n which_o he_o mean_v of_o priest_n and_o of_o college_n of_o cathedral_n church_n that_o be_v then_o in_o every_o city_n and_o not_o of_o a_o signiory_n in_o every_o congregation_n whereby_o mean_v what_o presbytery_n jeron_n mean_v every_o several_a parish_n be_v govern_v that_o this_o be_v jeromes_n meaning_n it_o appear_v in_o the_o same_o place_n upon_o these_o word_n hariolum_fw-la &_o senem_fw-la where_o he_o interprete_v the_o word_n presbyter_n say_v they_o be_v such_o as_o s._n paul_n describe_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o tim._n and_o those_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n so_o may_v we_o say_v that_o we_o have_v senatum_fw-la &_o coetum_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n whether_o you_o will_v mean_v it_o of_o synod_n and_o convocation_n or_o of_o cathedral_n &_o collegiate_n church_n which_o consist_v ex_fw-la 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e_o pastor_n we_o read_v not_o of_o any_o such_o jurisdiction_n that_o this_o senate_n have_v over_o any_o but_o over_o the_o clergy_n you_o must_v have_v authority_n both_o over_o clergy_n and_o laiety_n wherefore_o this_o place_n of_o jerome_n do_v not_o help_v you_o one_o whit_n but_o be_v it_o that_o this_o signiory_n be_v y_o e_o same_o that_o you_o mean_v of_o and_o that_o it_o be_v in_o jeromes_n church_n yet_o for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v not_o in_o ambrose_n his_o church_n also_o it_o manifest_o appear_v to_o be_v a_o thing_n indifferent_a and_o not_o of_o necessity_n to_o be_v urge_v chap._n 2._o the._n 25._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 145._o sect._n ult._n the_o same_o may_v be_v show_v by_o diverse_a other_o testimony_n which_o i_o omit_v because_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v by_o the_o former_a treatise_n touch_v the_o election_n of_o the_o minister_n that_o this_o order_n of_o eldership_n continue_v in_o the_o church_n diverse_a hundred_o year_n after_o ambrose_n 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church_n be_v a_o ordinary_a function_n in_o a_o church_n lawful_o constitute_v which_o office_n in_o the._n 30._o he_o call_v the_o deaconship_n io._n whitgifte_n in_o neither_o of_o these_o do_v m._n beza_n so_o tie_v provide_v for_o the_o poor_a to_o deacon_n that_o they_o must_v by_o they_o be_v provide_v for_o and_o by_o no_o other_o he_o only_o show_v what_o be_v do_v in_o this_o case_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o in_o the_o time_n immediate_o follow_v but_o there_o be_v neither_o scripture_n nor_o any_o learned_a writer_n that_o teach_v that_o the_o poor_a may_v be_v by_o no_o other_o provide_v for_o than_o by_o deacon_n you_o prove_v that_o which_o no_o man_n deni_v and_o speak_v not_o one_o word_n of_o the_o matter_n in_o question_n that_o be_v whether_o of_o necessity_n the_o poor_a must_v be_v provide_v for_o by_o deacon_n and_o not_o otherwise_o t._n c._n peter_n martyr_n upon_o the._n 11._o to_o the_o roman_n speak_v of_o the_o elder_n which_o do_v assist_v the_o 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now_o retain_v in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n as_o we_o use_v they_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v allege_v out_o of_o he_o tract_n 7._o cap._n 5._o the._n 5._o division_n and_o chap._n 7._o division_n 4._o t._n c._n peter_n martyr_n upon_o the._n 10._o chap._n of_o the_o second_o book_n of_o the_o king_n say_v that_o the_o lutheran_n must_v take_v heed_n lest_o while_o they_o cut_v off_o many_o popish_a error_n they_o follow_v jehu_n by_o retain_v also_o many_o popish_a thing_n for_o they_o defend_v still_o the_o real_a presence_n in_o the_o bread_n of_o the_o supper_n and_o image_n and_o vestment_n etc._n etc._n and_o say_v that_o religion_n must_v be_v whole_o reform_v to_o the_o quick_a io._n whitgifte_n m._n martyr_n name_v the_o popish_a thing_n which_o the_o lutheran_n observe_v to_o be_v the_o real_a presence_n image_n all_o the_o popish_a apparel_n which_o they_o use_v in_o their_o mass_n for_o so_o do_v he_o mean_v which_o this_o church_n 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