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A90063 Irenicum; or, An essay towards a brotherly peace & union, between those of the congregational and presbyterian way; shewing out of the most learned and renowned divines of the congregational way, that their positions concerning 1. Church matters and members. 2. Church constitution and form. 3. Church state. 4. Church officers and ordination. 5. Church government and censures. 6. Church combinations and synods. 7. Communion with and separation from churches. are sufficient for the establishing a firme and lasting peace between them and the Presbyterians ... In pursuance of the good design begun at the Savoy, where it was agreed, and declared, that such reforming churches as consist of persons sound in the faith, and of conversation becoming the Gospel, ought not to refuse the communion of each other ... Drawn up and published by Discipulus de Tempore Junior. Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; D. T. 1659 (1659) Wing N910; Thomason E978_1; ESTC R202985 58,516 89

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give_v in_o wisdom_n and_o compassion_n to_o his_o church_n quest_n 1_o 2._o 3._o therefore_o how_o those_o church_n can_v be_v say_v to_o come_v near_o the_o rule_n and_o walk_v close_a to_o the_o rule_n who_o either_o have_v no_o officer_n at_o all_o as_o the_o church_n of_o h._n and_o the_o church_n of_o n._n or_o else_o content_a themselves_o with_o one_o officer_n a_o pastor_n have_v neither_o teacher_n ruler_n nor_o deacon_n as_o most_o of_o the_o gather_a church_n in_o england_n be_v this_o to_o walk_v according_a to_o rule_v be_v not_o this_o either_o to_o slight_v the_o compassion_n of_o christ_n in_o give_v these_o officer_n or_o to_o contradict_v the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n and_o proclaim_v those_o office_n needless_a and_o useless_a which_o christ_n judge_v needful_a and_o useful_a and_o therefore_o appoint_v in_o his_o church_n 5._o ordination_n be_v a_o fundamental_a in_o church_n discipline_n and_o give_v the_o officer_n right_a in_o his_o office_n jus_o in_o re_fw-mi see_v quest_n 9_o 10._o therefore_o ordination_n be_v more_o than_o election_n which_o only_o give_v jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la and_o quaere_fw-la how_o many_o minister_n of_o our_o gather_a church_n can_v have_v a_o full_a right_n and_o authority_n to_o administer_v all_o ordinance_n have_v only_a election_n of_o the_o people_n which_o give_v but_o jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la and_o not_o ordination_n which_o give_v jus_o in_o re_fw-mi 6._o ordination_n be_v a_o act_n of_o rule_n and_o pertain_v to_o the_o presbytersy_n or_o presbytery_n que._n 11._o therefore_o not_o to_o the_o fraternity_n or_o body_n of_o the_o people_n 7._o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v dispense_v in_o public_a quest_n 1●_n therefore_o why_o do_v many_o of_o the_o churchway_n so_o frequent_o baptize_v child_n in_o private_a 8._o the_o sacrament_n be_v badge_n to_o show_v our_o separation_n from_o all_o profane_a society_n and_o to_o signify_v our_o communion_n one_o with_o another_o in_o the_o profession_n and_o confession_n of_o the_o faith_n as_o our_o spiritual_a union_n and_o communion_n with_o christ_n our_o head_n mystical_o see_v qu●st_n 13._o answ_n therefore_o the_o sacrament_n be_v note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n as_o the_o protestant_a writer_n have_v always_o maintain_v against_o the_o papist_n 9_o a_o person_n have_v his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n because_o he_o have_v a_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o which_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n quest_n 14._o therefore_o the_o church_n covenant_n as_o they_o call_v it_o give_v not_o a_o man_n his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n for_o that_o be_v not_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n nor_o be_v the_o sacrament_n a_o seal_n of_o that_o 10._o for_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o the_o party_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n not_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a quest_n 14._o therefore_o whether_o the_o congregation_n be_v constitute_v after_o this_o or_o that_o form_n by_o express_a covenant_n or_o not_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o independent_a congregation_n or_o a_o classical_a