Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
england_n	catholic_n	church_n	member_n	3,055	5	8.9004	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A46648	A letter to a friend, containing some quæries about the new commission for making alterations in the liturgy, canons, &c. of the Church of England	Jane, William, 1645-1707.; Sherlock, William, 1641?-1707.	1689 (1689)	Wing J453; ESTC R3439	4,308	7

a_o letter_n to_o a_o friend_n contain_v some_o query_n about_o the_o new_a commission_n for_o make_v alteration_n in_o the_o liturgy_n canon_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n sir_n in_o your_o last_o you_o seem_v much_o concern_v about_o the_o new_a commission_n and_o desire_v my_o opinion_n of_o it_o i_o be_o very_o unfit_a to_o resolve_v your_o doubt_n in_o this_o matter_n have_v many_o of_o my_o own_o which_o i_o shall_v reduce_v into_o some_o query_n hope_v that_o you_o may_v have_v opportunity_n of_o consult_v with_o some_o of_o the_o commissioner_n who_o may_v be_v able_a to_o give_v you_o a_o more_o satisfactory_a answer_n than_o i_o can_v first_o concern_v the_o nature_n of_o these_o intend_a alteration_n q._n i._o whether_o there_o be_v any_o necessity_n of_o such_o alteration_n in_o the_o liturgy_n or_o as_o some_o say_v of_o it_o whatever_o may_v be_v pretend_v as_o to_o canon_n and_o ecclesiastical_a court_n if_o there_o be_v any_o for_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o member_n of_o our_o church_n who_o general_o believe_v there_o be_v none_o why_o be_v not_o this_o necessity_n make_v appear_v and_o the_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n confute_v if_o there_o be_v none_o inquire_v whether_o it_o be_v for_o the_o reputation_n and_o establishment_n of_o the_o church_n or_o for_o the_o increase_n of_o reverence_n and_o devotion_n in_o the_o people_n to_o be_v so_o frequent_o meditate_v unnecessary_a alteration_n q._n ii_o if_o these_o alteration_n be_v not_o pretend_v to_o be_v necessary_a inquire_v what_o the_o fitness_n and_o expediency_n of_o they_o be_v whether_o they_o be_v intend_v for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o church_n or_o for_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o dissenter_n or_o to_o serve_v both_o these_o end_n together_o 1._o if_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v it_o not_o be_v first_o inquire_v whether_o the_o church_n desire_v it_o and_o what_o alteration_n she_o desire_v ought_v she_o not_o to_o be_v consult_v in_o such_o matter_n as_o be_v intend_v for_o her_o advantage_n shall_v not_o the_o convocation_n then_o have_v first_o meet_v and_o consider_v whether_o any_o alteration_n at_o this_o time_n be_v expedient_a before_o the_o commissioner_n have_v trouble_v themselves_o to_o make_v such_o alteration_n and_o become_v bind_v in_o honour_n to_o defend_v they_o or_o be_v it_o for_o the_o peace_n and_o unity_n and_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n for_o some_o few_o assume_v man_n to_o alter_v the_o establish_v worship_n to_o make_v it_o comply_v with_o their_o own_o private_a conceit_n or_o to_o serve_v their_o own_o private_a end_n 2._o if_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o church_n why_o shall_v any_o thing_n be_v alter_v which_o have_v the_o general_a approbation_n of_o the_o true_a member_n of_o the_o church_n why_o shall_v such_o ceremony_n be_v take_v away_o or_o which_o be_v much_o worse_o leave_v indifferent_a which_o they_o approve_v as_o useful_a to_o the_o external_a decency_n and_o solemnity_n of_o worship_n why_o shall_v such_o prayer_n and_o form_n of_o worship_n be_v alter_v which_o they_o find_v such_o great_a help_n to_o devotion_n that_o they_o desire_v no_o material_a change_n and_o believe_v they_o can_v be_v alter_v for_o the_o better_a by_o any_o mere_a humane_a composition_n 3._o if_o it_o be_v for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o