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to_o presbyter_n leave_v out_o take_v heed_n to_o yourselves_o and_o the_o flock_n etc._n etc._n in_o plain_a design_n to_o alter_v the_o office_n and_o parish_n church_n 10._o the_o oxford_n oath_n be_v not_o then_o impose_v to_o banish_v minister_n above_o five_o mile_n from_o all_o city_n and_o corporation_n and_o place_n where_o they_o have_v of_o late_a year_n preach_v so_o that_o their_o old_a flock_n or_o friend_n yea_o wife_n and_o child_n that_o can_v not_o follow_v they_o may_v not_o so_o much_o as_o see_v or_o hear_v such_o minister_n in_o their_o family_n or_o familiar_a converse_n that_o will_v have_v come_v to_o the_o public_a church_n and_o all_o nonconformist_a minister_n that_o take_v not_o the_o oath_n be_v thereby_o forbid_v to_o come_v to_o the_o parish_n church_n
more_o such_o may_v have_v deceive_v a_o man_n that_o judge_v by_o his_o word_n and_o his_o argue_v that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o preach_v to_o they_o because_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o hear_v what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o all_o this_o if_o not_o silence_v we_o sect._n 34._o p._n 140._o the_o next_o crime_n be_v plea_n p._n 42._o as_o long_o as_o they_o suppose_v the_o term_n of_o our_o communion_n to_o be_v sinful_a they_o say_v the_o schism_n do_v not_o lie_v on_o those_o that_o separate_v but_o on_o those_o that_o do_v impose_v such_o term_n and_o therefore_o they_o may_v lawful_o separate_v from_o such_o imposer_n ans_fw-fr it_o be_v hard_a to_o know_v what_o word_n to_o use_v to_o detect_v all_o these_o historical_a untruth_n without_o be_v think_v passionate_a 1._o i_o never_o say_v that_o suppose_v they_o sinful_a will_v justify_v a_o false_a supposer_n but_o have_v oft_o say_v the_o clean_a contrary_n their_o suppose_n be_v of_o his_o forge_n 2._o i_o say_v not_o the_o schism_n do_v not_o lie_v on_o those_o that_o separate_a but_o only_o that_o its_o schism_n in_o the_o imposer_n this_o also_o be_v his_o fiction_n 3._o and_o i_o say_v not_o and_o therefore_o they_o may_v lawful_o separate_v from_o such_o imposer_n but_o all_o reader_n will_v not_o stay_v to_o find_v out_o his_o forgery_n but_o how_o much_o of_o this_o he_o say_v once_o himself_o see_v in_o my_o chap._n 1._o sect._n 49._o but_o here_o he_o come_v to_o some_o close_a distinction_n which_o shall_v have_v go_v before_o between_o term_n of_o communion_n plain_o and_o in_o themselves_o sinful_a and_o such_o as_o be_v only_o fancy_v to_o be_v so_o through_o prejudice_n or_o wilful_a ignorance_n or_o error_n of_o conscience_n ans_fw-fr what_o a_o deal_n of_o labour_n may_v he_o have_v spare_v himself_o and_o we_o if_o he_o have_v here_o fix_v the_o controversy_n in_o the_o beginning_n we_o thankful_o accept_v your_o late_a distinction_n we_o ever_o desire_v here_o to_o put_v it_o to_o the_o issue_n if_o it_o be_v through_o prejudice_n wilful_a ignorance_n or_o error_n that_o we_o judge_v conformity_n a_o sin_n not_o only_a separation_n but_o nonconformity_n be_v a_o sin_n if_o we_o do_v not_o prove_v some_o part_n of_o conformity_n for_o one_o be_v enough_o to_o be_v plain_o sinful_a which_o be_v impose_v as_o condition_n of_o our_o ministerial_a communion_n and_o somewhat_o impose_v on_o the_o people_n as_o condition_n 〈◊〉_d all_o that_o part_n of_o your_o communion_n which_o i_o ever_o dissuade_v they_o from_o let_v the_o blame_n be_v we_o sect._n 35._o he_o pass_v next_o to_o they_o that_o deal_v more_o ingenuous_o than_o i_o in_o own_v separation_n and_o then_o return_v to_o i_o p._n 151._o and_o he_o over_o and_o over_o repeat_v his_o false_a accusation_n that_o i_o think_v it_o lawful_a to_o communicate_v with_o they_o occasional_o but_o