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A08707 The ansvvere of the vicechancelour, the doctors, both the proctors, and other the heads of houses in the Vniversitie of Oxford (agreeable, vndoubtedly, to the ioint and vniforme opinion, of all the deanes and chapters, and all other the learned and obedient cleargy, in the Church of England.) To the humble petition of the ministers of the Church of England, desiring reformation of certaine ceremonies and abuses of the Church. University of Oxford. 1603 (1603) STC 19011; ESTC S113819 26,966 50

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THE ANSVVERE OF THE VICECHANCELOVR THE DOCTORS both the Proctors and other the Heads of Houses in the Vniversitie of Oxford Agreeable vndoubtedly to the ioint and Vniforme opinion of all the Deanes and Chapters and all other the learned and obedient Cleargy in the Church of England To the humble Petition of the Ministers of the Church of England desiring Reformation of certaine Ceremonies and Abuses of the Church Beware of the Concision Philip. 3.2 Cum sub specie studij perfectionïs imperfectionem nullam tolerare possumus aut in Corpore aut in membris Ecclesiae tunc Diabolum nos tumefacere superbia hypocrisi seducere moneamur Calvin advers Anabapt Art 2. AT OXFORD Printed by Ioseph Barnes and are to be sold in Paules Church-yard at the signe of the Crowne by Simon VVaterson 1603. TO THE MOST REVEREND and Right Honorable the L. Archb. of Canterbury his Grace Primate and Metropolitane of all England the L. Buchurst L. High Treasurer of England and Chancelour of the Vniversity of Oxford the L. Cecill of Esingden Principall Secretarie to his Maiestie and Chancelour of the Vniversity of Cambridge Lords of his Maiesties most Honorable Privie Counsell MANY and excellent were the blessings which it pleased Almightie God to bestowe vpon this Nation by the Ministery of his chosen servant our late Soveraigne yet none of thē were comparable vnto these the Purity of Religion perpetually supported by one Vniforme most ancient kind of commendable Church government and the plenty of al manner of good learning abundantly derived from the two Welsprings therof into al the parts both of the Church and Common-wealth For the continuance both of them and the rest it was her wise and happy care to select and take neere vnto her successiuely Men of rare Endowmēts personal gifts men of deepe iudgment long experience great moderation loving learning and fearing God Whome therefore shee did place in chiefest authority vnder her that vnder her they might be the greater comfort to the Ministery the better encouragement vnto learning the more noble countenance to Religion and as the Prophet speaketh a Psal 21.6 set as blessings to the whole land In this honorable rancke we cannot Most Reverend Right Honorable without open wrong but acknowledge your Lordships to be second vnto none of all your predecessours The long experience that this kingdome hath had of your honorable Imployments for the maintenance of Religion and learning as your severall places doe speciallie require would checke our want of duty if wee did dissemble it and silence the detraction of any other that should goe about to impeach it Which as wee recount with singuler comfort for the daies that are past so for the present it is the very stay of our harts that the same ●od of his accustomed goodnes hath given the same minde vnto our most gracious and dread Soveraigne to preserue and propagate the same things in Church and Common-wealth by the Godly care prudent counsaile of the very selfesame Persons For had we not vnder his Princely wisedome clemency such immediate Patrones which now with long vse are growne into a very sympathy of our estates to whō we might resort in our needful times of trouble it would amate our mindes and vtterly astonish vs in our vnderstanddings to see the insolent endevours straunge attempts of sond Familists absurd Brownists perfidious Papists all of them with importunity and selfe-conceited confidence intending and expecting the innovation of Religion through the overthrow of the Cleargy and ruine of the Vniversities All which notwithstanding had not opened the dores of our lips nor made way to this our iust complaint but that there came to our sight long since An humble petition of a Thousand Ministers at once Which wee may well resemble vnto still running streames which are deepest there where they seeme to be most calme This wee beheld with great sorrow of heart considering how it is repleate with vnthankefulnes towards God for his mercies towards vs with iniury to Her gracious governmēt whose Memory be precious vnto all posterity with reproach to their Fathers that begot them in the Gospell with preiudice