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A93800 Severall informations and examinations taken concerning Lieutenant Colonell Iohn Lilburn, shewing his apostacy to the party of Charles Stuart: and what his intentions are in coming over into England out of Flanders. Berkenhead, Isaac. 1653 (1653) Wing S5255; Thomason E705_14; ESTC R35307 11,606 16

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SEVERALL INFORMATIONS AND EXAMINATIONS Taken concerning Lieutenant Colonell Iohn Lilburn CONCERNING HIS APOSTACY to the Party of Charles Stuart And his Intentions in coming over into ENGLAND out of FLANDERS LONDON Printed by H. Hills and for G. Calvert and T. Brewster and are to be sold at the Black-spread Eagle and the three Bibles at and near the West-end of Pauls 1653. A Perfect Narrative of what passages I observed from Lieut. Col. Joh. Lilburn and others touching him in Flanders About the beginning of Iuly 1652. I was imployed on the behalf of this Common-wealth into Holland and Flanders and landing at Ostend I found a number of very desperate enemies of all sorts to this Commonwealth with whom I observed Lieut. C. Lilburn much to associate and having observed before his restlesness of spirit and that his late actions had rend●ed him so obnoxious to this Common-wealth that incurred an Act of Banishment upon himself I therefore applyed my self to find out what his endeavours at present drove at And to this purpose it was not long before I found that Lieut. Col. Lilburn had been very conversant with Cap. Ioh. Bartlet and to whom he had imparted severall secrets as he himself called them the said Cap. Iohn Bartlet who told me that there were many delinquents and Cavaliers of dangerous consequence that escaped out of England to that Town of Ostend whom L. C. Lilburn no sooner heard of but came to them and in as gross a manner as he could did endeavour to lessen the Justice Honor and power of this Commonwealth and this in so vile and scurilous language as produc'd rather a wonder than an affection in its chiefest adversaries as was several times confessed to me by several of them with whom he convers'd Cap. Bartlet as well as several others further told me that L. C. Iohn Lilburn kept great correspondencies with several people in England and that one Sanctly Mr. Prinns man he conceived did send away his letters for which purpose the Lie Col. every Saturday came from Bruges to Ostend and having wrote them on the Monday following he returned as I my self often observed him to do Not long after I heard Col. Charls Lloid sometimes called Sir Charls Lloid Engineer General and Quartermaster General to the late King Cap. Luke Whitington Agent to Charls Stuart Cap. Iohn Tytus Cap. Ioh. Bartlet say that L. C. Iohn Lilburn had proposed several times sometimes to the Duke of Buckingham sometimes to Sir Ralph Hopton sometimes call'd the Lord Hopton and sometimes to Col. Charls Lloid aforesaid and several others That if any of the forenamed persons would procure him 10000 l. he would destroy the Lord General Cromwel the Parliament and the Council of State that now sitteth at Westminster and settle Charls Stuart King of England as he called him in his Throne in England or he would have a piece of him nayl'd upon every post in Bruges In answer to which Sir Charls Lloid as aforesaid told me that if he thought the L. Col. could perform what he proposed to them it would be hard but they would procure so much money upon so good a score I observed further from L. C. Iohn Lilburn and others who told me of his actions that the L. Col. did not only move with much violence and earnestness shewing which way he would bring this his proposed design about but went from person to person whose reputation he thought could procure so much as he proposed for for the advancement of this his declared design and whose affections and opinions were most suitable to further him in such imployments Not long after this L. C. Lilburn took up a presumtion that I was imployed by the Commonwealth of England which he averred he was certified of by several of his friends and named one Col. Layton as one of his friends who now stands exil'd from this Commonwealth and was Secretary to the Council of Warr to Charls Stuart in Scotland The L. C. hereupon went to the Duke of Buckingham Sir Ralph Hopton as aforesaid Col. Charls Lloid as aforesaid Major General Diol a Scotchman that came and invaded England with Charls Stuart and had lately broke out of the Tower Dr. Nicholas Judge of the Admiralty court in Dunkirk for Charls Stuart Cap. Luke Whitington Agent for Charls Stuart Cap. Iohn Tytus brother to Cap. Tytus the professed Enemie of this Commonwealth Cap. Iohn Bartlet and what other Cavaliers he could meet with and told them that I was a Spy for the Parliament of England and warned them to beware of me For he had already spoiled two of the Parliament Spyes and would in a short time ruin me also And to this purpose as Cap. Tytus and several others afterwards told me the Li. Col. went to Placingdol and the said Col. Layton where they way-laid me an hour and a half to have ruined me as L.C. Lil. often said he would though it pleased God in his Mercy not to let me come that day from Ostend when I knew nothing of the design against me Not long after this I conversed with some of the L.C. his Associats and told them I wondred much why L.C. Lilburn should offer thus to abuse his own Country-man in another Nation in so high a Nature as he had done me since I never did him hurt and repeating what I had heard from others that L.C. Lilburn should say of me It was soon told the L.Col. again who presently presumed that it was Cap. Bartlet that had told me and from that time forward he sought with more violence than before to have me murdered as too plainly appeared by his after-actions and by two witnesses that I examined by order who gave it under their hands and offered to depose it That one of the L. C. his Conspirators against me often told them that the L. C. and this other Conspirator had hired a man to have stabb'd me because I was employed an Intelligencer for the Parliament of England and had not I escaped speedily away their business had been effected upon me But I understanding the L.C. his practises against me resolved on my voyage for England which being understood by the Lieut. Col. some more men besides himself with weapons way-laid me and Cap. Bartlet as we were to take boat for Ostend that so he might have executed what he had formerly spoke against me which was for this purpose as some afterwards confessed to me who had it from his own mouth that his carriages in Flanders should not be declared to the Parliament of England for said he as they have banished my person so they will sequester my estate But it pleased Almighty God this second time by his providence to protect me in giving me a resolution not to go till the morrow which the L.C. perceiving supposed himself to be discovered and recurred into the Town And suddenly therupon came one Cap. Bret an Irish Rebell to inquire for Cap. Bartlet with the said Cap.
