Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
england_n	call_v	church_n	name_n	2,831	5	5.3453	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A45471	A view of some exceptions which have been made by a Romanist to the Ld Viscount Falkland's discourse Of the infallibility of the Church of Rome submitted to the censure of all sober Christians : together with the discourse itself of infallibility prefixt to it.	Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660.; Falkland, Lucius Cary, Viscount, 1610?-1643. Of the infallibility of the Church of Rome.	1650 (1650)	Wing H610; ESTC R15560	169,016	207

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