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B04528 The lavvfulnes of hearing the publick ministers of the Church of England proved, by Mr. Philip Nye and Mr. John Robinson, two eminent Congregational divines. Together with the judgment of Dr. Goodwin, Dr. Owen, and other independents, as well ancient as modern, concerning forms of prayer, parish-churches, and communion with them: and the judgment of other nonconformists about kneeling at the sacrament. Nye, Philip, 1596?-1672.; Robinson, John, 1575?-1625. 1683 (1683) Wing N1496; ESTC R203023 37,350 46

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their_o sacrament_n and_o the_o eat_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o heathen_n which_o be_v their_o sacrament_n and_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christian_n with_o these_o thing_n join_v in_o the_o last_o place_n that_o sacrifice_n consider_v as_o proper_a institution_n may_v not_o be_v offer_v or_o eat_v but_o in_o the_o place_n choose_v deut._n 12.5_o 6_o 7._o and_o sanctify_v by_o the_o lord_n for_o that_o purpose_n no_o more_o may_v sacrament_n now_o be_v eat_v but_o in_o the_o church_n whereas_o the_o word_n may_v be_v preach_v to_o any_o as_o well_o out_o of_o the_o church_n as_o in_o it_o object_n 15._o the_o place_n call_v temple_n and_o church_n have_v be_v build_v for_o idolatry_n shall_v be_v demolish_v and_o therefore_o be_v not_o to_o be_v frequent_v special_o be_v account_v and_o make_v holy_a place_n deut._n 12.3_o answ_n 1._o the_o difference_n of_o place_n under_o the_o law_n when_o all_o other_o place_n for_o the_o most_o solemn_a 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