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A43621	Gregory, Father-Greybeard, with his vizard off, or, News from the Cabal in some reflexions upon a late pamphlet entituled, The rehearsal transpros'd (after the fashion that now obtains) in a letter to our old friend, R.L. from E.H.	Hickeringill, Edmund, 1631-1708.	1673 (1673)	Wing H1808; ESTC R7617	145,178	344

variety was not then in fashion he preach'd and so did the Apostles the best that they could and the best that could be and if they had not preach'd the same things over and over over and over again they must have preach'd one time better than another which is not safe to say of our Saviour therefore when his Disciples desire him to teach them to pray he tells them no other but what he had told them in his first Sermon when ye pray s●…y Our Father c. And when he was in his Agony and prayed most earnestly the third time it was short not like the Pharisees nor our modern Pharisees but to the purpose and saying the same words the same words Our Saviour never took a Text but once and then the Sermon he made of it was not so long as the Text. S. Peter converts three thousand with a Sermon Acts 2. And all the whole Sermon was but half a Chapter and yet the longest that ever he made that in the tenth Chapter of the Acts was scarcely half so long I might give many more instances to shew that this way of Sermons that now obtains and is the fashion is not the way of Christ if this was intended for a set-discourse for that purpose but I mention it now only to shew that these Sermons Sermons Lectures Preachings as they that m●…st haunted them and cryed them up have been and still are the greatest villains cheats treacherous deceivers ' under the Cope of Heaven so it does but still evidence the more that it is not the way of Christ brought into the Churuch by two or three talking men some hundred of years after Christ but they shall be nameless it is sufficient to say they could talk well and they lov'd as all good Orators do to hear themselves talk but that this should be any argument that now therefore we must let the weather be never so cold sit it out forsooth till an impertinent idle prating fellow has brought down Moon Stars and Glories to shew us how hard he studied the week before for this Hour-glass-Harangue seems to me very strange that the world should be so still bejugled especially these tedious speeches being at best but smil'd at if not quite laugh'd out of countenance where men speak best viz. in the Parliament House Councils Universities Inns of Court but the Pulpit must be the last that will learn more wit and grace though we pretend these are such Gospel times too and will take our Saviour and the Apostles for a pattern When they can infer any thing with more sence than yet I have heard from Acts 20. 7. S. Paul's continuing his discourse until Midnight the only objection in the Bible against all that I alleadge I will give them an answer if they will tell me how many hours of that night St. Paul and the Disciples did spend in eating and breaking bread v. 11 and raising up Eutychus and also if they will promise me in one thing more to imitate that Holy Apostle namely when they preach an hour two three or till midnight or all night I care not upon condition these Modern Orthodox will also depart from us on the morrow for ever to try how much we shall wet our Handkerchiefs when they tell us we shall see their face no more They would be happy indeed for themselves perhaps I am sure happy for the Kingdom that has been so unhappy already occasion'd chiefly by their sweaty preaching If they have wit enough let them answer this and to purpose too or else down goes Bell and the Dragon but if they answer as insignificantly as they us'd to preach when they cast so many long looks upon the slowly-sliding sands in the hour-glass if not angry shaking it for its sloath then will their answers tyre me as much as ever did their Sermons and that 's enough in all reason and conscience and I shall scorn to honour them by taking notice of such impertinents If St. Peter was alive again and had not gone to school to some of these new Holder-forths how would little Pulpit-man despise him for preaching the same the same and the same Sermon perpetually when he could show him for a need three or four hundred or a thousand Harangues in his Budget A wicked foolish perverse and hypocritical generation we live in when men nay Ministers rather endeavour to seem good Preachers than be good Preachers in imitating Christ and his Apostles and not by idle inventions preferr what is plausible before what is profitable rather pleasing men than God therefore they have their reward and have plung'd themselves into perplexities or into Parson slip-stockins extravagancies chusing rather impertinencies commended for their variety only by an idle loose people given to change than to speak often to the same purpose over and over again though never so necessary profitable and to good purpose Nor will the Clergy ever free themselves and their Sermons from contempt till they follow the Copy and Pattern for preaching set them by Christ and his holy Apostles and if Priest and people find really and truly that these Hour-glass discourses are as uneasie and troublesome as unprofitable to both let them learn of their Masters Christ and the Apostles and the Primitive Fathers who in their preachings went to question 's and answers that is catechizing or ecchoing answers to questions our blessed Saviours usual way of preaching to which Catechizer as the right Gospel Preacher St. Paul charge the Galathians 6. 