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A36253 Separation of churches from episcopal government, as practised by the present non-conformists, proved schismatical from such principles as are least controverted and do withal most popularly explain the sinfulness and mischief of schism ... by Henry Dodwell ... Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711. 1679 (1679) Wing D1818; ESTC R13106 571,393 694

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