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A65954 An answer to Dr. Sherlock's Vindication of The case of allegiance due to sovereign powers which he made in reply to an answer to a late pamphlet, intituled, Obedience and submission to the present government, demonstrated from Bishop Overal's convocation-book : with a postscript, in answer to Dr. Sherlock's Case of allegiance, &c. / by the same author. Wagstaffe, Thomas, 1645-1712. 1692 (1692) Wing W205; ESTC R39742 234,691 160

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possession_n than_o give_v occasion_n to_o dangerous_a and_o bloody_a trouble_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o likewise_o speak_v of_o contract_n personal_a and_o real_a the_o latter_a of_o which_o he_o say_v be_v league_n and_o contract_n make_v with_o prince_n which_o bound_v their_o successor_n and_o people_n as_o well_o as_o themselves_o and_o then_o add_v a_o league_n make_v with_o a_o king_n remain_v in_o force_n although_o he_o or_o his_o successor_n be_v drive_v from_o his_o kingdom_n by_o his_o subject_n and_o his_o reason_n be_v for_o the_o right_n of_o the_o government_n be_v with_o he_o though_o he_o have_v lose_v the_o possession_n 16._o sane_n cum_fw-la rege_fw-la initum_fw-la f●edus_fw-la manet_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la rex_fw-la idem_fw-la aut_fw-la successor_n regno_fw-la s●●●itis_fw-la sit_fw-la pulsus_fw-la jus_fw-la en●m_fw-la regni_fw-la pour_v ipsi●m_fw-la manet_fw-la ut●●●que_fw-la posse_fw-la s●m●m_fw-la amiserit_fw-la contra_fw-la si_fw-la alieni_fw-la regni_fw-la invas●r_fw-la volente_fw-la vero_fw-la rege_fw-la aut_fw-la oppr_fw-la ss●r_fw-la etc._n etc._n be●lo_fw-la impe●atur_fw-la nihil_fw-la en_fw-fr siet_fw-la contra_fw-la foedus_fw-la etc._n etc._n ibid._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 16._o and_o on_o the_o contrary_a if_o a_o usurper_n or_o a_o oppressor_n of_o a_o free_a people_n before_o he_o have_v a_o sufficient_a consent_n of_o they_o be_v invade_v by_o war_n the_o true_a k._n consent_v this_o be_v no_o breach_n of_o the_o league_n because_o they_o have_v only_a possession_n but_o they_o have_v no_o right_n and_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o that_o which_o f._n quintius_n say_v to_o nabis_n livy_n lib._n 34._o we_o make_v no_o friendship_n and_o society_n with_o you_o but_o with_o pelops_n the_o just_a and_o lawful_a king_n of_o the_o lacedaemonian_n and_o here_o by_o the_o way_n we_o have_v not_o only_o the_o sense_n of_o grotius_n but_o a_o very_a good_a argument_n likewise_o for_o if_o in_o real_a contract_n make_v with_o a_o king_n 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