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significabatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o which_o thing_n it_o be_v signify_v plain_o that_o by_o confirmation_n baptism_n be_v in_o some_o sort_n perfect_v which_o be_v say_v by_o some_o bishop_n of_o rome_n he_o cit_v in_o the_o margin_n vrbanus_n and_o melchiade_n heretic_n do_v not_o only_o impudent_o but_o also_o unlearned_o laugh_v at_o it_o and_o canisius_n also_o say_v he_o be_v no_o perfect_a christian_a who_o be_v not_o confirm_v and_o so_o m._n nicholas_n while_o he_o condemn_v m._n doctor_n for_o say_v that_o without_o confirmation_n we_o be_v not_o perfect_a christian_n and_o for_o allege_v s._n clement_n for_o proof_n of_o that_o he_o say_v condemn_v also_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o all_o divine_n who_o write_v of_o this_o matter_n yea_o jesuites_n themselves_o and_o so_o i_o can_v tell_v how_o hereafter_o he_o can_v look_v they_o in_o the_o face_n yea_o he_o favour_v caluin_n as_o we_o have_v see_v m._n doctor_n immediate_o after_o s._n clement_n cit_v s._n dionysius_n areop_n lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n hierar_fw-it c._n 5._o call_v the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n a_o perfect_a sacrament_n pag._n 8._o n._n 17._o the_o reply_n s._n denis_n call_v the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n a_o perfect_a and_o consummate_v action_n 27._o m._n doctor_n in_o call_v the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n a_o perfect_a and_o consummate_v action_n say_v no_o more_o than_o card._n bellarmin_n do_v who_o to_o prove_v confirmation_n a_o sacrament_n allege_v some_o greek_a father_n 3._o dion_n l._n di_o eccl._n hier._n c._n 2_o p._n 3._o c_o 4._o p._n 3._o and_o first_o s._n denis_n in_o these_o word_n perficiens_fw-la illa_fw-la unctio_fw-la facit_fw-la perfectum_fw-la that_o perfect_a unction_n make_v perfect_a and_o again_o sed_fw-la &_o ipsis_fw-la &c._n &c._n but_o to_o they_o also_o who_o be_v consecrate_v by_o the_o most_o holy_a mystery_n of_o regeneration_n the_o consummate_v unction_n of_o the_o ointment_n do_v give_v the_o come_n of_o the_o 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to_o this_o sacrament_n as_o effect_n thereof_o and_o for_o this_o he_o allege_v s._n dionysius_n s._n clement_n even_o in_o the_o place_n above_o allege_v by_o m._n doctor_n and_o say_v that_o s._n clement_n say_v 8._o dion_n l_o eccl._n high_a c._n 4._o p._n 3._o clem._n l._n 3_o con_fw-la apost_n c_o 17_o &_o epist_n 4_o fabia_n cp_n 2._o add_v cp_n orien_n corn._n aoud_a euscb_n l._n 6._o c._n 35_o melch._n ep_v ad_fw-la epist_n hisp_n dyon_n carth._n in_o elucidat_fw-la c_o 4_o in_o initiâ—ar_n 8._o one_o can_v be_v a_o perfect_a christian_a without_o it_o and_o cit_v to_o this_o end_n s._n fabian_n pope_n s._n cornelius_n s._n melchiade_n and_o other_o and_o this_o m._n nicholas_n will_v not_o see_v nor_o acknowledge_v for_o fear_n lest_o thence_o may_v be_v infer_v that_o without_o confirmation_n one_o can_v be_v a_o perfect_a christian_a only_o he_o can_v espy_v cap._n 5._o for_o c._n 4._o which_o fault_n if_o he_o have_v be_v corrector_n of_o the_o print_n may_v have_v be_v prevent_v 28._o whereas_o m._n nicholas_n say_v that_o s._n denys_n in_o that_o 4._o chapter_n speak_v of_o baptism_n and_o some_o time_n general_o of_o oil_n and_o unction_n use_v not_o only_o in_o diverse_a sacrament_n but_o also_o in_o consecration_n of_o altar_n as_o though_o in_o that_o chapter_n he_o speak_v not_o of_o confirmation_n dionysius_n carthusianus_n stand_v against_o he_o in_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o his_o elucidation_n of_o that_o 4._o chapter_n say_v postquam_fw-la praehabito_fw-la immedtatè_fw-la capitulo_fw-la etc._n etc._n after_o that_o by_o s._n denys_n it_o have_v be_v treat_v in_o the_o immediate_a a_o foresayed_a chapter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n of_o the_o celebration_n rite_n or_o hierarchicall_a act_n about_o it_o here_o in_o the_o 4._o chapter_n the_o same_o now_o be_v do_v of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n m._n nicholas_n his_o other_o chief_a argument_n be_v out_o of_o estius_n in_o these_o word_n quod_fw-la si_fw-la