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A19952 The reply of the most illustrious Cardinall of Perron, to the ansvveare of the most excellent King of Great Britaine the first tome. Translated into English.; Réplique à la response du sérénissime roy de la Grand Bretagne. Vol. 1. English Du Perron, Jacques Davy, 1556-1618.; Cary, Elizabeth, Lady, 1585 or 6-1639.; Du Perron, Jacques Davy, 1556-1618. Lettre de Mgr le Cal Du Perron, envoyée au sieur Casaubon en Angleterre. English.; Casaubon, Isaac, 1559-1614. Ad epistolam illustr. et reverendiss. Cardinalis Peronii, responsio. English. Selections. 1630 (1630) STC 6385; ESTC S107359 685,466 494

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church_n that_o have_v not_o be_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o four_o first_o counsel_n of_o the_o invention_n of_o order_n in_o the_o justification_n of_o the_o reformation_n before_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o deformation_n chap._n xxvi_o the_o continuance_n of_o the_o king_n answer_n now_o they_o have_v judge_v among_o the_o best_a that_o which_o have_v bane_n give_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o breed_a church_n and_o which_o have_v be_v in_o practice_n in_o the_o age_n near_o they_o the_o reply_n neither_o be_v it_o the_o question_n of_o what_o they_o have_v judge_v but_o of_o the_o change_n that_o be_v happen_v between_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_n and_o the_o morderne_a and_o of_o the_o importance_n of_o this_o change_n that_o be_v to_o say_v whether_o there_o be_v happen_v any_o change_n between_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n &_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o last_o age_n of_o such_o importance_n as_o for_o 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be_v for_o who_o innocence_n not_o with_o stand_v diverse_a write_v be_v always_o ground_v upon_o the_o fact_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o right_n that_o be_v to_o say_v pretend_v they_o be_v not_o complice_n nor_o consent_v thereto_o and_o not_o maintain_v the_o action_n to_o be_v other_o then_o damnable_a and_o detestable_a contrariwise_o that_o they_o be_v justify_v by_o this_o way_n be_v it_o true_a be_v it_o false_a for_o it_o be_v hard_o in_o such_o a_o case_n to_o impose_v a_o law_n upon_o the_o suspicion_n of_o absent_a person_n it_o be_v a_o manifest_a testimony_n that_o the_o action_n be_v abhor_v and_o condemn_v and_o when_o as_o his_o majesty_n add_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n enroll_v they_o in_o the_o catalogue_n of_o martyr_n if_o any_o pariicular_a man_n defend_v their_o suppose_a innocence_n hyperbolical_o it_o be_v always_o upon_o this_o supposition_n whether_o true_a or_o false_a that_o they_o be_v not_o complice_n in_o the_o fact_n but_o as_o for_o the_o roman_a 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mark_n of_o public_a acknowledgement_n testify_v their_o particular_a devotion_n towards_o saint_n peter_n sea_n that_o can_v bring_v no_o more_o dimunition_n to_o their_o temporal_a glory_n than_o the_o submission_n of_o alexander_n the_o great_a bring_v to_o he_o when_o he_o prostrate_v himself_o before_o the_o high_a priest_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d law_n or_o that_o of_o the_o emperor_n justinian_n the_o second_o when_o he_o prostrate_v himself_o in_o asia_n before_o pope_n constantine_n make_v this_o acknowledgement_n not_o to_o man_n but_o to_o god_n who_o say_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o isaiah_n to_o his_o church_n whereof_o saint_n peter_n in_o his_o successor_n be_v the_o head_n and_o visible_a figure_n king_n shall_v worship_v thou_o with_o their_o face_n on_o the_o ground_n contrariwise_o it_o will_v be_v find_v that_o the_o king_n of_o england_n have_v be_v more_o esteem_v and_o fear_v since_o then_o then_o ever_o they_o be_v before_o joint_o that_o whensoever_o it_o shall_v please_v this_o great_a king_n to_o make_v so_o fair_a a_o present_a to_o the_o church_n as_o to_o give_v she_o his_o heart_n and_o person_n i_o assure_v myself_o the_o pope_n will_v show_v if_o these_o temporal_a acknowledgement_n be_v displease_v to_o his_o majesty_n that_o it_o be_v himself_o as_o s._n paul_n say_v that_o he_o desire_v and_o not_o the_o thing_n that_o belong_v to_o he_o the_o end_n of_o the_o first_o part._n contra_fw-la literas_fw-la petil_fw-la l_o 2._o c_o 95_o epist._n 1_o 52_o de_fw-fr side_n ad_fw-la petr._n c._n 39_o epist._n 48._o cap._n 29._o cap._n 33._o cap_n 4._o cap._n 23._o 23._o gen._n 12._o 26._o 26._o gal_n 3_o l_o sa_o 2._o 2._o matt_n 14._o de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccles._n ca._n 2._o &_o 3._o &_o alibi_fw-la isa._n 60._o 62._o 54._o 54._o matth._n 16._o 18._o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d