congregation_n it_o be_v all_o one_o if_o a_o man_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n he_o come_v in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n 11._o it_o be_v requisite_a that_o those_o who_o be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v their_o member-ship_n in_o their_o infancy_n shall_v come_v to_o their_o trial_n and_o examination_n before_o they_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o supper_n and_o this_o examination_n may_v be_v make_v by_o the_o elder_n yea_o in_o some_o case_n it_o be_v necessary_a it_o shall_v be_v so_o and_o for_o all_o woman_n it_o be_v most_o warrantable_a and_o most_o without_o exception_n therefore_o such_o examination_n in_o presbyterian_a church_n be_v not_o sinful_a and_o unlawful_a nor_o deserve_v so_o much_o ignominy_n and_o scorn_n as_o some_o have_v cast_v upon_o it_o 12._o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n not_o only_o of_o our_o communion_n with_o christ_n and_o with_o the_o member_n of_o our_o own_o church_n but_o with_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n see_v quest_n 16._o therefore_o they_o who_o will_v partake_v with_o none_o but_o the_o member_n of_o their_o own_o church_n or_o a_o church_n of_o the_o like_a constitution_n nor_o suffer_v their_o member_n to_o partake_v in_o none_o but_o their_o own_o church_n be_v guilty_a of_o the_o great_a breach_n of_o christian_a love_n that_o can_v be_v unsaint_v and_o unchurch_v all_o the_o church_n that_o christ_n have_v upon_o the_o earth_n but_o themselves_o and_o with_o a_o kind_n of_o papal_a pride_n judge_v and_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o be_v excommunicate_v all_o other_o church_n contrary_a to_o their_o own_o principle_n that_o say_v no_o one_o church_n have_v power_n over_o another_o 13._o the_o wickedness_n of_o a_o minister_n do_v no_o way_n make_v void_a the_o act_n of_o his_o ministry_n nor_o give_v the_o people_n a_o dispensation_n to_o contemn_v it_o see_v quest_n 18._o 14._o the_o roll_a elder_n office_n be_v so_o clear_o and_o full_o ground_v in_o scripture_n as_o none_o can_v controvert_v it_o but_o he_o who_o spirit_n and_o apprehension_n be_v prepossess_v and_o forestall_v with_o prejudice_n quest_n 21.22_o 15._o the_o power_n and_o work_v of_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v very_o great_a and_o his_o office_n very_o needful_a in_o the_o church_n quest_n 23_o 24._o therefore_o they_o that_o will_v have_v none_o of_o these_o roll_a elder_n over_o they_o but_o leave_v all_o to_o themselves_o and_o their_o liberty_n and_o by_o this_o mean_n be_v not_o only_o single_a member_n or_o officer_n but_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o elder_n and_o all_o this_o generation_n of_o man_n cast_v off_o the_o lord_n government_n be_v son_n of_o korah_n who_o condemnation_n sleep_v not_o etc._n etc._n quest_n 24._o answ_n 1._o quaere_fw-la whether_o some_o other_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o this_o as_o well_o as_o anabaptist_n familist_n etc._n etc._n 16._o if_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v confine_v within_o his_o compass_n the_o wing_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o bishop_n will_v be_v clip_v and_o their_o power_n exceed_o impeach_v quest_n 25._o therefore_o there_o be_v neither_o truth_n or_o modesty_n in_o they_o that_o say_v the_o presbyterian_a government_n which_o be_v manage_v by_o roll_a elder_n as_o well_o as_o the_o congregational_a be_v as_o tyrannical_a as_o prelacy_n and_o as_o antichristian_a as_o popery_n 17._o it_o be_v the_o devil_n subtlety_n to_o disgrace_n divide_v pull_v down_o the_o roll_a elder_n quest_n 23._o let_v they_o therefore_o consider_v who_o work_n they_o do_v and_o what_o reward_n without_o repentance_n they_o be_v like_a to_o have_v who_o drive_v such_o a_o design_n 18._o deacon_n be_v officer_n institute_v by_o christ_n and_o needful_a to_o be_v continue_v in_o the_o church_n quest_n 26._o 19_o the_o maintenance_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o act_n of_o justice_n not_o mercy_n debt_n not_o alm_n quest_n 28._o 20._o officer_n and_o ordinance_n be_v bestow_v upon_o the_o visible_a church_n not_o for_o their_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a that_o be_v among_o they_o who_o good_a next_o under_o his_o own_o glory_n christ_n principal_o intend_v quest_n 29._o therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o first_o