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A05535	A true narration of all the passages of the proceedings in the generall Assembly of the Church of Scotland, holden at Perth the 25. of August, anno Dom. 1618 VVherein is set downe the copy of his Maiesties letters to the said Assembly: together with a iust defence of the Articles therein concluded, against a seditious pamphlet. By Dr. Lyndesay, Bishop of Brechen.	Lindsay, David, d. 1641?; Calderwood, David, 1575-1650. Perth assembly.	1621 (1621)	STC 15657; ESTC S108553	266,002	446

for parts of Gods worship instituted by himselfe as ye vrge sitting at the Table in the Sacrament of the Sup●er or when it is vrged ●hat they be reiected and excluded ●rom the worship of God as simply vnlawfull and which may be vsed without breach of some diuine Ordinance as ●ou will haue kneeling and the commemoration of Gods ●nestimable benefits ●pon the fiue Anniuersary dayes the ●ebration of ●he Sacraments in cases of necessity in priuate places and the examination and blessing of yong Children ●y the Bishop in his Visitation ●he contentious maintenance of such points against the order of the Church can neither stand with Pietie nor Charitie nor with the Apo●tolicall Rules Whatsoeuer is not of faith is sinne Giue no offence neither to the ●ew nor to the Grecian nor to the Church if God Let all things be done honestly and in order The fourth Article PP They giue way to humane ●nuentions and bring the wrong key of mans wit within the house of God whereby ●oves and ●rifling Ceremonies in number and force are mul●iplyed as mens wits are variable to inuent Who requireth those things at your hands ANS The determination of the circumstantiall Ceremonies belonging to the formes times places and persons by whom where when and how God should bee worshipped concluded by the Assembly at Perth giue no way to humane inuention nor bring within the house of God any key but that which God hath giuen to his Church for pie●y and edification and for establishing of order and decencie to be●●ed ●n his worship which things God requireth at our hands The fift Article PP The admitting of some openeth the doore to the rest the multitude of such make vs inferiour to the Iewes in two respects First Their Ceremonies were all diuine Secondly In number fewer then rituall Christians do obserue betwixt the Pasche and Pentecost Gerson complayneth Quod multitudine leuissimarum ceremoniarum vis omnis Spiritus sancti quem in nobis vigere oportuit vera pietas sit extincta that with the multitude of friuolous Ceremonies true pietie was extinguished and the force of the Spirit which ought to bee powerfull in vs. Iewell Apollog p. 116. Sed quamuis hoc neque inueniri possit c. Aug. Epist. 119. Howbeit it cannot bee found how they are contrary to the faith yet they presse downe Religion it selfe with seruile burthens so that the estate of the Iewes is more tolerable who howbeit they did now acknowledge the time of their liberty are subiect notwithstanding to the burthens of the Law not to the presumptions of man Quanto magis accedit cumulo c. Confess Orthodox cap. 27. that is The more that the heape of Rites and Ceremonies in the Church increaseth the more is derogated not onely from Christian libertie but also from Christ and his faith learned graue men may like better of the single forme of Policie in our Church then of the many Ceremonies of the Church of England Epist. before Basilicon Doron ANS Some Ceremonies must bee admitted otherwise neither order nor decencie can be obserued in the worship of God and the admission of such as be lawfull and profitable is not ●he cause of introducing vnnecessary burthens but when ●he Church extendeth her libertie beyond the bounds assigned thereto of order and decency and moderateth not the ●se of her power according to the ●●ostolicall Rules of pie●● and charity 1. Cor. 10. ●1 Whatsoeuer yee doe doe all to the ●lory of God 1. Cor. 14.26 Let all things ●e done to edification Rom 14.10 Let 〈◊〉 ther●ore follow after the things which make ●or peace and things wherewith one may edifie another Gal. 5. ● Stand in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made you free and ●e not intangled againe with the 〈◊〉 of bondage When ●hese rules are no● looked to and thereby the power of the Church moderated and keened within the limits of circumstantiall things belonging only to the manners times and places of diuine worship w●ereof some of necessitie must be determined and appointed to bee vsed in the worship of God vnnecessary burdens are laid vpon the Church as it was in Papistr● Against this abuse the complaints of Ger●on and Augustine are directed which ye shall neuer be able to apply truly against the Ceremonies determined and con●luded at Perth which are all within the compasse of the Apostolicall Canons and concerne only circumstantiall ●hings and there be farre more learned and graue men who ●ike better of them then of our former order as after shall be cleered in the dispute The sixt Article PP Matters of that nature bring ineuitably with them disputations diuisions contentions as may be seen in all Churches where such coales of contention get entrie The Pascha of the Primitiue Church c. ANS It is not the nature of the matters