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A66964 A discourse of the necessity of church-guides, for directing Christians in necessary faith with some annotations on Dr Stillingfleet's answer to N.O. / by R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1675 (1675) Wing W3446; ESTC R38733 248,311 278

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malitiâ_fw-la ib._n l._n 13._o all_o say_v he_o oppose_v infallibility_n in_o it_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o not_o in_o the_o church_n catholic_n which_o or_o wherever_o it_o be_v he_o proceed_v ib._n l._n 15._o what_o reason_n can_v he_o have_v suppose_v that_o he_o be_v to_o submit_v to_o any_o guide_n that_o he_o must_v submit_v only_o to_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n why_o not_o as_o well_o to_o those_o of_o the_o eastern_a greek_n or_o protestant-churche_n person_n and_o church_n be_v to_o submit_v only_o to_o their_o lawful_a canonical_a superior_n person_n or_o council_n and_o so_o be_v to_o avoid_v such_o person_n or_o church_n as_o these_o do_v declare_v heretical_a or_o schismatical_a who_o they_o come_v to_o know_v or_o be_v to_o believe_v to_o be_v so_o from_o such_o declaration_n without_o a_o necessity_n of_o study_v the_o particular_a controversy_n the_o supreme_a court_n of_o which_o superior_n a_o general_n council_n of_o these_o church-guide_n 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no._n they_o be_v the_o universal_a clergy_n person_n and_o synod_n that_o be_v set_v over_o we_o by_o christ_n rank_v in_o a_o due_a subordination_n in_o person_n ascend_v here_o in_o these_o occidental_a church_n to_o the_o patriarch_n of_o the_o west_n in_o synod_n to_o a_o patriarchal_a or_o general_n council_n and_o in_o any_o dissension_n among_o these_o the_o superior_a person_n or_o synod_n be_v our_o true_a guide_n pag._n 179._o l._n 2._o here_o we_o demur_v and_o own_o no_o authority_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v over_o we_o then_o we_o do_v not_o what_o we_o ought_v he_o be_v just_o the_o patriarch_n of_o the_o west_n and_o the_o prime_a patriarch_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o the_o precedent_n in_o general_a council_n ib._n l._n 4._o we_o have_v all_o the_o right_n of_o a_o patriarchal_a church_n i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v of_o a_o primate_n and_o metropolitan_a church_n primat_n have_v sometime_o have_v the_o title_n of_o patriarch_n but_o these_o right_n 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sect_n mention_v before_o in_o note_n on_o p._n 180._o l._n 9_o pag._n 181._o l._n 12._o we_o defend_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o bishop_n to_o be_v the_o most_o ancient_a and_o apostolical_a government_n and_o that_o no_o person_n can_v have_v sufficient_a reason_n to_o cast_v that_o off_o which_o have_v be_v so_o universal_o receive_v in_o all_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n if_o there_o have_v be_v dispute_v among_o we_o about_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o two_o order_n and_o the_o necessity_n of_o it_o in_o order_n to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n such_o there_o have_v be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n too_o here_o if_o by_o defend_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o bishop_n to_o be_v the_o most_o ancient_a and_o apostolical_a government_n he_o mean_v exclusive_o to_o a_o government_n in_o other_o place_n by_o a_o presbytery_n without_o bishop_n its_o be_v as_o ancient_a and_o apostolical_a as_o it_o whenas_o 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