to the Breasts that if they be any thing did give them sucke with contempt of their Brethren and fellow Laborers at the least in the Lordes harvest Howbeit as long as it passed in private vnder the name of a particular motion made to his most excellent Maiestie we l●id our handes vpon our mouthes and with due reverence expected in silence the wise resolution of His religious heart But these men as they are impatiēt of delay or els to gaine credite with the people on whom they greatly do rely soone after send forth into al quarters of the Realm store of these pretended Petitions accompanied vvith such lewd false and absurde suggestions as if our noble King had lent their motion a favourable eare and given it some kind of consenting intertainment as if in all this they had done nothing whervnto they were not animated and encouraged by some of speciall credite with his Highnes as if some busie headed strangers had vndertaken their cause and ensured the safe conduit of their weather beaten barge to the haven of their hope Were there any such wee would request them to remember that it is neither manners nor discretion to take vppon them in a State wherein for ought we know they haue nothing to doe It may suffice that they are partakers of the good things of the land let them thanke God and the King and be quiet But wee are verily perswaded there are none such that this as all the rest is given out vnder hand among their credulous adherents onely ad faciendum populum A tricke of theirs with which we have bin long acquainted This course Right Honorable did make vs thinke that nowe they had altered the nature of that foresaide Schedule and of an Intitled Petition to his Maiesty Had made it a covert kind of libell Wherby securely as they thought they might depraue and slaunder not only the Communiō booke but the whole estate of the Church as it standes reformed by our late Soveraigne VVhich vndue dishonest practise having so changed the quality of their Petition whether it hath brought the Contrivers and Preferrers of it within the compasse of that statute 1. Elizab and made them lyable to the Penalties of the same we take not vpon vs to determine Howbeit hereof we could not but take notice that by their impunity diverse other very lewdly affected haue in diverse parts of the kingdome presumed to trouble his Maiesty and taxe the state with the like clamorous libelles and defamatory supplications The consideration whereof beganne to admonish vs that now it sorted with our duty to shewe our selues as truly zealous carefully religious in the defence of the Church for the quieting of mens mindes and setling of their consciences by some shorte animadversions vpon their
vel quocunque modo in Academia Cantabrigiensi publicè oppugnaverit ab omni gradu suscipiendo excludatur à suscepto suspendatur ipso facto Quod quidem Decretum concensu propè vnanimi comprobatum tabulis publicis Iunij * * Our private instructiō was as if it had bin decreed the 4. of Iune 9. 1603. consignatum nunc demum testatum cupimus vniversis vt intelligant omnes de Disciplina nostra non imposita sed suscepta liberè retenta quid existiment non in angulis Opiniastri nonnulli sed in aperto Senatu Cantabrigienses propè vniversi Quorum consensus cum tam fraternè concinat conspiret cum Apologia Oxoniensi cum Scripturis Patribus Concilijs Principum nostrorum Decretis Legibus Parliamentis eant nunc mille Isti libris nostris fere mille in hunc finem editis conscriptis cum erit otium facultas respondeant prius quàm Cramben toties decoctam Regitam prudenti tam literato tam impudenter obtrudant Aut si numerari malint quam ponderari suffragia cogitent homunciones miseri ab Academijs Musisque relicti quam nullius numeri sint quam planè nihili Valete fratres in Christo Charissimi nos nostramque Academiam summa vobis studiorum morum similitudine coniunctissimā vt facitis amate Cantab. Octob. 7. 1603. SVBSCRIBED By the Vice chancelour and others the Heades of the Vniversity of Cambridge THE HVMBLE PETITION OF THE MJNJSTERS OF THE Church of England desiring Reformation of certaine Ceremonies and abuses of the Church To the most Christian and excellent PRINCE our Gracious and dread Soveraigne IAMES by the grace of God c. Wee the Ministers of the Church of England that desire Reformation vvish a long prosperous and happie Raigne over vs in this life and in the next everlasting salvation MOST gracious dread Soveraigne seeing it hath pleased the devine Maiestie to the great comfort of all good Christians to advaunce your Highnes according to your iust title to the peaceable goverment of this Church and Common wealth of England we the Ministers of the Gospell in this land neither as factious men affecting a popular Paritie in the Church