for heretofore all his Business was mannaged by Ireton and is since by others And for the Generall himself he is as false a perfidious false-hearted Rogue as ever lived in the world And I know no reason why I should not vy with Cromwell since I had once as great a power as he had and greater too and am as good a Gentleman and of as good a family To this the said Duke replyed Sir if you have any Interest in England as you say you have I pray you to use it for me for I have a great desire to be reconciled to my native Country Then the said Lilburn perceiving he could not moove the said Duke to any thing in relation to his the said Lilburns proposalls and perswasions he the said Lilburn promised to use his interest in England on the said Dukes behalf to which purpose the said Lilburn wrote to some in England but to whom this Examinant knoweth not But with all the said Lilburn advised the said Duke not to stir in it yet This Examinant further saith that the said Lilburn said that there was one Rogers that was a Rogue for that he was a Spy for the Common-wealth of England and therefore he the said Lilburn would ruin and destroy him And that he the said Lilburn had discovered several that were imployd in that way before And after this apprehending the said Rogers was to come towards Bruges the said Lilburn lay an hour and a half waiting for the said Rogers his coming at Placingdoll three English miles from Ostend which was his way to Bruges The Examinant further saith that there was one Mr. Lambert a man that keeps much company with the said Lilburn who took the said Lilburn his house for him in Bruges that said that Lieut. C. Lilburn told him the said Lambert that he the said Lilburn had found a Rogue out one Rogers that was a Spy for the Common-wealth of England The said Lambert further said with another Papist commonly called by the name of Paracelsus as he the said Lambert was that if the said Rogers had staid two daies longer in the Town he the said Rogers should never have gone thence alive for that they would have him the said Rogers knocked on the head This Examinant further saith that the said Lilburn said that the Lord General had abused Major General Lambert who when time serv'd would be revenged on the General JOHN TYTUS The Examination of Capt. John Bartlet concerning Lieut. Col. John Lilburn A Bout the 20. of July 1652 in an Arbor in Placingdoll three miles from Ostend in Flanders Lieut. Col. John Lilburn did propose to Col. Charles Lloyd sometimes called Sir Charles Lloyd Quarter-master General and Egineer General to the late King in the late warres in England and to Capt. John Bartlet this Examinant and Capt. Luke Whittington Agent for the King of Scots that if he the said Charles Lloyd or any of the aforesaid persons would procure him ten thousand pounds he the said Lilburn would settle the King in his Throne to wit Charles Stuart in England And this Examinant further saith that at the same time the said Lilburn said that the King to wit Charles Stuart should never come into his Throne but by his the said Lilburns means And that he further said the said Lilburn did oppose the late Kings death more than any man in England besides then durst do And this Examinant further saith that the said Lilburn did then boast much of the largeness of his own party as he the said Lilburn called them which he had in England This Examinant further saith that there was a Rumor in Flanders that his Excellency the Lord General Cromwell was made Lord Admiral of the Seas and that he was to go to Sea in the Ship called the Soveraign the which when Lieut. Col. Lilburn heard he was very angry saying That the General had more commands than ever Julius Caesar had but t is no matter said he let him go to Sea when he will I le warrant him he shall never return or words to this effect This Examinant further saith That Lieut. Col. John Lilburn said that Mr. Rogers was a Spy for the Common-wealth of England as he was told by Lieut. Col. Layton And further said that if he the said Lilburn knew it certainly he would destroy the said Rogers And further said that he had warn'd the Duke of Buckingham the Lord Hopton Doctor Nicholas Judge of the Admiralty Court for the Scotch King in Dunkirk and several other Cavaliers that they should not trust him and the said Lilburn further said that he had spoild two of the Parliaments Spies already and would do the like to this And further said that he the said Lilburn and the said Col. Layton supposing which way the said Rogers would come lay an hour and a half waiting for him but though he mist him then he would ruin him afterwards and at this time the said Lilb commanded this Examinant to keep it secretly and to beware of him the said Rogers After this it appeared that the said Lilburn had intelligence that this Examinant had discovered to the said Rogers what had formerly past betwixt the said Lilburn and this Examinant as secrets and what is related in this Paper and understanding that the said Rogers and this Examinant were to go from Bruges to Ostend and so for England that non● of the said Lilburns actions might be declared there in England to the Parliament which the said Lilburn feard he the said Lilburn with certain others that he had procured with their weapons as Pistols and Swords way-laid the said Rogers and this Examinant but by Providence the said Rogers resolved not to go that day and prevalld with this Examinant to stay till the next which this Examinant did though they never heard any thing of the Conspiracy against them But their stay being understood by the said Lilburn and the rest of his conspirators one that was privy to the conspiracy Capt. Ignatius Brett an Irish Rebel with Capt. Luke Whittington came to the house where this Examinant and the said Rogers were and this said Brett sent for this Examinant and asked this Examinant what was the reason why this Examinant continued not his resolution for his journey This Examinant answered that by a friends advice he staid till to morrow The said Brett replyed you may thank God you went not down to the boat for had you gone ye had been harder put to it in fighting than ever you were in your dayes wherupon this Examinant asked the said Brett by whom the said Brett answered you shall excuse me I will never be a Traitor to them so long as I live but you know them all as well as I. Then the said Whittington being in company said I am glad with all my heart you went not down for the persons were Lilburn c. who were all well furnished for this purpose With that the said Brett