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A30974 Discourse of the peerage & jurisdiction of the Lords spirituall in Parliament proving from the fundamental laws of the land, the testimony of the most renowned authors, and the practice of all ages : that have no right in claiming any jurisdiction in capital matters. Barlow, Thomas, 1607-1691. 1679 (1679) Wing B829; ESTC R4830 45,447 34

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of_o a_o instrument_n under_o their_o hand_n and_o seal_n will_v further_o appear_v to_o be_v a_o breach_n of_o the_o canon_n if_o you_o consider_v the_o letter_n of_o the_o canon_n make_v anno_fw-la 1222._o in_o the_o reign_n of_o h._n 3._o which_o you_o may_v find_v among_o the_o constitutiones_fw-la archiepiscopi_fw-la stephani_fw-la in_o linwood_n f._n 146._o authoritate_fw-la quoque_fw-la concilii_fw-la districtius_fw-la inhibemus_fw-la ne_fw-la quis_fw-la clericus_fw-la beneficiatus_fw-la aut_fw-la in_o sacris_fw-la ordinibus_fw-la constitutus_fw-la litteras_fw-la pro_fw-la poena_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la infligenda_fw-la scribere_fw-la vel_fw-la dictare_fw-la presumant_fw-la vel_fw-la ubi_fw-la judicium_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la tractatur_fw-la vel_fw-la exercetur_fw-la intersit_fw-la from_o this_o canon_n i_o conclude_v that_o clergyman_n ought_v neither_o to_o be_v present_a themselves_o nor_o depute_v other_o per_fw-la litteras_fw-la to_o be_v present_a pro_fw-la poena_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la infligenda_fw-la we_o have_v likewise_o a_o very_a pertinent_a observation_n upon_o this_o matter_n in_o a_o ancient_a ms._n chronicl_n in_o libro_fw-la mailrosso_fw-it which_o have_v write_v very_o large_o of_o this_o parliament_n that_o be_v hold_v 21_o r._n 2._o wherein_o the_o prelate_n be_v blame_v for_o that_o opinion_n which_o they_o give_v general_o about_o the_o revocation_n of_o pardon_n because_o the_o consequence_n thereof_o be_v the_o death_n of_o those_o who_o pardon_n be_v revoke_v dederunt_fw-la ergo_fw-la locum_fw-la say_v the_o book_n prelati_fw-la judicio_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la facto_fw-la ita_fw-la quod_fw-la debitatur_fw-la a_o pluribus_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la incurrerent_fw-la irregularitatem_fw-la pro_fw-la negotio_fw-la memorato_fw-la unde_fw-la contigit_fw-la quod_fw-la propter_fw-la istud_fw-la minus_fw-la peccatum_fw-la inciderent_fw-la in_o aliud_fw-la majus_n peccatum_fw-la consequenter_fw-la ut_fw-la laicam_fw-la personam_fw-la constituerint_fw-la procuratorem_fw-la pro_fw-la eisdem_fw-la qui_fw-la illorum_fw-la vice_fw-la consentiret_fw-la adjudicium_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la dandum_fw-la in_o dicto_fw-la parliamento_fw-la si_fw-la necess●_n foret_fw-la &_o occasio_fw-la emersisset_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o that_o upon_o the_o whole_a matter_n it_o be_v irrational_a to_o think_v that_o their_o departure_n from_o the_o house_n ever_o before_o this_o be_v mere_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o canon_n when_o we_o see_v that_o the_o first_o offer_n of_o the_o king_n and_o parliament_n to_o admit_v they_o to_o the_o exercise_n of_o jurisdiction_n for_o that_o time_n be_v by_o they_o kind_o accept_v with_o a_o non_fw-la obstante_fw-la to_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v true_a the_o give_a judgement_n of_o death_n by_o proxy_n be_v as_o great_a a_o violation_n of_o the_o law_n of_o england_n as_o of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o inasmuch_o as_o consensus_fw-la tollit_fw-la errorem_fw-la it_o be_v for_o that_o time_n well_o enough_o 2._o this_o be_v further_a illustrate_v if_o you_o observe_v that_o in_o those_o case_n to_o which_o the_o prohibition_n of_o the_o law_n do_v not_o extend_v they_o make_v no_o scruple_n of_o sit_v and_o vote_v although_o their_o vote_v in_o those_o case_n be_v against_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n this_o may_v be_v instance_a in_o the_o case_n of_o bill_n of_o attainder_n for_o although_o the_o canon_n do_v prohibit_v they_o from_o vote_v in_o such_o case_n as_o much_o as_o any_o case_n whatsoever_o inasmuch_o as_o in_o pass_v the_o bill_n they_o vote_n that_o the_o person_n be_v guilty_a and_o shall_v stand_v actual_o attaint_v of_o high_a treason_n and_o shall_v be_v deem_v and_o adjudge_v a_o traitor_n and_o shall_v suffer_v as_o in_o case_n of_o high_a treason_n etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o do_v general_o vote_n because_o that_o the_o prohibition_n of_o the_o law_n do_v not_o extend_v to_o vote_v in_o bill_n of_o 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the_o weakness_n of_o their_o objection_n may_v further_o appear_v i_o answer_v three_o although_o we_o shall_v admit_v that_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n be_v the_o first_o occasion_n of_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o