not_o as_o church_n as_o think_v they_o want_v a_o essential_a part_n viz._n a_o pastor_n with_o episcopal_a power_n but_o as_o oratory_n and_o so_o that_o i_o renounce_v communion_n with_o their_o church_n as_o church_n answ_n if_o these_o untruth_n have_v be_v make_v without_o evidence_n only_o and_o not_o also_o against_o evidence_n they_o have_v be_v the_o more_o excusable_a in_o a_o man_n of_o consideration_n but_o now_o they_o be_v not_o so_o when_o i_o have_v so_o often_o declare_v that_o i_o take_v the_o parish_n church_n that_o have_v true_a pastor_n for_o true_a govern_v church_n and_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v true_a bishop_n episcopos_fw-la gregis_fw-la whether_o the_o diocesan_n will_v or_o not_o because_o god_n will_v and_o not_o the_o invester_n institute_v their_o office_n and_o measure_v their_o power_n and_o the_o people_n show_v their_o consent_n by_o constant_a communion_n sect._n 36._o then_o because_o i_o never_o gather_v a_o church_n nor_o baptize_v any_o in_o 20_o year_n nor_o give_v the_o sacrament_n in_o 18_o he_o will_v know_v what_o church_n i_o have_v be_v of_o all_o this_o time_n and_o he_o suppose_v of_o no_o church_n ans_fw-fr i_o think_v he_o have_v do_v with_o this_o before_o but_o he_o think_v it_o a_o advantage_n not_o to_o be_v so_o easy_o let_v go_v will_v he_o know_v 1._o what_o my_o thought_n be_v 2._o or_o my_o church-covenant_n 3._o or_o my_o actual_a communion_n he_o shall_v know_v all_o 1._o i_o think_v divers_a minister_n where_o i_o live_v true_a pastor_n and_o the_o church_n true_a church_n i_o can_v say_v so_o of_o every_o curate_n 2._o i_o make_v no_o covenant_n with_o any_o of_o they_o if_o i_o have_v mr._n cheny_n will_v have_v condemn_v i_o of_o atheism_n infidelity_n and_o what_o not_o 3._o with_o divers_a of_o they_o i_o go_v constant_o to_o the_o liturgy_n sermon_n and_o sacrament_n as_o with_o true_a church_n with_o some_o of_o they_o i_o only_o join_v in_o prayer_n and_o hear_n i_o hear_v dr._n rieves_n till_o he_o cause_v i_o to_o be_v send_v to_o jail_n and_o then_o i_o can_v not_o and_o though_o i_o be_v accuse_v by_o many_o for_o hear_v a_o swearer_n i_o tell_v they_o he_o swear_v not_o in_o the_o pulpit_n i_o hear_v his_o poor_a curate_n constant_o when_o i_o be_v accuse_v for_o hear_v a_o drunkard_n and_o tell_v they_o that_o he_o be_v not_o drink_v in_o the_o pulpit_n but_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o i_o communicate_v also_o with_o some_o nonconformist_n and_o now_o account_v i_o of_o a_o church_n or_o no_o church_n as_o you_o please_v i_o doubt_v you_o be_v renew_v the_o independent_a question_n with_o i_o which_o i_o be_o loath_a to_o dispute_v 1._o qu._n whether_o a_o ordain_a minister_n must_v be_v a_o private_a member_n of_o another_o man_n church_n q._n 2._o whether_o when_o a_o nonresident_a dean_n leave_v his_o parish_n to_o a_o ignorant_a drunken_a curate_n the_o parish_n church_n be_v essentiate_v by_o its_o relation_n to_o the_o resident_n curate_n or_o the_o nonresident_a dean_n q._n 3._o whether_o a_o minister_n not_o degrade_v but_o silence_v live_v in_o such_o a_o parish_n be_v bind_v toâ—ke_v that_o curate_n for_o one_o that_o have_v the_o pastoral_a charge_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o aâ—_n the_o rest_n of_o the_o flock_n to_o commit_v his_o soul_n to_o his_o pastoral_n conduct_v in_o personal_a private_a and_o public_a office_n 4._o but_o i_o will_v ask_v the_o dean_n himself_o whether_o a_o man_n may_v not_o be_v a_o fix_a member_n of_o two_o or_o three_o church_n at_o once_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o quaere_fw-la be_v 1._o because_o by_o they_o a_o man_n may_v be_v the_o sixed_a pastor_n of_o two_o or_o three_o parish_n church_n at_o once_o