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A61434 Of prayers for the dead whether the practice and tradition thereof in the Church be truly Catholick, and a competent evidence of apostolick original and authority? : humbly tendred to the consideration of ... Stephens, Edward, d. 1706. 1699 (1699) Wing S5432; ESTC R24617 43,790 52

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