nor as Schismatikes ayming at the dissolution of the state Ecclesiasticall but as the faithfull servants of Christ and loyall subiectes to your Maiesty desiring and longing for the redresse of diverse abuses of the Church could doe no lesse in our obedience to God service to your Maiestie love to his Church then acquainte your Princely Maiestie vvith our particular griefes For as your Princely penne writeth The King as a good Physition must first know what peccant humors his pacient naturally is most subiect vnto before he can begin his cure And although divers of vs that sue for Reformation have formerly in respect of the times subscribed to the booke some vpon Protestatiō some vpon expositions given them some with condition rather then the Church shoulde haue beene deprived of theie labour and Ministery yet now we to the number of more then a thousand of your Maiesties subiectes and Ministers all groaning as vnder a common burden of humane Rites and Ceremonies do with one ioint consent humble our selues at your Maiesties feete to be cased and relieved in this behalfe Our humble suite then vnto your Maiestie is that these offences following some may be removed some amended some qualified 1 In the Church service That the Crosse in Baptisme interrogatories ministred to Infants Cōfirmation as superfluous may bee taken away Baptisme not to bee ministred by VVomen and so explaned The Cap and Surplice not vrged That examination may goe before the Communion That it bee ministred with a Sermon That diverse termes of Priests and Absolution and some other vsed with the Ring in mariage other such like in the booke may be corrected The long somenes of service abridged Church songs and Musicke moderated to better edification That the Lords day be not prophaned The rest vpon Holy-daies not so strictly vrged That there may bee an vniformity of doctrine prescribed No popish opinion to be any more taught or defended No Ministers Charged to teach their people to bow at the name of Iesus That the Canonicall Scriptures onely be read in the Church 2 Concerning Church Ministers That none hereafter be admitted into the Ministery but able and sufficient men and those to preach diligently and especially vpon the Lords day That such as bee already entred and cannot preach may either be removed and some charitable course taken with them for their reliefe or else to be forced according to the valew of their livings to mainetaine preachers That Non-residencie be not permitted That King Edwards statute for the lawfulnes of Ministers mariage be revived That Ministers be not vrged to subscribe but according to the Law to the Articles of Religion and the Kings supremacy onely 3 For Church livings and maintenance That Bishops leave their Cōmendams some holding Prebends some Parsonages some Vicarages with their Bishoprickes That double beneficed men be not suffered to hold some two some three benefices with cure and some two three or foure dignities besides That Impropriatiōs annexed to Bishoprickes and Colledges be demised only to the Preachers Incumbēts for the old Rent That the Impropriations of Lay mens fee may be charged with a sixt or seaventh part of the worth to the maintenance of the preaching Minister 4 For Church Discipline That the Discipline and Excommunicatiō may be administred according to Christs ovvne institution Or at the least that enormities may bee redressed As namelie That Excommunication come not forth vnder the name of Lay persons Chauncellours Officials c. That men be not excommunicated for trifles and twelue-penny matters That none be excōmunicated without consent of his Pastor That the officers be not suffered to extort vnreasonable fees That none having iurisdiction or Register places put out the same to farme That diverse Popish Canons as for restraint of marriage at certeine times be reversed That the Long-somnes of suites in Ecclesiasticall courts which hang sometime two three foure five sixe or seaven yeares may be restrained That the Oth ex officio wherby men are forced to accuse themselues bee more sparingly vsed That Licenses for mariage without Banes asked be more cautiously granted These with such other Abuses yet remaining practised in the Church of England we are able to shew not to be agreeable to the Scriptures if it shall please your Highnes farther to heare vs or more at large by writing to be enformed or by cōference among the learned to be resolved And yet we doubt not but that vvithout anie farther processe your Maiesty of whose Christian iudgement we have received so good a tast alreadie is able of your selfe to iudge of the equity of this cause God we trust hath appointed your Highnes our Physition to heale these diseases And we say with Mordecai to Hester who