quaeras_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o if_o thou_o ask_v whether_o the_o omission_n of_o confirmation_n when_o it_o can_v commodious_o be_v have_v etc._n etc._n pagin_v 87._o numero_fw-la 18._o the_o reply_n m._n nicholas_n make_v m._n doctor_n say_v more_o than_o he_o do_v to_o wit_n that_o every_o one_o in_o particular_a be_v bind_v to_o take_v confirmation_n with_o hazard_n of_o persecution_n whereas_o m._n doctor_n say_v only_o that_o a_o country_n shall_v hazard_v persecution_n rather_o than_o want_v confirmation_n c._n estius_n in_o 4._o d._n c._n 29._o estius_n propose_v a_o question_n whether_o the_o omission_n of_o confirmation_n when_o it_o may_v be_v have_v commodiouslie_o be_v a_o mortal_a or_o venial_a sin_n and_o answer_v that_o it_o can_v be_v omit_v without_o mortal_a sin_n in_o time_n and_o place_n of_o persecution_n of_o faith_n when_o forsooth_o by_o reason_n of_o infirmity_n there_o be_v danger_n to_o a_o man_n lest_o he_o deny_v his_o faith_n in_o word_n or_o deed_n or_o at_o least_o be_v ash_n im_v to_o confess_v his_o faith_n when_o he_o shall_v and_o m_o doctor_n say_v the_o same_o as_o appeareth_z by_o his_o word_n which_o immediate_o follow_v these_o word_n of_o estius_n for_o if_o the_o reader_n turn_v over_o to_o the_o page_n 386._o and_o 8._o number_n he_o shall_v find_v these_o word_n of_o m._n doctor_n but_o howsoever_o although_o every_o man_n in_o particular_a can_v be_v condemn_v of_o sin_n for_o omit_v confirmation_n for_o fear_n of_o lose_v his_o life_n land_n or_o liberty_n yet_o i_o think_v that_o neither_o any_o country_n or_o any_o one_o of_o the_o country_n for_o fear_n of_o persecution_n can_v oppose_v against_o the_o come_n in_o of_o a_o bishop_n though_o thereby_o only_o the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n hold_v be_v want_v 30._o so_o that_o m_o nicholas_n play_v not_o fair_a play_n with_o m._n doctor_n in_o make_v he_o say_v that_o catholic_n in_o particular_a be_v bind_v to_o receive_v confirmation_n with_o loss_n of_o 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persecution_n in_o
constitute_v also_o ad_fw-la beneplacitum_fw-la papae_fw-la and_o yet_o as_o we_o have_v prove_v out_o of_o sylvester_n and_o the_o canon_n law_n he_o be_v ordinary_a and_o so_o it_o will_v be_v hard_a fellow_v the_o opinion_n of_o these_o auctour_n for_o i_o will_v say_v nothing_o of_o myself_o but_o refer_v the_o determination_n of_o this_o to_o superior_n for_o m._n nicholas_n to_o exclude_v my_o lord_n of_o chalcedon_n from_o be_v a_o ordinary_a by_o commission_n or_o delegation_n if_o this_o anger_n m._n nicholas_n let_v he_o blame_v himself_o for_o that_o i_o will_v not_o have_v touch_v this_o point_n if_o he_o have_v not_o provoke_v i_o in_o his_o four_o number_n he_o tax_v m._n doctor_n for_o allege_v s._n ambrose_n 1_o tim._n 3._o the_o book_n be_v doubtful_a but_o m._n doctor_n have_v allege_v other_o proof_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o bishop_n have_v a_o high_a rank_n in_o the_o church_n than_o the_o priest_n and_o writer_n use_v to_o allege_v diverse_a book_n of_o father_n which_o yet_o be_v doubt_v of_o by_o some_o this_o m._n nicholas_n may_v have_v overpass_o m._n nicholas_n here_o nu_fw-la 14._o he_o teach_v that_o catholic_n ought_v to_o contribute_v maintenance_n to_o my_o lord_n of_o chalcedon_n n._n 5._o the_o reply_n this_o m._n nicholas_n shall_v not_o have_v object_v 16._o m._n nicholas_n make_v m._n doctor_n a_o beggar_n for_o my_o lord_n of_o chalcedon_n maintenance_n wherein_o he_o show_v little_a respect_n to_o my_o lord_n m._n doctor_n only_o allege_v s._n paul_n 5._o 1._o ti._n 5._o to_o prove_v that_o priest_n or_o bishop_n who_o rule_v well_o shall_v be_v esteem_v worthy_a of_o double_a honour_n that_o be_v not_o only_o of_o the_o honour_n of_o cap_n and_o knee_n but_o also_o of_o honourable_a maintenance_n and_o therefore_o we_o see_v that_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n be_v by_o the_o church_n honourable_o provide_v for_o but_o m._n nicholas_n object_v that_o s._n 5._o s._n th._n 2_o 2.188_o be_v 4_o ad_fw-la 5._o thomas_n say_v that_o 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unto_o you_o spiritual_a thing_n be_v it_o a_o great_a matter_n if_o we_o reap_v