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A43054 A discourse about edification in answer to a question, whether it is lawful for any man to forsake the communion of the Church of England, and go to the separate meetings, because he can better edifie there? Hascard, Gregory. 1683 (1683) Wing H1108; ESTC R4350 16,121 30

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