and_o a_o integral_a member_n of_o many_o be_v not_o so_o hard_a a_o case_n as_o to_o be_v a_o constitutive_a regent_n part_n of_o many_o 2._o because_o a_o man_n may_v have_v two_o house_n in_o two_o parish_n at_o once_o as_o many_o londoner_n have_v half_a their_o family_n at_o a_o near_a country_n house_n and_o half_a at_o a_o city_n house_n and_o be_v themselves_o part_n of_o the_o week_n or_o day_n at_o one_o and_o part_n at_o the_o other_o and_o they_o make_v covenant_n with_o neither_o but_o what_o actual_a communion_n intimate_v q._n â—_o and_o if_o so_o why_o may_v not_o i_o at_o once_o be_v judge_v a_o member_n of_o two_o church_n at_o once_o so_o far_o as_o i_o communicate_v oft_o with_o both_o i_o therefore_o answer_v his_o question_n further_o what_o church_n i_o be_v a_o member_n of_o 1._o i_o be_v a_o member_n of_o christ_n universal_a church_n be_v that_o none_o and_o yet_o be_v in_o the_o creed_n 2._o i_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n if_o you_o will_v call_v that_o one_o because_o associate_v in_o one_o reform_a religion_n 3._o i_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n both_o as_o a_o christian_a kingdom_n and_o as_o the_o church_n in_o england_n agree_v in_o the_o christian_a reform_a religion_n 4_o i_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o provincial_a church_n of_o canterbury_n so_o far_o as_o live_v peaceable_o in_o it_o and_o submit_v both_o to_o such_o power_n as_o they_o have_v from_o the_o king_n as_o magistrate_n and_o a_o mere_a general_n help_v instruct_v care_n of_o many_o church_n can_v make_v i_o 5._o so_o far_o also_o i_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o diocesan_n church_n where_o i_o live_v 6._o and_o i_o be_v a_o member_n of_o some_o parochial_a church_n so_o far_o as_o constant_a communion_n can_v make_v or_o prove_v i_o and_o of_o other_o two_o at_z once_o so_o far_o as_o partial_a and_o movable_a communion_n can_v prove_v i_o if_o this_o will_v not_o satisfy_v you_o i_o have_v prove_v before_o and_o oft_o to_o some_o independent_n that_o many_o man_n be_v under_o no_o obligation_n to_o be_v fix_v member_n of_o any_o parish_n church_n whether_o the_o
their_o several_a fix_a province_n which_o i_o never_o see_v prove_v i_o will_v not_o contend_v whether_o those_o province_n may_v be_v call_v church_n if_o we_o agree_v about_o the_o thing_n use_v the_o name_n as_o you_o see_v cause_n sect._n 9_o and_o to_o your_o talk_n of_o our_o bishop_n be_v of_o the_o same_o sort_n i_o ask_v you_o whether_o any_o of_o the_o bishop_n for_o 300_o year_n or_o for_o long_a after_o save_v cyril_n alexand._n by_o violence_n do_v ever_o use_v or_o claim_v any_o power_n over_o any_o minister_n or_o christian_n beside_o mere_a fatherly_a teach_v persuade_v urge_v god_n word_n on_o they_o and_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o conscience_n of_o particular_a person_n by_o admonition_n verbal_a censure_n and_o absolution_n do_v they_o meddle_v by_o force_n with_o body_n or_o purse_n let_v your_o bishop_n use_v no_o other_o force_n or_o way_n of_o constraint_n than_o the_o apostle_n do_v if_o they_o be_v their_o successor_n and_o not_o lay_v the_o excommunicate_a in_o prison_n and_o ruin_v their_o body_n and_o estate_n &_o valeat_fw-la quantum_fw-la valere_fw-la potest_fw-la but_o mr._n glanvile_n and_o many_o of_o you_o tell_v we_o how_o little_a you_o care_v for_o it_o without_o the_o sword_n sect._n 10._o if_o any_o man_n will_v but_o consider_v what_o i_o cite_v out_o of_o greg._n nazianzen_n that_o say_v man_n unfit_a be_v so_o ambitious_a to_o be_v of_o the_o clergy_n that_o the_o clergy_n be_v in_o many_o church_n almost_o as_o many_o as_o the_o laity_n and_o that_o presbyter_n than_o be_v much_o like_o the_o presbyterian_o