c_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr symb._n &_o catec_n l._n 1_o c._n 5._o contr._n jul._n l._n 5._o &_o 2._o vincent_n lirin_fw-mi c._n 42_o epist._n 118._o de_fw-fr bapt._n cont_n don._n l._n 4._o c._n 6._o 〈◊〉_d c._n 24._o in_o joan._n lib._n 11._o cap._n 27._o 27._o hier._n adu_fw-la luciser_n luciser_n ruffin_n in_o symbol_n symbol_n august_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o symbol_n &_o de_fw-fr symb._n ad_fw-la catec_fw-la d_o demost_a demost_a arist._n polit_fw-la 2._o deuteron_fw-gr 23._o psal._n 25._o act._n 17._o hieron_n in_o esai_n c._n 62._o cyril_n ibid._n matth._n 18._o act._n 12._o 1._o cor._n 4_o 1._o cor._n 10._o jacob_n 5._o iren._n cont_n valen._n lib._n 4._o c._n 34._o euseb._n histor_n eod_a l._n 4._o cap._n 13._o 13._o tertull._n contra_fw-la martion_n lib._n 4._o c._n 4._o clem._n alex_n stron_n lib._n 27._o tertull._n cont_n marc._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 4._o 4._o epiph._n haer_fw-mi 65._o 65._o euseb._n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la constant_n l._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sympr_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 1_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cateche_n 15._o 〈◊〉_d aug._n the_o 〈◊〉_d &_o symb_n c._n 10._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d symb_n c._n 10_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 4._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 2._o c._n 〈◊〉_d vm._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 9_o prosp._n the_o 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d dei_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ang._n collatine_n carth._n l_o 3_o august_n ibid._n aug._n ib_fw-la id_fw-la id_fw-la aug._n epist_n 48._o g._n aug_n ibid._n ibid._n optat._n milevit_fw-la cont_n parm_n 〈◊〉_d 1._o b._n aug._n b_o revin_n col_fw-fr l._n 3._o c._n in_o joan._n ttact_n 6._o 6._o aug._n psal._n 57_o e._n aug._n the_o pastor_n c._n 13_o esai_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 60._o 〈◊〉_d 61._o matth._n 5._o matth._n 18._o 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chris_n in_o esai_n hom_n 4._o idem_fw-la in_o esai_n c._n 2._o aug._n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccles_n c._n 14._o aug._n cont_n parm._n l._n 2._o cap_n 3._o cont._n lit_fw-fr petil_a lib._n 1._o cap._n 104._o cypr._n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccles._n ibid._n ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la ibid._n &_o hier._n cont_n lucifèr_n hler._n cont_n lucif_n 1._o 〈◊〉_d carth._n 4._o c._n 1._o aug._n ep_n 152._o idem_fw-la ep_n 50_o ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la cant._n 4._o esai_n 1._o esai_n 52._o ose._n 2._o matth._n 16._o tim_n 3_o 2._o corinth_n 6._o 2._o joan._n hier._n cont_n lucifer_n 〈◊〉_d l._n 1._o idem_fw-la l._n 2._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d c._n 7._o de_fw-fr vera_fw-la relig_n cap._n 6._o de_fw-fr side_n &_o symb_n c._n 10._o 10._o council_n carth_n 4._o 〈◊〉_d 1._o 1._o aug._n ep_n 15_o 2._o 2._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 4_o 4_o cyp_n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aug_n de_fw-fr gest_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d prosp_n promis_fw-fr &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d c._n 19_o 〈◊〉_d 4._o 〈◊〉_d 5_o 5_o 〈◊〉_d 54._o 54._o 〈◊〉_d 92_o 92_o 〈◊〉_d 37_o 37_o 〈◊〉_d 8._o 8._o 〈◊〉_d 16._o 16._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d alex._n ep_n ad_fw-la alex._n theodoret_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d e_o eulex_n eulex_n 1._o cap._n 4._o l._n athan._n orat_fw-la orat_fw-la theof_n ad_fw-la epiph_n apud_fw-la hierom._n ep._n 67._o ang._n psal._n 101._o ang._n the_o ago_o christ_n c._n 29._o 1._o de_fw-fr bap_n cont_n dol_n 3._o c._n 2._o cont._n parm._n l._n 3._o capt_n 3._o de_fw-fr symbol_n ad_fw-la catech_v l._n 〈◊〉_d c._n 5._o anguso_n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eul._n c._n 6._o aug._n the_o symb_n ad_fw-la cathech_n l._n 4._o c._n 10._o fulg._n the_o sid_n ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d c._n 39_o a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aug_n 〈◊〉_d 50._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d psal._n 122._o 〈◊〉_d epist_n ad_fw-la pupp_n aug_n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cap._n 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 3_o c._n 101._o de_fw-fr pastor_n c._n 13._o 13._o cont._n parm._n l._n 2_o cap_n 11_o 11_o cont._n parm._n l_o 3._o cap._n 4._o 4._o de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccl_n c._n 10_o c_o de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccl_n c._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n c_o 20_o 20_o