6. to allow him all good maintenance or a good Living 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Let him that is catechized in the word communicate to him that catechizeth in all good things and not let him that is taught in the Word For the words of St. Paul ought to be and are now properly translated Let him that is catechized communicate to him that catechizeth For though all catechizing is teaching yet all teaching Modern Orthodox Pulpit-harangue teaching for Example is not catechizing which was the usual way of teaching practised by our Saviour the Apostles and Primitive Christians and in England too till this superstitious hypocritical Modern Orthodoxy intruded and impudently thrust its betters out of Church and put it out of countenance with a brazen forehead Didymus Optatus was called the Catechist or Catechizer 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Doctor audientium Cyp. ep 24. in the Church of Carthage Cyril the great was not ashamed of that name at Jerusalem nor Hierocles at Alexandria and many more of the most famous men of the World as well as England thought it no disparagement to Catechize though I can give good reasons that usually as in many places of Christendom at this day any man may propound a question to the Minister and desire to be resolv'd and therefore should the man of God be able and throughly furnished unto every good work and word to give a pertinent and ready answer to such as hearing him ask'd him

this bait 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 nothing but a few canting new-coyn'd words and with these they have made shift to get the good old Coyn out of their Pockets and sometimes Plate Bodkins Thimbles Horses Armes and Silver-spoons or whatsoever comes is welcome All is fish that comes to net whilst these Hugh Peters Baxters Marshals and Owens laugh in their sleeves to see how soon the fools and their moneys are parted and how parted do they not know of the going on 't and how it is laid out what they get for it Yes they tell the poor souls they get Christ for it Oh get Christ whenas indeed they get nothing but a little canting new-coyn'd Fanatick phrase or so there 's all Be not offended that I call this expression get Christ get Christ meer canting jugling and delusion beguiling unstable soules for I will give you a reason for it unanswerable by all the Canters and Cabala of Juglers in England with whom and the best of them or all their great heads put together I am not afraid to encounter in vindication of all and every thing in this Letter occasion'd by the bold undertaking of their friend Gregory Graybeard who puts for Apochrypha and so sets it down in a different Character the great Truth that Christ our Lord ever deliver'd to the world viz. To do as we would be done by which is the great end of the Law and the Gospel namely the best regulation of our manners or as p. 100. Moral vertue being the most material and useful part of all religion which has but two parts Phanaticism and Morality Which last is comprehended in that great way of Truth so much evil spoken of by some Christians as being the practice even of some heathens and therefore not the summ of Law and Prophets But let me live and die like such Heathens rather than live and die like such Christians as dare preferre any thing above this or any part of Religion above this which my Saviour has told me is the summe of all And he that believes Christ in this word as a true Prophet and conforms his life and conversation to this Law as given by his King Jesus shall assuredly find him a Priest to pardon and forgive him and bring him to glory where he now sits And this is that which in the beginning I call'd my Religion not but that many others are of it yet but few where I live For I dwell in New-Amsterdam where Satans seat is the Head-quarters of the Legions and the Randevouz of Hell the very Sink of all heresies and sects and the Kennel where all the neighbouring fil●…h of Religion disgorges its self and disembogues And as we never read of any Pharisee converted by our Saviour except one or two yet very many Publicans and Harlots so here we find true that of our Saviour that Publicans and Harlots shall get into the Kingdom of Heaven before these our modern Pharisees in English Separates or Schismaticks as the word signifies And the great Reason why this great Rule and summe of Christs Message or Gospel was no more believ'd by the Pharisees than now by our modern Pharisees or Schismaticks called now modern Orthodox is because the heart of this people is waxed fat and their cars are dull of hearing and s●…eng they see and not perceive and hearing they hear and not understand They say they believe Gospel show them Mat. 7. 