but the nature of contentious persons that for such matters take occasion to make question and strife The seuenth Article PP They hinder edification for how much time and zeale shall bee spent vpon the in-bringing and establishing of these as much leisure and oportunity Satan getteth to sow and water the tares of Ath●isme Schisme Popery and Dissention Consider the sen●●nce following Let vs proceed by one rule that we may minde one thing c. ANS This is a prophetical Article easie to bee diuined by these who had already concluded by their opposition and contradiction to hinder the peaceable in-bringing therof to open a gate of dissention wherby Satan might enter to sow the tares of Schisme Atheisme and Popery in the Church yet obedient and peaceable Pastors haue in their Congregations brought in practice all these things without losse of time or trauell And Satan Schisme Atheisme and Popery had bin debarred and the work had pleasantly and profitably gone forward had the rest concurred with them according to the golden sentēces following First Let vs proceed by one rule that we may mind one thing Secondly Let vs follow the truth in loue Thirdly Giue no place to the Deuill Fourthly Let no root of bitternesse spring vp to trouble you Fiftly Fulfill my ioy that yee bee like minded hauing the same loue being of one accord and one iudgement that nothing bee done through contention or vaine glory but that in meeknesse of minde euery man esteeme other better then himselfe Sixtly Doe all things without murmuring and reasoning The eighth Article PP They bring a sensible blot either vpon the happie memory of our godly and wise Predecessors in so farre as wee depart from that reformation so wisely brought in appointed established by them or else vpon our selues by resuming againe of dangerous superfluities without reason reiected by them for weighty and necessary causes Magnum est hoc Dei munus c. Beza Epist. to Master Knox. This is a great benefite of God that yee brought into Scotland true religion and good order the bond that retayneth doctrine at one time So I

meete for a Parochiall or Diocesian Church such as Geneua or Berne is not fit in all respects for the vniuersall or for a Nationall Church That at the beginning of the reformation sundrie circumstantiall Ceremonies were changed or abolished for Superstition which now tending to edification and preseruation of Gods worship from prophanenesse and to make conformitie and vnitie both with the Primitiue and reformed Churches may be lawfully and profitably receiued That antiquity in such things and vniuersall consent not repugnant to veritie is farre to be preferred to new and recent conceits and customes of priuate persons and Churches These things the Bishops would wish from their hearts had beene and were better pondered by brethren and that for such matters wilfull contradiction bitter contention and disobedience had not brought them vnder the censure of the Lawes and power of authoritie PP They haue broken the caueats made with their owne consent violated their promises and haue sought preheminence both in Church and Common-wealth with the ruine of others and renting of their mothers belly ANS Neither haue yee nor can yee alledge any promise made by them violated or caueat broken that hath not beene abrogated by posterior Acts of lawfull Assemblies as beeing contrary to the lawfull power of their calling Neither haue they sought preheminence in Church nor Common-wealth but that which according to Lawes Ciuill and Ecclesiasticall belongs to their Function The restitution whereof if they had not craued they had beene Traytors both to the Church and Common-wealth against the which some brethren standing out too contentiously haue inuolued themselues in vnnecessary troubles and haue pressed with you to rent the belly of their Mother the peace and vnitie of the Church with Schisme PP We haue notwithstanding beene so silent hitherto that the World hath iudged our silence rather slumbring and slouthfulnesse then true patience ANS If you be the man who is pretended to bee the penner of this Pamphlet your silence hath not beene so great as is heere alledged for both by writing and word yet haue bi● euer vttering your miscontentment with great acerbitie against the persons and function of your brethren and his Maiesties good and godly intentions wherein yee haue studied more to please the World then to procure the weale of the Church with the honour of God and obedience of your Prince PP They are not satisfied with the wrongs alreadie committed but doe still prouoke vs with new irritant occasions ANS Many men of your humour are crabbed without cause who being in the gall of bitternesse count right wrong and good to be euill and seeke occasions where none are offered to spue out their choler PP And specially by obtruding vpon vs superstitious Wil-worships and polluted inuentions of men ANS What was concluded in a lawfull Assembly was not obtruded and by Gods grace in the answere to your Pamphlet it shall bee manifest that the Assembly hath condemned all polluted inuentions of men and all superstitious Wil-worships and that your selfe is a very superstitious Dogmatist of Wil-worship PP It behooueth vs therefore to set pen to paper