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A58653 Jerubbaal justified: or, A plain rebuke of the high (pretended humble) remonstrance and plea against Mr. Crofton his reformation not separation or, a plea for communion with the church under those corruptions, and by that disorderly ministration, to which he cannot conform, nor by it administer. Demonstrating, T.P. (alias D.) his grosse mistakes of Mr. Crofton his principle and argument: as also the fallacie and vanity of his pleaded necessity for his (confessed) separation from publique assemblies, which is found insufficient to acquit him of schisme. To which is added a position, disputing the lawfulnesse of ministers receiving an imposed liturgy. R. S.; Crofton, Zachary, 1625 or 6-1672. Reformation not separation. 1663 (1663) Wing S130 35,735 54

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exercise_n be_v supersede_v and_o he_o resolve_v into_o the_o state_n and_o capacity_n of_o a_o private_a member_n of_o the_o church_n consider_v 1._o this_o ministerial_a mode_n be_v evil_a but_o not_o such_o a_o evil_a as_o vitiate_v the_o subject_n god_n worship_n do_v true_o formal_o salvable_o though_o not_o comfortable_o or_o so_o prositable_o as_o by_o another_o exist_v in_o and_o to_o the_o church_n by_o it_o and_o i_o can_v have_v god_n ordinance_n in_o communion_n with_o god_n church_n without_o it_o 2._o in_o this_o ministerial_a mode_n the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v pure_o passive_a they_o according_a to_o their_o duty_n assemble_v to_o worship_n god_n the_o minister_n charge_v with_o the_o bumane_a mode_n do_v assume_v a_o minister_n by_o this_o the_o which_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n do_v not_o advise_v or_o choose_v nor_o any_o way_n act_n in_o but_o composed_o attend_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n hereby_o minister_v unto_o they_o and_o exhibit_v for_o 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