in_o christ_n intention_n therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n especial_o the_o church_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n as_o such_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o boast_v herself_o in_o her_o privilege_n as_o the_o spouse_n and_o lacie_n and_o queen_n of_o christ_n see_v these_o and_o all_o other_o privilege_n be_v give_v she_o not_o for_o her_o own_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a chap._n v._o of_o church_n government_n and_o censure_n question_v 1_o who_o be_v the_o seat_n or_o subject_n of_o church_n rule_n or_o government_n answ_n church_n government_n or_o rule_n be_v place_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n who_o therefore_o be_v call_v ruler_n the_o holy_a ghost_n frequent_o yea_o always_o when_o he_o mention_v church_n rule_n and_o church_n government_n ascribe_v it_o to_o elder_n whereas_o the_o work_n and_o duty_n of_o people_n be_v express_v in_o the_o phrase_n of_o obey_v their_o elder_n and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o they_o in_o the_o lord_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 10._o sect._n 7._o quest_n 2._o how_o be_v church_n government_n to_o be_v consider_v answ_n church_n government_n be_v to_o be_v attend_v either_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o essential_o or_o circumstantial_o of_o it_o mr._n hooker_n part_n 1._o page_n 3._o line_n 18._o quest_n 3._o what_o be_v the_o essential_o of_o church_n government_n answ_n the_o essential_o require_v to_o the_o complete_n of_o church_n government_n be_v partly_o
church_n hear_v their_o minister_n as_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o hold_v communion_n with_o they_o in_o their_o church_n answ_n we_o may_v hold_v and_o retain_v communion_n with_o they_o in_o baptise_v our_o child_n as_o occasion_n may_v fall_v out_o by_o absence_n of_o our_o minister_n in_o their_o church_n 23._o apologetical_a narration_n they_o say_v but_o do_v not_o mat._n 23._o and_o by_o occasional_a receive_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n in_o their_o church_n and_o receive_v such_o member_n of_o they_o as_o be_v due_o qualify_v unto_o communion_n with_o we_o occasional_o also_o our_o minister_n to_o preach_v in_o their_o congregation_n and_o receive_v they_o also_o to_o preach_v in_o we_o as_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n paper_n give_v to_o the_o committee_n of_o accommodation_n by_o thomas_n goodwin_n philip_n nye_n william_n bridge_n sydrach_n simson_n jerom._n burrough_n pag._n 29._o line_n 17._o quest_n 9_o what_o shall_v we_o judge_v then_o of_o the_o separatist_n or_o brownist_n be_v they_o of_o antichrist_n answ_n sure_o their_o practice_n be_v blame_v worthy_a 1._o because_o they_o separate_v where_o christ_n keep_v fellowship_n rev._n 1.18_o and_o that_o he_o walk_v with_o we_o we_o argue_v cotton_n mr._n cotton_n because_o he_o be_v still_o please_v to_o dispense_v to_o we_o the_o word_n of_o life_n and_o edify_v many_o soul_n thereby_o and_o therefore_o sure_o christ_n have_v fellowship_n with_o we_o and_o shall_v man_n be_v more_o pure_a than_o his_o maker_n where_o christ_n vouchsafe_v fellowship_n shall_v man_n renounce_v it_o if_o they_o be_v convert_v where_o have_v they_o their_o conversion_n 2._o have_v not_o many_o of_o god_n servant_n heretofore_o keep_v company_n with_o church_n as_o corrupt_v as_o we_o be_v do_v not_o peter_n and_o john_n keep_v company_n with_o their_o person_n and_o shall_v they_o be_v more_o pure_a and_o curious_a 3._o christ_n command_v if_o thy_o brother_n offend_v thou_o admonish_v he_o mat._n 18.17_o etc._n etc._n then_o tell_v it_o to_o the_o church_n and_o if_o he_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v unto_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a or_o a_o publican_n he_o do_v not_o say_v let_v the_o church_n be_v unto_o the_o as_o a_o heathen_a or_o a_o publican_n if_o the_o church_n hear_v not_o thy_o complaint_n now_o there_o be_v many_o of_o our_o separatist_n never_o admonish_v their_o brethren_n nor_o make_v their_o complaint_n to_o the_o church_n and_o if_o they_o do_v and_o the_o church_n hear_v they_o not_o must_v they_o therefore_o excommunicate_v the_o church_n and_o renounce_v it_o therefore_o unless_o you_o find_v in_o it_o blasphemy_n or_o idolatry_n or_o persecution_n there_o be_v no_o just_a ground_n of_o separation_n mr._n cotton_v exposition_n of_o