custom_n among_o we_o and_o that_o those_o history_n and_o chronicle_n which_o inform_v we_o after_o this_o manner_n do_v say_v true_a yet_o this_o be_v no_o argument_n against_o the_o validity_n of_o a_o stand_a custom_n the_o commencemant_n of_o which_o be_v not_o upon_o record_n for_o history_n and_o chronicle_n be_v not_o matter_n of_o record_n neither_o be_v they_o in_o law_n such_o strong_a and_o undeniable_a proof_n of_o the_o begin_n of_o any_o usage_n as_o to_o make_v it_o no_o custom_n neither_o be_v the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n matter_n of_o record_n and_o therefore_o can_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o custom_n before_o the_o make_n of_o those_o canon_n see_v then_o it_o be_v without_o doubt_n that_o there_o be_v a_o custom_n that_o the_o 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these_o canon_n be_v here_o allow_v and_o observe_v yet_o that_o observation_n be_v not_o out_o of_o respect_n to_o the_o canon_n as_o such_o but_o as_o they_o do_v command_v such_o thing_n as_o be_v judge_v rational_a and_o it_o have_v be_v the_o same_o case_n if_o the_o custom_n have_v begin_v in_o england_n in_o imitation_n of_o other_o country_n as_o it_o be_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o the_o canon_n for_o though_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n claim_v a_o universal_a and_o absolute_a power_n of_o legislation_n in_o ordine_fw-la ad_fw-la spiritualia_fw-la over_o all_o christendom_n take_v advantage_n of_o every_o opportunity_n that_o offer_v itself_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o this_o right_n which_o they_o pretend_v be_v jure_v divino_fw-la and_o in_o right_a of_o their_o vicarship_n due_a yet_o know_v that_o prince_n will_v not_o so_o easy_o part_v with_o the_o jewel_n of_o their_o crown_n in_o suffer_v their_o people_n to_o be_v in_o subjection_n to_o the_o law_n and_o 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see_v matthew_n paris_n 403._o to_o these_o decretal_n obedience_n be_v require_v from_o prince_n and_o people_n and_o all_o contumacious_a and_o obstinate_a delinquent_n be_v most_o severe_o anathematise_v the_o decretal_n be_v such_o as_o these_o that_o any_o clergyman_n that_o be_v grieve_v by_o a_o judgement_n or_o sentence_n in_o the_o court-christian_a or_o any_o other_o court_n ecclesiastical_a within_o this_o realm_n may_v be_v relieve_v by_o a_o appeal_n from_o rome_n that_o no_o layman_n shall_v have_v the_o disposition_n of_o any_o ecclesiastical_a preferment_n nor_o the_o presentation_n to_o a_o church_n that_o he_o shall_v not_o marry_v within_o such_o and_o such_o degree_n that_o child_n bear_v before_o espousal_n be_v legitimate_a that_o the_o clergy_n shall_v be_v absolute_o exempt_v from_o secular_a power_n etc._n etc._n yet_o these_o decretal_n meet_v with_o very_o little_a respect_n in_o england_n france_n or_o any_o other_o part_n of_o christendom_n except_o peter_n patrimony_n in_o demesne_n the_o pope_n own_o territory_n call_v by_o the_o canonist_n patria_fw-la obedientiae_fw-la for_o in_o england_n to_o wave_v any_o discourse_n of_o the_o law_n and_o custom_n of_o other_o country_n in_o stead_n of_o be_v receive_v and_o observe_v according_a to_o expectation_n they_o be_v stout_o oppose_v by_o the_o judge_n and_o magistrate_n as_o derogate_a from_o the_o sovereignty_n and_o prerogative_n of_o the_o king_n and_o tend_v to_o the_o detriment_n of_o the_o right_n and_o property_n of_o his_o subject_n and_o in_o confirmation_n of_o this_o several_a act_n of_o parliament_n be_v make_v to_o curb_v the_o insolence_n of_o those_o usurp_a pope_n and_o to_o punish_v the_o audacious_a enterprise_n of_o those_o factious_a and_o disloyal_a subject_n who_o do_v presume_v to_o attempt_v to_o control_v the_o judgement_n that_o be_v give_v in_o the_o king_n court_n by_o process_n from_o the_o pope_n or_o to_o procure_v provision_n and_o reservation_n of_o benefice_n by_o bull_n or_o breve_n from_o rome_n see_v 27_o e._n 3._o c._n 1._o 48_o e._n 3._o c._n 1._o 25_o e._n 3._o c._n 22._o 16_o r._n 2._o c._n 5._o whereby_o such_o suer_n of_o appeal_n and_o procurer_n of_o bull_n and_o process_n from_o rome_n for_o the_o purpose_n aforesaid_a be_v make_v liable_a to_o the_o penalty_n of_o a_o praemunire_n whereby_o the_o body_n of_o the_o offender_n be_v to_o be_v imprison_v during_o the_o king_n pleasure_n his_o good_n forfeit_v and_o his_o land_n seize_v into_o the_o king_n hand_n so_o long_o as_o the_o offender_n live_v how_o far_o the_o benefit_n of_o clergy_n be_v allow_v i_o have_v already_o show_v and_o as_o for_o the_o matter_n of_o legitimation_n you_o may_v see_v the_o statute_n of_o merton_n c._n 9_o et_fw-la rogaverunt_fw-la omnes_fw-la episcopi_fw-la magnates_fw-la ut_fw-la consentirent_fw-la quod_fw-la nati_fw-la ante_fw-la matrimonium_fw-la essent_fw-la legitimi_fw-la sicut_fw-la illi_fw-la qui_fw-la nati_fw-la sunt_fw-la 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