church_n will_v our_o commissioner_n keep_v their_o eye_n upon_o the_o primitive_a pattern_n which_o be_v the_o original_a rule_n of_o our_o reformation_n if_o they_o can_v alter_v our_o worship_n and_o discipline_n into_o a_o near_a and_o more_o exact_a conformity_n to_o the_o ancient_a primitive_a and_o apostolic_a church_n this_o i_o grant_v will_v be_v for_o the_o advantage_n of_o the_o church_n but_o ask_v they_o whether_o it_o will_v be_v for_o the_o advantage_n of_o the_o church_n to_o change_v the_o ancient_a rule_n and_o form_n of_o worship_n for_o some_o new_a modern_a invention_n how_o shall_v we_o 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to_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n without_o destroy_v the_o fundamental_a constitution_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o for_o instance_n can_v any_o alteration_n in_o our_o collect_v and_o prayer_n while_o we_o retain_v a_o form_n satisfy_v those_o who_o declare_v against_o all_o form_n of_o prayer_n as_o a_o quench_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o than_o it_o be_v not_o alter_v the_o liturgy_n but_o take_v it_o away_o that_o must_v satisfy_v dissenter_n and_o not_o to_o multiply_v query_n will_v the_o dissent_v preacher_n who_o have_v be_v ordain_v by_o schismatical_a presbyter_n submit_v to_o episcopal_a ordination_n or_o if_o they_o will_v not_o will_v the_o people_n come_v into_o the_o church_n without_o their_o preacher_n or_o if_o the_o commissioner_n shall_v think_v fit_a to_o admit_v they_o as_o presbyter_n of_o the_o church_n without_o a_o solemn_a ordination_n be_v it_o not_o a_o subversion_n of_o the_o constitution_n not_o only_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o be_v they_o sure_a that_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n will_v own_v such_o presbyter_n 3._o inquire_v you_o whether_o it_o be_v reasonable_a at_o this_o time_n to_o make_v such_o alteration_n in_o our_o worship_n in_o favour_n of_o dissenter_n without_o reasonable_a assurance_n of_o gain_v they_o to_o our_o communion_n and_o whether_o the_o temper_n and_o practice_n of_o our_o dissenter_n at_o this_o time_n give_v any_o such_o assurance_n especial_o if_o the_o story_n of_o northampton_n be_v true_a that_o like_o novatianus_n of_o old_a they_o oblige_v their_o communicant_n to_o vow_n or_o swear_v upon_o the_o sacrament_n that_o they_o will_v never_o return_v to_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o be_v say_v also_o to_o be_v a_o general_a practice_n after_o this_o i_o suppose_v it_o will_v be_v needless_a to_o say_v that_o these_o alteration_n can_v be_v intend_v both_o for_o the_o 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for_o such_o alteration_n as_o these_o when_o the_o a._n b._n the_o metropolitan_a of_o all_o england_n and_o the_o head_n of_o the_o convocation_n and_o several_a other_o bishop_n not_o to_o mention_v those_o of_o the_o inferior_a clergy_n who_o be_v as_o eminent_a for_o a_o prudent_a and_o well_o temper_a zeal_n for_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o for_o their_o constant_a loyalty_n be_v now_o under_o suspension_n will_v not_o some_o be_v apt_a to_o question_v the_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n of_o such_o proceed_n when_o the_o convocation_n be_v without_o its_o proper_a head_n and_o deprive_v of_o the_o advice_n and_o counsel_n of_o so_o many_o principal_a member_n of_o it_o will_v not_o other_o be_v apt_a to_o suspect_v that_o this_o time_n be_v choose_v on_o purpose_n because_o the_o a._n b._n and_o those_o other_o bishop_n be_v now_o suspend_v who_o presence_n and_o authority_n in_o the_o convocation_n they_o be_v afraid_a of_o as_o sure_a and_o fast_o friend_n to_o the_o 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influence_n on_o the_o state._n i_o be_o sir_n you_o finis_fw-la