the_o first_o epistle_n of_o john_n fol._n 156._o l._n 38._o object_n i._o they_o say_v our_o worship_n be_v corrupt_a answ_n suppose_v there_o be_v and_o be_v sundry_a abuse_n in_o the_o church_n cotton_n mr._n cotton_n yet_o that_o be_v no_o safe_a ground_n of_o separation_n ezek._n 5.11_o ezek._n 9.4_o so_o when_o the_o son_n of_o eli_n corrupt_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o god_n their_o sin_n be_v great_a yet_o it_o be_v the_o sin_n of_o the_o people_n to_o separate_v and_o abhor_v 1_o sam._n 2.17_o mr._n cotton_v exposition_n of_o the_o first_o epistle_n of_o john_n fol._n 157._o line_n 10._o object_n 2_o they_o say_v our_o government_n be_v antichristian_a answ_n we_o say_v it_o be_v that_o government_n that_o expel_v antichrist_n and_o sundry_a have_v witness_v it_o with_o their_o blood_n and_o i_o say_v further_o that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o corruption_n in_o our_o state_n as_o be_v in_o jerusalem_n when_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n keep_v fellowship_n with_o they_o as_o two_o high_a priest_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n line_n 13._o obj._n 3_o they_o say_v our_o ministry_n and_o call_v be_v antichristian_a answ_n we_o say_v we_o do_v not_o profess_v ourselves_o enemy_n to_o christ_n cotton_n mr._n cotton_n and_o for_o our_o call_v many_o of_o we_o be_v elect_v by_o the_o people_n approbation_n or_o by_o such_o as_o be_v set_v up_o by_o the_o king_n or_o state_n and_o if_o god_n bless_v our_o ministry_n to_o convert_v thousand_o to_o god_n it_o be_v a_o evident_a sign_n god_n approve_v our_o call_v for_o if_o it_o be_v antichristian_a they_o will_v not_o convert_v soul_n unto_o god_n ibid._n line_n 18._o object_n 4._o they_o say_v our_o people_n be_v corrupt_a and_o some_o such_o as_o paul_n bid_v not_o to_o have_v communion_n with_o 1_o cor._n 5.11_o as_o drunkard_n whoremonger_n and_o the_o like_a answ_n we_o can_v deny_v but_o that_o there_o be_v very_o many_o corrupt_a and_o scandalous_a person_n in_o our_o church_n but_o cotton_n mr._n cotton_n 1._o private_a christian_n have_v no_o authority_n to_o put_v they_o out_o 2._o for_o minister_n if_o they_o see_v it_o will_v turn_v to_o the_o dissipation_n and_o destruction_n of_o the_o flock_n it_o be_v better_a to_o forbear_v 1_o cor._n 5._o mat._n 13.29_o 30._o ezra_n 4.20_o they_o cease_v from_o build_v the_o temple_n when_o there_o come_v a_o command_n against_o it_o thing_n o_o that_o you_o be_v wise_a to_o consider_v these_o thing_n therefore_o they_o have_v better_o forbear_v when_o it_o can_v be_v redress_v without_o great_a prejudice_n to_o the_o church_n 3._o the_o corruption_n of_o some_o do_v not_o corrupt_v the_o church_n nor_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n he_o that_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o eat_v and_o drink_v damnation_n to_o himself_o not_o to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n and_o you_o shall_v find_v many_o church_n as_o corrupt_v as_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n yet_o the_o apostle_n will_v not_o have_v they_o renounce_v it_o mr._n cotton_v exposition_n of_o the_o first_o epistle_n of_o john_n fol._n 157._o line_n 28._o hitherto_o of_o communion_n with_o and_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n now_o to_o draw_v some_o position_n from_o these_o particular_n with_o some_o inference_n upon_o they_o 1._o there_o may_v be_v acknowledge_v a_o universal_a visible_a church_n which_o be_v the_o materia_fw-la prima_fw-la of_o particular_a political_a church_n and_o may_v in_o some_o respect_n be_v call_v the_o first_o church_n and_o particular_a church_n ortae_fw-la chap._n 4._o answ_n to_o first_o and_o second_o question_n therefore_o the_o catholic_a visile_n church_n be_v not_o a_o chimaera_n nor_o a_o chief_a pillar_n of_o popery_n as_o some_o please_v to_o speak_v 2._o every_o faithful_a person_n yea_o every_o one_o that_o look_v for_o salvation_n by_o christ_n be_v bind_v to_o join_v himself_o to_o some_o or_o other_o particular_a church_n of_o christ_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 3._o chap._n 4._o therefore_o some_o or_o other_o particular_a church_n be_v bind_v to_o receive_v every_o one_o that_o look_v for_o salvation_n by_o christ_n and_o desire_n to_o join_v himself_o unto_o they_o for_o to_o say_v that_o every_o christian_n be_v bind_v to_o 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