and say somewhat for the surer stay and better information of Professors tenderly affected to the sinceritie of Religion least they bee deluded with the glorious name of a pretended and new Assembly or seduced with Temporizers swallowing vp all abominations or corruptions whatsoeuer ANS Let the Christian and gentle Reader consider what information good and sincere Professours may expect from such a poysonable pen that beginneth to fill vp the paper with such venemous words calling the lawfull meeting of the Church a pretended new Assembly his brethren of the Ministery Seducers Temporizers Swallowers vp of all abominations or corruptions whatsoeuer for whom wee answere Multi sint licet impotentis irae Pellem rodere qui velint caninam Nos hac à scabie tenemus vngues PP The meanes of printing and publishing are to vs verie difficile ANS The Quarter-masters and Collectours of the voluntary Contributions through Fyiffe Lowthiane Edinburgh and other parts of the Land for setting forth of this worke say that you haue no cause to complaine And if in times comming your paines bee as well recompenced this trade of penning printing and publishing shall bee more gainfull then your stipend was for your Ministery PP We wish therefore euery good Christian to take in good part our meane trauels ANS Although your trauels had no other fault but that they were meane yet your cessation from better businesse cannot be excused but they being withall seditious and pernicious no good Christian will take them in good part PP And not impute to vs the want of good will but of meanes if they be not serued hereafter continually after this manner Wee shall bee readie God willing for our owne part as need shall require and opportunitie will serue to defend the cause wee maintayne against any of our Opposites their Answeres or Replyes whatsoeuer worthy of answere ANS I hope no man who readeth this Pamphlet will impute to you the want of goodwill to doe euill that is of a wicked will to furnish fewell to the fire of dissention in the Church And if by your Thrasonicall boasts and brags you can perswade these whom for want of sufficient knowledge and faith yee delude and seduce with subtile Sophismes and superstitious feares to furnish meanes that is money for penning and printing as they haue done profusely for setting forth this Rapsodie there is no doubt but Answeres shall come forth vpon Answeres Defences vpon Defences Replyes vpon Replyes vntill yee haue wearied the World with your vanities PP We haue seene of late some Pamphlets which haue rather exposed their Authors to laughter and contempt then deserued any serious confutation ANS It is the nature of enuifull arrogance by contemning and laughing at others to hunt her owne prayse Sed facilis cuiuis rigidi censura cachinni PP In the Epistle before 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his Maiestie protesteth vpon his honour that hee misliketh not generally all Preachers or others who like better of the single forme of policie in our Church then of the many Ceremonies in the Church of England and are perswaded that their Bishops smell of a Papall Supremacie that the Surplice the Corner-cap and such like are the outward badges of Popish errors and that he doth equally loue and honour the Learned and graue men of these opinions ANS If yee had imitated this most Christian example of your gracious Soueraigne you would not for errour of wilfull opinion haue turned your loue into hatred and your reuerence into contempt of your brethren PP His Maiestie vseth this prouision that where the Law is otherwise they preasse by patience and wel-grounded reasons either to perswade all the rest to like of their iudgement or where they see better grounds on the other part not to be ashamed peaceably to incline thereunto laying aside all preoccupyed opinions ANS If

anger and indignation which diuerse of your selues haue seene I trauelled at the Ministers their earnest solicitation by all the wayes I could to diuert the troubles which before this time most certainly yee would haue felt And all that hath proceeded since ye know So as I spake before I would if it had beene in my power most willingly haue declined the receiuing of these Articles Not that I did esteeme them either vnlawfull or inconuenient for I am so farre perswaded of the contrary as I can bee of any thing but I foresaw the contradiction which would bee made and the businesse we should fall into Therefore let no man deceiue himselfe these things proceede from his Maiestie and are his owne motions not any others I heare others say they could agree with the Articles but that they take them to be introductions of the rest of the English Ceremonies wherewith they cannot away To this I answer That the ready way to haue the rest imposed is to offend his Maiestie by our resisting and the way to be freed of them is to approue our selues in the obedience of these Thereby both yee and wee shall finde a more gracious hearing in any thing that concerneth the Church Call to mind the eourses of former times and tell me if our oppositions did euer gayne vs any thing If experience will not make vs wise what can But this others say is hard to bee done because our preaching and practice haue both beene to