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A92925 Schism dispach't or A rejoynder to the replies of Dr. Hammond and the Ld of Derry. Sergeant, John, 1622-1707. 1657 (1657) Wing S2590; Thomason E1555_1; ESTC R203538 464,677 720

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but_o the_o present_a office_n of_o apostleship_n which_o the_o apostle_n all_o at_o that_o time_n enjoy_v from_o which_o judas_n fall_v and_o into_o which_o s._n mathias_n succeed_v last_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v of_o he_o whether_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n part_n of_o this_o ministry_n or_o apostleship_n v_o 25._o do_v not_o manifest_o signify_v the_o same_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v here_o v_o 20_o at_o least_o i_o be_o sure_a s._n peter_n tell_v we_o there_o it_o do_v and_o whether_o their_o own_o translation_n do_v not_o render_v this_o to_o be_v a_o office_n psal_n 109._o v._n 8._o let_v another_o take_v his_o office_n judge_n then_o indifferent_a reader_n what_o evidence_n be_v to_o be_v expect_v from_o dr._n h._n who_o be_v first_o and_o ground-evidence_n here_o be_v thus_o manifold_o weak_a magnis_fw-la tamen_fw-la excidit_fw-la ausis_fw-la and_o he_o have_v still_o this_o honour_n which_o he_o esteem_v most_o important_a that_o this_o 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