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B20815 A non est inventus return'd to Mr. Edward Bagshaw's Enquiry, and vainly boasted discovery of weakness in the grounds of the churches infallibility also his seditious invectives against the moderate sincerity of Protestants, and savage cruelty against Roman Catholicks repressed / by a Catholick gentleman. Cressy, Serenus, 1605-1674. 1662 (1662) Wing C6899 45,331 119

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