the contrarie and a yeelding now cannot but s●ayne our credits I will not reply that it is no credit to be constant in euill nor any discredit to change for the better for this would sound harshly in the eares of many onely I shall wish those who stand so much for their credit to lay before themselues Saint Pauls example who became all to all that hee might saue some Hee had preached against Circumcision against the keeping of the Iewish Sabbaths their new Moones and other Rites he had called them yokes burthens impotent and beggarly rudiments and reproued Saint Peter for making the Gentiles conforme to the Iewes in these things yet after all this he circumcised Timothy and practised himselfe diuers of their Ceremonies The reason was that he saw no other way to redeeme the libertie of his Ministerie further the Gospell and increase the Churches In this hee placed his credit and so hee did speed in that hee stood not much what men reported of him If the zeale of God leade vs and the loue of his Church wee will not looke so much to our selues and to our owne reputation as to the furthering of the worke of the Gospell It will be replyed I know that not for themselues but for the offence of the people they feare to admit these things For hauing preached against holy dayes and the rest and hauing defended the Constitutions of the Church which now must be altered there cannot but great offence ensue I can make no other answer to this then say That I trust none of our Preachers haue stood against the keeping of dayes simply but against the superstitious keeping of them as Papists doe and against the lasciuiousnesse of people prophaning those dayes by vnlawfull exercises Nor haue wee taught at any time sitting to be of the essence of the Sacrament and a Rite that may not be changed for in that case it is necessary for the Truths sake to informe them otherwise and make it seene that wee loue Truth more then our owne reputation If our iudgements haue beene misse-led and that we haue misse-led others it is good that we being resolued of the Truth helpe to resolue others also But I doe not suppose any such ignorance in my brethren I know people thinke many times wee contradict our selues when there is nothing lesse for they distinguish not well of things and haue many mistakings Alwayes this is sure the framing of peoples conceits lyes much in our hands The Dayes required to bee obserued haue beene kept this last yeare in the chiefe Burghes by his Maiesties command what offenc● thereof did we find amongst the people The Communio● hath beene giuen and receiued in that reuerend forme Wh● was scandalized Some few perhaps that would seeme singular for holinesse by the rest and others because they sa● their Ministers forbeare but generally such as communic●●ted who were not a few number professed that in the●● time they neuer found more comfort and better motion● which their teares and deuout behauiour testified to all th● beholders But this they say takes not away the offence for Papists will boast that wee are drawing backe towards them and the godly cannot but be grieued that haue a dislike of their Ceremonies For Papists first wee are not to regard them It is their manner to make aduantage of euery thing say or doe what wee will they will still speake euill of the Truth Are the Churches of England Germany and Bohemie in better termes with Papists then wee Yee know not how things goe in the world if yee thinke so Papists are not the fooles we take them to be pleased with shadowes they haue other more substantiall notes by which they discerne their friends then by ceremonies As for the godly amongst vs wee are sorry they should bee grieued but it is their owne fault for if the things be in themselues lawfull what is it that should offend them They say these alterations can worke no good I answer The alteration is necessary if it bee necessary for our Church to inioy his Maiesties fauour and if it be necessary it must also be profitable Naem causa necessitatis vtilitatis aequiparantur in iure But if they thinke that we should regard their offence and offence of other good Christians let them know that the offence of our gracious Soueraigne is more to vs then theirs and a thousand moe Yet were it not better that his Maiestie should by his authoritie inioyne them rather then the Church giue any consent and when the time shall grow better we may then returne to our old custome for these are the motions of some What they call better times I know not but our fathers saw neuer so good times nor is it to be hoped that our posteritie shall see the like Continuance detracts from the worth of things at least in our conceits wee haue enioyed peace and libertie so long that we little know how precious they are But had we beene in the coates of our fathers or could wee remember the straits our first Reformers stood in and were brought vnto in the same Citie when that good Earle Alexander came to their reliefe wee would thinke it no small blessing to haue our Profession countenanced by Authoritie As to that which they desire that his Maiestie should inioyn these things by Authoritie I leaue it to you to iudge how dangerous the same may proue to the Church If cōformity be enioyned be sure it wil not be