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A36764 A treatise, written by an author of the communion of the Church of Rome, touching transubstantiation wherein is made appear, that according to the principles of that church, this doctrine cannot be an article of faith.; Traitté d'un autheur de la communion romaine touchant la transsubstantiation. English Dufour de Longuerue, Louis, 1652-1733.; Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1688 (1688) Wing D2456; ESTC R229806 68,872 84

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