elder_n save_v that_o they_o have_v the_o power_n of_o word_n and_o sacrament_n though_o they_o seldom_o exercise_v preach_v in_o city_n but_o leave_v that_o to_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o the_o number_n of_o their_o acoluthi_fw-la exorcistae_fw-la ostiarii_fw-la lectores_fw-la subdiaconi_fw-la diaconi_fw-la etc._n etc._n make_v up_o the_o great_a body_n of_o they_o and_o the_o very_a boy_n and_o scholar_n that_o be_v breed_v up_o under_o they_o yea_o or_o but_o for_o church-singing_a be_v sometime_o join_v to_o make_v up_o the_o number_n see_v isidor_n de_fw-fr offic._n eccl._n l._n 2._o even_o all_o the_o monk_n be_v often_o number_v with_o they_o and_o victor_n cite_v by_o he_o seem_v to_o number_v twice_o the_o infantuli_fw-la so_o breed_v up_o with_o the_o great_a number_n of_o reader_n to_o the_o carthage_n clergy_n i_o say_v he_o that_o consider_v all_o this_o will_v not_o judge_v of_o the_o number_n of_o people_n or_o church_n by_o the_o number_n of_o the_o clergy_n as_o he_o will_v do_v now_o with_o we_o where_o the_o great_a parish_n have_v but_o two_o or_o three_o priest_n sect._n 11._o and_o as_o to_o the_o cause_n that_o i_o plead_v for_o it_o be_v enough_o that_o i_o have_v prove_v that_o even_o when_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n be_v confine_v to_o the_o episcopi_fw-la pastorum_fw-la yet_o the_o presbyter_n have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o be_v episcopi_fw-la gregis_fw-la and_o exercise_v this_o power_n in_o their_o distant_a country_n assembly_n though_o under_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o bishop_n be_v to_o exercise_v his_o with_o they_o as_o assistant_n so_o that_o the_o particular_a church_n be_v not_o real_o unchurch_v sect._n 12._o p._n 265._o he_o come_v near_o our_o controversy_n but_o first_o false_o state_v the_o question_n suppose_v that_o i_o say_v that_o the_o whole_a power_n of_o the_o presbyter_n be_v swallow_v up_o by_o the_o bishop_n and_o be_v the_o dispute_v of_o a_o question_n false_o state_v of_o any_o profit_n i_o only_o say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o a_o church-pastor_n or_o presbyter_n have_v three_o essential_a part_n viz._n the_o power_n of_o teach_v the_o church_n of_o conduct_v they_o in_o worship_n and_o govern_v the_o people_n by_o the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n and_o that_o he_o that_o destroy_v one_o part_n that_o be_v essential_a though_o he_o swallow_v not_o up_o all_o the_o power_n alter_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o 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their_o advice_n make_v order_n and_o law_n for_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n the_o papist_n deny_v it_o 6._o they_o will_v subscribe_v in_o this_o point_n to_o the_o article_n of_o religion_n establish_v by_o law_n to_o the_o apology_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o the_o write_n of_o jewel_n horn_n nowell_n whitaker_n bilson_n fulk_n they_o take_v the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n here_o the_o second_o article_n seem_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o what_o i_o have_v say_v but_o the_o book_n whence_o he_o cit_v it_o the_o discipl_n eccles_n and_o all_o their_o write_n show_v that_o it_o be_v but_o the_o same_o that_o i_o say_v which_o they_o assert_v viz._n that_o prince_n ought_v to_o restrain_v or_o silence_v intolerable_a man_n and_o such_o usâ—pers_n or_o delinquent_n as_o give_v just_a cause_n 2._o that_o if_o they_o mistake_v and_o do_v it_o unjust_o we_o must_v leave_v temple_n and_o tyth_n to_o their_o will_n 3._o yea_o and_o forbear_v our_o own_o public_a preach_v when_o the_o 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