12. and ask them if they believe that that Rule before their eyes is the summe of all and they 'l rail presently at you and cry out good works good works the man presses us to good works and merit Popery Arminianism and Manwaring They say they believe St. Paul's Epistles to be God's word shew them 1 Cor. 13. 1 2 3. and the rest of the Chapter and ask them do you believe that your Preacher you so cry up for a precious man when he tells you of incomes and experiences and getting of Christ is a meer empty Kettle a meer canting jugling noise a meer feign'd new-coyn'd sound if he does not preach up good works and charity to you all contain'd and included in doing as you would be done by They will presently fly out in rage and wrath against you saying you rail at Gods Ministers God ways and Gods people and look upon all you say as prophane and coming from a prophane and loose spirit Though with never so much meekness you entreat them to take heed how in so saying they blaspheme God and his holy spirit who says altogether so much as I have said in that first vers Though I speak with the Tongue of men and Angels and have not charity I am become as sounding brass or a tinkling Cimbal that is a meer empty Kettle sound and noise yet they see this with their eyes and yet will blaspheme and will not believe Tell them further that this precious Preacher does not yet speak with the tongue of an angel let his whinings and snivellings and gruntings and groanings be never so tuneable they will not believe you but when for the good of their immortal souls you bid them beware of the juggle and take heed they be not cheated with new-coyn'd and feigned words meer Canting as Gypsies that have a peculiar dialect and phrase of their own Yet then they will revile you rendring you hatred for your good will slandering you in blaspheming Christ and the truth you declare to them and think all this while they are lying standering and railing you which is far from Charity that they do God good service and vindicate precious men Ask them further whether those be not ●…eigned fictitious new-coyn'd words as the Apostle St. Peter says false prophets make merchandize or make good markets with through covetousness which the Holy-ghost in Holy Scripture uses not and which Gods Holy word is not acquainted with and they will confess that they must be new-coyned and feigned by false prophets and juglers if not coyn'd there by the Holy-ghost But then say these expressions viz. incomes get experiences look over your experiences get Christ and the indwellings of the spirit such like many hundreds of them produc'd with a wonderful long whine and twang are neither the words of the Holy Ghost Prophets Christ or his Apostles and therefore are feigned words which these spiritual merchants get money with as Gypsies do by Cantting and Singing And they will blaspheme and rail at you though you say no more than St. Peter has done and though they cannot find one such new-coyn'd word in all the Bible Is not the heart of this people hardned and seeing they do not see they will not see nor perceive but like the Pharisees look upon all your reproof to be a reproach to them and the ways of God They cannot be converted because not convinced they are not convinced partly by reason their Preachers are not faithful to their souls but instead of shewing them the

my Cassock and Girdle but let him and all the Virtuosos in England laugh how they will whether with open mouth or in their sleeves they can never be able to laugh me out of my Coat Indeed I am none of these merry Greeks I can neither pergraecari nor laugh now I 'm not in the humour they only can best laugh that win But I must be serious and mind the great business in hand to see when it will come to my turn to wait upon Father-grey beard as one of the Clergy to make him laugh Let 's count Every day How many days is there in a year Ask poor Robin According to the Julian account 365 days Fanatick Calender 366 days for there is a mystery in 66. Well then 366 days in a year and above 1●…000 Parishes in England of which I have but just four Parishes neither more nor less How long then will it be before my turn comes for one or other of these four Parishes to make sport for Greg. and make him laugh who is not one day without the company of one or other Chaplain new as the day to say grace for him and make him laugh At a venture I 'l say it will not come to my turn to tickle and trinkle him till he laugh again above once a year and to the most of the Clergy who have but one Parish once in four years Now what great Marvail is all this in reproach to the Clergy that every one or other of them some once a year and some of them of the most wary and