your_o carnal_a thing_n and_o a_o little_a after_o they_o that_o serve_v the_o altar_n participate_v with_o the_o altar_n so_o also_o our_o lord_n ordain_v for_o they_o that_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o live_v of_o the_o gospel_n 1._o s._n th._n 2.2_o q._n 87._o a._n 1._o and_o s._n thomas_n and_o other_o divine_n affirm_v that_o by_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n the_o people_n be_v bind_v to_o give_v in_o general_a necessary_n to_o they_o that_o minister_v unto_o they_o the_o thing_n that_o pertain_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o their_o salvation_n as_o the_o same_o people_n be_v bind_v to_o minister_v necessary_n to_o soldier_n and_o prince_n that_o fight_n for_o they_o or_o have_v care_n of_o their_o common_a wealth_n though_o the_o determinate_a part_n which_o divine_v call_v quota_fw-la and_o which_o in_o the_o old_a law_n be_v the_o ten_o part_n be_v of_o the_o positine_a law_n and_o so_o 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a_o hierarchy_n which_o consist_v of_o diverse_a particular_a church_n 22._o yet_o i_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o pope_n to_o honour_v a_o bishopric_n which_o before_o his_o popedom_n he_o enjoy_v may_v retain_v still_o the_o title_n of_o that_o bishopric_n 1._o exit_fw-la baron_n anno_o 1849._o leon_n papa_n 9_o anno_fw-la 1._o as_o leo_n ix_o do_v the_o title_n of_o the_o bishopric_n of_o tulle_n yea_o he_o may_v tho_o universal_a bishop_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v also_o the_o particular_a bishop_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o he_o be_v de_fw-fr facto_fw-la particular_a bishop_n of_o s._n john_n lateran_n but_o then_o he_o must_v either_o do_v the_o office_n there_o of_o a_o bishop_n by_o himself_o or_o by_o his_o delegate_v or_o at_o least_o he_o must_v take_v unto_o himself_o the_o title_n of_o that_o church_n not_o only_o in_o name_n but_o in_o very_a deed_n else_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v a_o particular_a bishop_n i_o say_v or_o at_o least_o he_o 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assertion_n pag._n 376._o n._n 2._o which_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n such_o as_o be_v england_n spain_n france_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n be_v moderate_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o assertion_n of_o sotus_n who_o say_v that_o every_o diocese_n by_o the_o divine_a law_n in_o the_o aforesayed_a sense_n must_v have_v its_o bishop_n and_o to_o this_o purpose_n only_o he_o cite_v sotus_n and_o therefore_o that_o be_v not_o modest_o nor_o true_o say_v of_o m._n nicholas_n but_o odiouslie_o and_o not_o so_o charitable_o as_o may_v be_v expect_v of_o he_o in_o the_o 10._o number_n towards_o the_o end_n where_o he_o he_o say_v final_o m._n doctor_n i_o doubt_v not_o will_v be_v more_o circumspect_a in_o allege_v author_n lest_o he_o do_v wrong_v his_o own_o reputation_n the_o author_n themselves_o the_o reader_n and_o most_o of_o all_o the_o truth_n rather_o m._n nicholas_n shall_v have_v be_v more_o modest_a and_o 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every_o particular_a church_n or_o diocese_n but_o if_o we_o respect_v the_o divine_a law_n there_o be_v not_o more_o reason_n of_o one_o than_o another_o ergo_fw-la all_o the_o diocese_n of_o england_n may_v be_v govern_v without_o a_o bishop_n but_o m._n doctor_n will_v deny_v his_o mayor_n as_o it_o be_v father_v on_o he_o for_o he_o neither_o affirm_v nor_o deny_v that_o every_o diocese_n must_v have_v its_o bishop_n only_o he_o say_v pag._n 375._o that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o certain_a that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n there_o must_v be_v a_o bishop_n in_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a church_n as_o that_o in_o general_a there_o must_v be_v bishop_n in_o the_o church_n &_o pag._n 376._o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n it_o be_v true_a sotus_n say_v that_o it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o diocese_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n but_o m._n doctor_n neither_o 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