poorer sort that have but one Living and that scarcely a Living neither once in four pears does or saith or at least some accident befals him or them that a merry man and full of spleen sure he means a Phanatick cannot hold from laughing Nay if there were a whole thousand of Clergy-men so ridiculous that once in a year or at least once in four years did do such a ridiculous action or else spoke such a ridiculous word or at least some gave him a twitch by the Girdle or some other sad accident befel him that might make a Gentleman laugh Why are all the rest of the eleven thousand Clergy-men thereby any more blemish'd and made contemptible than were the eleven Apostles for one Judas Or than all All the Lords Parliament-men Gentlemen and Tradesmen because a certain Lord he shall be nameless and a certain Parliament-man I name none or a certain Gentleman and also fourthly and lastly a certain Citizen that either did or said or else some accident befel him or them or at least befel the wife of him or one of them so ludicrously and ridiculously that a man merrily dispos'd could not but laugh as if he had seen a pair of Horns upon the head of him or them or one of them a sad accident or that a certain Lord Parliament-man Gentleman I forgot to say the Knight or Citizen with his Perywig off either pluck'd off or struck off or box'd off or fourthly and lastly by some other sad accident fallen off Now what a blot in the Scutcheon would this be to all the Lords Parliament men Gentlemen and Citizens in England if Greg. was their Adversary or should come to be Garter King at Arms Oh! yes a very great blot and blurr to Honour and Reputation of which the Gentlemen of England are so tender that 't is two to one if Greg. had not ten thousand Gloves sent him all left-handed if he had dared thus to confront persons of Quality and men of Honour But to put the affront upon the Clergy great and small poor and rich long short Gowns Lawn Sleeves or no Sleeves Cassocks silk or Cassocks thread-bare from the Ordinary to the Rector Vicar or poor Curate from the silk Girdle with four Livings to the worsted Girdle with poor one Living 't is all one to Greg. He dares all slights all jears all nay huffs and struts stands a tip-toe and looks big shakes his Perywig and stamps scolds rails swells frets and rages like a profess'd Hec. at all of them as a pack of puny Gown-men a Pen and Ink-horn-crew a sort of spiritless and cowhearted milk-sops dastards and white-livers and dare not send a Gentleman the length of their sword Excepting this there 's nothing tends to the contempt of the Clergy in his whole relation and invectives any more than what changing the name may with as much ease and unavoidably make a thrust at Reputation of Lord Parliament man Gentleman or Citizen Some one or other of the Clergy nay a thousand of them may be black and yet both the Church-men and the Church continue comely I wish indeed with all my heart that all the whole company of Divines in England were a Divine company I wish that the Clergy and all other men of what quality soever were without spot or wrinkle or any such thing that might tempt either a light heart to laugh or a good heart to weep But though I so pray I have no cause to believe it will be so or any great ground for hope that it ever shall be so whilst we are mortal although Modern Orthodoxy and Hugh Peter should be rediviv'd The Modern Orthodox Oh! there 's your man Iste regit dictis animos Nec longè scilicet Hostes Quaerendi nobis circumstant undique muros These are the men that can make Candida de nigris de candentibus atra I 'l fit you for ends of verse and I 'l use them as I list and when I list for all you Father-gray-beard Greg. tells us not of one Daw-Divine amongst the Modern Orthodox no he says that if he can do them no good he is resolv'd he will do them no harm nor tells us of one Buffoon or mad Priest amongst them not one Cock-wit Hugh Peters J. O. Smec or Cock-Divine c. Thus Asinus scalpat asinum The treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously yea the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously But though there be not one of the Modern Orthodox that pretend to fear God who does truly honour the King Yet I wish if wishes would do that there were not one of the old Orthodox Divines who truly honour the King but would also truly fear God Turpe est Doctori cùm culpa redarguit ipsum Which I english thus Great Doctors sins when Doctors fall Just like their Robes are scarlet All. Not but that I think that evil Ministers if men of Parts may possibly minister some good a crackt Bell may serve to ring others to Church though it self must be cast into the fire or like Noahs Carpenters who made a shift to build an Ark of Salvation for Noah and his Family though themselves were drown'd A dull whet-stone may serve to set an edge upon a knife and the life-less Sun does yet enliven other Creatures and in this sence denies the old Axiome Nil dat quod non habet speaking like the Magick-head of Brass with